How Do You Think The IRI Will Meet Its End?

Onlyiran
by Onlyiran
29-Oct-2010
 

The IRI will eventually collapse.  It’s inevitable.  No dictatorship survives an educated, modern (mostly modern) society like Iran. But how do you think it will meet its end? Please vote. Here are the options:

1)      Overthrown in a bloody revolution / uprising;

2)      Internal coup by a small cadre of its security forces who see the regime as being un-reformable and doomed in its current form;

3)      Reform by political process as a result of elections;

4)      “Bloodless coup” by a group of its ruling elite who have the backing of the security forces;

5)      Desertion of its political and military elite as a result of crippling economic sanctions;

6)      Military attack by a foreign force.

7)      Combination of several of these factors (specify which ones).

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bushtheliberator

dear VPK, I can share your goals,but not your strategy

by bushtheliberator on

When Iranians establish a secular democratic republic,then I'll spring for the cake, icecream,and party hats.If you think you can get there without a civil war, go for it.


Rea

Let's all hope for no. 3

by Rea on

It may take longer but it will spare lives.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

bushtheliberator

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

You are welcome about the offer. Don't turn it down yet. 

Regarding the struggle in Iran I tell you. It is not between moderate or radical Islam. It is not a struggle withing Islam. That is where your experts are wrong. Iti s a struggle for freedom FROM Islam. We don't want a moderate Islam we want NO Islam.

Western Orientalists do not see this. They just want to go back to the time where Muslims were well behaved and subservient. Many of us Iranians want to break free of Islam altogether. That is where the struggle lies.

That is what  intellectuals  and politicians do not want to admit. In fact they try to cover it and keep us in the dark at every step. Because when that happens Iran will flower again. That is what so many want to prevent.


bushtheliberator

dear VPK , that IS the " Idea " !!! You're a neo-neo-con. !

by bushtheliberator on

  Iran's democratization struggle is the most crucial battlefield of the Long War.But unlike most visitors here, I'm not asking for, or expecting the IRI's sudden demise.I much prefer this struggle be WITHIN Islam, and between Najaf, and Qom> the most potent force needed then is righteous Islam.

  Thanks for the offer to help,but you need to get your own Taliban-Thugs off your back first. 


bushtheliberator

Before you pull the trigger,check out YouTube Iraqi mash-up.

by bushtheliberator on

dear Parthianshot91,

     National Public Radio led me to

       " I Shot You Babe ",  DJ Foundations

Let's hope those sly Persians can democratize their society with a lot less Sonny & Cher.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Eshtebah kardam

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

ke be in shakhs jabab daram. Vagteh khodam ra dige talaf nemikonm.


Fesenjoon

مشخصه که

Fesenjoon


مشخصه که بچه‌ای هنوز.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Re: lol

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

Do you ever say anything meaningful. Or is it just sarcasm to push your anti Iranian agenda?


Fesenjoon

lol...

by Fesenjoon on

"The IRI is weak"?

Hah! Ive heard that one for 30 years now. Keep on dreaming.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Parthianshot91

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I agree with you once again 100 %. I vividly remember my father saying: "Shah is solid like a mountain" about 6 months before Shah left Iran! People do not realize how weak IRI  hold on people is. Their only control is military.

Many seemingly unmovable governments have fallen. Many stranger things happened. I love to see the expression on the faces of some people when IRI is gone. The important thing is to be prepared to deal with what comes next.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

bushtheliberator

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Here is an idea. Once the IRI is replaced US should pay Iran to take care of Afghanistan. This will save you lives and money. I bet post IRI Iran will be able to take care of the Taliban for half what you are spending now. Plus we will also get it right. I had an American friend of mine suggest just that. He said and I quote "The Iranians are Afghanistan's natural overlords"; he was very right. Afghans will naturally fall in line under Iranian supervision. 

I know some neocon types dream of dividing Iran. The reverse is what it needed. To reunite all the parts of Greater Iran in order to establish order and sanity.Or else you have to spend countless billions of US dollars forever to keep the peace.


Parthianshot91

None needs to invade

by Parthianshot91 on

If any war breaks outs, the u.s can do it's part by bombing the irgc bases, they're the only thing that are keeping the Islamic republic regime together, without them they pose no threat to the people.

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

 "I'd rather be hated for w


bushtheliberator

It's YOUR fkd-up country,but I'm the ONLY voter for #3 :Reform

by bushtheliberator on

Your Least Informed about Iran Visitor still sees 3., Reform as the ONLY choice that doesn't risk a descent into chaos,& national destruction.I can't see the IRI going down without a fight. or the emergence of a democratic republic as the assured outcome.

As to #6,so sorry, but we're VERY busy liberating other folks at this time.We're spending $1.5 million/day non-military on a US policy of regime change in Iran, but Iranians will need to do their own heavy lifting


Parthianshot91

They said the same about shah

by Parthianshot91 on

Many back then never even dreamed of over throwing the shah, now we have a weaker stupider government that barely has any support amongst the population. The only problem is, every year this govenment is in power, Iran goes backward and not forward, so we can't wait too long for the sake of our nation and people.

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

 "I'd rather be hated for w


Parthianshot91

diff combination of 1, 5, and 6

by Parthianshot91 on

People like me will make number 1 a reality :)

 

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

 "I'd rather be hated for w


Majid

Onlyiran

by Majid on

If I was so disliked and so unwanted  and hated in a web site (which I wasn't welcomed there to begin with) as this guy is I would disappear like a fart in a wind!

 

He just doesn't get it does he?


Onlyiran

Tahgord

by Onlyiran on

No one asked for your opinion.  And no one is interested in reading your stupid blog.  Get lost.


Onlyiran

Very interesting. No reform option

by Onlyiran on

No one has selected the "reform through elections" option.  I share that sentiment.  The IRI is nor reformable, and I said as much in a previous blog.

 //iranian.com/main/blog/onlyiran/why-iri-cannot-be-reformed-comparative-look

I also have to say that I am fearful that what "fesenjoon" says may be correct.  Let's hope not. 

Thank you all--except for Tahgord-- for your comments. 


Fesenjoon

Ommmmran

by Fesenjoon on

I hate to break it to you guys, but it will actually turn out to be:

8. This regime will outlive us all. Our grandchildren will witness a country brimming with political chaos and turmoil, but still, called The Islamic Republic of Iran. And some poeple here will still be hoping for another revolution. 

 

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" --Blaise Pascal


Bavafa

When it happens and I know it will happen

by Bavafa on

I will hope that Iranians people take the proper care to ensure a democratic, secular and independent system is put in place and will not be hijacked or derailed by internal thugs or external powers

Mehrdad


oktaby

```

by oktaby on

#6

I would modify phrasing of 6 by replacing 'a' with 'yet another'.

#2 started before June 2009 puppet show 

OKtaby


Red Wine

...

by Red Wine on

1,2 and 8 as how said Mr Amir Kabir .

Thank you for your blog dear friend OnlyIran.

 


maziar 58

..

by maziar 58 on

8,7,6,1

be omeede hagh.  Maziar


Anonymous Observer

I, 2 or 4

by Anonymous Observer on

or a combination thereof.  


Shazde Asdola Mirza

8) Head first in the toilet

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

Every voice counts! Every action counts!


Sargord Pirouz

HaHaHa! The folly of

by Sargord Pirouz on

HaHaHa! The folly of predicting Iran's second revolution again:

//iranian.com/main/blog/sargord-pirouz/ir...


comrade

I daresay...

by comrade on

I don't see it happening in my lifetime. I don't take the "collective wish" as evidence.

The biggest challenge for IRI is how its ruling bunch will fill the void of leadership after Khamenei's death. There are many factors involved, some of which revolve around the question "who will die first?". 

Never increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

 


Roozbeh_Gilani

#1, unfortunately.

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

And the bloodshed will be inversely proportional to the number of social classes who'd participate in the uprising. Unlike what some believe or claim, the regime will not show much resistance if the opposition on the streets and factories  are large enough and more importantly organised and armed to fight back, bullet with bullet. 

The other options you mentioned will not lead to complete dismantling and removal  of this calamity called "political islam" from our land.

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


amirkabear4u

Combination of 2 & 8 !!!!

by amirkabear4u on

I think it would be Internal coup by a small cadre of its security forces who see the regime as being un-reformable and doomed in its current form with the backing of other forces (NOT foriegn)

8) other (NOT foreign) forces !!!!!

 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

2; 4; 5

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Or some combination of those.Khamenei will die or is helped out to the next world. Then they figure they might as well get on to "reform".