Well It's Over Folks, and Thank You

Well I am going to bring up Nazy, Jamshid. Because it's the

only way to broach the issue squarely. Did you SEE the post Zion wrote on her blog? It is FILLED to bursting with the most paranoid vicious accusatios imaginable. It's sick. It's insane. And so Zion's so-called ceasefire thread carries that pathology with it. And they are two separate but related issues, Zion's blog and mine. Not exactly related but YOU relate them so so will I.

But first we have to find some kind of commonality in analyzing Zion's ceasefire blog. We are dealing with a situation in which there are real human beings with real lives and limbs at stake, real children being burned with white phosphorus. It is not IRONIC to write a title as though the ceasefire were the end of a magic show, or Bugs Bunny--th th th th th that's all folks...

It is not IRONIC to accuse a very large percentage of the readership, majority no doubt, who were very concerned about these Gazans, including people doing REAL huanitarian work, accusing them of being disappointed that there was a ceasefire. That is not ironic, it is vitriolic and slanderous as well as degrading of the human lives involved. In other words, blatantly sadistic. Sadism is amental illness.

Getting back to Nazy, Zion's giving full vent to the extent of these accusations on NAZY of all people shows the pathology beyond a shadow of a doubt. The paranoia, the delusional thinking, the sadissm, the Schadenfreude. It is sick annd it is mean.

It doesn't MATTER if there are five or fifteenor a hudred fifty people who are the ones you say, and the same five to hudred fifty who are the Nazy's. Percentage does't matter. By ANNOUNCING the ceasefire to all the "folks" she implicitly involves ANYONE who expressed grave concer over those people. AND PROVED IT BY ATTACKING NAZY ON HEr THREAD.

So any IRONY in Zion's tone was linked to vparaoia, iciousness, sadism and disregard for human life

Now if you can see that, I'll go on and compare it to and analyze my own blog. But if you can't see it, then you're seeing white and I'm seeing black, so there's just no point in my talking about gray or blue or green..

so let me know if you see it or not and then..

we'll see..

you sound like you're on vacation. Are you? Hope you're having a wonderful time.

r.

Zion: is Schindler's List your preferred war porn?

My "slightly" offensive comment was deleted, but my question remains: do you prefer the Schindler's List as your war porn?

If so, rent it and enjoy this weekend, you smug racist excuse for a woman.

Rosie

For someone who justifies her own mockeries (e.g., "Happy" 30th IRI aniversary") with words such as "I was just trying to be ironic", then don't you think you are being a bit one sided about Zion's use of irony, oops, mockery?

I am sure Zion was doing the same in here, being ironic to make a point.

And yes, there were MANY who were licking their chops for more casulties during the Ghaza events, and were even disappointed that "only" 1400 died.

You know whom I am talking about. The same type of individudals who in the Jaleh square in Tehran in 1978, mixed with the demonstrators and then opened fire on the soldiers in order to entice those soldiers to open fire at the crowd, which they did.

Then they "proudly" advertised the martyrdom of those who died, a-la-Hamas. They were "disappointed" that only 97 people died. So they exagerated the number of deads to 10,000. Being as stupid as we were, we fell for the lies. It worked. It was one of the turning points in the fall of the Shah.

Did those who opened fire at the soldiers, or those who ordered them to do so, even cared for people's "lives"? Or were they more concerned for their grander goals? You know the answer.

I am certain that they were similar anti-Israelsi individuals who were licking their chops for more deaths and more casualties. It could have been used for propaganda for decades to come.

And please don't bring up Natalia, Kaviani or Samasam into this discussion. You'll insult people's inteligence. We both know they are good individuals that cannot be compared with the type of people I just described.

You haven't been there and havent't done that. But you sometimes write as though you had.

jamshid, not logged in

Nonviolence..........

"Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time; the need for mankind to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Mankind must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation.  The foundation of such a method is love."

              -Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Zion

You should know not to play the victim card with me. But you are welcome ;-)

capt_ayhab [-YT]

ayhab

Given that in the other thread you actually thanked a degenerate anti-semite for providing you the link to a pure Nazi-like conspiracy website is enough for me to take all that you say here as a huge compliment. So thank you.

South Africa was also celebrating their "success"

Israel has celebrated many times in the past 60 years and each time they have had rockets or something killing their people again and again. The violence has ended this time? I think you are EXTREMELY optimistic. But I personally do not expect anything else from you. Your extreme sense of insecurity is pathetic. I feel sorry for you miserable nothing-ness.

"Israel (apartheid inhuman system) has no future." - Persident Ahmadinejad.

Zion

For days, I have refrained from commenting on your blogs, as I have refrained form commenting on your comments. For one reason only. 

As I have said before, I do respect your, and everybody else political belief, as i respect everyone's nationalism. But your lack of any human compassion is beyond me.

As you so diligently, denounce anyone's alliance with IR, which no doubt is a brutal regime, and label them antisemitic and anti Jew, you are very adamant in trying to justify atrocities and condone war crimes that Israeli army have been committing in past 60 years. I would have thought, honor of being a HUMAN BEING and having COMPASSION for the suffering of others would be higher than  any political alliance.

Zion,  I am saddened to say, that your are truly disgrace to your faith, and all the mankind for that fact. How could any HUMAN BEING see this much blood of innocent women, children and civilians to be shed, all for few years of political victory[office] of a genocidal manic[Ehud Olmert] and his gang of genocidal criminals, and not get moved?

How can any DECENT human being host so much resentment and hatred toward a group of innocent women and children?

How can anyone, be so cold blooded to APPROVE this much killing, and call it self defense?

Zion, is it your faith that makes you so callus, that not only you do not care about 1,200 dead, of which 40% are CHILDREN, 4,000 injured, and 50,000 homeless, but you so strongly approve it? I doubt it, There is no DECENT faith that condones this much atrocity and coldblooded criminal act. I could be wrong though.

History of today will be written 100's of years from now. And unlike before, this history will not be written solely by the victor.

If there any justice in the world, Israel will be answering for all the crimes she has committed, as Nazi's did, and as IR will be. 

Respectfully

capt_ayhab [-YT]

well, zion is right about one thing

the true nature of iranians has come out. all this talk about not being anti-semitic is really just BS. with all that the arabs have done to iran, it's far easier to blame israel for this war.

anon8. what the heck? according to the anti-US/Israel crowd, israel was the master and the US the puppet. can't have it both ways my friend.

but yes, zion has been israel's own worst enemy. rational users like mazloom or fred are far more reasonable and valid.

I care about both.........

"Which babies? Israeli babies sitting in a bus, or Palestinian babies in their homes, both blown to pieces. Please emphasize which."

No one wins......only further damage is done.

The children that survive are harmed within....some are harmed beyond repair due to what they have seen or heard.

No child should have to go through this.

FOR WHAT?! IT NEVER ENDS!

Eventually these children grow up and the cycle repeats itself.

So, yes the children on both sides matter. They are HUMANS first.

When have we lost sight of our HUMANITY?!

 When did others become less than us?!

 At what point do we say enough?! I'm tired of hating!

 I'm tired of all the destruction around me!

A lot of parties are responssible for this conflict, Jamshid..

the Israelis, Hamas, the PLO, the US, EUROPE EUROPE EUROPE AND EUROPE at its inception, other Arab countries, and god knows who else.

But it ISN'T the point Jamshid.

The pointis the blog itself.

You really can't see any mockery in it? In a blog announcing a CEASEFIRE that starts off "Sorry to disappoint you.." as though the people who were concerned about the massacred Gazan children WANTED Israel to continue shelling just to curry favor for their "cause"--which would be...the expenditure of Muslim lives to expand political Islam, presumably. Concerned people like...Natalia and Nazy Kaviani and SAMSAM????!!!!!

You do not find those opening words taunting and offensive ?

 Please re-read them and see if you understand what I mean.  If you do please continue reading in light of that.

If you don't, let me know and I'll try again.

Th

Rosie

"Surely you can sympathize

"Surely you can sympathize with a baby blown to bits..."

Which babies? Israeli babies sitting in a bus, or Palestinian babies in their homes, both blown to pieces. Please emphasize which.

If it doesn't make any difference, then what's your point? If it does make a difference, then explain why. If you don't have an answer, then why bring it up?

To gain sympathy for one side?

It's the Saudi's fault you dummies! If they had spent a fraction of their oil income for the currently real Palestine, aka, Jordany which was/is majority palestinian anyway, then ALL Palestinians could live prosperously and happily ever after in there a-la-Emirates and never even look back.

Only if Israel could control just a tiny fraction of Saudis oil... But wait, they don't! Arab Amirs and Kings do.

Which brings us to this: How dumb and selfish could Arab rulers be? Sort of like how dumb my father's generation was in 1978.

I'll let you contemplate on this.

P.S. I Reread the text and couldn't find any mockery in there. I only found several points I would agree or disagreed with.

jamshid, not logged in

Dear Jamshid

Thank you my friend. Your contributions were indeed missed here. Good to have you back.

I am truly shocked........

I never thought he would say such things.........

We are talking about innocent children on both sides that have died.....starving.......orphaned.

I wish I had not come to this thread. :'o(

Jamshid, this is not about sympathizing with the Palestinian

people or their cause per se.

This is about announcing a ceasefire in mocking tones.

A ceasefire must always be announced in a solemn and respectful tone.

Surely you can sympathize with a baby blown to bits enough to realize that.

That's the whole point.

It doesn't go against your values to take a step back and see that this ceasefire post is just plain WRONG.

YOu can take sides in a war but you can't take sides in a peace.

Peace is always good.

Nobody should be made to feel RIDICULOUS when announcing a ceasefire. Ridicule is inappropriate.

This blog is thoroughly inappropriate.

And if you read the post near the top of Gaffer's blog to DK where Zion contemptuously talks about the "tribal primitivism" of Iranians, you might even start to see things my way and think it is quite possibly...obscene.

Volunteers to kill Iranians

I can't symapthize for the cause of a people who volunteered to kill Iranians in return for Sadam's promises of Khuzestan riches, an act of betrayal toward Iran despite being the receipient of khomeini's riches.

Does anyone remember ordinary Paletinians' joyful street celebrations with each of Saddam's initial victories and stomping over Iranian defenders' lives?

Sorry, I just can't sympathize with them. There is more about these Palestinian volunteers, and one day when I have the time, I shall write about my service memoirs in 1980-81 and expand upon it. People should know about what the IRI regime and its cronies have carefully swept under the rug.

It's too bad I was away for a while and couldn't participate in the Ghaza discussions.

Zion: You've got a lot of stomach standing firm for what you believe in. I can respec this.

Q: You are right people haven't heard half of it yet. Wait until after a time the IRI no longer exists, and I promise you'll quickly hear the other unpleasant half.

jamshid, not logged in

THIS BLOG DOES NOT SPEAK FOR MY PEOPLE1

SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR MY PEOPLE1

SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR MY PARENTS AND MY SISTER.

SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR MY TEACHERS.

SHE DOES NOT EVEN SPEAK FOR VAST MAJORITY OF ZIONIST ISRAELIS.

ITS CONTEMPTUOUS MOCKING TONE AND SCHADENFREUDE, DELIGHT IN OTHER PEOPLE'S MISERY, THE PEOPLE ON THE WEBSITE WHO CARED ABOUT THE VICTIMS, ITS ARROGANCE, ITS SADISM ITS UTTER DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE, ITS CONTEMPTUOUSNESS, ITS SCORN

THIS PIECE OF MORAL FILTH, THIS PIECE OF ETHICAL PORNOGRAPHYT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR MY PEOPLE1

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR MAIMONIDES.

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR RABBI HILLEL.

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR EMMA GOLDMAN.

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR WITTGENSTEIN.

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR SPINOZA.

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR PAUL CELIN.

SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR SAUL BELLOWS.

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR RABBI MICHAEL LERNER.

SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR LENNY BRUCE.

SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR EMMA LAZARUS.

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR EINSTEN.

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR JESUS THE GALILEAN.

IT DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME!

SHE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR MY PEOPLE!

I DENOUNCE HER.

SHE SPEAKS FOR HER OWN MORAL DEGENRACY, HERS AND HERS ALONE.

War XXX rated stories....

Assessing the damage in Gaza :

After three weeks of intense fighting in Gaza, Palestinians have begun assessing the damage to homes and buildings.

The BBC's Paul Wood and cameraman Andrew Herbert are among the first journalists to gain independent access to Gaza from Israel.

 //news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7836527.stm

Ebi aka Haaji

I wouldn't go down that lane if I were you Ebi.

When it comes to this, your buddies and brothers are just on a different level... actually on a different planet altogether.
Just a few examples of your side's lovely genocidal wet dreams:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=GicSkxHGPs4
//picasaweb.google.com/Th3M0shP1t/Melbournist...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnDQS80hrU4
//europenews.dk/en/node/18244
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8bQA6FYW0

Sorry but I'm afraid they'll get their wet dreams to their graves. My condolences.

WAR XXX rated supporters...

Pro-Israel Rally Attended by Big-Time NY Dems Descends into Calls for 'Wiping Out' Palestinians

By Max Blumenthal,

On January 11, an estimated 10,000 people rallied in front of the Israeli consulate in midtown New York in support of Israel’s attack on the Gaza Strip. The rally, which was organized by UJA-Federation of New York and the Jewish Community Relations Council of New York in cooperation with the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, featured speeches by New York’s most senior lawmakers. While the crowd was riled to righteous anger by speeches about Hamas evildoers, the event was a festive affair that began and ended with singing and joyous dancing.

Sen. Chuck Schumer highlighted Israel’s supposed humanitarian methods of warfare by pointing to its text messaging of certain Gaza Strip residents urging them to vacate their homes before Israeli forces bombed them. “What other country would do that?” Schumer shouted from the podium. Gov. David Paterson appeared on stage wearing one of the red hats distributed to demonstrators as symbols of the red alerts some residents of Israel endure when Palestinian groups fire rockets their way. Paterson cited the many Qasam rockets that have fallen on Israel as a justification for the country’s operations in Gaza, a military assault that has resulted in over 800 casualties and thousands of injuries.

Then Paterson highlighted the anti-Semitism that has followed in the wake of Israel’s attack on Gaza, highlighting the beating of a teen-age girl in France.  “This kind of anger and hatred spreads like a disease,” Paterson said, “and one thing I've always pointed out is there's no place for hate in the Empire State.”

But hatred was plentiful at the rally Paterson addressed. Right in front of the stage, a man held a banner reading, “Islam Is A Death Cult.” Rally attendees described the people of Gaza to me as a “cancer,” called for Israel to “wipe them all out,” insisting, “They are forcing us to kill their children in order to defend our own children.” A young woman told me, “Those who die are suffering God’s wrath.” “They are not distinguishing between civilians and military, so why should we?” said a member of the group of messianic Orthodox Jewish Chabad-Lubavitch group that flocked to the rally.

No one I spoke to could seem to find any circumstance in which they would begin to question Israel’s war. No number of civilian deaths, no displays of extreme suffering -- nothing could deter their enthusiasm for attacking one of the most vulnerable populations in the world with the world’s most advanced weaponry. There are no limits, no matter what Israel does, no matter how it does it.

The rally made me think of a passage in “The Holocaust Is Over, We Must Rise From Its Ashes,” a powerful new book by former Israeli Knesset speaker and Jewish National Fund chairman Avraham Burg:

“If you are a bad person, a whining enemy or a strong-arm occupier, you are not my brother, even if you are circumcised, observe the Sabbath, and do mitzvahs. If your scarf covers every hair on your head for modest, you give alms and do charity, but what is under your scarf is dedicated to the sanctity of Jewish land, taking precedence over the sanctity of human life, whosever life that is, then your are not my sister. You might be my enemy. A good Arab or a righteous gentile will be a brother or sister to me. A wicked man, even of Jewish descent, is my adversary, and I would stand on the other side of the barricade and fight him to the end.”

//www.alternet.org/story/119372

Ebi aka Haaji

Dear Zionist Detector, / der, das, die

Please see my post on my last blog ionais.

It addresses you but I took out the last line thanking you thinking you wouldn't cojme back and see it because all you'd done was post a petition. Now that you are here, thank you so much and please see the post.

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Yes it is das Reich. Neutral.

Ms. Zion

Since you love "War Porn" have you ever thought about playing in one? I Can use you in the "Gaza Mad Orgy Part II" casting starts today or did it yesterday!? You'll be great for Nazi fetish scene.

Noiz,

Make shalap-shooloop as much as you want, Doesn't your avatar mean something else :)

The reality is that, Israel is a war machine which killed innocents for nothing and it will get back a bloody reaction from deprived poors who lost everything they had.

I'm really sorry for Israeli and Arab innocents who pay for the causalities. 

But it seems you not only insist to deny the reality but also take pleasure of this situation!

Happy Cease fire, then!

War XXX rated stories....

'I waited for my fate,' says Gaza father :

//www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-gaza-sons18-2009jan18,0,2355988.story

Israel kept out aid for Gaza :

 //www.smh.com.au/news/world/israel-kept-out-aid/2009/01/18/1232213448835.html

Gazans grapple with scale of death and destruction :

//uk.reuters.com/article/burningIssues/idUKTRE50H16E20090118

Ebi aka Haaji

Unfortunately that's the case Haji

and it is Das Reich, not Der Reich.
[Did you copy this one from ShiaChat.com by any chance? :-)]

Noiz

you mean that I'm wrong with

Der Judenreich! Kriegsanstifter, kriegsverlanger!

No, jooneh khodet it's impossible

Yes, war porn

Any set of graphic pictures designed specifically to extract and exploit instinctive responses in a viewer for gain is an instance of pornography.

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You are getting better Haji, but you still don't have it right.
It is Kriegsverlänger my dear. :-)
[Verlangen means to expect and demand, not to make something last longer. The correct term for the latter is therefore Kriegsverlänger not Kriegsverlanger.]

Noiz

Still wait that the parents of dead become human bombs before being so delighted.

The primary objective of Israel was to destroy Hamas and the war machine failed as Hamas vows to continue the fight.

We will all know a new war within these 2 years..

Das blutrünstige Monster, Kriegsanstifter, kriegsverlanger!

Hamas doing its best to keep the war going

//www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3657876,...

Would we hear any peep from the "lovely group" of "bleeding hearts" against what their "heroes" of "resistance" are doing to evoke more bloodshed on either side?

War porn and its petty handlers

Yes Ebi dear, there is now a full fledged media industry of war porn around. Interesting to see its petty handler agents all over this site as well.