Moral Bankruptcy of Green Leaders, and The Quds Day

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Jaleho
by Jaleho
16-Sep-2009
 

The leaders of the failed "Green Revolution" in Iran who tried to ride on the back of Iranian youth's frustration, are now attempting desperate measures to resurrect themselves!  Despite all the help, hype, and propaganda that the western media offered them, the leaders of the "Green Movement" were not able to call for a single general strike. That failure is a reflection of the fact that the majority of working class, industrial workers, peasants, and bazaris in Iran were part of the 24 million strong Ahmadinejad supporters who had no interest to see their own votes be overturned by a Facebook and Twitter propaganda.
 
Iranians who were charged up by a sense of security ushered by friendly gestures of the new US president Obama, and a seemingly open environment of freedom of expression reflected by the pre-election debates, participated en masse in a monumental election with an 85% turnout. Forty million Iranians including 24 million Ahmadinejad supporters and 13 million Mousavi supporters defied the calls for boycott of election by reactionary elements, and passionately participated in one of Iran's most impressive elections.
 
In the aftermath of a highly emotional election, millions of Iranian youth poured into the streets releasing their pent up frustration. The natural frustration of the youth because of decades of restrictive and humiliating dress codes imposed on women, and the limitation on the youth freedom in general, were added to the anger of many who were told by the Green leaders that the election was rigged. The situation became dangerous in the city of Tehran where the 2.2 million Mousavi supporters in fact outnumbered the 1.8 Ahmadinejad supporters, and the ensuing riots led to bloodshed in the streets and a brutal suppression by the police when the riots were getting out of control. The continuous propaganda of the digital media to propagate the claims of the "Green Leaders" added log to the fire of the Iranian youth, many of whom naturally believed that their votes were robbed as they saw the huge number of pro-Mousavi supporters in affluent Northern Tehran and parts of some other university towns. Yet, soon the pro-Ahmadinejad groups who saw their own rights being challenged, in turn poured in the streets and their sheer number fizzled out the Green movement greatly. However, unlike the Green protest, the pro-Ahmadinejad demonstrations was not showcased in CNN and Face book repeatedly, neither was it as angry as the Green protest since they had actually won, and did not need to protest the results. But, the most important factor that killed the "Green Revolution" was the inability of its leaders to call for a general strike which showed their lack of widespread support among different strata of the society. Finally, the efforts of Iranian monarchist expats and the mujahedin who tried to hijack the casue of Iranian youth; and speeches like that of Makhmalbaf in the EU parliament on behalf of the Green Movement, a speech in which he tried to scare Europrans of Iran's nuclear advancements and shamelessly asked the Europeans for more sanctions against Iran, proved the anti-Iranian nature of the Green Movements and its leaders. Naturally, many Iranians who originally had sympathy with the movement, distanced themselves from it and its leaders. 
 
Now that Mohsen Makhmalbaf has managed to successfully put a last nail in the coffin of the so called "Green Revolution" by his anti_Iranian speech in the EU parliament, his daughter Hanna Makhmalbaf, has tried to continue the path of her father by appealing to Europeans through her movie, buying a few moments of personal fame for herself at the expense of selling the Quds Day and betraying the Iranians who are passionate about its cause.
 
The Green leaders who failed to gather a large group of Iranians for a sustained and effective duration of time, now are trying to convert the gathering of millions of Iranians on the historic Quds Day, and abuse the Iranian people's passion one more time in a pathetic effort to resurrect themselves from ashes. Clearly, this effort will fail again.  It will only reveal the moral bankruptcy of the Green leaders further. 

Ironically, the Green movement's effort to hijack the Quds Day message is near the time that Ahmadinejad is preparing for his yearly address in the UN. Ahmadinejad has bravely spoken about Israeli crimes in the international podium in the past, and his success in breaking the taboo of criticizing Israeli crimes openly has helped the international community with the type of current UN inquiry which for the first time in the history of the UN is finding Israel guilty of war crimes in Gaza.

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Souri

Wow!! Foaad

by Souri on Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:44 AM PDT

Now, that's a speech!!

I loved that one. Very extensive, very courageous and very very right!

Thank you. We need more of your contribution to these debates. It will drive the debate in a productive way and give a sense to it, which has been lost since the first comments.

It is so encouraging to see there are still some integrated persons willing to come and talk here. I agree with all you said (%200 :))

Thank you again.


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kharmagas

need for tolerance! (well said foadk )

by kharmagas on Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:32 AM PDT

.... well said foad.....your long comment is very well worth reading.

#best regards


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fouadk

need for tolerance

by fouadk on Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:21 AM PDT

  1- i have total sympathy for large portions of the rank and file in the Green movement. and i truly hope that most demands of the green movement, all that has to do with civil liberties - especially doing away with that strange hijab - will be implemented, as most women in iran today clearly desire - and if you don't agree the women desire that, well then why not make it optional?! you say the veil is a part of iranian identity and culture? then make it free, and let us see how many young women want it!     2- unfortunately the green movement - as it is a nebulous movement - has also somehow ended up taking in people with all kind of agendas. it is not obvious at all that the mujahedin (who joined saddam hussein and fought against iran) or the monarchists want democracy; was not the SAVAK created under the shah? was that chamber of horrors, the evin not built under the shah in 1971? could you even imagine an election under the shah, never mind a flawed election? how could anyone march with the monarchists on the streets and talk about democracy?       3- if the election was fair, then 2/3 of the iranians voted for agmadinejad. if it was flawed then 1/3 of the iranians voted for ahmadinejd. in either case those who say that anyone who voted for ahmadinejad did it because they are either stupid, or government agents, or paid government subsidies, they are making a mockery of the very idea of democracy. in a democracy we are supposed to respect the notion of one man/woman one vote. we can not second-guess why they voted this way or that way. if you want to attack anyone who voted for ahmadinejad as a traitor, then do you really believe in democracy or a civil society, or do you really believe in a society of tolerance for diverging points of view? are you not guilty of what you accuse your oponent of?         4- i think the election was fundamentally flawed, because in iran today all candidates have to be filtered by a committee, and only those with links with the establishment are allowed to run. unfortunately in the west also, in most countries, only those with lots of money are given airtime on TV; in theory anyone can run, but in reality, only if you have millions to spend.         5- again i think the main thrust of the Green movement is on the right track, and if there are no wars or foreign invasions, at least an important segment of the Green movement is bound to emerge under a different, more coherent name, and hopefully establish its cultural hegemony, and move iran beyond the current paradigm. let us not forget that the hands of mr. rafsanjani are not clean.         6- for all that to happen, one must reject the very notion that anyone-is-better-than-the-current-regime. this idea was applied 30 years ago, and it ended up in a disaster. so just because someone says they are Green, it does not make them a better alternative than the current regime. what is their exact social and economic agenda? those who say it does not matter what the agenda is, let us just first get rid of this regime, i believe they have not learned the proper lessons from 1979!      7- and none of the above can ever be understood or debated in an atmosphere where people are called names, for expressing opinions different from ours. it is a sad testimony of the fate of democracy in iran that 56 years ago, under the rule mossadegh and fatemi, there was far more tolerance than among the supporters of ahmadinejad AND many who call themselves Green today.    

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Faramarz_Fateh

JalehO still ignoring the pink elephant

by Faramarz_Fateh on Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:04 AM PDT

Why do you live in the West (U.S.)?

Ask your leader ANtarinejad to give you a ride on his plane back to the IRI.

You do not have an answer to this question thats why you avoid answering it at all costs.

Anyone who cherishes the IRI regime, should lilve in IRI and maximize his or her contribution for progress of that nation. 


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Jaleho

Article 110 of Constitution,

by Jaleho on Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:33 AM PDT

A very good Sunday morning to you monsieur mola! Chapter 8 of the constitution and in particular article 110 of it has to do with the Leader and his duties. Here it is:

Article 110
Following are the duties and powers of the Leadership:

  1. Delineation of the general policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran after consultation with the Nation's Exigency Council.
  2. Supervision over the proper execution of the general policies of the system.
  3. Issuing decrees for national referenda.
  4. Assuming supreme command of the armed forces.
  5. Declaration of war and peace, and the mobilization of the armed forces.
  6. Appointment, dismissal, and acceptance of resignation of:
      a. The fuqaha' on the Guardian Council.
      b. The supreme judicial authority of the country.
      c. The head of the radio and television network of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
      d. The chief of the joint staff.
      e. The chief commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps.
      f. The supreme commanders of the armed forces.
  • Resolving differences between the three wings of the armed forces and regulation of their relations.
  • Resolving the problems, which cannot be solved by conventional methods, through the Nation's Exigency Council.
  • Signing the decree formalizing the election of the President of the Republic by the people. The suitability of candidates for the Presidency of the Republic, with respect to the qualifications specified in the Constitution, must be confirmed before elections take place by the Guardian Council; and, in the case of the first term [of the Presidency], by the Leadership.
  • Dismissal of the' President of the Republic, with due regard for the interests of the country, after the Supreme Court holds him guilty of the violation of his constitutional duties, or after a vote of the Islamic Consultative Assembly testifying to his incompetence on the basis of Article 89 of the Constitution.
  • Pardoning or reducing the sentences of convicts, within the framework of Islamic criteria, on a recommendation [to that effect] from the Head of judicial power.

    • The Leader may delegate part of his duties and powers to another person.

     ---------------------------------
    I think that when Khomeini was alive, his sipiritual leadership was unquestionable, and this item was understandable safeguarding the direction of the revolution given the historical memory of the Iranians with their anti-colonial movements going astray by foreign influence on its leadership, betrayals..blah blah. However, even for the person of Khamenei who got the position at a time that there was still a relative uniformity in rohaniyat, the position has been very controversial. At this stage of the revolution not only it is an asinine article which is a big impediment to evolution of Iranian political structure, it simply won't be sustained with any meaning because of the wide divide among clergy.

    The "leadership" if it has the slightest brain would sit down and amend this item peacefully before it is too late. It has of course many cross references to other items of the constituion, so an expert group needs to do major corrections to the entire constituion.

    Your other note regarding Ahmadinejad and Rezai debate...I was not refering to any particular thing said in that debate rather the debate itself. I think it was a good manifestation of a real divide among rank and files of different parts of the military establishment when Rezai who was the head of pasdaran for a near 20 years and certainly has a huge base among them, stood agasint Ahmadinejad with his own followers among pasdaran and basijis. Also, the construction contracts goes to different groups within the military groups and they have different economic interests. I beleive these indicates that the military establishment is not monolithic at all.


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    Mola Nasredeen

    Jaleho,

    by Mola Nasredeen on Sat Sep 19, 2009 09:30 PM PDT

    1. What did Rezai and Ahmadinejad talk about?

    2. You stated: "Another reason for urgent demand for amendment of article 110 BTW"

    What is article 110 and its amendment?

    PS; to the Moderator: This link has problem. There's no text when one clicks on the Jaleho's blog. To access it one has to scroll all the way down to the end of the page to see the text. 


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    Mola Nasredeen

    "Why do you live in United States Hajagaha?"

    by Mola Nasredeen on Sat Sep 19, 2009 06:32 PM PDT

    I asked sheepishly.

    "That's non of your business, you brainless immature piece of ....."

    I didn't wait for him to complete his sentence and left the room in a hurry to read Jahelo's answers to the questions once more.


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    alirezag

    Excellent

    by alirezag on Sat Sep 19, 2009 06:21 PM PDT

    Excellent article.


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    yolanda

    Re: The question JalehO has avoided for 6 months (by Faramarz_Fa

    by yolanda on Sat Sep 19, 2009 05:38 PM PDT

    Great questions from Faramarz_Fateh . I was wondering besides the club-wielding basijis on the street, are there any online basijis warriors to fight for IRI? Is IRI trying to win a PR war on-line in the cyber space?

    The good news is that IRI is losing the online battle big time! This blog is the epitome of the online warfare!

    yolanda


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    Khar

    You're very welcome Yolanda Khanoum

    by Khar on Sat Sep 19, 2009 05:24 PM PDT

    Sabz Bashi aziz, and long live the Green Movement!


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    Faramarz_Fateh

    The question JalehO has avoided for 6 months

    by Faramarz_Fateh on Sat Sep 19, 2009 04:59 PM PDT

    Why she is living here in the U.S.

    At least the guy Reza Pahlavi could say his life will be in danger if he goes to Iran.  What is JalehO's excuse?

    - she can do more for Iran from the U.S. ?  hmm, no

    - she is a typical 2 faced coward who would support anyone who pays her?  hmmm   I let you decide. 


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    yolanda

    Thank you, khar

    by yolanda on Sat Sep 19, 2009 04:53 PM PDT

    Thank you, khar, for the video. I have added it to my You-tube collection. I heard the song before in a different video, but yours has updated pictures, they are very moving. Qods day was good, I hope AN's visit to UN turns out to be a great protest event! Wow! All eyes will be on NY next week.

    thanks,

    yolanda


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    Khar

    You can't Deny Vast Iranian Green Movement

    by Khar on Sat Sep 19, 2009 05:19 PM PDT

    Jaleho, History's Green train is in the station getting on it or not that is your choice. Hope you choose your people!

    PS, S.A.M Jaan you know it buddy! ;-) 

    Khoone Baha - Tribute To The Fallen Martyrs of The Green Movement


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    anonymous111.2

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by anonymous111.2 on Sat Sep 19, 2009 02:24 PM PDT

    "when they throw away idiotic symbolism like Green as in "color revolution," which symbolically is a manifestation of foreign interference (and I believe precisely for this reason "Green" will be a very short lived fad"

    yeah....you also believed that the "Quds" day will be a big disappointment for the greens!!!!  Sister, please keep your hallucinations...I'm sorry, opinions...to yourself.  We've heard enough of your drivel to know what you're about...

    Can you also please explain to us how the green movement is a foreign manifestation?  Hint: in your answer, you cannot use imaginary elements such as Twitter, Facebook, BBC or "evidence" that was presented at your IRI's show "trials".

    Sweetie, take this suggestions:  it's a nice weekend.  Take the kids and go to the harbor at Long Wharf.  Enjoy the sunny day, ride the carousel, listen to the wonderful guitarist who plays there for the public (and make sure to tip him--he deserves it--don't be cheap), play in the "jumping waters" there (make sure to bring extra clothes--you will get wet)...clear your head, and then come back and read this piece of nonsense that you have thrown on this site again.  I am sure that you'll realize what a compliation of doo doo it is!!!!


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    Jaleho

    Mola, your raised two good point

    by Jaleho on Sat Sep 19, 2009 01:51 PM PDT

    "Q1: What will happen to Velayat Faghih and Rohaniat class?
    Q2: What would be the role of Sepah in the future? Are they going to take over the political power in Iran? "
     
    Q1 is what I have been trying to explain in my few blogs after Iran's election. That is, I believe the role of clerics will fade away as a natural consequence of Iranian revolution becoming more mature for its next stages. As such, I look at the divisions that has occurred between the reformers and the hardline clerics, as a positive step forward. I don't think that hardliners are making a more "gentle" reformer clerics less relevant, rather I believe that the internal contradictions of the "Islamic and Jomhouri" are resolving itself in the form of ever deepening fracture in the clerical establishment which makes it ever more irrelevant. In other words, "ze har taraf ke shavad koshteh, sood Islam nist!"

    This naturally brings us to the second part of your Q1 which is the role of "velayat faghih" and similar deficiencies that exists in the Islamic constitution. That is, the original constitution was a far better document allowing Iran to move forwards from dictatorship, but now that we managed to have a working democratic Majlis and independent foreign policy...etc, the articles in the constitution like article 110 are impediments to further progress of Iran towards a more advanced secular democracy. so, the next stage is the amendments of such laws. 


    I do believe that this stage can be done without bloodshed. This could be the natural and healthy outcome of the present movement, when they throw away idiotic symbolism like Green as in "color revolution," which symbolically is a manifestation of foreign interference (and I believe precisely for this reason "Green" will be a very short lived fad), and also when the movement finds its rightful leadership. It is bound to find a right leadership because the time for it is ripe; movements do make their right leaders, although not in sight at the moment.
     
    Q2 is the important subject of my fear and prayers both! The concentration of military and police power in one center which is also in bed with judiciary and media is precisely the combination for possible disaster! (Another reason for urgent demand for amendment of article 110 BTW) The historical precedence for military coups are abundant, and it can prolong a vicious dictaorship if it ever happened. Any external military pressure on Iran, any threats of external interference on its political debates inside Iran, or even asinine efforts like this attempt to dilute Quds Day agenda which is fundamentally a foreign policy issue, will strengthen the military hand in Iran. This is the single danger that I see in the future of evolution of Iranian revolution to a more secular democracy.

    But, I am hopeful that it won't happen. Events like Rezai-Ahmadinejad debate usher a bifurcation in the military establishment as well as the political one, and also the nature of Iranian military personnel to me has always been much healthier than many countries in which a military coup has happened. So, although I am scared of Q2 possibility, I am more hopeful that Iran would reach a more healthy secular democracy before any military action.


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    FrankiPaykani

    Islamic Cool-Aid drinker

    by FrankiPaykani on Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:44 AM PDT

    Sorry I wasted my time on this worthless piece of drivel.

    Sounds like 100% pure Islamic republic propaganda. 


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    Mola Nasredeen

    Jaleho,

    by Mola Nasredeen on Sat Sep 19, 2009 09:09 AM PDT

    In regards to Evolutionary change in Iran you stated:

    "As the ideals of Iranian revolution, democracy, freedom, and independence are reaching a more mature stage, the need for Islam is fading rapidly"

    Q1: What will happen to Velayat Faghih and Rohaniat class?

    Q2: What would be the role of Sepah in the future? Are they going to take over the political power in Iran?


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    Shazde Asdola Mirza

    Jaleho: sorry about thinking that you were pro-Islam nutjob, now

    by Shazde Asdola Mirza on Fri Sep 18, 2009 08:23 PM PDT

    I realize that you are an old-timer bankrupt leftie (probably a Tudeh Party).

    I don't know what you guys have been smoking for the last 30 years, or how much low-income cleaning jobs you have had to do in the West, to be so hateful of the US and its allies.

    Go and live for a year, just a year under IRI, and see for yourself that just being anti-US does not make a country or leader any better.

    Edi Amin of Uganda was anti-US; Pol Pot of Cambodia was anti-US; Anvar Khojea of Albania was anti-US; Mogabe of Zimbabwe is anti-US, but all of them are 100 times more evil than any US leader has ever been.

    Wake up from your safety in the bossom of the EVIL WEST and go live for just a year in Sudan, IRI, Somali, Zimbabwe or North-Korea, to realize what real EVIL is.


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    Jaleho

    Mola jan, by evolutionary stage of the revolution

    by Jaleho on Fri Sep 18, 2009 07:57 PM PDT

    I mean something on the line of my other blog in response to Hadi Ghafari's speech:

    //iranian.com/main/blog/jaleho/iranian-democracy-and-islamic-revolution

    So let me copy the part which I hope would clarify my thought: 

    Islamic Revolution was an anti-colonial revolution with an "Islamic facade,"  as clergy historically have been in the forefront of such anti-colonial fights together with the intelligentsia. The original stage of Iranian anti-colonial awakening, the Constitutional Revolution, had similar clergy participation. Its next stage, the oil nationalization era was again similar, with people like Ayatollah Kashani as one of its symbols. That one had the national front facade of Mosadeq, whereas the 1978-9 revolution had the Islamic facade as Khomeini who was THE unifying figure of the revolution, although Khomeini appointed the National front Bazargan as its first official head of government.

    People like Mr. Ghafari have their arguments backward because they incorrectly believe that the revolution was about Islam! He doesn't recognize that it was an anti-colonial revolution about independence and  "JOMHOURI."  "ISLAM" was its facade; the important ingredient which could unify people of wildly different strata to propel the revolution.

    As the ideals of Iranian revolution, democracy, freedom, and independence are reaching a more mature stage, the need for Islam is fading rapidly. Yet, the anti-colonial aspirations of Iranians are still very alive in this stage as well. Absent from the discussion of "Iran experts" on TV these days, is the fact that 94% of all Iranians from both Ahmadinejad and Mousavi camps, are unified in their anti-colonial demand for Iran's right to nuclear energy, while they are struggling for more internal freedom. This is a welcome phase of maturation of democracy in Iran exemplified by the open and critical debate among powerful clergy presented in this link; itself a consequence of the healthy fracture that opened up in the presidential debates. This link sounds like the parliamentary sessions in the UK or US congress!  It even reflects a healthier divide than US congress which on some issues (like Israeli ones) they act uniformly like a bunch of sheep led by AIPAC! This link is a perfect reflection of the healthy stage that Iranian democracy is reaching; the stage where the institution of "velayat faghih is becoming redundant," much to Mr. Ghafari's upcoming disappointment!!

    Completely opposite to what some "experts" analyze the present situation in Iran, it is NOT the rise of dictatorship by eradication of "Jomhouri" from "jomhouri Islami," rather it is the NATURAL fading of "Islamic" from the "jomhouri Islami!"

    --------------------------- 

    PS. Of course by above I don't mean Iranians are becoming less muslims, I think that "political Islam" which was the essential glue which gave Iranian revolution its cohesion and made it successful, is not needed anymore as an ingredient.


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    Jaleho

    Q, you said,

    by Jaleho on Fri Sep 18, 2009 07:42 PM PDT

    "If major strikes happen sometime in the future, does that mean, you will abandon your support for Ahmadinejad?

    Don't you think the massive pandering and (illegal) electioneering with state funds is responsible for some of this? And if yes, how long can it possibly last?"

     If there were few widespread strikes in Iran, I wouldn't abandon my personal opinion of Ahmadinejad necessarily, those I have formed based on my ideas of what I think is good for Iran. But I will try to evaluate and understand what might have casued it, where I went wrong, as the assumption that he's supported by the working people of Iran is one essential factor that I like him. So, I would certainly abandon my analysis of the situation. I will immediately conclude that the oil workers for example have a problem with him that I don't know of, and they certainly are the group that determine the path of any movement, any direction the country takes, not anything we say this side of the globe. I will certainly stay out of their way even if I didn't like what I saw. Had Mousavi been elected president instead of Ahmadinejad that I preferred, I certainly would have accepted it without any bickering. I would not have bought any propaganda without complete examination to support MY man. I mean it when I say that I would accept the will of majority of Iranians. Not majority of Iranian.comers though ;-)

    The above explanation means that I also don't find the second part of your question valid for consideration.


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    capt_ayhab

    Pauleeez good people

    by capt_ayhab on Fri Sep 18, 2009 07:25 PM PDT

    more attention you decent freedom loving people give to THIS attention starved character woman[the author] more belligerent her type gets.

    I do realize your frustration in trying to DRIVE logic and humanity into the callus skulls of some so called humanbeings BUT:

    نرود میخ آهنین در سنگ

    -YT 


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    Mola Nasredeen

    Jaleho,

    by Mola Nasredeen on Fri Sep 18, 2009 07:16 PM PDT

    Evolutionary change you say?

    Would you expand on that?


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    Mona 19

    Dear Mardom Mazloom

    by Mona 19 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 07:14 PM PDT

    I love Google earth...Have a great weekend.

    Mona ;)


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    Mardom Mazloom

    Mona jan

    by Mardom Mazloom on Fri Sep 18, 2009 07:06 PM PDT

    Mokhlessim!
    We posted the link simultaneously.


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    Mardom Mazloom

    لینکهای تظاهرات تهران بر روی گوگل ارت

    Mardom Mazloom
    Fri Sep 18, 2009 07:04 PM PDT


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    Mona 19

    Quds day on Google earth

    by Mona 19 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 07:03 PM PDT

    Quds day on Google earth

    //maps.google.com/maps/ms?client=firefox-a&ch...

    Mona


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    Q

    question, Jaleh

    by Q on Fri Sep 18, 2009 06:28 PM PDT

    Despite all the help, hype, and propaganda that the western media offered them, the leaders of the "Green Movement" were not able to call for a single general strike.

    If major strikes happen sometime in the future, does that mean, you will abandon your support for Ahmadinejad?

    Don't you think the massive pandering and (illegal) electioneering with state funds is responsible for some of this? And if yes, how long can it possibly last?


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    Neda ye Iran e Azad

    Every one is allowed to present his/her idea here

    by Neda ye Iran e Azad on Fri Sep 18, 2009 04:05 PM PDT

     Jaleho!

    How long have you been out of Iran? How much do you know the situation inside?

    What I see there today is hope and correlation rising among people who seemed to be dead up until three months ago. Yes! I see hope in people and I see the green movement as generator of such energy in my people. People whom I think you don't know anymore. And don't you think that people wear green for sake of Mousavi or others.

    But I also like to see what you will do.  I want to see what you have in mind and how you can convice people to follow your idea. There is an old proverb that says گر تو بهتر می زنی بستان بزن !!!!

     

    سبز سبز تا بهار

     


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    kharmagas

    flying away home! (to Khaleh Moshe)

    by kharmagas on Fri Sep 18, 2009 03:29 PM PDT

    Moshi jAn, I will do kamikaze for you, if you are cute! I hope I get a chance to fly home (Esfahan) before that though:

    Esfahan:

    //www.bamjam.net/Iran/Esfahan.html


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    ebi amirhosseini

    Jaleh khanoum

    by ebi amirhosseini on Fri Sep 18, 2009 03:17 PM PDT

    You say:

    "And, BTW, there are cases that I see eye to eye to with people in here, but I don't always go and write, "hey I agree with you," sometimes I do. "

    In my humble opinion,that's wrong!.If you say to your opponent :

    "Hey I agree with you on ....",maybe you two find some sort of common grounds to discuss.

     

    Ebi aka Haaji


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