Dear Jahanshah,
I hope you are doing well. I have been a staunch reader of Iranian.com since its debut and I have always enjoyed the diversity and quality of its content.
However I have to let you know that recently I am much less enthusiastic about visiting Iranian.com. Even when I receive your email updates I abstain from clicking on the links and reading the articles. And every time I do, I come out angry, frustrated and drained! The reason is that your website has turned into an open forum for chauvinistic nationalism, blunt racism, hate mongering, radicalism, Islamophobia and hateful exchanges and feuds between old timers. The atmosphere has become so hostile, unwelcoming and exclusive that I am sure many average readers like me, who do not share the dominant "Aryan race supremacist" views of the active majority, will think twice before coming back to the website, let alone contributing articles and participating in the debates. To be brutally honest; every time I spend a couple of minutes reading articles on Iranian.com I feel the same level of frustration and anger as when I read Rajanews and Kayhan and that worries me about the future of our beloved magazine.
Anyway, sorry for the overall negative feedback but as a long time reader I felt that it was my responsibility to share my opinion with you.
Best regards,
Ali
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Abarmard, the venerable IRI apologist
by boom shakalaka on Fri May 28, 2010 03:02 AM PDTwrites, "However there is nothing one can do until some of these groups retire and new blood joins in who are more knowledgeable and open minded."
Some of these apologists have absolutely NO SHAME! I guess what Abarmard means is that if we had more knowledge like him and were open minded like him, we too, would come on this site almost every day supporting a rapist regime.
And these people expect more civility! You're one moozy sort, Abramard, and I suspect you've been told this throughout your life. So sadly, I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.
Iran is a prisoner of IRI
It is
by amirkabear4u on Thu May 27, 2010 05:19 AM PDThard to be GOOD
but easy to be bad !!!!!!!
pendar neek, goftar neek, raftar neek
If ...
by KouroshS on Wed May 26, 2010 03:03 PM PDTMatalak andakhtan stops. sure why the heck not:)
"So let us begin anew --
by vildemose on Wed May 26, 2010 12:14 PM PDT"So let us begin anew -- remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and sincerity is always subject to proof. ~ John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Inaugural Address, January 20, 1961).
vilemose jan
by KouroshS on Wed May 26, 2010 12:07 PM PDTfostering a hostile atmosphere and snide remarks go hand in hand.
Hostile
by vildemose on Wed May 26, 2010 11:43 AM PDTHostile Atmosphere
//iranian.com/main/blog/genghis-khan/hostile-atmosphere
Quite Intriguing
by KouroshS on Wed May 26, 2010 11:15 AM PDTThan even in the midst of this, sorta "trouble-shooting" session that we are having here, trying to figure out what needs to be done in order to turn the heat down a bit and calm things down Half of the messages are designed to point the finger to a certain group of people and blame them for everything, while totally forgetting that the finger pointers themselevs could be part of the problem as well:))
Manzooram kase khassi nis vallah, Goftam faghat bahatoon Dar myoon bezaram:)))
Ali and Abarmard: In case
by vildemose on Wed May 26, 2010 09:44 AM PDTAli and Abarmard: In case you haven't read this blog:
Civility & bed time stories. Prepare to assume the position//iranian.com/main/blog/oktaby/civility-bed-time-stories-prepare-assume-position#comment-299127
Ali
by vildemose on Wed May 26, 2010 08:51 AM PDTYou have every right to oppose ideas, and political positions. But simply stringing together a slew of provocative insults does little to advance your pov on "civility", nor win anyone over to whatever position you seem to hold.The comments on your blog are typical reactions to offensively lousy product.
Perhaps it is an influx of new users, some of whom have joined the community not to be part of it, but, rather, to instigate derision and dissension.
Abarmard
by Bavafa on Wed May 26, 2010 08:50 AM PDTYour analogy was great. I was thinking of the Persian saying "koone goozo az khodesh baad gamoone" but I think I like yours better
Mehrdad
just a few
by Little Tweet on Wed May 26, 2010 08:23 AM PDTThe problem with cyber space is that laat hayeh jonoob shahri mitoonan to jam bor bokhoran. A few of them found each other here too, they heckle people who sound more educated and sophisticated, angoolak unsuspecting women and chakerim-nokarim to each other. Watch them for a while, it's easy to tell who they are.
Ali , I share your sentiments entirely.
by ali_UK on Wed May 26, 2010 05:51 AM PDTMajid Jaan
by Khar on Tue May 25, 2010 08:52 PM PDTWelcome back to the best Dog & Pony show on the net ;-)
AO, no worries pilgram :)
by SamSamIIII on Tue May 25, 2010 08:21 PM PDTيارو آبجوشو جلو می کشه میگه
به شادی هر چی مرده بجز یکی. يه يدکی دستشو بالا می کنه می گه، اه، چرا مارو ابو نامرد صدا می کنی؟
این هم شد داستان ملا
Dear Ali & Sargord!
by P_J on Tue May 25, 2010 07:02 PM PDTOBJECTIVITY should be the goal, in the exercise of democracy and freedom of expression not CHARACTER ASSASINATION!
There are some, on this site, that are using IC as a propaganda tool. They don't seem to work or hold any jobs except being PAID by those who they represent and we all know who these characters are! In my humble opinion these character(s) ignite the controversies for or against any topics.
PS: I would love to hear more of Ali and Sargord
طرف آبجوشو جلو می کشه میگه
AbarmardTue May 25, 2010 06:53 PM PDT
این هم شد ماجرای اینجا.
Good observation samsam
by Anonymous Observer on Tue May 25, 2010 06:42 PM PDTthis "blog" itself is offensive.
ali aqa
by Niloufar Parsi on Tue May 25, 2010 06:34 PM PDTvery well said. thank you. and please stick around.
Peace
It is "hostile" because of Ommaties like "Him"
by SamSamIIII on Tue May 25, 2010 03:31 PM PDTHe who who calls those who dont subscribe to his stateless Ommatie vision of Iran in total ignorance as "Aryan supremist", "hate mongers", "Radicals", "Racist", "Bigots", "Chauvenist" & other offensive terms in such a short blog. He is the one ignoring his own ignorance thru rage. He is just angry that this is not Raja news where his likes can have a one way free ride on sermons :)).
Cheers!!!
Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia
«کلیک» بر تر از هرچیز آمد پدید!
MajidTue May 25, 2010 03:25 PM PDT
دوست عزیز من کاملاً حرفت رو درک میکنم.
از یکطرف جی جی عنوان میکنه که حملات شخصی رو تحمّل نمیکنه و اونهارو «دیلیت» میکنه و از طرف دیگه به هر شترچرون ساندیس خوری اجازه میده به تحریک صغرا خانوم بند انداز بیاد و کسی رو که حتی یکمرتبه باهاش همکلام نشده و حتی توی «بلاگ»ی حضور نداره مورد فحاشی و لیچار پراکنی قرار بده!
و وقتی هم به جی جی اعتراض میکنی بجای رسیدگی به موضوع برات پشت سر هم دعوتنامهء «جشن و سرور» ایمیل میکنه!
I agree
by Abarmard on Tue May 25, 2010 12:41 PM PDTI have dropped hours/time that I used to come and enjoy iranian.com. It's not useful anymore and the problem is that to express ones thought, no matter what it is, if not in line with handful of people, one gets bombarded with insults. Personally it doesn't bother me, but I fully agree and understand the writer's concerns. However there is nothing one can do until some of these groups retire and new blood joins in who are more knowledgeable and open minded.
Regardless don't take things too seriously :)
Dear Ali,
by Q on Tue May 25, 2010 11:22 AM PDTIsn't just so typical that in response to your heartfelt observations, you get called "former Islamic Republic elite, the Islamist supremacist", who is "erroneously lashing out" against peaceful, polite and objective souls like Mrs. Vildemose?
At least for people who may not know what you were talking about, there is now perfect evidence of the hostile atmosphere here in IC.
My advice to you Ali jan: just ignore the comments. They are full of the kind of racism and bigotry that you have correctly observed. These do not change anybody's mind but create a backlash against the very goals these bigots claim to be advancing. However, to save yourself the grief, skip the comments.
BTW, this is how "Sargord" defines civility
by Anonymous Observer on Tue May 25, 2010 10:24 AM PDTRead his comments on my blog:
//iranian.com/main/blog/anonymous-observer/name-one-way-which-velayat-e-faghih-not-monarchy
onlyiran
by vildemose on Tue May 25, 2010 10:07 AM PDTThe former Islamic Republic elite, the Islamist supremacists, who were recently purged by the system from positions of power, are going through a withdrawal. This is how one of the symptomps manifest itself; no longer in power to set the Islamist supremacist agenda, they erroneously lash out on those who are trying to salvage their heritage and culture from the onslaught of Islamist hordes.
Dear Ali, share your sentiments but yet to give up
by Bavafa on Tue May 25, 2010 10:05 AM PDTI keep thinking that many of us ran away from the thugs in Iran and lets not do the same at least here on IC. We will see, nashashideh shab drazeh
Mehrdad
sargord: you keep coming back my brother!
by fooladi on Tue May 25, 2010 09:56 AM PDTYou put more than a smile on my face, your comments invariably ignite a roar of laughter, the kind of laughter I have not head since watching saddam's paid employees on TV defending his regime with extreme confidence only coming from and absolute buffoon of a fool!
There's a saying in Persian
by Cost-of-Progress on Tue May 25, 2010 09:46 AM PDT"ye soozan be khodet bezan, ye javaldooz be mardom"
It is funny how the blogger only complains about the islamophobists, and alleged supremacy buffs and not the proliferation of the supporters of the Islamic Regime signing on with multiple ID's day after day to post their piece and attack the Iranians on this site.
Oh, BTW, phobia is normally a false sense of fear - believe me you that the "fear" in this case is very very real!
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IRAN FIRST
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I'm a little puzzled here
by Onlyiran on Tue May 25, 2010 09:34 AM PDTcan you please point us to one article on this site that claims Aryan supremacy. I don't recall ever seeing one.
You're right, Ali. It takes
by Sargord Pirouz on Tue May 25, 2010 09:08 AM PDTYou're right, Ali. It takes a mighty thick skin to participate in discussions on iranian.com.
And it's been a while since I learned something new from the site. But the few bits I have learned recently are what keep me coming back.