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Mehdi jan, that's a

Mehdi jan, that's a given...they don't understand his work and so like the town mobs of yore, turn up with pitchforks, torches and a lot of senseless, unreasoned yelling...

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

Good work Sadegh jan

I get the feeling that a lot of the people who criticize Said and call him racist haven't even read any of his work. 

Some books of his that I would recommend:

Orientalism

Culture & Imperialism

Covering Islam

zion, thanks for the laugh

you are talking about "hate filled, chauvinist, self-pitying victim mentality double speak" ?

It's not that Middle

It's not that Middle Easterners are all one people, no one ever said that - it is rather that they share commonalities in the way they have been and continue to be REPRESENTED by Western pseudo-scholarship, embedded journalists, tv, cinema, literature - all off the back of imperialist wars mind you, with no other aim other than plundering, pillaging and rapine under the guise of safeguarding 'civilization' and 'decency'. BIG BIG difference...

Also thanks to Mehdi... 

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

I know

I know I have insulted the real religion of some of you and laughed at yet another pathetic prophet of yours, but hey that's something I always do with pleasure, being a zionist and all that.

Said is himself guilty of what he tries to preach about the West. His entire agenda revolves around the Arab-Israeli issue, but in order to promote his Arab-centric agenda he has chosen to cover it up under a whole "theory" of Occidentalism and how it supposedly views the Orient. That's why he always talks about Arabs. Is the Orient comprised solely of Arabs? That is why he chooses his dates and events so conveniently. The beginning is Napoleon's entry to Egypt. Really? One would have thought an unbiased real scholar would have started with the Greeks, with Alexander at latest and the entire army of philosophers like Aristotle who devised theories of "Asia". That would have taken the attention away from Arabs and Palestine, however, you see? No good. After all he wants to portray Islam as this Eastern source of wisdom the West misunderstands. Going back to origins with Greeks would have defied the purpose. Islam itself originated as a heretic sect of Christianity, a Greco-Roman religion, combined with pagan Arab forces who favored Byzantine Rome to the Persian empire. That is why the Koran rejoices in the victory of Rome, or why Alexander has been deliberately adopted by muslims as the messiah figure to oppose the Torah-Bible's choice of Cyrus. None of this would have worked for the palestinian issue which even gets its name from Roman colonialism. He then had to mention Arab-Islamic colonization of the Middle East and the production of ideological colonial knowledge by muslim scholars to justify Islamic imperialism and he doesn't want to do that, why should he? So our Christian "Palestinian" scholar of orientalism and Islam must focus instead on Napoleon and the colonization of these lovely peaceful multiculturalist Arabs by the weird Europeans who we are asked to believe have invented all the usual colonial mentality out of thin air! None of this age old practice ever existed before Arabs got colonized. Right!
Every twist and turn, every lie and misinformation, to serve his "Palestinian" agenda. That is also why he had to deplore the way Khomeini's revolution had been 'portrayed' by 'Orientalists back in early 80s. I guess he didn't bother to check inside Iran before he died to see almost all the population have turned into 'Orientalists' by now (His uptight character was not capable of enjoying or even understanding these sorts of ironies anyway.) Most of what he says only matches with his own approach really. He evidently couldn't see anything outside of those ideological glasses. No wonder his entire career was comprised of basically recounting over and over again the only thing he could see through that narrow tunnel, and nothing else.

Worship his Highness and keep parroting his ideological masturbations as long as you like. Just give the rest of us a break. OK?

Packing & marking a whole group of nations as middle easterners

is pretty ignorant...for instance iranians are mostly North Asians & Eurasians...what does a mountain Kurd have in common with a Gujrati of Karachi? or a Gilak or Azari in Caspean with a Bedoin in Jizan(Saudi Arabia) on Red Sea? ..it,s the same generalized ignorant comment..I agree with Dr Saeed on Hollywood well known villifying of Arab characters , but He is bringing along the rest of middle east to give his argument more legetimacy..He should call it with it,s right name "Arab negative image on media" which is sad and reasons behind it needs a separate booklet..I,m yet to see a western movie villifying Iranians as a Lur,Kurd,Azari,Baluchi,Persian..The only few that are  made are in fact responces to IRI mischiefs & terror culture..on the contrary western media & authors through tons of literaly work have been in awe & admiration of Iranian heritage & culture even against the massive western bashing that some of our so called elitist religious left like "Al Ahmad" have spoofed in their direction....Dr Saeed & Al Ahmad were both twins that suffered from cutural/political Schizophrenia

No problem Natalia...thanks

No problem Natalia...thanks again for the kind words...take care...

adfsd, goes by the name hahaha, abc and various others on this site and seems to have a vendetta against me. He slanders without any facts or serious argument and claims to be indifferent to what I write and then comments on many entries I post on the Iranian. Please don't insult a great man - if you can't understand his work you shouldn't comment - so your point is, how could a Middle Easterner possibly know more about his own environment, language and culture than people who have never even met an Arab or Persian or travelled to the region? So I take it no Americans are any longer permitted to comment on American politics, if we are to take your own criteria seriously, they aren't 'impartial' after all. You better send out a group email right away so as to let all the pundits know...What a joke...

Said's entire point was respecting difference not promoting divisiveness - if you cared about anything other than grinding your own hateful axe you would have known that...I'm not going to debate you any further, you're a waste of my time...I have many times happily and fruitfully debated with individuals who disagree with my positions on this site, such as Jamshid, Anonymous Observer, Kaveh Nouraee and many others, you are obviously not one of them and I have no interest in indulging you any longer, say whatever you like...decent people see right through you...

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

hahaha: Like Persians or

hahaha: Like Persians or muslim are not anglophobe/anti-semitic/westophobe/christianphobe racists who call for extermination of others (Infidels)???

so what?

So the west is racist.
Why do we care?
Look at Chinese, Japanese, AND the Jewish people. They relied on themselves and stand tall. Look at India as it rises and gathers self confidence.

Why worry about "Orientalism"? Why look at ourselves through the Western eyes??

By the way, Said was a Christian born to Christian parents. He should be studied & respected, but not blindly followed. Sorry he died relatively young.

Dear Sadegh......thank you......

At the university we discussed his book Orientalism and actually were able to see a short video on it. It was a sociology class called Minorities in America.

It was very nice to view the video clips that you provided.

I also, look forward to viewing the links that Mehdi-Palang provided. I have never seen it.  

Solh va Doosti

Natalia

Merci Sadegh, more people

Merci Sadegh, more people need to be made aware of Western racism against Persians, Arabs and Indians.

Said was a racist and ethnocentric liar

Sadegh, the resident hater on this site, is enticing and agitating again; preaching more divisiveness and hatred.

Said was a racist and ethnocentric liar. How could anyone from the ME be objective on anything Middle Eastern??? How do you people live with yourself???

And thanks to Mehdi. very

And thanks to Mehdi. very well said...

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

To Zion

What hate-filled chauvinism are you talking about/victim mentality?  I have never seen any group  play up their status as historical victims more than I have seen the Ashkenazi Jews.  Of course you have been expecting this, because you are self-righteous and anybody or anything that does not agree with your ultra racist view of the world (zionism) is labeled as trite or "double-speak". 

I hope that you are proud of your violently colonialistic government in "Israel".  Your crooked government does not even have the decency to join the NPT or abide by international law.  I think that alone shows the intellectual extent and morality that Zionists hold. 

[you do know that the whole world is not just about you and your people, right?]

Thank - You

I have been meaning to write a thoughtful blog about this subject, but I'm glad that you have done that for me. 

For anyone who like this video listen to this speech of Edward Said's on "Culture and Imperialism"

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Zio-Nazis and Shaban bi Mokhs

The U.S. and British intelligence agencies used the services of a street thug and intimidator named "Shaban bi Mokh" in order to help overthrow Mosaddeq's government and reinstall the Shah as a puppet dictator. This role has now been assumed by "Fred"; the only difference is that his masters now live in Tel Aviv in the Holy State of the Chosen People. The term for such lowly non-Chosen People who perform menial tasks for the Chosen is "Shabbas Goyim".

As a rule of thumb, those who bark the loudest about "anti-semitism" are also the biggest Goy-haters.

Thanks Sadaia, Natalia and

Thanks Sadaia, Natalia and Amir...hope you found the video of interest...

Ba Arezu-ye Movafaghiat, Sadegh

YES

Referring to part I, 18th and 19th century British books are just like that.

Fred today is your lucky day!

I not only nominate you for this comparative study that you feel is necessary but I also volunteer you for it. (How is that for a play on words for ya?)

Best of luck with the research! Zion can be your research assistant.

Solh va Doosti

Natalia

Master weavers

A comparative study of the Islamist charlatan Ale-Ahmad’s Magnum opus Westoxication with Said’s Orientalism is needed for there are great similarities in both structure and how delicately misinformation is woven in. For reference to the destructive nature of the Westoxication three generations of Iranians could be used as reference. This comparative could be a self healing psychotherapy for any cured former Edward Said wannabes.  The Islamist/Anti-Semites and their likeminded lefty allies need not to bother for their malady requires intensive professional intervention.  

Gasp! Could it be that

Zion is finally making a break through and admitting to  being the following:"hate filled, chauvinist, self-pitying victim mentality double speak".

To think that I almost missed his coming out party. The Horror! :o)

Zion, I read the stuff in your posted links. In one of them they call Salman Rushdie a scholar. hahahaahahaha Is this some kind of joke?

I must say that I needed a good laugh. hahahahahaha  I can now go to sleep a happy woman.

Solh va Doosti

Natalia

Been expecting this

It was about time to get to the core of all this hate filled, chauvinist, self-pitying victim mentality double speak:
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THANKS

Sadegh,

It is always a pleasure reading your posts.

Thanks.