Bahaism and the British elite (part 1)

None of your business

Your answer 

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NUR - Just answer these questions....

1) How many people in your group?

2) Are you a clergyman in this group?

3) How often do you meet?

4) Where do most of these people live?

5) Is this group growing in numbers or dwindling?

6) What are the goals of this group?

7) How does this group organize itself or does it have a community?

8) Is this group recognized by any organization or civil or international body?

9) Is this group persecuted in Iran or elsewhere? If so, can you reference any evidence to support this claim?

10) What would be considered an achievement for this group?

11) Could you tell us some of the principles of your Faith?

Don't get frustrated, just answer these questions.  Looking in the mirror can't be that bad.  (or is it?)

DETNUR

Au contraire

On the contrary! It appears that you Baha'is have shot yourselves in the foot here. First, no one has claimed Robert Dreyfuss as infallible. In fact infallibility is a typical non sequitor (fallacy of reasoning) of the Baha'i cult's faulty discourses regarding sources. Second, I have not used the word 'conspiracy' here but collusion. What the second document clearly proves is that the Baha'is with the assistance of the British government circumvented the rights and national prerogatives of the Iranian government of the day regarding the transfer of monies and the territorial rights of the government of the day to control all transactions in and out of its territories conducted by its citizens. If such a thing had been done today in any country, the parties concerned would be imprisoned for embezzlement, as they would've been done in that day also. Of course there is a long history of financial embezzlement with the Bahais, so this is only the tip of a huge iceburg.

Withal, rather than imputing credibility to the details of some of the  wild conspiracies manufactured by the mullahs over the years, such prima facie documentation assembles the puzzle proving that the conclusion that certain sources have drawn regarding the fifth columnist nature of you Baha'is vis-a-vis Iran is fundamentally sound and correct, although the facts and arguments to get there by these sources were somewhat faulty. The mullahs, however, haven't been the only ones who have pointed out the blatantly obvious about you Baha'is. There have been countless others, and as we proceed along, their poignant observations will also be featured.

But without mentioning them directly, Robert Dreyfuss is primarily drawing attention to facts such as the lifetime friendship of Abdu'l-Hamid Ishraq-Khavari with Ayatollah Khomeini and the attorney status of Baha'i Shahgholi on behalf of Khomeini after the 1963 disturbances. He is also allusively pointing to the fact that members of the Baha'i elite were indeed political and financial beneficiaries of the Revolution and the Khomeinist regime. That said, one should also draw attention to Dr. Sa'eed Khan's remarks regarding the attempts here at plausible denial and misdirection by the Baha'is,

 From Mission Problems in New Persia, 1926, p. 83, 87 & 89 quoted by William McElwee Miller in The Baha'i Faith: It's History and
Teachings, 1973, p. 289.

 "...There is no conscience with them [ i.e. the Baha'is], they keep to no principle, they tell you what is untrue, ignoring or denying undoubted historical facts, and this is the character of both the leader and the led...As to morality and honesty, the whole system has proved disappointing...I have been in contact with many Baha'is, and have had dealings with many and have tested many, and unfortunately I have met not a single one who could be called honest or faithful in the full sense of these words..."

Dr Sa'eed Khan [was] a highly-respected physician...who had as a
doctor treated the second widow of the Bab, and had for a lifetime
known intimately both Babis [i.e. Bayanis] and Baha'is in Tehran and Hamadan.

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Absurdity

I've read a lot of nonsense on the internet, but this article and the subsequent comments it attracted have to rank among the highest for blatant absurdity.

Since when have the opinions of Robert Dreyfuss been infallible? If he had provided some references or rationale for his comments then we ought to consider them, but he didn't, so it's evident his comments were ungrounded speculations.

Moreover, the declassified British documents prove clearly that no conspiracy ever existed. One letter states that the Baha'is were unable to support Abdu'l-Baha financially and requested that the British, who were in control of the land at that time, assist with a money transfer. The other letter clearly states that the British can not contribute anything positive towards the Baha'i Faith, but recognized that Abdu'l-Baha was a voice of moderation, as were his contemporaries Muhammed Abhu and the Persian Mystics, which they welcomed.

Thank you for sharing these two documents as you've just shot yourself in the foot and demonstrated that there's no basis to your argument.

Selective quoting of E.G. Browne by Baha'is

Baha'is like to quote E.G. Browne when it suits them; omit quoting Browne when quoting him would hurt them; or generally bad-mouth E.G. Browne as it suits them! The quote, originally from A Year Amongst the Persians, is identically and more extensively stated about Subh-i-Azal. In fact E.G. Browne had far more flattering things to say about Subh-i-Azal then the Baha'is and Baha'u'llah. The piece quoted comes from Browne's account of the hollywood like James Bond/Cecil B DeMills spectacle that the Baha'is put the good Cambridge professor through before his meeting with their so-called prophet. Much of that item was stated by E.G. Browne facetiously and with his tongue firmly implanted in his cheek. FYI!

But people ought to look at what Mirza Aqa Khan Kirmani has to say about his meeting with Husayn 'Ali Nari, here.

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E.G. Brown, a Cambridge

E.G. Brown, a Cambridge professor, and one of the few Europeans to meet Bahá’u’lláh, penned this description: “The face of him on whom I gazed I can never forget, though I cannot describe it. Those piercing eyes seemed to read one’s very soul; power and authority sat on that ample brow… no need to ask in whose presence I stood, as I bowed myself before one who is the object of a devotion and love which kings might envy and emperors sigh for in vain!”

Haifan Baha'is are not the oppressed. They are the oppressors!

You failed to cite these part of my commandments:

 "gird up your loins and fight the good fight for truth, equity and justice wherever the nonexistent darkness of negation hath cast its shadow and imprisoned the Good in the opaque transparency of its lies."

 "speak the truth even if it be the acme of blasphemous heresy"

" Know that peace without justice is appeasement and encouragement of the tyrant in continuation of his tyranny"

I am only following my own commandments in witnessing and testifying against your corrupt fascist organization and the corrupt satanic masters you serve in IsraHELL.

BTW the only confirmed agent of the Islamic Republic here is the very webmaster of this site, Jahanshah Javid! It is most fascinating to see how you Baha'is and he are sleeping in the same bed together these days and further confirming the words of Robert Dreyfuss 30 years ago,

//www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/hostage.pdf

&

//www.archive.org/details/HostageToKhomeini

...Today the Bahai cult is hated in Iran, and is considered correctly
to be an arm of the British Crown. During the destabilization of the
Shah in 1978, it was widely reported that in several instances the
Bahai cult secretly funded the Khomeini Shi’ite movement. In part, the money would have flowed through the cult’s links to the same
international ‘human rights’ organizations, such as Amnesty
International, that originally sponsored the anti-Shah movement in
Iran. These movements also derive from the “one world” currents
associated with the Bahais since the early 1900s. (If any Iranians
have been misled on the question of the Bahais by the supposed
antipathy of Khomeini’s clique to the Bahais, it should be noted that
the Bahai cultists often deliberately encouraged anti-Bahai activities as camouflage)...

Also see pp. 115-116 (Pdf page 72)

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from the mouth of NUR

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Seek to be a true friend to all nations, colors, creeds, beliefs, persuasions, preferences, for they are all various hues and loci of My manifestation, and the various fruits of the Tree of Existence. For just as there is no inner difference between woman and man, also there is no difference between your colors, creeds, beliefs, persuasions and preferences other than in your own perspectives.

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Seek always to take care of the children, the infirm, the sick, the lame, the ailing, the homeless, the injured, the destitute, the wronged, the oppressed, the downtrodden, the wretched of the earth, the dispossessed and the elderly even if you must sacrifice much from yourselves in so doing, for those in need are in all circumstances My face mirroring Me to thee and a test for thine own advancement, betterment and realization, would ye but know it!

These are 2 of very nice Commandments from Wahid Azals website that any one with half a brain could Write
so now that there is proof every where about the oppression and prosecution of Baha'i in Iran why this NUR has joined IRI by doing the same???
I thought according to your teachings Mr Prophet NUR
you and your followers should help the oppressed not prosecute them?

Hey Wahid

this is your answer? more charto part and accusations?
you sound like a TV evangelist except rooting for another religion...if your religion was not interested in having more people to convert to its bull just like that of Baha'i ,Muslims ,Christians or Jews and so on then why try to hate monger a specific group such as Baha'i and show up here and promote another religion? you have a specific motive and not honest enough to spit it out..the intelligent world does not need your advice on the dangers of some pseudo Islam religion such as Baha'i or yours
And who are you to come up with commandments?
oh I forgot , our earthling intellect is no match for your Alien Bosses!!!
go roll another joint and dream of some more commandments so the masses can follow....

NUR or Darkness?

which?

Your paternal aun't life/jun-i-ammat...

 Jun-i-ammat/your paternal aunt's life you aren't a Baha'i! This is a classic example of Bahai style hikmat/taqiyya in operation. Baha'is will deny their own creed and adopt a gratuitous, self-serving position in a debate with their political adversaries, even arguing the opposite of what they actually believe in order to score cheap points. First of all, I am not inviting you to my religion or wishing any conversions on its behalf whether in Iran or elsewhere. Second, the Bayan is a religion of gnosis ('irfan) so the whole proposition of proseltyzing is a little ridiculous. Our position on this issue is not too dissimilar from that of the Sufi orders. You cannot persuade anyone of the Truth who does have the requisite preparedness (isti'dad) to receive it. Simple as that. Nor are we interested in filling up a classroom or flooding our ranks with numbers for the sake of numbers. Nor, in our opinion, is the Spirit some Kosmic broker trying to make some portofolio look attractive with numbers. The True Spirit does not require believers in it simply for its own sake. The Pure Spirit is! Full-stop!

I am here to set the record straight on the fascism which is Baha'ism and the danger it poses, not just to Iran, but everywhere - to the planet and humanity itself! So fair enough if you don't want to have a religion or believe in anything. I am not trying to convince you either way. The metaphysical complexities of the bigger questions and the subtleties of gnosis (lata'if-i-ma'arifat) are far too sophisticated for any Tom, Dick and Harry to comprehend. As such what is the point of having mass conversions and proseltyzing when by doing so you would have to compromise and dumb down, whitewash and sanitize your integral esoteric doctrine in order to appeal to one-dimensional, herd mentalities that could never comprehend any of this material, or be the kind of adepts to traverse the various stages and waystations of consciousness to witness and realize the Truth for themselves? Baha'ism from the beginning compromised with the devil in order to market its cult and create artificial mass appeal and enrich itself thereby creating yet another prison for the mind. It is not, however, what the Bayan or the Bayanis are about. It is also fundamentally not what the core message of gnosis ('irfan) is about amongst any creed!

So this here completely nullifies your argument and your foaming at the mouth. But here is my 19 Commandments and the principles I actually live by in addition to the Bayan. My religion is a religion beyond all religion, as is the religion of the Primal Point (nuqta ula)! It is religio in its true sense (meaning, 'to bind' or 'bring together') and din in its primary non-Arabic etymology which is derived from the Avestan word Daena, i.e. a name of a Zoroastrian Archangel and one of the yazatas.

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Wahid Azal and the fraud of religion

This Wahid guy or NUR thinks by putting numeric punch points and using bold letters his uninformed and uneducated opinion is actually fact...unfortunately a person with mental health issues and drug addiction as he would actually think his opinions are fact...
so here Wahid see if you can read this clearly and hopefully not too stoned to think it is some kind of conspiracy against just you and for the benefit of British government!!!
I blame all religions including your most hated Bahais for the misery of the world and your new mumbo jumbo religion is just another obstacle for human progress...
Iran has suffered much due to Islam and the world due to religious leaders lust for power...the same issues exist and repeats itself over and over...jews have done it, christians have done it and now muslims are doing it...if Bahais had an iota of power they would do the same...religious fanatics have allways used missdirection and accusation based on no fact at all as you do to hate someone else...the only way to get rid of this cancer to human spirit is to really open your mind and see religions for what they are...they are all cults to make people believe in non existential facts to push a self serving agenda, the difference is some people believe because of the large numbers of believers they are not cults but religion.
Its all bull including your religion and you either are too disturbed to know it or actually have a self serving agenda..

Bahai goofballs running scared

It seems that this goof ball has you cultists all in a double knot scurrying to mobilize all your international resources and mozdurs everywhere. May we all be as singularly impactful goofballs like that.  But speaking of goof balls. For everybody else, consider the following amongst the list of Bahai tactics,

1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed and supporting the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais

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Wahid Azal

I did a research on this goof ball Wahid Azal and he is a drug addict with serious mental health issues.
Funny though he lives in Australia which is the closest cultural colony to Britain!!!
then again he is pushing for another Arab religion like all others from the region and boy that deserves some making fun of...

I am not a Baha'i

Thanks god! I am not a Baha'i.
I really appreciate Mr. Wahid Azal (NUR) for blessing us Iranians with this wonderful postings in the holy AYYAM'I'HA.
Happy NAVRUZ to all in advance.

Bahai Tactics & Techniques: CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

See,
Baha'is In My Backyard
//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU

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Also see,
Recent court victory by the Orthodox Baha'is (OBF = Orthodox Baha'i Faith), and the suit brought by the Haifan Bahaim organization against them:
//trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html
and
//www.truebahai.info/court/139-opinion.pdf  (judge's actual
decision)
Note particularly,
//www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/LF1FFZY0.mp3

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BAHAI Tactics & Techniques - CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence, Harass... etc., etc....  CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed and supporting the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais

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Also see S.G. Wilson,
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4, 1914
&
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue 2,
1914-1915.
at,
//wahidazal66.googlepages.com/babidocuments%28westernsources%29

And, BAHAISM AND THE BRITISH,
//bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home

==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==

Stupidity at its finest

yeah Nur you Moron...like the world needs another stupid religion like yours...its all a bunch of bull and you are just too stupid to open your eyes
fortunately the world is starting to realize the misery of religion specially idiotic and fanatic believes like yours
you are an excuse for a human being for turning a blind eye to what is really going on in Iran and make up this bull and an excuse for a blog
you are not fooling anyone with your false patriotism except may be this idiot "B" which is probably your self trying to act as some one was stupid enough to agree with your charto part...

To the idiot "a mom"

Myself and the rest of the Bayanis are bigger patriots than you and your pathetic British-manufactured, traitorous all-words-no-action kind could ever fathom. And I don't need to hide behind anonymity to tell your mullah friends where to go, either. 

But while we're on the subject, what exactly do you Baha'is believe you have done for Iran? Was it Shahgholi defending Khomeini and pleading him into exile in 1963-64 or was it the lifetime friendship of 'Abdu'l-Hamid Ishraq-Khavari with Khomeini? Was it Habib Sabet and his corruption and sleaze impoverishing thousands of working and middle class non-Bahai Iranians who worked for him and his companies? Was it the cosa nostra, mafia activities of Hozhabr Yazdani? Was it the corruption and destabilizing treachery of people such as Dr Karim Ayadi who undermined the Shah and deliberately misled the state from within? Was it Sherkat-i-Nawnahalan or Sherakat-i-Umana, a big junk of both whose assets Habib Sabet and Hozhabr Yazdani paid as hefty bribes and kickbacks to Khomeini and his goons? Was it perhaps Abbas Effendi's support of the Russian sponsored Muhammad 'Ali Shah Qajar against the Constitutionalists? Or was it the Afnan family who on Baha'u'llah's direct recommendation began trading in opium and were the commercial agents who first introduced opium into Iran from Hong Kong, and thus spawned the whole opium (taryak) culture together with its addiction that we are facing as an epidemic today?

This is what you Baha'is have done for Iran.

As for the 12th Imam, we Bayanis believe the manifestation of the Twelfth Imam has already occured in the person of Siyyid 'Ali Muhammad Shirazi, the Primal Point, the Bab, the Essence of the Seven Letters, so there goes that stupid argument of yours. We're not waiting for anyone. He's already come and gone. Find a better, more creative slur to hurl at me, badbakht, then such stupidity that makes you and the community you are trying to defend look even more stupid than you already are!

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To B

What you say is spot on correct. But the problem is this: what do you do then with an organization of people such as the Baha'is who are determined to deny your existence and lie about your sacred history; trample on your rights; disrespect you and your kind; rig systems against you and conspire against your general livelihood and welfare and that of your kind? The Baha'is have done and are still doing to us Bayanis precisely what they cry about the mullahs doing to them! 

We have no problem in co-existing with these people. And the rank and file, average people amongst them don't have a problem co-existing with us either. The problem is their administration and leadership (i.e. tashkilat). As I said elsewhere, we don't proseltyze (tabligh). We are not interested in converting people to the Bayan. Ours is a different approach to things. But they will not allow us to even exist and are determined to wipe us out and manipulate the collective memory against us, so we are forced to fight back! What would you do if you were in a similar situation?

Also Bahaism is not Babism!

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"...you actually believe that you are a patriot Iranian..."

SHE is not doing it for Iran, she is doing it for Allah and islam, thats what makes it twisted and dark.
They think the faster they fill the world with lies and violence the faster the coming of the 12f Emam. Part of jamkaran cult mentality.
the other one B is her mentor and cheer leader.

NUR Starting to make sense

NUR I read your response in your other blog and thought to leave this response until later when I read other blogs and comments.

You know this is like Islam where for example Nation of Islam's Elajah Muhammad in 1960s, Malcolm X later and now Louis Farakhan. This is what I meant by present day messiahs. Not all of these sects are "as serious", should we say. In Islam it is basically Shitte and Sunnis, Ali and Omar being the disputed successors.

Now it appears that in "Bahaism" it was Bab and then 2 successors Azal (Shirazi was it?) and Bahaullah. Now both sects believe in Bab. Now my question is why isn't it called Babism? Why is it Bahaism?

As I've said I do not believe in many of our resident Bahais claims. Because they say they are not political and then they talk politics more than most. They say they do not preach but they preach more than Jeremiah Wright. They say Bahaullah saw today's financial crisis as well as technical advances and human rights violations in future yet he couldn't stay away from multiple wives during his own time.

Anyway, I believe 1850s is not too long ago and the history is not that far out. Some people say Muhammad, Ali and Omar all were murderor and so on and bring historical facts but believers don't believe. So same in Bahais or Bayanis. You can bring fact and historical data about murders which were rampant back then but believers will still not believe.

So in the end just like the differences between Shiites and Sunnis should not boil to what we saw and still see in Iraq, the differences between Bayani and Bahais should not boil to a similar point either. Both should be free to practice their religions but at some point there should be a limit as to new day religions, I think.

Desperate Baha'is

My record of opposition to the Islamic Republic and the mullocracy is long and well-established. Funny, though, amongst Muslims you Baha'i cultists accuse me of being a Mossad-Freemason spy while amongst Iranians you try to paint me as an agent of the mullahs that you yourselves have a long, well-established connection to.

Let's start with the long friendship of Iranian NSA member and Bahai pseudo-intellectual 'Abd'ul-Hamid Ishraq-Khavari with Khomeini, starting in the days they were seminary students, and then mention Bahai Mr Shahgholi who was the attorney responsible for pleading Khomeini out of a certain death sentence and into exile following the 1963 disturbances he led. Let's then mention the presently well-known business relationship of the Baha'i Khojasteh family with the children of Hashemi Rafsanjani and keep going. The truth of the matter is that Khomeini and the Islamic republic has been the best thing that happened to you Bahais. It has offered you both lucrative financial opportunities as well as lucrative media exposure. Khomeini and the Islamic republic gave you an international soap-box you didn't have before. Khomeini and the Islamic republic gave you relevance which you didn't possess before. Khomeini and the Islamic republic galvanized your Stalinist administrative leadership/order like they weren't before. In short, the Islamic republic and Khomeini  has been the best thing that ever happened to your cult and its agenda -- and as far as I am concerned, this was all by design, since the evidence of the Baha'i elite's complicity in helping destabilize the Shah and handing the country to the obscurantist mullahs is fool-proof.

As for Subh-i-Azal and the Bayanis, their record for nationalist, anti-British and democratic activism is long and well-established; and Subh-i-Azal never received a knighthood for "services rendered unto the British government" as Abbas Effendi did.  Nor did any of the Bayanis ever cooperate with the British and have the British government circumvent the Iranian government of the day to send the Bayani leadership money, as the Baha'is in Iran did by circumventing the Iranian government in 1919-1921 in sending money to Abbas Effendi in Palestine via the British embassy (whose declassified documentation is unassailable). In short, as far as factual historical documentation is concerned, you Baha'is do not have a leg to stand on - and neither do your mullah friends whose agency on behalf of the British establishment is long established.

Also Subh-i-Azal before 1867-8 was the undisputed head of the Babis. Because he decided not to play ball with your British and European colonial masters, these European colonial/British scumbags foisted his own older brother against him and created the schism known by us Bayanis as the direful mischief (fitneh-ye saylam), making Husayn 'Ali Nari into a "prophet," funding and protecting his partisans to the hilt, and so thereby creating Baha'ism. And that is the truth of the matter!

I'm just here to tell you that the game is finally up, and that you might have succeeded in hoodwinking people for a little while, but that now it is all fast coming to an end.

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Thank you Mr.NUR

I thought your clan claimed that they were Israeli spys not long ago...I guess they are spying for whomever you claim to push IRIs agenda so proudly and play on weak minded religious idiots that believe your bs islamic propaganda.
isn't this sort of thing out of your league NUR? shouldn't you talk about how your Imam says which finger to use to wipe your butt with???
your Article and your charto part comments are funny to me and the only part that makes me sad is you actually believe that you are a patriot Iranian...

"azizam"!!!

they got the wealth of Iran to fabricate identities, manufacture lies, befriend the unsuspecting iraninan youth then distribute opium to them just to destroy anything that is good or can generate inteligence in Iran.

now post the picture you took at JAMKARAN with your real profile,

رقیبان ازلیِ بهائیت، نخستین مروجان نظریه‌ توطئه

رقیبان ازلیِ بهائیت، نخستین مروجان نظریه‌ توطئه

اما این اتهام از کجا سرچشمه می ‌گیرد؟ ریشه‌ اتهام ارتباط بهائیان با خارجی‌ها چندگانه است.

در دوره ‌اولیه‌ دیانت بهائی، شاخه‌ های مذهبی همسایه‌ آن مانند "ازلی‌ها" تیر این اتهام را به سوی بهائیت روانه کردند.

آن ‌گونه که خانم مانگول بیات در کتاب "نخستین انقلاب ایران؛ تشیع و انقلاب مشروطیت 1909-1905"
(Iran's First Revolution: Shi'ism and the Constitutional Revolution of 1905-1909)

آورده است، ازلی ‌ها که در جنبش مشروطیت فعال بودند و از نظر مذهبی رقیب بهائیان به شمار می ‌رفتند، کوشیدند تا با جا انداختن برچسب "ارتباط با خارجی" حقانیت و اصالت دین بهائیت را به پرسش بگیرند.

ازلی‌ها پیروان میرزا یحیی نوری، ملقب به صبح ازل، جانشین محمد علی باب، بنیادگذار آیین بابی، بودند و در آغاز به ضرورت جهاد و براندازی مسلحانه‌حکومت قاجاریه باور داشتند.

میرزا حسین‌علی بهاء (بعدها بهاء الله)، برادر پدری میرزا یحیی نوری بود. پس از مدتی میان دو برادر بر سر جانشینی پدر اختلاف و دشمنی عمیق افتاد. بابیان به دو شاخه‌ ازلی‌ ها و بهائی‌ ها تقسیم شدند. گروه‌ ازلی‌ها دیری نپایید و فروپاشید، اما بهائیان تا به امروز در سراسر جهان روی به گسترش و فزونی نهادند.

از سوی دیگر، بر پایه‌ آنچه در کتاب "بریتانیا و انقلاب مشروطیت ایران 1911-1906؛ سیاست خارجی، امپریالیسم و مخالفت"
(Britain and the Iranian Constitutional Revolution of 1906-1911; Foreign Policy, Imperialism and Dissent(
، نوشته‌منصور بنکداریان آمده است، ارتداد شماری از یهودیان به آیین بابی و بهائی و نیز گرویدن شماری از انگلیسی‌ها به بهائیت، بدگمانی‌ها در باره‌رابطه‌بابی‌ ها و بهائی ‌ها به "بیگانگان" را افزود.

گفتنی است که از آغاز پیدایش بهائیت، شمار فراوانی از روحانیان شیعه و پیروان ادیان دیگر مانند زردتشتی به این دین گرویده ‌اند.

Connected?

Mrs.Nur,

If Baha'u'llah was a British agent then Azal was a British agent too.If Baha'u'llah was a British agent then Bab was a British agent too.
As everybody knows Bab was executed in Tabriz and Baha'u'llah and his stepbrother Mr.Azal were sent to exile to Iraq/Baghdad.
Then either all of them were British agents or non of them were British agents.
As all Iranians know and again according to historical evidences Ghajar's relationship with British was VERY VERY GOOD (Ghajars were British's nookar.Ghajars were British's slaves).BAB WOULD NEVER BEEN EXECUTED IF HE WAS CONNECTED TO BRITISH.BAHA'U'LLAH WOULD NEVER BEEN SENT TO EXILE IF HE WAS CONNECTED TO BRITISH.
Yes, yes, yes Abd'ul-baha got the titel "sir". Nelson Mandela and Eqbal Lahori got the titel "sir" TOO.

I am not a Bahai, but what I can say for sure, is that your blogs are LIES.
What British need and love, is exactly people like YOU!

Get a life!

Good bye

blah blah blah

Crying wolf to God is the classic tactic of your British manufactured "profit" no one else, 'azizam. Here is unassailable documented evidence of your cult's association with the British establishment, and you don't have a hope to answer it so resort to misdirected platitudes. 

 As for the Godhead, how do you know I don't Speak for It, and it is you and your mob who are the wolf-criers??

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Can you cry wolf to God?

Assume that you crying wolf fooled someone here, which is very unlikely given that your manifesto reveals much about your delusional realities.
Can you cry wolf to God and fool him!?
We know this is something they teach you when they shove the hate mongering skills down your throat.
But give us a break not everyone is as naive as you.

You come out of nowhere, literally and start slandering people with all kind of tactics and when you get a reasonable civil response you badmouth them. Then you cry that others are using the tactics they taught you in jabaran!

I hope you get well compensated here for your rubbish cause you are not going to fool God. Unless you think you get something from the all-ah in your imagination.

Bahai Tactics & Techniques: CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

Glad you liked it B. For everyone else, 

 See,
Baha'is In My Backyard
//video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2877478116441126906&hl=en-AU

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Also see,
Recent court victory by the Orthodox Baha'is (OBF = Orthodox Baha'i Faith), and the suit brought by the Haifan Bahaim organization against them:
//trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seeker/court_case.html
and
//www.truebahai.info/court/139-opinion.pdf  (judge's actual
decision)
Note particularly,
//www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/LF1FFZY0.mp3

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BAHAI Tactics & Techniques - CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel, Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite, Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully, Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence, Harass... etc., etc....  CAUTION NON-BAHAIS

1. As far as possible they hold back from responding
2. Then they claim no knowledge of the given issue by feigning
ignorance
3. After the exposer has exposed they will try to divert to secondary
and totally peripheral and irrelevent side-issues
4. The exposer is then painted as someone with an axe to grind,
biased, deluded (while they, the bahaim, still have not responded to
the main issue exposed)
5. Next they relate mental instability and insanity to the exposer,
i.e. shoot the messenger
6. Then, the last tactic, is to wheel out several dubious personas on
the scene who claim to be neutral non-bahai observers who then begin attacking the exposer as well as the issue exposed and supporting the bahais and their issues as so-called non-bahais

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Also see S.G. Wilson,
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS ASSASSINATION The Muslim World vol. 4, issue 4,
1914
&
BAHAISM AND RELIGIOUS DECEPTION The Muslim World, Volume 5, Issue 2,
1914-1915.
at,
//wahidazal66.googlepages.com/babidocuments%28westernsources%29

And, BAHAISM AND THE BRITISH,
//bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home

==CAUTION NON-BAHAIS==

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here is the latest; the Brits are controlling and using the minds of the mentally ill. they say if they cant use their own brain then we gonna use it.
its cheap and plenitude.
the only option is to take the meds religiously.
over