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dear TruthSeeker

It is all relative ... like the ratio of male psychos to women psychos is about 10:1. Same goes for the CEO's.

Why has my comment been

Why has my comment been flagged, are we now not allowed to give an honest opinion? Some should go and work in a self employed or contractors environment where it is competitive and then say I am wrong to state this from experience! men and women can be aggressive, but in different ways.

//thegrindstone.com/work-life-balance/women-on-women-bullying-in-the-workplace-on-the-rise/

"Covert Tactics
Generally, though, women aren't openly abusive: In fact, there's evidence that their style of bullying is subtler than men's. "Women are better at reading emotions," says Robert Sutton, a professor of management science at Stanford University. "So they're good at little digs that most men wouldn't even register— the quick glare, or turning away and talking to someone else." ......... It's these pointed digs that make some female bullies more toxic than the classic rageaholic. "A man might give you an unreasonable work load and then yell at you for not completing it. Mean women take advantage of vulnerabilities," Namie says. "They'll backstab, undermine, and exclude to hurt other women."

//www.womenshealthmag.com/life/coping-with-bullies#axzz1mH0bO5Dq

Not true

" I believe that the aggressive drive and desire to dominate, which is required for getting to the top of the pyramid, is lacking among the women ... thanks god! Otherwise, they would have been just another bunch of ruthless SOB's, like the rest of us ... and life would have been a living hell. "

Shazdeh, you are wrong to think that, actually the women in management (not all) can be even more aggressive and bitchy than the men. Many over compensate and are not the type to trust. I am just saying don't generalise!

Bonobo Monkeys

Shazdeh jon,

As always you started a great topic. you may've heard of Bonobo monkeys which as Wikipedia says " [Sex] This is a factor in the lower levels of aggression seen in the bonobo when compared to the common chimpanzee and other apes". 

 //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

Mamane-Omid

good one, Divaneh jan ... lol

Yes, women are finding their way into the middle management for sure. The same is true for other "minorities" in the workplace.

In my view, that progress is due to the "de-masculination" of most jobs, especially in the service industry, which has come to dominate the job market in the West.

However, the top management positions in the West (political and economical both) solidly remain in the hands of the White Guy ... for many reasons.

I believe that the aggressive drive and desire to dominate, which is required for getting to the top of the pyramid, is lacking among the women ... thanks god! Otherwise, they would have been just another bunch of ruthless SOB's, like the rest of us ... and life would have been a living hell.

Thanks Azadeh, no, I mean Shazadeh

Thanks Shazde Jaan for letting the boys down. I do agree that women can bring values into any process that men don't, and their increasing presence in higher management and government has to be celebrated.

A well known fact in management is that women are more suited to the new style of maanagement which is more of an enabler than someone who just gives orders. In high authority positions, they may even be able to bring peace to the world. That is of course if men don't destroy it before that happens. 

Shazdeh! You are RIGHT again!

You are RIGHT ON THE MONEY.   Woman’s approach is NON-MACHO, NON-CONFROTATIONAL, peaceful, practical and does not involve false pride.   Whereas Man’s approach involves ALL of the above!  

Strangely enough, Islam IGNORES all that KNOWLEDGE and wisdom.

My father used to say that Islamic countries would never be able to catch up with the West so long as they take pride in a practice of disabling half of their BRAIN POWER, the WOMEN!

Your example indicated one of those occasions!   My experience is quite similar to yours!

Great Study Shazdeh!   Thank you!

Dear P_J

Women's impact on civilizing us, became clear to me through realizing how even having a single woman in the business meetings can change the overall behavior and performance.

30 years ago, all-men meetings were the norm, and take my word for it ... they were aweful. Bunch of testostrone fueled, ego driven, aggressive males around a table; often made for low-quality discussions and subpar outcomes.

For me, the most revealing case was during a team-dynamic workshop, where 10 teams of technically qualified personnel (each with 5 members) were given a hypothetical problem to solve. After the discussions and the decisions were made; it was revealed that the problem was designed based on a real-world disaster.

Fully 9 out of the 10 groups opted for a course of action, which in the real-world case had led to disaster. In my own group, although I could clearly see the wrongful choice that my teammates were making; I was unable to convince any of them. Even against the rules of the "team-dynamic exercise", which required concensus for any decision; they simply overuled my vote and dismissed it.

The only team that made the right decision, was the team with a woman in it. I found it quite significant, and later tried to figure out why that team was able to choose the right path. Interestingly, that one woman was the team member who had indentified the correct path, but she had presented it in a much weaker argument than my own. Nonetheless, somehow, she was able to convince those 4 men (quite easily) to avoid the "disasterous" decision; yet, I had failed despite my much deeper knowledge of the issue and better arguments.

I am personally convinced of the civilizing role of women, but have not studied it enough to present a robust argument. I believe that it has to do with the higher value that women place on civilized attributes, such as safety, health, welfare and charity.

فرامرز جان

Well said: nothing like a Super Bowl party, with pizza and beer, to bring out the baboon in the manly men!

BTW they will get your freedom too and put you under the ball-and-chain. It's just a matter of time. You can run but you can't hide ... resistance is futile.

Boys will be Boys!

Shazde Jaan,

Women have been trying hard to saddle us for the past thousands of years, but we will never succumb to their wishes.

We will fight for our god-given right to sit in front of TV, watch a soccer match, drink beer, eat pizza and jump up and down like baboons!

And they will never take that away from us!

So TRUE! So True!

Your article was a GREAT journey in soul searching and justice in human Psyche!

I whole heartedly agree with you that women have had a far reaching impact/influence on building of human civilization, than we would like to think, or give them credit for!

In fact they still are the foundation builders. Unfortunately, as you mentioned, some of their efforts have been ignored and/or fallen on deaf ears.

Solution, in my humble opinion is; to make sure that their RIGHTS are fully observed and not violated; also that they are encouraged to seek high political positions and make sure that the glass ceiling, constructed and protected by men is BROKEN!

Again THANK YOU Shazde for your inspiring essay!

Thanks A.O. for the good link

Here is some light psychological reading on the internet, looking for answers to the war question:

"Why have we been unable to escape war despite our material advancement and the collective wisdom of our history and cultures? This is a troubling question for those who expect progress to lead to peace."

//www.scholarscup.org/app/webroot/files/Psychology%20of%20War%20Resource.pdf

Fascinating studies done on this

Particularly by Dr. David Watts of my alma mater.  All indications are that we have the same tendency to wagre war to eliminate rivals and gain territory as our close genetic cousins.  Here's a NY Times article on the issue:

//www.nytimes.com/2010/06/22/science/22chimp.html

PS- On a personal note, I tried so hard to get in on this research, but it was starting as I was graduating from grad. school.  So, no such luck. 

مریم خانم

Thanks for your kind vote of confidence.

Oon Yaroo dear

My limited experience with the Zaynab Sisters made it clear to me that they were no different than the Other Sisters ... loving and caring.

Shazdeh Jaan, the Hezbollahi women (Zaynab Sisters)

love to fight all the time?

This is a paradox, isn't it?

Or is it that Zaynab Sisters are actually male with no penis!?

Shazdeh, Great truth in your blog

The fact you wrote it make this blog more valid.  thanks.