A Moslem Talk About Life After Death

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25-Dec-2009
 

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Friday, December 18, 2009
God's Equal!
 
It was evening, and the sun was beginning to set, when two Christians came to my door. Two smiling, happy Christians. And these two Christians told me they wanted to talk about God. They told me that God is all loving and all powerful, that he made everything and everyone. They assured me, they promised me that God can do anything, anything at all. So I thought about that for a while...

And then I said, "So can I." The Christians gave me puzzled looks when they heard this, as if I was suggesting I could do anything their God could do. "Obviously that's not what you meant to say." They said. I shook my head. "You're wrong" I said. "That's exactly what I meant to say. I can do anything your God can do, I am God's equal."

It was difficult to say if they were amused, offended or just plain old confused. And the smiles they had when they first showed up were not as wide any longer. "You can't do all the things God can do!" one of them said. "Nobody is that powerful, you're not God!" "No!" I agreed. "I am not God, but I am God's equal and I can prove it to you, would you like me to do that?"

The Christians took a step back, but in case you're wondering it wasn't my God like powers that made them do it. "Test me!" I said. "Give me three things your God can do and I will do it. If I can't then that will prove that I'm not God's equal." The Christians looked at each other, from their expressions it was clear this was a claim they have never heard before. But they knew that I was lying, they knew that their God was far more powerful than me. And when I fail to show otherwise, they prove their point. They prove that I was not a match for God and that I am not God's equal. "Three things?" they asked. "Three things" i replied. "Anything you like, anything at all." I pointed to one of them, he was holding a bible tightly in his hand, his fingers pressing down in to the worn black leather. "Would you like to go first?" He nodded and he thought.

After a minute he was still thinking and I was almost about to suggest that his friend came up with one instead. But suddenly his head lifted from deep concentration and he looked at me confidently and said "Make it rain." I looked up, it was a cool evening and there were clouds in the sky. But it didn't feel like it was going to rain, not there and then. That would of been a very nice coincidence but not a very good demonstration. I pointed that out to the man and suggested something more persuasive. "What if I make the rain pink." i offered. The Christian with the bible frowned. "Pink rain? Who ever heard of pink rain?" "Exactly!" I said. "Pink rain it is then. So you want me to produce pink rain from the sky?" I asked to confirm. "Yes" he said. I shrugged "No problem! I can do that." They both took another step back, disconcerted. I pointed out that if they went any further back they would get very wet from all the pink rain. The second Christian was angry now. "You're just wasting our time! You know and I know that you can't make it rain. Go on, do it if you're so clever!" I smiled, trying to look as cheerful as the Christians did when I answered the door. "I'm not trying to waste your time, I'm just trying to prove that I'm God's equal. You want me to produce pink rain, and I told you I can do that." "So do it!" he persisted.

"All in good time." I assured him. "First lats find out what the other two tests are shall we? he agreed reluctantly, but pressed ahead with his challenge. "The bible tells us that God formed man from the dust of the ground, only God can create life, no man could do that." "I can!" I corrected him. "I can create man from dust, to be honest I don't even need the dust at all. I can create life from nothing, lats make it two, a man and a woman. Both at the same time. And I should probably give them umbrellas to keep off the rain" I added. The second Christian pointed a shaking finger at me. "A faithful witness will not lie, but a false witness will utter lies!" Hmm proverbs 14, verse 5 I recalled. "But don't forget verse 18" I replied. "The simple inherit madness, but the prudent are crowned with knowledge." The mans eyes narrowed, and his finger curled back so that his hand was making a fist. It was obvious that his annoyance was quickly turning in to rage, so I did my best to calm him again. "One more test, just one more and that's it. If you are so sure I can't do these things, just give me one more and it will all be over." The man with the bible touched the arm of his friend who was now visibly shaking and whispered in his ear. They both turned away, there was a furious exchange of words. It was clear that they could not decide if they should walk away or if as I suspected, their human curiosity would get the better of them.

They turned again to face me, straight forward, human and curious. The first of the two, the one holding the bible said. "I am sorry for the reaction of my friend here, his wife passed away last month, and his faith has been tested many times since then. These so called tests of yours are unusual to say the least. Neither of us is sure of how to react to what you say" I nodded and looked at the second man, there were tears in his eyes which he struggled to hold back. "I'm sorry for your loss" I said, and I meant it. He looked down and whispered something, when it seemed obvious that I didn't hear he said with some difficulty. "Bring her back!" I looked to the first man for confirmation "That is your third test?" he sighed sadly. My smile had faded but these were their terms, they wanted me to continue. So I did.

"I can do it." I said quietly "I can bring back your wife." They both looked at me wondering why I would continue with this cruel pretense. Why I still would lay claim to be Gods equal. Calmly I said, "I can do all of these things" i paused. "But I choose not to do so!" The second of the two men leered at me, his face a mask of triumph and anger, a clenched fist with his accusing finger raised at me. "See, see, only God can works such miracles! Liar, worthless liar!" I allowed him this outpouring of rage, but in the silence following his outburst I was insistent. "I can create pink rain, I can create life and I can resurrect the dead." then pointing at the black leather bible, I said "Can your God do all of these things?" The two men cried out in anger "Of course he can!!" "Then let him show me!" I said. "I am waiting, let him show me now!"

There was an odd moment of silence as a look of incomprehension passed between the two Christians. "I've told you that I'm God's equal" I said. "You've given me three tasks, and I've told you that I can do those tasks. In return you told me that God can do those same tasks. If both sides make identical claims, it is my understanding that this makes us equal." "But you haven't done any of them" the second christian said, "These are lies not miracles!" the first Christian joined in. "This is not proof that you're God's equal, where is the rain, where is the new life created from nothing? You've only said you can do these things. Show us!" "Oh that won't be necessary." I said. "its obvious to me that your God is not going to preform these miracles to you and equally neither am I. So we are indeed equal. God and I are equal in providing proof to your standards. We both make claims, we both make promises, and we are equally unwilling to fulfill any of them. In all respect, I am without any doubt God's equal." As the two Christians looked at me with blank expressions I stepped inside the house and closed the door. Trough the window I watched until the men reached the end of the driveway. As they turned in to the street under the pale red sunset sky, a sky that some might even call a sky with the shade of pink, the first thin and gentle drops of rain started to fall.

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