Sargord Pirouz II

Two years has passed

Since the criminal regime of Israel bombed the civilians in Gaza and these pictures are from that masscre. Where 1400 civilians were killed by Israeli bombs, hundreds of the them women and children.

The same racist criminal regime is planning an attack on Iran by provoking United States to do it for her. And their lackies on this website are pushing the same line using many different user names. This is what it is all about.

Delavar1, I know Khomeini had thousands killed

Dear Delavar1, I was being sarcastic. Of course, Khomeini was directly responsible for the deaths of 20,000 Iranians (a rather conservative estimate) who were killed during his 10 years in power, including many adolescents, students, young women, and even children. That makes him a far bigger killer of Iranians than any other Iranian leader in modern times. Since he refused to make peace during the war with Iraq from after 1982 until finally in 1988, he also bears some responsibility for the hundreds of thousands of Iranians who died during that period. Khomeini and his murderous followers who are still in power to this day have the blood of many Iranians on their hands. Take care.

I wonder...

Who are these dead children? 

Whose bombs killed these children?

Who built the bombs?

Who dropped them?

Who paid for them?

I wonder if their parents were 'Demonized'

by the Zionist misinformation machine?

I wonder if they feel any shame for killing these innocent children?

Amir

Emam Khomeini was peaceful equivalant to MLK? What a big joke? What is so peacefull about executing over 20,000 communist political prisoners in a matter of 2 weeks after Iran/Iraq war? What about all the rapes, executions,tortures,stonings done in the Republic of Islam prisons? Was MLK like Emam Khomeini? So was Hitler comparable to MLK and Khomeini then? What a big stupi joke. MLK was the real peacfull man.

Emam Khomeini was just like MLK

Martin Luther King would support the IRI if he were alive today, because Emam Khomeini and the current Supreme Leader-for-Life Ayat. Khamenei both stand for non-violence, tolerance, peace, freedom, enlightenment, and respect for human rights. The IRI is a model to all the world, far more free, advanced, and humane than the Great Satan and the Little Satans. The Great Satan is controlled by the AIPAC-Zionist-Mossad-Joooo cabal, but the IRI is led by the Twelfth Emam's earthly representative under the rule of Eslam-e Nab-e Mohammadi. In a few short years, AmeriKKKa will collapse and the IRI will put its first man on the moon. Salavat befresid.

MLK Day

I went to the MLK Day parade and event in San Francisco today. Alongside me were Jewish American peace activists advocating no more US military aid to Israel and Middle East peace. 

"I have condemned any organizer of war, regardless of his
rank or nationality" – Martin Luther King, Jr.

simorgh5555

It is very simple. MLK stood for justice. He was anti prejudice/racists, He was nonviolent. He respected human life and .......    Zionists/Israel has been just the opposite.  Did you watch the link I attached?  Is Dr, Hajo Meyer mistaking and not you?  

Ohhh the comic

relief...

Looks like SP is banned AGAIN and you all are just fighting tooth and nail. Lolz

Do you think the IRI will go down without a fight ?

I don't, and neither does Fred. If you've got the flying carpet,and pixie dust for a peaceful revolution, it's time to whip it out.

Martin Luter King did not advocate the killing of children

And Martin Luter King did not write a letter in defence of Zionism. It's a fake like everything else that the Zionist have invented in defence of Israel's criminal behavior in the Middle East. Who says so? Here is the proof: (Fadi Kiblawi & Will Youmans) 

"Antiracism writer Tim Wise checked the citation, which claimed that it originated from a "Letter to an Anti-Zionist Friend" in an August, 1967 edition of Saturday Review. In an article on January, 2003, essay he declared that he found no letters from Dr. King in any of the four August, 1967 editions. The authors of this essay verified Wise's discovery. The letter was commonly cited to also have been published in a book by Dr. King entitled, "This I Believe: Selections from the Writings of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr." No such book was listed in the bibliography provided by the King Center in Atlanta, nor in the catalogs of several large public and university libraries.

Soon afterwards, CAMERA, a rabidly pro-Israeli organization, published a statement declaring that the letter was "apparently" a HOAX".

Rosie:

I have a short video clip for you to watch. It's Allen Gingsberg again performing: Hum Bom! It reminds me of hatemongers and warmongers on this website who advocate bombing Iran or use atomic bomb against Iran all for the glory of Israel. 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlJWIKvapzA

PS. I don't watch Fox News unless I want to study bigots on TV. And I usually don't read or click on any links by Iran haters, be it 'Iranian hating Iranians' or the zionist groupies on this website even when they address me. They are waste of time.

Delavar

Thank you for the full text. Just to let you know there are many critics of Israel including Amos Oz, Tony Kushner, J Street and Peace Now. Nonetheless, despite their opposition to Israeli policy they are still Zionists and fully accept Israel's moral right to exist within secure borders protected by international law. 

The problem with Sargord, No Fear and Mollah is that they are anti-Zionists. They not only oppose Israeli policy (which is perfectly legitimate) but also oppose the very existence of Israel which raises questions about their attitude towards Jews. 

This is why I put the challenge to them: How do you feel about MLK's support of Zionism?  

Delavar

Thank you for the full text. Just to let you know there are many critics of Israel including Amos Oz, Tony Kushner, J Street and Peace Now. Nonetheless, despite their opposition to Israeli policy they are still Zionists and fully accept Israel's moral right to exist within secure borders protected by international law. 

The problem with Sargord, No Fear and Mollah is that they are anti-Zionists. They not only oppose Israeli policy (which is perfectly legitimate) but also oppose the very existence of Israel which raises questions about their attitude towards Jews. 

This is why I put the challenge to them: How do you feel about MLK's support of Zionism?  

Dear Simorgh

Thank you for the MLK portion on anti-Zionism=antisemitism. It is exactly as he says it. Amazing that he said it over 40 years ago.

Simorgh

I just read MLK's comments re what you just said. I had no idea regarding this. Very interesting. Here is what MLK said:

From Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."

. . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth.

"Antisemitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently antisemitic, and ever will be so.

"Why is this? You know that Zionism is nothing less than the dream and ideal of the Jewish people returning to live in their own land. The Jewish people, the Scriptures tell us, once enjoyed a flourishing Commonwealth in the Holy Land. From this they were expelled by the Roman tyrant, the same Romans who cruelly murdered Our Lord. Driven from their homeland, their nation in ashes, forced to wander the globe, the Jewish people time and again suffered the lash of whichever tyrant happened to rule over them.

"The Negro people, my friend, know what it is to suffer the torment of tyranny under rulers not of our choosing. Our brothers in Africa have begged, pleaded, requested--DEMANDED the recognition and realization of our inborn right to live in peace under our own sovereignty in our own country.

"How easy it should be, for anyone who holds dear this inalienable right of all mankind, to understand and support the right of the Jewish People to live in their ancient Land of Israel. All men of good will exult in the fulfilment of God's promise, that his People should return in joy to rebuild their plundered land.

This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less.

"And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is antisemitism.

"The antisemite rejoices at any opportunity to vent his malice. The times have made it unpopular, in the West, to proclaim openly a hatred of the Jews. This being the case, the antisemite must constantly seek new forms and forums for his poison. How he must revel in the new masquerade! He does not hate the Jews, he is just 'anti-Zionist'!

"My friend, I do not accuse you of deliberate antisemitism. I know you feel, as I do, a deep love of truth and justice and a revulsion for racism, prejudice, and discrimination. But I know you have been misled--as others have been--into thinking you can be 'anti-Zionist' and yet remain true to these heartfelt principles that you and I share.

Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--make no mistake about it."

From M.L. King Jr., "Letter to an Anti-Zionist Friend," Saturday Review_XLVII (Aug. 1967), p. 76.
Reprinted in M.L. King Jr., "This I Believe: Selections from the Writings of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."

Don't run away from it Mollah

It hurts to know that Martin Luther King was a ZIONIST. 

Shame that there isn't a single word of solidarity from MLK towards the Palestinians.

Yep, Martin Luther King sure loved Israel and apparently so does his son Martin Luther King JR.

Since Zionism is racism then MLK was a racist. Ha Ha. Let's see you argue against that! Hold on...I know...MLK came to you in a dream and told you he now hates Jews and stands up for the Pals!  

I feel sorry for the Palestinians. Who do they have to champion their cause? Khomeini. Saddam. All sorts of terrorists.

The Palestinians deserve better. If only they rejected these terrorists from the start then they would be light years ahaed! 

And happy Martin Luter King Day

Happy Martin Luter King day

to the true believers of Martin Luter King

and what he really said.

and to you too 

to pro war crowd

to pro sanction crowd.

Ufff, vildemose

I'd heard about Mona, thought it was a story, non substantiated. 

Let's hope it's over, once and for all. Not even IRI would dare do it nowadays.

Mark take a gander at

Mark take a gander at this:

Omid, a memorial in defense of human rights in Iran

//www.iranrights.org/english/memorial.php

Mark: Do you remmeber

Mark: Do you remmeber this?

According to eyewitness reports, the women, ranging in age from 17 to 57, went to their fate singing and chanting, as though they were enjoying a pleasant outing.

The 10 women who were executed In Shiraz, Iran on June 18, 1983
for teaching Bahá’í children's classes in Iran

All of the women had been interrogated and tortured in the months leading up to their execution. Some still bore visible wounds.

The youngest of the martyrs was Muna Mahmudnizhad, known as Mona, a 17-year-old schoolgirl who, because of her youth and conspicuous innocence, became a symbol of the group. In prison, she was lashed on the soles of her feet with a cable and forced to walk on bleeding feet.

Yet she never wavered in her faith, even to the point of kissing the hands of her executioner, and then the rope, before putting it around her own throat

//www.bahai.us/day-of-courage

sargord

So you, Ahmadinejad,  and the rapist Islamist regime in Iran on the other hand who support the Hezbollah rapist terrorist regime in Iran are  "true Iranians" and the rest of us Iranians are "anti Iran"? Please do not make me laugh. What an intellectual mind you have. You are brilliant. Mashaallah..... Here is the  quote from the famous  Nazi Joseph Goebbles (Hitler's propaganda director):

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”   So Mr. sargord, you see this is how your beloved terrorist rapist govt. in Iran has so far survived. There is no doubt in my mind that you are a mercenary of the same Islamist Republic regime  in Iran since you try to use the same method of "turn speak". that they have been using for over 30 dark years in Iranian history. 

COP Jan

Take it from a veteran of dealing with SP. IT IS A WASTE  OF TIME!! I have a numerous occasions tried to deal with him. It won't work. Naravad mikheh ahanin dar sang. So don't waste your time my friend.

Rosie

Sorry about that I was having problems with my connectivity. if you want to chat please use my link off either IC or Facebook.

Yeah Mark, what about the atrocities

committed by the so called Iranian regime against the Iranian people for the past 31+ years? How have you defended the right of the Iranian people to have a representative government? Oh, the polls....Right, really accurate and really representative, you claim.

The truth is that you have not. All you do is beat the drum for this anti nationalist regime and call those who do not agree with you and the regime you represent on the internet anti-iran, when in fact you are the one who is anti-Iran.

Yeah Mark, war is ugly, but your turbanned masters would love to start another war as it would cement their misrebale reign and iron grip for another 20-30 years. They are itching for war. No one wants war except you people. Your very existence and the continuation of the looting depends on it.

When was the last time you travelled to Iran with you ID card? Were you there in June of 2009? Will your photo appear as one of the snipers on the rooftops? How many other times have you travleed to Iran in support of your beloved theocracy? Are you not a mecenary as you claim?

So, what's your story man? Why would a guy who claims no ties with Iran be a die-hard supporter of this anti-Iranian regime? What is your story man?

You are a phony.

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IRAN FIRST

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VPK, (changed)

VPK, I believe you just changed your post. Please correct me if I'm wrong. In any case I'm not writing more about this. I don't want to distract from my post about Sargord and the so-called Zionist bias. I'll write one more post here next week, as I said I would.

SP

My words don't demonize IRAN, rather it is the rightful demonization of the islamo-nazi terrorist regime.

We love IRAN here - but unlike you we don't love the islamist terrorists who have sold Iran down the river.  By supporting the islamo-nazi terrorist regime IT IS YOU who is supporting the demonization of IRAN. 

Rosie

This post has nothing to do with SP; rather with you. I sort of missed out on what happened to your old account. One person implied that you got removed. They asked why I did not stand up for you. I am sorry I would have if I have been aware of it. I do not know what happened. To remedy this I request that you write a blog explaining what happened. I want to get your side of the story.

If you prefer you could just email me directly from my link. Or go on Facebook and find "Veiled Prophet". I would gladly "friend" you. I am honestly curious about the whole thing; want to know.

Thanks,

VPK

SP, I'm glad you realized there's no Zionist bias on this site

from Jahanshah and that the moderation problem is 'only' due to serious flaws in the system (or rather lack thereof. For anyone who wants to help create one, there's j.'s Looking Back, Looking Ahead thread). My discussion with Spink about this is at the beginning of this thread and it's long, one of my posts is very long, but it's there for all to read, or at least scan. I had it because it's one of the most important things for people to understand for this to be a better site. Actually I had proved to Sargord that there's no bias last October on his Zionist ads thread with other evidence, but Sargord, you didn't want to believe me. And anyone who thinks I got one iota of pleasure from these discussions until Sargord finally did hear me is dead wrong.

As you know, Sargord, I told you on VPK's current deletions thread that I wasn't going to be posting for a good while. The only reason I lingered was because you put up your blog about being deleted from Fred's threads shortly after. So I'm going to drop out now, but will come back in about a week and read and make one final comment about a couple of other very important things. That'll be my last post onsite for a good while.

I'll just say for now is that Sargord's previous inability to hear my solid evidence is typical. And I don't mean typical of him, I mean of the site. And not just evidence but other people's expressions of ideas and feelings. There is no regular commenter here who's anti-Iran and doesn't love their country, even the people who advocate for military action or favor Ahmadinejad over the Greens. They just believe there's no other way out. There are no IRI supporters. There are just IRI tolerators, because they see no other solution but reform to avoid massive misery for the Iranian people, There are no warmongers. just desperate people who, convinced Reform is impossible, see no other way out. There's no one here who's not Iranian (or half Iranian at least lol).

The biggest problem on this site, maybe even the only one, is that you only hear what you want to hear according to the ideas you've evolved through the bitter experiences your country has gone through. But ideas aren't ideas when they're deaf. They're dogmas. And all they do is cause wars here which is the most dangerous thing you can do if you want peace and growth in Iran. Because creating a peaceful model democracy here is one of the best things you can do. You're bad listeners, and that makes you bad communicators. But every human can improve, can grow.

The question is do you want to?

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits

Well Agha

This post is about confronting war advocacy against Iran.

Demonization of Iran threads by the anti-Iran crowd are a dime a dozen on this site. I suggest you apply those comments there, where they're more relevant. 

To reach a common interest

To reach a common interest and confront the greed and dirty politics, there must be laws that protect everyone and every nation without prejudice and hold anyone or country liable for their violations.  All nations should be equal in the eyes of law, something that doesn't exist today.  As long as some countries and individuals are influencing and benefiting from violations and double standards and getting away without punishments, violence will increase.  But a criminal state shouldn't be the Judge, Jury or executioner.

I do

not care if my opinion does not matter to SP. I have all my papers in order as if that mattered: it does not. Being Iranian is not imparted by an ID. I am not the one bragging about being a "Native" American. 

I have always said I am Iranian. The last thing I need is SP approval. There are far more important people that care about my opinion.