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The intellectual LEFT dilemma and the RIGHT solution
27-May-2010
The Russian revolution in October of 1917 had a profound influence on the intellectual class in Iran. The effect of that revolution along (with the implementation of Marxism ) can be traced in the literatury work of many iranian intellectuals, writers and poets. Many contemporary literatures works in Iran are littered with " revolutionary approaches" , " leftists ideas " and Marxism. It can be argued that the bond between Iran's intellectuals and " revolutionary leftist ideas " are historical and go back quite a few decades. This leftist ideology encourage the use of force by the masses to topple " imperialistic " governments by means of "revolutions".
It is very easy for a Leftist intellectuals to be " Anti establishment / anti government" due to their revolutionary personalities. It usually doesn't matter what kind of a government this class is opposing, they will oppose any form of government unless it is a " classic left " government.
Thats why when Mohammad Reza Shah was in power, the " Leftist intellectual " opposed him by printing political bulletins calling him the "puppet of imperialism" and supported Shah's alternatives ( Emam Khomeini). Even though, Khomeini is a clergyman who believes in VF and the politicalization of Islam. Or when Bazargan was the prime minister, they supported Bazargan alternative because Bazargan was too " Westernized " and was trying to bond Capitalism with our economy. Then came Banisadr and the intellectual left called him " a son of clergyman " who wants to run our economy based on a " Islamic Touhidi " formula. Or when Hashemi Rafsanjani is the president, they supported his alternative ( Karoubi ) in the election , But when Ahmadinejad is running , they switched their votes to Hashemi Rafsanjani, the same Rafsanjani who they opposed only 4 years ago !! This process keeps repeating itself even to the second term of Ahmadinejad term which the intellectual leftist supported mousavi who himself is supported by Rafsanjani again.
To an intellectual leftist, the real question is , " who is the establishment now? " And when the answer is ; " Ahmadinejad, or this or that " , then he knows who to support , which would be the OTHER alternative, even if he doesn't have a clue about the alternative ideology which he supports ! As long as they are anti establishment with revolutionary approaches, they believe they are just.
Ofcouse, this is anyones right to support whoever they want. Maybe they are following a policy of " creating contradictions " among the pilars of powers in our country. I am not blaming them or calling them names. But i simply do not like their approaches since it is inconsistant and based on violent changes. Besides, any results gained from their approaches has been proven to be temporary with one form of institutions replaced by another one similar in nature.
In contrast to the Left camp, Right camp advocates like me, are against anti establishment approaches. But instead , we focus to decrease and minimize the gap between the people and the government. Both people and governments are capable of making mistakes and these mistakes should be told , debated , written, debated publicly again until more understanding is reached among people to prevent another violent change with unpredictable results.
Unlike the intellectual left ( Who asks " who is in power to oppose and who is the alternative to support" ), the Right ( Intellectual ) follows a more pragmatic approach to support a candidate based on their economical agenda and their dedication to developement and progress even if their ideology is different than theirs. It does not matter if they are the establishment or not, Islamic or not, Kiaani or not, leftist in the truest form or not, as long as their solutions for the progress of our country is aligned with ours, we will support them. Again, even if our ideologies are world apart. To us, supporting the current establishment / administration is not a sign of weakness ( Advocated by who else? Leftist propagandist ) but a sign of our strength. Also, to be the government is not a weakness, but a sign of their strength.
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Irani Irani,
by Midwesty on Fri May 28, 2010 06:49 AM PDTIt depends how you define a revolution. Based on what you have listed, Iran has had 5 revolutions so far:
1979, Nationalists + Religious and Left factions
1981, Religious Left hard-liners
1989, Right-Center Religious
1997, Left-Center Religious
2005, Belbesho!
"MacCoy...You are both revolutionaries"
by Real McCoy on Fri May 28, 2010 04:48 AM PDTYour confidence in statistical probability, or lack of which, is understandable. What you intentionally avoid to recognize, and discuss ( a tactic which has made you a target for all kinds of accusations, and name callings) is the national movement for reclaiming the original revolution. VF, and its apparatus have to "return the stolen good".
فولادی...........
MajidThu May 27, 2010 11:54 PM PDT
And similar blogs by half a dozen different user ID's on this site arereally not worth reading. Most probably they are composed by the same
brother!
همچین خیلی هم به «برادر» بودن طرف تکیه نکن! «خواهر» اردنگی خورده و «خواهر» بز حیران میان دو گله هم تو این سایت کم نداشتیم!
در فقه اسلامی یک تشبیهی هست بنام «هِمَجٌ رُعاع» و اون عبارت از پشه های ریز و ناچیزی هستند که روی مدفوع اسب و الاغ پرواز میکنند و با کوچکترین وزش بادی تغییر جهت میدهند یا بعبارت دیگه قبل از انتخابات از جنبش سبز طرفداری میکنند و چند ساعت (چند ساعت!!) بعد از بسته شدن حوزه های رأی گیری , حتی قبل از مقام خیلی خیلی محترم رهبری «احمق بی نژاد» رو برسمیت میشناسند !!
This pathethic blog by user ID "no fear"
by fooladi on Thu May 27, 2010 10:53 PM PDTAnd similar blogs by half a dozen different user ID's on this site are really not worth reading. Most probably they are composed by the same brother! But I do find their mere appearance interesting as they all lead to the same desparate argument: Revolution against velayate vaghih regime will not succede, instead , let's focus on useless circular arguments about the meaning of life!
Zahi khiale battel!!!
Rapist Regime groupie's version of history
by Irani Irani on Thu May 27, 2010 05:44 PM PDTRapist Regime supporter No Fear states: " Do you know of any nation who repeats another violent revolution in less than 40 years? Has any nation repeated a revolution at all ??"
Here you go: France: 1789, 1830, 1848, and 1871
China: 1911 and 1949
Russia: 1905 and 1917 (Just to name a few examples that came to mind off the top of my head).
Nice try Rapist Regime groupie, nice try.
No Fear: This is what is
by vildemose on Thu May 27, 2010 03:15 PM PDTNo Fear: This is what is awaiting your Right-intelelctual President:
//www.caracaschronicles.com/node/2541
بسیجی میره آمپول بزنه,
Mardom MazloomThu May 27, 2010 01:17 PM PDT
دکتر بهش میگه چپ بزنم یا راست؟
بسیجیه میگه آقای دکتر قربونت، این کون ما رو دیگه سیاسی نکن! همون وسط بزن بریم!
No Fear
by Cost-of-Progress on Thu May 27, 2010 12:42 PM PDTWhat you consider revolution, the Islamic takeover of 1979, was engineered by the great powers to deconstruct Iran. Yeah yeah, people were in the streets shouting for Khomeini, but that's what was on the surface. Why do you think Khomeini was kept alive and well all those years? He could easily have had an "accident" while in exile.......If you disagree, that's OK - facts won't change and history will reveal the truth...hopefully while we're still around.
As for a REAL revolution, only people can make it happen. You squeeze them hard enough, deny basic freedom and rights with your fascist nonsense and the pressure cooker will pop a valve.
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IRAN FIRST
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COP & MacCoy
by No Fear on Thu May 27, 2010 12:04 PM PDTYou guys have a lot more in common with the traditional Left than you think. You are both revolutionaries whether you like it or not. Sorry, i can't trust revolutionaries anymore. You are too emotional, irrational and confrontational when you put your methods forward.
I really don't see another revolution in Iran again. Do you know of any nation who repeats another violent revolution in less than 40 years? Has any nation repeated a revolution at all ??
NP,
by No Fear on Thu May 27, 2010 11:01 AM PDT" it is not the destination that matters but the journey itself"
I can't agree with you more. This statement is kind of a contradiction to the traditional "Left" goal of creating a just and fair society ( Destination) with the use of revolution ( Journey ). Since journey is secondary to the ultimate goal.
In political terms, democracy is not the goal ( Destination ) but merely a tool ( Journey ) to reach our destination. Ultimately, it is the people who will decide what form of government they want. And i am perfectly fine to support the majority while keeping my ideology. Many of us, are displaying this ability while being proactive in our politic.
But one should remember that anyone who walks the journey, is to remain and exercise democratic behaviors by accepting the rule of majority. If a faction is defeated in an election, they should accept the outcome and plan for the next election. Creating havoc and civil disobedience followed by riots and setting cars on fire will not get you to your destination.
Non-compromising approaches and confrontations are the corner stone of any leftist belief system. A belief which is constructed around the idea of revolution. ( Am i guilty of reduction here? ). This method has quite a large number of followers in other belief systems too. Just look at our IC for that matter. It is interesting to see all agreeing on this approach ( Revolution/ Violent Changes ).
How similar are the slogans;
" Naa Saazesh, Naa tasleem, .... " ( Early revolution )
" Daneshjoo mimirad, zelat nimipazirad " ( Green Movement )
They all point to a non democratical, non compromise approach when dealing with their internal political rivals. Afterall, this is the characteristic of a leftist ideology.
PS: If you know of any Leftist NGOs with different methods of activism, please let me know.
ahh...the intellectuals..
by Cost-of-Progress on Thu May 27, 2010 05:18 AM PDTI just love that word when used in the same sentence as Iran, the current anti-nationalist occupying force, and of course...Islam.
Enjoy your days.....A corrupt regime like the one you support will come crashing down sooner or later. The question I have is what would people like you be doing afterward? Would you strap fashinable vests with multiple pockets and "stuffed" with goodies on and go waste (I use that term loosely) yourself for the ideology that has bankrupted our country and is working to wipe our identity - OR, would you wake up and realize that your ideology failed even before your emam was installed in 1979?
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IRAN FIRST
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No Fear
by Niloufar Parsi on Thu May 27, 2010 04:29 AM PDTinteresting read. i Knew you were right-leaning!
i suspect you are being somewhat reductionist (especially in discussing psychology), but have to think about this one a bit. surely there are the evolutionary (democratic) types on the left who see elections and civil action (e.g. NGOs) as the way forward.
it is not the destination that matters but the journey itself.
Peace
I thought you guys were leaving!
by Real McCoy on Thu May 27, 2010 03:32 AM PDTNo intellectual ( left, or right ) can be supporting a backward regime ( or, any potion of it, for that matter ) or ideology, which among many other things of similar nature, counts a woman as half of a man.