Sargord Pirouz II

Rosie

I don't know what is with you in trying to chase me around and provoke me.  Perhaps you just want attention that I don't give you.

Anyway, this is a second time that you have cited that blog of mine and have misrepresented facts about it.  The last time you admitted you were wrong, and hopefully this time you will do the same.

The blog is there for everyone to read.  I was not trying to "coordinate" anything.  I was talking about how people were lying about not being allowed to post their opinions about the event when their blogs were on the "most viewed" list.  Here's an excerpt from that blog:

 First, no one is silencing you.  Your blogs about Gaza, and the ones crying about not being able to write enough about Gaza (which by the way is not true) were all on the “most discussed” list.  All the bolgs were featured and you had more than ample opportunity to beat your chests for Gaza until kingdom come.  You can write more blogs if you want to. 

Yeah...I was trying to "coordinate an effort to sabotage them." LOL!!!!  

Again Rosie, you're trying to misrepresent facts just to provoke me.

I will not exchange comments with you again (as usual).  So, good luck! 

PS- In general, I love it how I get attacked by the IRI mob every time I leave a comment on this site.  Just look at this thread.  I left a one line comment and I have had a dozen long winded comments directed to it.  I just LOVE it.  It shows that I get under their skin.  That's just GREAT!!!

Everyone should have the

Everyone should have the rights to comment and not be blocked.  I don't think any of these pro Israel commentators were blocked or deleted.  They left because they couldn't take the heat.  They cry when they are answered back. That is why Farhad kashani, Jamshid, prophet Amil, Zion and others have left and some just changed their usernames to Joojeh Simorgh, mahmoudg. 

I have been deleted and blocked so many times myself, perhaps more than anyone else and I hardly ever use profanity and I am against any military attacks and sanctions.  It is very shameful for an Iranian to consider bombing an option to change the system while that will destroy the country and do as these images show and worse or using sanctions and starvation to force people to rise at gunpoint.  

We all get angry when we see injustices by IRI toward Iranians, but we cannot fix the problems by creating disaster.                 

Of course, we worry about Iran's future and those who promote bombing and sanctions worry about Israel's !!!

OnlyIran, you say you're not the site's police (JS)

 and you only come here from time to time and post. But you wrote a blog giving instructions for a coordinated offensive to sabotage all threads on Gaza right after the attack on the ship. And you wrote it in the name of 'we'. Now, I don't know about JS, how anyone could be so dense as to lie about how long they've been here when it's so easy to find out, so I'm hoping he'll have some explanation. But getting back to you, OI, if you're not the site's police, then what did you think you were when you wrote this blog? Its general?

//iranian.com/main/blog/onlyiran/its-not-about-silencing-you-its-about-hypocrisy-and-its-about-priorities

I want to clarify right now that I find some of the things Sargord says repulsive. So don't anyone try to lump me into any ideological category. I won't fit. Any more than those faces so many of you try to fit on the moon. Which are usually nothing but your own.  'Imam Moi.' It's very disturbing to watch. It's the reason your country turned into what it did.

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

Great Post: No War on Iran

Title says it all.

Good luck with your search "J.S"

may the force be with you!

 I only have one user name. It is exactly the same user name as 3 years ago. 

Really?!! Is that why your account shows that you have been registered for only 4 weeks?  Is that some kind of a special math that we don;t understand where 4 weeks equals 3 years? :-))) 

As I said in plain English, I am not this site's police.  I visit once a while and read a couple of blogs.  If I find something objectionable in those blogs (which are probably 1% of what is posted on this site) I flag them.  Now, can you understand what that equate to, or are you going to keep attacking me with your hyperbolic nonsense?  

Anyway, I am done exchanging comments with you.  Obviously, you don't have a life and are here to stalk me.  

Again, good luck with your search, and let us know how that works out! 

PS-don't forget to check out all of Fred's blogs with Sargord's "Type A" comments.  See how many of those I have flagged, and make sure to include those in your report...you know, just so that you don't come across as a hypocrite. :-)) 

Mola,

you're wrong about the last part. Please do as I asked OnlyIran to and read my posts, it n your case just scanning the one very long one, which has details which aren't crucial to the point you just made. thx, r.

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

Simorgh wrote a thought-provoking reply to this blog

but for some unfathomable reason it seems he got confused and forgot to put it where it belongs. I'm linking it here. As you can see it begins with a challenge to prove that Fred explicitly advocates war so obviously it was meant to be here.

//iranian.com/main/blog/simorgh5555/sargords-support-ir-terror-and-its-consequences

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

Onlyiran or should you have been OnlyIran

I am not this site's police.  But, when I visit the site once a while, and I see comments containing personal attacks, I flag them, regardless of who they are...as I have flagged many of your abusive comments which contained profanity and attacks against other users, both under you "J.S." username and your various other user ID's... (wink, wink).  :-))

I only have one user name. It is exactly the same user name as 3 years ago. Of course, you are not attacking me personally and have proof that I have other usernames, right? (wink, wink, wink, wink) 

Of course, with all the flagging you have done the antisemi, antireligious, personal attacks by Fred have been removed. So when I search the blogs there should be none. You have after all, as stated, flagged and protested.

I will now go search. Of course you are not a hypocrite, right? So I will find impartial protests to all antisemi, antireligious, nazi name calling by Fred, which of course you have protested! Right?

Sargord,

Such a disturbing pictures to look at.

What a disturbing pictures to wake up to.

But that's the reality of war in any nation. The pictures that you've posted is showing the victims of Israel's murdering of innocent children. Israel's is the sole terrorist nation in the Middle East and it's proved by her actions. But they are the 'Respectable' terrorists.

Americans did not gain anything from these massacres by the Zionist regime on the contrary it has created more enemies for Americans such as you and others.

The above pictures are exactly what the necons and supporters of Israel are prescribing for Iranian nation. They have organized and have become very vocal on this web site too. They advocate for assassination, bombardment, attacks, and even using atomic bomb against Iranian nation. Those comments don't get deleted and their accounts don't get blocked. 

You may ask why? They give ads to IC and hence they have created a financial incentives for this website to give them plenty of room to maneuver here.

No reason to get too emotional. It is what it is.

"J.S."

I am not this site's police.  But, when I visit the site once a while, and I see comments containing personal attacks, I flag them, regardless of who they are...as I have flagged many of your abusive comments which contained profanity and attacks against other users, both under you "J.S." username and your various other user ID's... (wink, wink).  :-)) 

PS - I never flagged Sargord's "Type A, Type B", or his other nonsense on Fred's blogs either.  I just found them funny!! 

Onlyiran

Nice to see you object to personal attacks, although I don´t see a personal nature to this blog. It is great to see such impartial people!

So you, of course, objected to anti-eyeranian comments by Fred right? So you, of course, have stood up for the last 2 years and asked to have Fred banned because of Nazi refs made by Fred toward Moos, right? So every time rabid/barbaric/rapist comments or blogs are posted you have stood up and asked for proof, in which if proof was not provided you have then pointed out and said it was a personal attack, right?

You are not a hypocrite are you? 

Sargord, Dangel wrote,

Btw, sargord, if you are against the murder of innocent lives, then do try to be consistant and stand against it when IRI regime does it too. Think about it.

You should listen to her.

And about the Martian part, Dangel, there's nothing funny about it. Think about it.

ps Dangel, now you calling someone a drama queen, you do have to admit that that's funny. I know, I know, I'm 'not your type".

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

OI, do you know how many highly intelligent, well-respected

people here who are vehemently anti-IRI think that Fred's advocating miitary action, and have told him so over and over again, and he has never refuted it? He's too busy calling anyone who doesn't completely agree with him 'Clueless Haji' in his subject lines, no matter how nice they are, even people who've never posted before. Not saying I do, I don't make those kinds of judgments if I don't have hard evidence. But do you know how many people do? He isn't trying to defame Fred. He just cares about the baby with the head blown off. It really is that simple. I know how upsetting his comments can be. I'm the one who wrote a blog about it when Alireza died. I'm the one on his Shahid thread that argued tirelessly that his a/c deletion was justified.  You don't read my posts because they're too long, OnlyIran? Well I just finally managed to get Sargord to understand here that Jahanshah's not politically biased and he's not a Zionist so obviously I knew what I was doing when I wrote these posts. So I would ask you once, just this once, to read everything I wrote. The two very long ones can be scanned, the details aren't all that relevant to the point I'm making to you. But his responses to them are. So please read. Thank you.

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

No VPK - this blog does not have a valid point -it's a personal

attack.  SP is trying to link "Fred" to the atrocities depicted in those photos.  How is that not a personal attack?  Do you, or does SP, have any evidence that Fred is an Israeli and / or he is responsible for these atrocities?  How would you like it if I post a bunch of photos about executions in Iran and put your username in the title of the blog?

If he wants to talk about atrocities committed anywhere in the world, it is fine with me, but to single out a particular user and connect him / her to those acts is a personal attack. 

OnlyIran

This blog does not attack a particular user. Attack would be something like calling a particular users a swear word. For example someone called me an idiot and his post stayed up for a long time. Someone eventually flagged it {not me}.

I do not support SP at all. But his blogs does have a point.

I thought that JJ said once that he will no longer allow

personal attacks blogs directed at a certain user.  Why is this blog still up?

drama queen

Nice try Sargord, but you're overdoing it now. Repetitive personal attacks on an impersonal, anonymous internet entity is too Martian. What's everyone got against my Sunday lunch today? Why make me vomit , trying to pull heartstrings for political extremist purposes? 

Btw, sargord, if you are against the murder of innocent lives, then do try to be consistant and stand against it when IRI regime does it too. Think about it.

In the meantime, here's a singsong. I'm outtahere!

"Stuff happens and some, one way or another, get stuffed"

No Fear

I don't want to come to Iran "business" class. I want to come back first class or better on my own private jet. Get it right!

And you do not take yourself seriously when

you cry about your country and plead for the day of its liberation and recommend military action and revenge on all who have ever harmed her, Simorgh?

HOW MANY IRANIANS DOES IT TAKE TO FIT A FACE ON THE MOON? NONE. IT NEVER QUITE FITS.

Sargord

You are becoming far too emotional these days. Take some of your own advice and 'don't take yourself too seriously'. 

Good.

I'm glad you understand it's not an issue of politics or corruption. The problems in moderation are issues of competency. And we can all improve. That means Jahanshah, and me, and you too. Much obliged to be of service.

Robin

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

Rosei

Thanks, I appreciate it.

So people have been blocked here in the past for conflicting reasons. That doesn't surprise me given what's taken place here recently. It's akin to editorial incompetence, that's all.

If being blocked for taking a stand against advocacy of war and economic hardship against the people of Iran is the price to be paid, so be it. 

Sargord, I saw what you just did,

and you'may very well get kicked out for good if you don't undo it right now, and I would unfortunately have to support that. And also you should be focusing on my conversation with you because I'm putting in all this work and effort, instead of searching for new avatars for new accounts.

Sargord, did you ever have the strange feeling that you were like...an anthropologist from Mars?

Here, some recommended reading for you.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin

You say you don't learn things from this forum? Well, now's your big chance.

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

Here. Meet Farhad Kashani.

His account was deleted a little less than a year ago with an archive of minimum five news items per day for about a year and a half. Here's a blog of his.

Here. This is the blog I wrote to Zion after the Gaza ceasefire. Read it carefully. It's where Kashani got his title from.

Here. Meet Zion. This was her ceasefire blog, the one I replied to. Now you tell me what the majority site opinon was at that time, when I asked her, why HERE?  

oh and ps Sargord, you do know your blogs from your first a/c are all onsite, right? You do understand I just retrieved three blogs from three deleted accounts, right? Just site search Sargord Pirouz blog, and see what comes up. 

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

Sargord,

Starting with a little background about the last couple of days:

first of all, I never defended your a/c being deleted per se. I just said you provoked j. in various ways, which were: constantly LIBELING him as being in the pocket of the Zionists, jeering at people on the mourning threads, at times sadistically, and then embedding another malicious video right after he deleted the first. I am totally against people's accounts being deleted to begin with, much less without explanation, but in this particular case, on a human level, I feel you pushed him beyond endurance. It was a gut reaction, I'm sure. If I were in his position, and someone did that to me, I probably would've done the same thing. I know it because I'm a very fair teacher, but when I feel a student has intentionally spat in my face, I just react in knee-jerk ways. Sargord, I know this man very well. He's against almost all policies and actions of the Israeli regime. And he doesn't work for anyone except himself. I know the best of him and the worst of him. What you say about him is not true.

I told you this morning that all you saw was that your thread got closed. You didn't see that it got closed and it got featured. And that it got closed right with my festive video on top celebrating what appeared to be a huge step in making a rapprochement here.

However, there's another thing I didn't tell you this morning. That right before that thread got closed, you went on a different one and called someone an arse, and that post got deleted. Right after 'Admin' had told you that cursing was one of the reasons for your a/c deletion. I understand that you probably didn't realize that that could be a cuss word. But I also told you this morning that you have difficulty understanding some basic social cues and affective subtext of communication. Using that word at that particular time was very ill-advised, and considering the circumstances, I'd say it was big-hearted of j. to feature you.

I feel he was wrong in deleting your Fred posts. I saw them. I found them funny. I always do. And I couldn't give a damn what anyone says to Fred, not because of his political views, which I dislike intensely, but because he's mean and rude and arrogant. But I can also understand why 'admin' did it to prove a point after the 'arse' incident. I just think it was stupid for 'admin' to do it because it confirms your deluded belief that he's basically a Zionist agent a thousandfold in your deluded mind. It was stupid of him to do but it was stupider of you to write those posts right after your Shahid thread. 

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Okay, fine, Sargord. I know that's a lot to swallow, so I'm going to ask you to do the same thing I did before your Shahid thread got closed. I'm asking you to answer me one question and one question only:

If Jahanshah is pro-Zionist, why did he twice delete the account of a woman who called herself Zion, who was one of the most profilic bloggers on the site for over a year and was an absolutely brilliant writer, and if anybody had the talent to be trained as a good propagandist, it was she?

Why? Explain.

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Don't tell me anyting about anything else right now please. Just answer the one question. After we go over that question, then we can proceed to the specifics of that Zionist ad you blogged about, a blog which is emblazoned on my mind because you and Jahanshah both shafted me royally that night. And if I weren't trying to avoid cursing, I'd tell you just where you both stuck it to me and how hard.

So why? Why isn't Zion here?

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

Silly Sargord...

So children die in war...at the hands of one of the advertisers here on IC a few months ago.

Look at how that pro-Zionist, pro-war against Iran money was spent...

We got all those fine pics of the site owner gallivanting across Europe. Weren't they cool!

So children die as a result of that pro-war advocacy and advertising...

Silly Sargord. You need to be blocked and censored. How dare you bring up the unpleasant and inconvenient truths behind the "Fred" propagandist effort-- you American you. 

More.

Just for the record I wanted to give a partial list of people on the center/right whose accounts have been deleted here who you may have forgotten.

Boomshakalaka, Fooladi, Pastor Bill Rennick Irani Irani, Farhad Kashani, Zion, Samsam...

I don't think you were here when Kashani was. He was one of the most rightwing members. And so he was pro-Israel, as was Zion, obviously. She was an extremely intelligent but very aggressive Israeli woman. Sam is nothing like these guys, and he was deleted a couple of times two years ago.

The circumstances of the deletion of the last two may interest you. During the invasion of Gaza in December '08-January '09, the large majority of bloggers were very anti-Israel. Which wasn't surprising, because so was Jahanshah. The pro-Israel minority felt they were being unfairly moderated. I am anti-Isrrael but I put up a blog questioning the neutrality of the moderation practices. Sam was neutral on the Gaza issue, but he felt his Zionist friends were being treated unfairly. and he too when he defended them. And on my thread there was a whole hullabaloo and Zion and Sam and someone else, can't remember, got their a/c's deleted.

Sam was deleted more than once but he came right back like you, SPink. That was a long time ago. He doesn't have any problem with the moderation anymore. Zion was deleted twice and never came back.

The other Sam, Shazde Azdola Mirza, deleted the entire content of his account last spring in protest of his perception that he was being targeted for his anti-IRI views. Louie Louie agreed with him that there was an organized cabal of IRI apologists, probably working with Jahanshah, definitely favored by him, and possibly paid by him. Louie was recently deleted. And Jamshid was always alleging unfair deletions due to bias in moderation in favor of this organized cabal.

Jamshid was one of the original registered users here, and I believe a few months ago he left and he hasn't come back.

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

But you guys do realize

that it's a minority here that are in favor of sanctions, and a miniscule minority in favor of surgical strikes. And that the overwhelming majority of people here are appalled by the very mention of strikes. It's just that the ones in favor bark the loudest.

You realize this, yes?

Thanks for posting this, Sargord. I'm proud of you.

How many Iranians does it take to fit a face on the moon? None. It never quite fits.

The sad part is ...

They want others to remove the regime for them so they can come back to Iran traveling in business class and first class flights and teach us about democracy, the yankee type.

I guess killing innocent Iranians for them falls under " collateral damages". But who cares? as long as they can wear bikinis , drink beer and listen to britney spears.