Letter from Iran

To Reality Bites:

From Wikipedia link you refer to:

"...that destroyed a nuclear reactor under construction..."

"Israel claimed it acted in self-defense, and that the reactor had "less than a month to go" before "it might have become critical."
And though there was supposedly nuclear material on site it was obviously not hit during the raid because if it had it would have been released all over Iraq, and most likely over Iran.

You are demanding a "proper scientific analysis" which is of course impossible as the scientific method demands that an experiment be conducted over and over again until a certain result is achieved. How do you propose such an "analysis" or experiment be conducted so as to find out if radioactive material is released after Iran's nuclear facilities are bombed?

Here is more links but I am sure you will ignore them because they are "hysterical":
"Iran’s Bushehr nuclear reactor has 82 tons of enriched uranium (U235) now loaded into it, according to Israeli and Chinese news reports."
"According to the Center for Disease Control, the uranium 235 used in nuclear reactors has a half life of 700 million years. As nuclear reactor fuel is used, it turns into uranium 238, which has a half life of 4.5 billion years. These radioactive isotopes are dangerous to health because they emit alpha particles and because they are chemically toxic. When inhaled, they damage lung tissue. When ingested, they damage kidneys and cause cancer in bones and in liver tissues. According to a recent review of medical research, uranium exposure causes babies to be deformed or born dead."

"Never in history has it happened that nuclear power plants and nuclear enrichment facilities have been deliberately bombed. Such facilities, everywhere in the world, operate under severe safety conditions because the release of radioactive materials is deadly, immediately and also long after exposure. If the USA or Israel deliberately bomb a fully fueled nuclear power plant or nuclear fuel enrichment facilities, containment will be breached; radioactive elements will be released into the environment. There will be horrific deaths for families in the surrounding vicinity. The Union of Concerned Scientists has estimated 3 million deaths would result in 3 weeks from bombing the nuclear enrichment facilities near Esfahan, and the contamination would cover Afghanistan, Pakistan, all the way to India."

"Reactors and enrichment facilities are built of extra strong concrete, often with multiple layers of containment domes, often built underground. Bombing such facilities will require powerful explosives, earth penetrator war heads, maybe nuclear warheads. The explosions will blow the contamination high into the atmosphere. Where will it go is a question that is difficult to predict."
"The nuclear fallout from bombing Iran will have a half life of 700 million years."

//globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=...

The following is based on studies done by the Pentegon but with the use of a nuclear device and the modern "bunker busters" being sold to Israel will have a similar effect:

"Fallout from the use of RNEP against the Esfahan nuclear facility in Iran would spread for thousands of miles across Afghanistan, Pakistan and India. It would kill 3 million people within 2 weeks of the explosion and expose 35 million to cancer causing radiation."

//www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_weapons_and_global_s...

The purpose of this exercise in hyperventilation

Is to divert attention away from the fact that it is the Islamist terrorist regime which, through its worthless policies and hostility toward the US, Israel, and others has, once again, brought the Iranian people into the crossfire of a potential confrontation between the IRI and other nations. That being said, I think a confrontation will happen only if the IRI overplays its hand. 

I concur with R_Bites here …

My view on the points made here  is that when we grossly exaggerate in order to make our case, we risk the chance of grossly diminishing any credibility our argument may have.  This phenomena unfortunately run on both side of the isle, those who favor a more hawkish approach to IRI and those who are against such approach.  How often is that we hear IRI poses more danger to the world than Hitler or Stalin ever did or that we hear IRI has a more democratic government than any other nation on earth?

That is my .02 cents and sorry if it was unsolicited

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

MA

Actually the Osirak facility did have nuclear material in it, as good old Wikipedia outlines in this piece:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Opera 

The websites you have posted are not scientific studies, but just a bunch of anti-nuke websites.

I'm questioning you because this is a free website and sometimes people exchange views which might be different from each other. It isn't always about people posting articles expecting everyone to get in line to sing their praises without questioning any of the points raised. This place isn't Iran.

You blurt out phrases like having a "half brain" and "common sense", well if you'd used either of those attributes when reading properly what I'd actually said, you'd realise that I wasn't saying there be won't casualties. Of course, there will and that is one of the reasons why I oppose Iran being bombed.

What I was questioning was the hysterical tone and claims of your article, e.g "millions will be irreversibly poisoned, deformed etc" for which you have not produced any proper scientific analysis. I mean with all due respect, saying  "...anybody with half a brain knows that when you blow things up the material that is blown up goes all over the place! It's not just going to stay under the ground. It will go BOOM, which is the purpose of a bomb....", doesn't quite cut it.

So, your mentor was one of the original Manhattan project scientists, right? Well, I'm assuming that you must be pretty old since nearly all of the scientists in that project, which took place around 70 years ago, have long since died and would've been retired years many before their deaths.

And once more, no "crime against humanity" has been committed yet in this case. And if you really want to keep it that way, maybe you'll also make some effort to address the other side of this issue, which has it in its power to prevent an attack on Iran by stopping being belligerent and cooperating with the IAEA, namely the Islamic Republic.

Dear maziar 58

Mullahs got to go with military threat and war has become mixed together not accidentally. Two separate issues or trick to get democracy away from Iranians for many more decades to come. Be aware.

The issue for the West is powerful Iran not democracy in Iran. The issue for Iranians is democracy that carries many other benefits. War and destruction of Iran will not come cheap. If war happens, US must demolish Iran to dust to minimize retaliation. Logic of war for the West would be to kill as much and damage as much as possible with any strikes. It's absolutely stupid to want or support that.

This doesn't guarantee system's collapse. Most probable way that a system like IR will collapse with massive bombardments is when the central government is very weak and weapons in the hands of many ethnic population in different regions in Iran. The test of such tactic was done in Libya and is being done in Syria. For Iran it will be much bloodier, more destructive, and more horrifying. No sane individual should wish or consider that option, which is the most probable outcome.

If you believe the cost of such damage and possible divided Iran is a better option for all Iranians, then you are entitled to your opinion. The important point is to be able to comprehend the realities and outcome then stand for an idea.

Finally, no one should joke around with idea of war.

To Reality Bites:

Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak did not have any nuclear material in it. It was far from finished and years away from going online.

Here are a couple of quotes and links and I am sure with a ten minute search you will be able to find a dozen just like them:

"Given Bushehr's size and some recent analyses concluding that Israel has the capacity to destroy any Iranian nuclear plant, the radiological releases from Bushehr's destruction could approach the scope of Chernobyl."

//www.armscontrol.org/act/2008_05/Dimona

"Kuwait is not prepared for any negative impact from military action against the Bushehr nuclear power plant, experts say. “A radiation leak from the Bushehr Plant puts at least 90 percent of Kuwait’s population at risk of being affected by the worst kinds of cancer that affect the brain and kidney”,"

//nuclear-news.net/2012/01/11/attack-on-iran-...

"An Israeli military strike against Iranian facilities, with or without the support of the US and its other allies, would almost certainly provoke violent retaliation and cause potentially significant releases of radioactivity."

//www.mapw.org.au/news/ippnw-opposition-milit...

But it's common sense: they want to blow up Natanz and a dozen other locations where there is nuclear material and anybody with half a brain knows that when you blow things up the material that is blown up goes all over the place! It's not just going to stay under the ground. It will go BOOM, which is the purpose of a bomb.

Why is this even questioned? One does not have to be a nuclear scientist to have common sense. My own knowledge of radioactivity and nuclear weapons is based on what I learnt from my mentor and professor in college. He was one of the scientists that worked on the Manhattan Project.

What Israel is threatening is exactly that; a crime against humanity, and generations of innocent unborn human beings.

One moment please!

Regarding these two comments:

"...a military strike on Iran's civilian nuclear installations will be a nuclear attack in terms of the radioactive contamination that will be released by these so called "bunker busters".

"...Cleaning up this toxic crime against humanity will be impossible and will result in deformities and genetic damage for generations of Iranians, as well as those in nearby countries, with estimates of those that will be irreversibly poisoned in the millions...."

First, just so it is clear, I'm totally against any military attack on Iran as it will likely not only result innocent civilians getting killed, but also be counter-productive as it will strengthen the IR and buy it much needed popular support.

Now regarding your first comment, unless you are a nuclear scientist (and if you are kindly confirm), your claim that "bombing IR's nuclear installation will be a nuclear attack" has to be taken with pinch of salt. When Israel bombed Saddam's Osirak nuclear installation there was hardly any nuclear fall out that could be claimed to be on the same scale as a nuclear attack. If anything, since Iran's nukes site are deep underground, their bombing by the bunk busters (if successful at all), should result in even less of a widespread radiation fall out.

As regards to your second comment, no attack has yet taken place and hopefully never will. So let's not hysterical about supposedly how many millions will be deformed (without any proper study to back up the claimed numbers) and start labelling, as yet, a non-existent event, as a "crime against humanity".

IR itself is a issue for the whole world!

It is utterly crazy to think that the iranian nuclear issue is an issue solely for iranians and is not anybody else's business! Mr. alireza and many others like himself should know that IR is a rogue state and cannot be allowed to have nuclear capabilities. Moreover Mr. Alireza should know that he can wait another 1000 years for democracy to arrive by sitting on his backside and wait!

A sobering blog!

      Only a psychopath can ignore the kind of warning that is expressed in this blog!

Lift the sanctions, do business with the IRI & it'll all take

care of itself. Naturally, the IRI will allow the wealth to trickle down to the average folks, the people will be then "strengthened" (now, WHY would the IRI allow this to happen -- who knows, who cares?) and "on their own and in their own way", the Iranian people will achieve democracy....Right after Emam Zaman returns. 

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BLOG Is great.

But the mollahs are not listening

They got to GO.

simple.

apparently the Bushehr nuclear plant and some other strategic points of Interests are the main TARGET

And nobody is Nuking Iran.

Maziar

A great blog with many legitimate points raised here...

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

I dont hear Fred condemning his friends pro-war stance

Fred, like all the humanitarian interventionists trumpet human rights and hide behind it to fool everyone with their real intentions. So far I have not seen Fred condeming the words of war hawks on Iranian.com 

THANK YOU

We need more voices like you ....Great BLOG 

" Regime change is an internal issue for Iranians living in Iran, and not anybody else's business. History is on our side as never have oppressive dictators been able to stay in power. ... Iranians will bring about democracy and the rule of law to Iran and will do so on their own and in their own way."  

"a military strike on Iran's civilian nuclear installations will be a nuclear attack in terms of the radioactive contamination that will be released by these so called "bunker busters...... Cleaning up this toxic crime against humanity will be impossible and will result in deformities and genetic damage for generations of Iranians, as well as those in nearby countries, with estimates of those that will be irreversibly poisoned in the millions".