When I was writing my recent blog Zionazis, about the formative experience I had which had led me to become a non-Zionist, I thought I’d google to find something to use as a quote, something about how difficult and yet how necessary it is to stand alone. Because that experience had made me feel profoundly alone.
I didn't quite find what I was looking for but I did come across a quote from Rainer Marie Rilke on the necessity of being lonely if one is to be able to fully love. Rilke is generally considered to have been the greatest German-language poet of the first half of the twentieth century. He was not a prolific poet, he found that a protacted gestation period, often years, was necessary for his experiences to be assimilated and transmuted into poetry. For him both life and poetry were a slow process, to evolve at their own pace, meaningful in their depth, not breadth. The excerpt comes from a very famous collection known as Letters to a Young Poet which are exactly that, replies he’d written in 1903-4 to a series of letters to him from a young unknown poet. .
For myself, I’ve recently known loneliness in its darkest recesses imaginable, so dark I couldn't even recount them here, at least not yet.. I'm not quite sure yet if it's taught me to love more fully, I think so, time will tell. But I do know it's helped me to be less afraid.
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The Seventh Letter,
April, 1904
Everything in nature grows and struggles in its own way, establishing its own identity, insisting on it at all cost, against all resistance. We can be sure of very little, but the need to court struggle is a surety that will not leave us. It is good to be lonely, for being alone is not easy. The fact that something is difficult must be one more reason to do it.
To love is also good, for love is difficult. For one human being to love another is perhaps the most difficult task of all, the epitome, the ultimate test. It is that striving for which all other striving is merely preparation. For that reason young people - who are beginners in everything - cannot yet love; they do not know how to love. They must learn it. With their whole being, with all strengths enveloping their lonely, disquieted heart, they must learn to love - even while their heartbeat is quickening. However, the process of learning always involves time set aside for solitude.Thus to love constantly and far into a lifespan is indeed aloneness, heightened and deepened aloneness for one who loves.
Love does not at first have anything to do with arousal, surrender, and uniting with another being - for what union can be built upon uncertainty, immaturity and lack of coherence? Love is a high inducement for individuals to ripen, to strive to mature in the inner self, to manifest maturity in the outer world, to become that manifestation for the sake of another. This is a great, demanding task; it calls one to expand one´s horizon greatly.
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rosie joon, sit with your loneliness while you can...
by Monda on Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:39 PM PSTor let it sit with you deeply. Eckhart Tolle has a thing or two about the power of being truly present in your loneliness. If you have time, look up his "Power of NOW". Nonresistance doesn't necessarily mean doing nothing. All it means is that any "doing" becomes nonreactive. Remember the wisdom underlying the practice of Eastern martial arts: don't resist the opponent's force. Yield to overcome.
Thank you for introducing me to Rilke.
Thank you
by rosie is roxy is roshan on Sat Jan 31, 2009 01:24 PM PSTfor the beautiful comments.
Roxane
Ms. rosie is roxy is roshan
by capt_ayhab on Sat Jan 31, 2009 09:10 AM PSTEver since I have started commenting in Iranian.com, I have come across many of your posts. I can't say that I agree with all of your comments, but I can proudly say that I have learned to admire your candor and your simple, pure language of honesty.
The piece you have posted is awesome to say the least. Please never stop sharing your writings and your wisdom.
Respectfully
capt_ayhab [-YT]
Rosie azizam ..
by javaneh29 on Sat Jan 31, 2009 05:25 AM PSTa very thought provoking post and your honesty is something I have come to respect you for.
Aziz, life goes in cycles ... welll this is my experience anyway and what I observe about the lives of others. '....... Have you read Johnathan living seagull ??? Im sure you have but i fully recommend you re read it. It is a very poignant reflections about survival and lonliness. There was a quote in there somewhere. that went something like this ' problems never come without a gift in its hands for you'. I cant find my copy at the moment but that was the sentiment. I never forget this when I face the problems of life.
Its strange isn't it that you can be lonlier in a relationship than you can be out of one. Love is hard... the hardest thing in the world sometimes, beit love for oneself or for another, whatever the relationship.
Thanks for making me think about this anew. I think despite having been through one hell of a life(!) I am the luckiest person I know. I have my husband and although we go through patches when we are dis-connected, our love is something I have faith in 100%. ButRosie Jann, it wasn't always like this for me and it won't always be like it is now for you either.
Evolve azizam. Now, this time of aloneness... its part of your life process.
Ghorbunet shoma ... I understand where you are coming from.
Javaneh
For the light that shines, Roshan
by Nazy Kaviani on Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:13 PM PSTMy body is surrounded
My soul feels lonely
Arms wrapped around my shoulders
My soul stands solitary
My ear hears whispers
My soul sits in silence
My mouth utters words
My soul keeps quiet
My body goes to celebrations
My soul stays behind
Thinking
Gathering
Providing
Nourishing
Me.
You're right, Doctor,
by rosie is roxy is roshan on Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:09 PM PSTNature.
I'll try to remember that. Nature.
And I hope that my friends who are reading this who are lonely too remember it also. Everything in nature is difficult, everything strives to be completely itself, no matter what.And everything in nature protects. Nature is life itself.
Thank you so much.
Actually
by Free Spirit on Fri Jan 30, 2009 09:59 PM PSTif I may say so. Zion is a woman.
Believe me
by Zion on Fri Jan 30, 2009 09:43 PM PSTIt's all just about getting some. Including this new benevolent understanding act below this one.
That's it. I'm outta here.
nature
by Dr. Parviz Torkeh (not verified) on Fri Jan 30, 2009 09:39 PM PSTI enjoyed this blog. Regarding your very last paragraph
"It's deep. But it's very hard to find that inner space these days with all the cacaphony, speed, and CONSUMPTION of everything including sex and turnstile relationships, of modern life."
Nature perhaps can help shield lots of interferences with our loneliness. It will protect us against lots of noises.
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p.s. whoever this scum bag Zion is, I have seen worse, but he is a runner up. He is yet to offer one interesting sentence in any blog. His shameless comment here was despicable. Nobody is here to get a piece.
Parviz /Free, others
by rosie is roxy is roshan on Fri Jan 30, 2009 09:34 PM PSTFree, Z. has ample reason to be angry with me now, and please just let it lie.
Parviz, others, you have to remember that Rilke lived at a time when he did not have the "benefit" of the sexual revolution. He was very progressive and like most visionary poets a bit prophetic. He sensed the coming Zeitgeist, the spirit of the times, the winds of change. He knew women would be liberated and he knew that relationshps would be redefined. In his day it was a very revolutionary statement socially and psychologically to postulate that one must first become oneself before embarking on a committed relatonship. At that time people just married, and married young, and had families because they were supposed to.
I think one of the problems these days it that because of the sexual revolution people become sexually intimate with others as a matter of course. Then they get involved emotionally in relationships because of the physical intimacy, not the other way around. Despite all the talk about how people (especially men) no longer need that emotional involvement and can have sex and move on to greener pastures, it is not true. Sane people tend to get involved with the people they sleep with. So people due to a biological urge (intensely ccompunded by the equation of the media of sex with consumption, of the "good life" which constantly stimulates people sexually) people constantly seek sex. And then, boom, they are involved in a relationship. With someone half the time you shouldn't be with. And so you never have time to find out who YOU are.
Rilke was progressive, he rejected marriage before one knew oneself. (in 1904! In GERMANY! ). At the same time sex was not easily accessible, except with prostitutes.
So when he talked about alone, and loneliness and solitude he really meant it.
It's deep.
But it's very hard to find that inner space these days with all the cacaphony, speed, and CONSUMPTION of everything ,including sex and turnstile relationships, of modern life.
Yet there come those times...when we are alone anyway despite all the frenetic movement...and we should learn to value those times to deepen and enrich our self-knowledge. Often real suffering is involved, when you lose someone you love. But then you have to say well WHY did I lose the person I loved. Because neither of us knew yet how to love fully...and sit with it and feel the pain, and all the doors that pain can open...and you become fuller, richer. That's what's happening to me.
But it ain't easy.
Well, at least you....
by Free Spirit on Fri Jan 30, 2009 09:19 PM PSTacknowledge it.
You must also understand that to some on this thread it is not an attempt as you put "to get some" but rather an attempt to gain a deeper understanding into the need to be alone for a period of time.
It is not the same for everyone.
No, not really necessary
by Zion on Fri Jan 30, 2009 09:02 PM PSTbut it didn't hurt either, all this, like everything else, being dramatic spiel just to get some. ;-)
Really now....
by Free Spirit on Fri Jan 30, 2009 08:54 PM PSTwas that comment really necessary?
This blog is not even about politics.
You only posted it because you don't seem to like the author.
This blog is actually relevant to others on this thread.
[yawn]
by Zion on Fri Jan 30, 2009 08:23 PM PST[more yawn]
I agree......
by Free Spirit on Fri Jan 30, 2009 07:54 PM PSTyet at times one can get so used to it. It becomes difficult to come forth from loneliness and into a fulfilling relationship.
Might lack the leap of faith to do so.
Until you know yourself, you can't love anyone fully
by I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek on Fri Jan 30, 2009 07:39 PM PSTLoneliness can provide so many opportunities for self-discovery. We have to grow on our own before we can grow with another person. Otherwise, you become dependent. Personal strength can definitely come from this stage in anyone's life.
good point
by Dr. Parviz Torkeh (not verified) on Fri Jan 30, 2009 07:11 PM PSTand it makes sense. The problem is that it would be nice to also have a physical person to love. A lot of time love in loneliness is a hope and reinforcing dream. Although beautiful and useful, one would be so lucky to actually find a person as well.
Do you like checking out foreign movies at the library? I find them very nourishing during loneliness. Much better than Hollywood movies or tv.
You'll Never Walk Alone........
by Free Spirit on Fri Jan 30, 2009 06:41 PM PST//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNRHcLo-UEY