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Dear Mehrnaz,

Thanks for your warm comment. I really don't mind the sharp comments, I often invite them myself for the sake of a varied discussion, and take it all in good fun ;-)

Also, except for few people who belittle Iranians in general out of an ignorant and hideous orientalist arrogance which I find obnoxious, I have deep respect for most people here. I see in their comments a nervousness about reckless policies that can endanger Iran and Iranians. It reflects their love for the country and a diffferent vision for achieving progress, although it is 180 degree opposite to my views.

I remember when Iran took the British hostages, I was thrilled with the very hardline action of Ahmadinejad, making it clear that Iran would not allow the asinine British re-defining the water borders while threatening to use its mighty navy present in Iraq to intimadate Iran to compliance. I remember I was so mad at Karim Sadjadipour's article in Washington post, going along with the rest of the western journalist calling Iran's taking the British hostages a reckless act of the crazy Ahmadinejad. Many people also have been freaking out every time Israel or the US (remember Bolton in power?) threatened Iran, over its missile program, over this red line about nuclear activity....and everytime Iran crossed those red lines, the west drew another red line! I do understand the worry of those who do get scared and accuse people like myself for "az door migeh lengesh kon." But, in my view, if Iran had listened to these threats everytime, then it would not have had any of the achievements that it has gained now.

Simply put, I believe that it is the west's policy to keep Iran as backward as it can, if you accept some points, then they'll push further until you compromise more. It is a self-defeating mentality. I believe one needs a very smart and brave leader to know how much you can resist bullying and work for your country safely.

Dear "Non-voters",

I guess that nobody says these elections are free like the elections in European countries. And I understand very well the frustrations which were caused after Khatami and the elections ´97/´01.

So you say that boycotting the elections is better because this shows the IRI the unsatisfaction. Ok, please give me answers to these two questions:

1) Which period was better: ´97-´05 or ´05-´09?
2) What happenes when only 20% of the people vote?
3) What can bring a change: sitting at home or scenting mark?

The becoming of Ahmadinejad

The becoming of Ahmadinejad as President of Iran in 2005 elections must be seen in elucidation of the election of G. W. Bush as President of the USA for the second term! Why would Americans vote for this cluster of a failure twice? I think the answer to this question has been given by others many times!
Why would the Iranians choose this "moron" as their president? a) The clerics wanted him to become president, "a lunatic" and his gang of crazies! To send a signal, we are fearless! (this is ofcourse after all the secaret talks, cooperation, and offers of further cooperations with the United States, which did not bear any fruits - )! b) People were so poor that they were duped by this "morons" shallow and populist slogans and promises. (It's always been the economy, most Iranians are occupied with the economy and not Palestine - )!

The United States of America has a new president now, Americans voted for Obama. That's why I believe Ahmadinejads days are numbered, he has served his purpose and no matter how many votes he gathers in the coming elections, he will not be the next President of Iran!

I believe, the next president of Iran will be someone else. Will the new president be able to change anything, I don't think so! Though, I think Iranians will feel a bit safe from an outside attack.

ps! Iranians in Iran were far to relaxed and easy going comapred with Iranians in diaspora during the Bush era!

Dear Jaleho

It is interesting to note that many of these advocates of tolerance and freedom of expression, so easily become abusive and threaten violence and make accusations of violence against individuals who dare express a different opinion! Your posting are always well-informed, intelligent and often very good humoured. I thought I wanted to share this observation.

مومنت خانوم!

مومنت خانوم!

چه اشکالی داره آدم طبع شعرش گل کنه؟ این شعر و شاعری خیلی وقت ها خاک میریزه رو گذشته آدمها!
مگه مراد شما «حضرت امام» بعد از عمری مبارزه با استکبار ..........تو سرازیری قبر یکدفعه طبع شعرشان گل نکرده بود و قبل از ارتحال از باب عشق وحال و به سبک «گلپری جون» نسراییده بودند که.......

«من به خال لبت ای دوست گرفتار شدم»
آخر عمری ببین واخ که چه مردار شدم

حالا دیگه.........دیگه و دیگه و دیگه و دیگه
دارم میرم..............بابا کرم.....جون منی
شیشه بابارو نشکنی...........

اهم.....اهم.........لعنت بر شیطان حرّام زادَه

در ضمن.............جیگر اون «حساب دو دو تا چار تا» کردن تموم سربازهای گمنام امام زمان رو برم در ولایت کفر و الحاد!
تا وقتی دو دو تا هاتون میشه چارتا.....عین سلاخ های کشتارگاه در فرانسه گوش تا گوش سر میبرین و در آلمان زبون از حلقوم بیرون میکشین و تو «میکونوس» با مسلسل آدم درو میکنین .................ولی همچین که دو دو تاتون نشد چارتا............چی بگم ؟ غیرت خود کشی هم که ندارید!!

لذت ببرین تا هنوز «دو دو تا» تون میشه چارتا! اگر نه....فکر نکنم تو «آرژانتین» هم در امون باشید!

Mark my word

As I predicted long ago that Mr. Obama will be the next president, I will announce that the next president of Iran will be Mr. Mousavi. Why? Because this is another "MOVE" that IRI is going to excecute to prolong the game. Mahmud’s mission is accomplished and he is finished.

مومنت آقا!

اینجا چرا همه شاعر شدن؟!

همچین شده که دیگه فرد هم هوس مولانا کرده و هیبرو پاک یادش رفته و شازده هم شده یک پا صمصام!!

...

;-)

Jaleho: your support of IRI is disgusting = support of fascists

سگ زرد برادر شغاله

موسوی و احمدی گوساله.

ژاله هو هم عقل درست نداره

سر به نیایش آخوند میذاره.

رای من و رای شما نداره

همش مال رهبر خر سواره!

‫ژاله خانم

‫منظورم شخص خود، عوام فریبش نبود. لیست کارهای دو جانبش که چی وانمود میکنه و چی حقیقتاً انجام میدهد دراز است. منظورم آدمهای جناهش بود که براشون ۴ زن غیر سیغه ای داشتن شرع است.


برای اکثر ایرانیها، داشتن علم اتم و چرخهء سوختش یک افتخار است. ولی، بدست آوردن این علم و تحریک کردن دیگران برای حمله به ایران دو نکته کاملاً متفاوت است. دوستی برایم این ایمیل را فرستاد، که فکر کردن راجع بهش خوب است.


اي وطن تا هر كرانت هسته‌اي
بحث هر پير و جوانت هسته‌اي
هر خبر از اين و آنت هسته‌اي
تخم لق در هر دهانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


آن وكيل و آن وزير و آن مدير
اي وطن تا هر كرانت هسته‌اي
بحث هر پير و جوانت هسته‌اي
هر خبر از اين و آنت هسته‌اي
تخم لق در هر دهانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


راحت و در برجِ عاج و سير سير
از منِ خسته بخواهد: شير گير!
شيرگيرانِ نهانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


آن يكي تكنيسين بمب اتم
وان دگر كله فرو كرده به خُم
وين يكي در فكر اعجازست و قم
الغرض تا جمكرانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


اين وطن دارد كه درد بي شمار
اقتصاد و اعتياد و زهرمار!
هم تورم هم گراني هم فشار
چون فشار دشمنانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


صدهزاران مردم ما در غمند
در فلاكت يا ندار و مستمند
اين زمان هم عالِمانت مي‌رَمَند
قمپز و فخر سرانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


«ما همه شيران ولي شير عَلَم»
هسته‌اي‌انديش‌و با اين عقل كم
تا به كي در زير بار جهل خم؟
اي همه تير و كمانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


هسته‌اي بي‌اقتدار و بسته‌اي
چون كلنگِ بي‌سر و بي‌‌دسته‌اي
خسته‌اي از روزگاران خسته‌اي
منزوي از هر جهانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


با چنين بنياد لق لق در رهيم
فكر خود بر نقش ايوان مي‌دهيم
غافل از ويراني منزلگهيم
پاي لنگان خرانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


مدعي! تبعيض با فقر و فساد
اختلاف و تفرقه، كين و عناد
گر كه مردي حل نما عادل‌نماد!
پيشكش باقي به جانت هسته‌اي
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي


قافيه تنگ آمد و آويختي
آبروي شاعران هم ريختي
اين همه زهر و شكر آميختي
نقطه‌ي لكنت‌‌زبانت هسته‌اي!
ملت بي آب و نانت هسته‌اي

آ میتی عزیز،

والا من زمان شاه دوستانی داشتم که باباشون دو تا زن داشت، حکومت هم جمهوری اسلامی نشده بود هنوز. آقا محمود هم که یک زن بیشتر نداره، در نتیجه احتمال اینکه من اگر زن ایشون بودم و هوو سرم نمی‌‌آمد بیشتر است از اینکه زمان شاه با یک دیوث ازدواج می‌کردم. اقلا آقا محمود تو ازدواج تجربه خوب پس داده!

دیگه اینکه، شعر‌هایی‌ که من دوست دارم بیشتر شبیه مال حافظ است که خوب، ایشون حافظ قرآن بوده، و یا مولانا که ایشون هم مثنویشون تالی‌ قران است. در نتیجه فکر نکنم زیاد از نظر شعر به من صدمه بخوره. ولی‌ در عوض، من انرژی هسته ی را خیلی‌ برای ایران دوست دارم. حساب دو دو تا چار تا میگه بهتره به محمود رای بدم.

‫ژاله خانم،

‫شمام پیرو مهدویان اید؟ نه راستی راستی منتظرید که ‫این بابا تا زیر زانو خون راه بندازه تا مهدی از جمکرون ظاهر شه؟


‫واقعاً در حیرتم.... کسی تحصیل کرده چطور پشت این افراطی میتونه راه بیفته! شما فرض کنیم که با یک کسی مثل محمود ازدواج کنی....فرض کنیم... دیدم اهل شعری، اگر همچی شخصی فردا پاشد به شما دستور داد که دیگه حق نداری لای کتاب شعر فلانی را باز کنی چون به ایدهء مذهبی من برمیخوره. این کار را خواهید کرد؟ ماشالله زبون هم که خوب دارید، اگر سر پیچی کنید، صاف بره یک زن شرعی دیگه بگیره، چیکار میکنید؟


‫اینه کل اهمیتی، که خودتون به خودتون میذارید؟

فرد جان،

شما فارسی‌ به این قشنگی‌ بلد بودید و ما نمیدانستیم! میگم، من به احمدی‌نژاد رای میدم، ولی‌ اگر موسوی هم انتخاب شد ناراحت نمی‌‌شم. همینکه خاتمی که در مورد هسته ای سازش کار بود جایش را داد به موسوی که مواضع هسته ی مثل احمدی‌نژاد دارد، برای من کافیست. شما چطور؟

My two cents,

The purpose of the blog is to show evidence that no-voting increases the chance of the guy you don't want to have as president... e.g. Mahmoud in Iran and McCain some months ago in the US.

It wouldn't make a damn bit of difference whether

you go and vote or stay home and decide not to vote.

This regime is quite experienced and capable in running this circus very well "with" or "without" your participation, as they have done before.

They have plenty of extras to bring in front of the foreign journalists and their cameras and present them to the world as enthusiastic voters.

من رأی می دهم

این روز ها دوباره بازار «انتخابات» را داغ کرده اند!ـ
واقعا نمی دانم چگونه است که ملتی پس از سی سال تجربه همچنان به این بازی خفت بار و پر تزویر ملایان تن می دهد و یک برنامه ریزی بدخواهانه و ضد مردمی را انتخابات ریاست جمهوری به حساب می آورد؟
نمایش و معرکه ای که بر اساس آن عده ای ماموت عقب ماندهء قسی القلب ِ بی وطن در شورای نگهبان یا در نهاد ولایت فقیه یکی یا دوتن را انتخاب می کنند و خدا و پیغمبر و امام زمان و شخص ولی فقیه و همهء عوامل سرکوبگر امنیتی و نظامی و شبه نظامیان بسیجی شان را به تأیید و حمایت او می فرستند و رآی دادن به وی را بر مردم ساده لوح و غافل تکلیف دینی می شمارند!ـ
به هر حال با خواندن عنوان یکی از مطالب پُر شمار که این روزها خرج انتصابات مسخرهء آخوندها می شود، این چند بیت در حاشیهء آن مطلب تقریر افتاد.ـ
عنوان آن نوشته این بود:ـ
«من رأی می دهم»
واین چندبیت توضیح خواهند داد که«من»چرا وبه«چه کسی»رأی می دهم

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من رأی می دهم به الاغی که قبل ازین
او را الاغ های دگر رأی داده اند
افسار او کشیده و آورده اند پیش
پالان بادکرده به پشتش نهاده اند
ریشی دراز بر زنخش بسته اند و بند
از پوزه اش به هرزه دُرایی گشاده اند
من رآی می دهم به سگ زرد یا شغال
کاین هردو تخم یک خر و یک خانواده اند
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این رأی من وظیفهء تاریخی من است
وز روشنای رأی من این خانه روشن است
سی سال رأی داده و خر برگزیده ام
وینگونه استراتژی من مدون است
من رأی می دهم که شود رهنمای خلق
گرگی که در کمین و امینی که رهزنست
محجورم و صغیر م و در کشتزار دین
خارم خلیده در دل و خاکم به خرمن است
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تا کاروان به شبرو دین واسپرده ایم
خوشبخت خیل رهزن و بیچاره میهن است

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م.سحر
پاریس 8.4.2009
//msahar.blogspot.com

یک توضیح دیگر :
من رأی به کسانی می دهم که ملایان حاکم رأی دادن به آنها را به مردم ایران دیکته و تکلیف می کنند و منصوبان خود را برگزیده گان یک انتخابات قانونی جلوه می دهند. برگزیدگانی که در این سی سال برترین هنرشان آبادکردن گورستانها و سیاهپوش کردن مردم ایران و مسلط کردن فرهنگ شوم ِ ندبه و زاری بر وطن ما ایران بوده است.
پس بازهم به خود نمی آیم و از خواب خرگوشی خود بیدار نمی شوم .ـ
من رأی می دهم!ـ

مهم ترين وظيفه ملی

مهمترین وظیفه ما نابودی گروه ترویستی جمهوری اسلامی میباشد/

اگر رای بدهید یعنی:
بله..من شکجنه و سنگساری قبول دارم.
چپاول ثروت ایران بدست آخوندا, راضی هستم.
حق حقوق زنان و مردان کیلویی چند؟
فقر,اعتیاد فراوان برای کشورم خیلی خوبه.
تهمت و بیعدالتی خیلی خوبه.
آزار و تهدید روزانه به مردم خیلی خوبه.
رافاه مردم؟؟شوخی نکن.
هر چی پول داریم بدهیم به گروهای ترویستی در فلسطین و لبنان.

"JUST SAY NO TO ISLAMIC TERRORIST OF IRAN".

Hajminator jan

I agree with you that there are lots of behind the scene currents exerting influence but there is a power struggle and the outcome, even after the vetting process, is not inevitable. Otherwise what is the point of voting? In relation to Ahmadi-Nedjad's 'surprise' presidency, at the second round, the competition was with Hashemi. Apart from Hashemi being disliked by many as "opulent" and "corrupt", Ahmadi-Nedjad actually appealed to many deprived layers - and he still does. I spoke with many people at that time and afterwards who did not even know him but identified with his class, he had not been corrupted and in fact still lives a very very modest life style whether or not we like his politics. I am not saying there was not any rigging and pressure at the points of voting. There could well have been but that is not specific to Iran. I think his votes were only 10% in Tehran, but he had more votes than his rival overall and particularly in the provinces. Anyway, I would like to believe (I might be wrong) Mousavi has a good chance of getting in because of his good track record during the war with Iraq and in fact I remember that in the last election there was an attempt to liken Ahmadi-Nedjad to Mousavi to create that sort of positive association, and perhaps that did help Ahmadi-Nedjad's image. Mousavi is currently free from the image of Khatami as soft and ineffective, and is well respected by ordinary people because of his politics and track record. So this might be wishful-thinking, but I think there is a chance and we must pull together and give it a good push - The alternative, as you say, is dire.

Basicly Iranian,

This is SOOO typical Iranian, so typical, really so typical; if
something doesn´t work, then one retreats into his shell just
watching what the others are doing. And this habit is so silly and childish. Total abstention? So typical Iranian, Ghar Kardan, this is so ridiculous, and the most foolish way of answering to a problem, and sooo typical Iranian.

Not voting makes the rulers stronger (and it proves that Iranians will deserve this system another four years). If you don´t know the difference between the years 1997-2005 and 2005-2009, then get a move on, go to Iran and talk to the people.

And dear non-voters: Stop giving silly advises. It doesn´t matter to you anyway, you are living abroad, writing half-witted comments and having a good life. It matters only to the people living in Iran.

For the grown up wannabees: Boro Ghar koneed.

B O R I N G

It appears that every four years we have to witness IRI circus  or so called presidential  dance and song which is nothing more than a show to amuse those who wish to be amused.  Here are a few facts of IRI:

1) Per IRI Constitution, there is ONLY ONE leader … an unelected molla with NO TERM limitation.  He can name a president and he can “fire” a president regardless of people’s choice.
2) President’s office is nothing but a clerical position, a custodian.  I am sure most of you remember that even Fariba (khatami) little FYI speech during his clerical terms.
3) President CAN only follow what is dictated to him by his SUPERIOR as this true with any job with hierarchy … for IRI supporters, this means the boss tells the subordinate to what to do and what to say and when.

Knowing these 3 simple rules, then one can deduce the following:

1) IRI’s top dudes select the Custodian based on current situation that they are in.  For example, they needed to show that IRI has a soft side, so the hired Khatami … a very well UNKOWN with promise of Reform.  Next, when young folks started to demand more freedom they hired a mad dog to increase the oppression.  My guess is that  due to world’s worsening economics where they need a soft spoken, “friendly” custodian, so Mosavi will be hired next.  They need to make peace with world or they will have more problems on their hands than just long hairs and women wearing booths.
2) People’s vote is simply a tool to show nation of the world that IRI follows a democratic policy.   To achieve this, the propaganda machine resorts to same circus song and dance and at the last resort, they have been forcing people to vote to get that STAMP in their birth certificate which without it there will be no government jobs, subsidiary, etc.

Anyhow, since IRI voting system is nothing but a sham and result is already known (to few) then people’s voting or not voting is not a question.  Let those who believe in the system vote, they will be happy and those who don’t want to vote can refrain from wasting their time … I don’t participate in IRI presidential theatrical show because I don’t want to be associated with a system whose hands are bloody with blood of thousands upon thousands of young Iranians .

Freddy...

Don't bother with Fred the only thing he cares about is what's good for Israel and how to keep the aipac cash flowing

Mehrnaz jan,

When Khatami ran for the first time in 1997, Rafsanjani officially incited people to go to the ballots by affirming that the elections would be transparent. Why such an assertion if there are just the popular votes that count? And how can one justify that in the last election Ahmadinejad, who was ranked third at the first round, finished president?

Otherwise, I agree that this time things are as when Khatami ran for the first time. It’s great that so many people outside care for Iran and think that they can do something to prevent Ahmadinejad to become President for the second time.

Dear Ali

I disagree with Hajminator (sorry Hajminator!) that whoever the leader picks will win the election. There is no doubt about the process of the weeding and selection of the candidates but once candidates get into the ring the popular vote counts. I believe there must be some rigging and pressure, but that happens in all elections anywhere in the world, and there is no indication that this is particularly a problem in Iran. At any rate, lesser the votes because of doubts regarding legitimacy, stronger the prospect of Ahmadi-Nedjad getting in, and the question posed: Can we survive another 4 years of "wiping Israel off the map" and "Germany 1938/Hitler" accusations? Or do we want to open a new chapter now that Bush is out, and particularly so when the candidate actually has a track record of good statesmanship.

Ali jan

My first sentence No I don’t was to say that in my view, if the regime has decided to hold Ahmadinejad in power, then my vote and any others won’t count.

But, there are signs which prove that they are willing to be more flexible now. It’s why I think it’s decisive to not let Ahmadinejad finish first before even the elections. Don’t voting will have this effect.

Khamenei objected to the candidature of Khatami, but not to the Mossavi’s one. In such case, I think that if Khamenei doesn’t give his preference to a given candidate till the end then the winner will be the one who gets the most votes from the polls. So each vote counts.

Anyway, I was referring to Khamenei, my editor corrects misspelled words automatically and for it, Khomeini is the correct version of Khamenei (sh*t), sorry.

Dear Hajminator

You have to forgive me. I am totally confused.

 You say, you don't think your vote counts (if I understand it correctly, because you open with the answer to my question, "No I do not...,"), but you are voting!

  You also state "that Mosavi has Khomeini's (you meant Khamenei, right?) approval". His approval as the next President, or as a candidate?

   Do you think Khamenei picks the next president from the pool of the few, or the popular vote selects the winner, again, from the pool of the approved (khodee) candidates?

 I understand you consider Ahmadinejad dangerous for Iran and  don't want him to be re-elected. My question is:

  Do you think your vote has an impact-determining the winner- or whoever the ruling establishment picks, is going to be the winner, regardless of the popular vote?

Ali P.

Yes, my vote counts. The system like any other system in the world by then had already flushed the non electable and the issue becomes what people choose between the choices that system has given. Again, this is like anywhere in the world. The doubt that in any other systems the votes might not count is a human thing, it's not only for us. But I believe the election performed as honest as anywhere else in the world.

Dear Ali

You say:

If you are voting, do you trust that your vote actually counts, and the candidate (one of those whose candidacy is approved) with the actual highest number of votes in the ballot, will be announced as the winner?

No I do not, but I think that if the regime has decided to change its behavior by adapting a smoother policy – that Mosavi has Khamenei's approval – then each vote counts.

Signs are indicating such turnaround. First because Khamenei said recently that his support to the government doesn’t mean his support to a given candidate and also newspapers inside the country printed articles showing that Oosoolgarayan begin to be fed up of Ahmadinejad.

Future is uncertain and slight but if Ahmadinejad is re-elected, I really fear a war. He belongs to a group called Mahdavian which claims that Ahmadinejad is a precursor of Mehdi’s apparition!! That means all to me.

Innocent Question

Many who'll decide to vote, and many who'll decide not to vote, love Iran and are doing what they think is best for the homeland. I have no doubt.

The ones who choose not to, believe their votes are being used to legitimize the system.

The ones who choose to vote, think their votes count, and want the best- or the least evil of the candidates- to win.

Here is an innocent question:

 If you are voting, do you trust that your vote actually counts, and the candidate (one of those whose candidacy is approved) with the actual highest number of votes in the ballot, will be announced as the winner?

‫با خرد حتماً شماها باند از ما بهترون هاید؟

یک دفعه برای شما توضیح دادم ولی مثل اینکه گوشتون سنگینه.
رأی ندادن = باز رویکار آمدن احمدی نژادی و باز رویکار آمدن احمدی نژاد احتمال بمباران ایران را زیاد میکنه.
اگر ایران بمباران شود، آخوندها و احمدی نژاد از عرق میهن دوستی مردم استفاده خواهند کرد و هر چی کمبود و زور و وحشی بازی که انجام میدهند را به این مداخله ارتباط خواهند داد و در این صورت برندهء آخر محمود و این دیوان خواهند بود. اینها مراکز اتمی خود را از اراک و نطنز به اماکن مخفی انتقال دادهند و منتظر بهانه ای هستند که بازرسان بین الملل را از کشور خارج کنند و به کار خودشان با راحتی ادامه دهند. خراب کردن مراکز هسته ای که شماها مکانشان را میدانید به پایان جمهوری اسلامی نخواهد انجامید.

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