Happy New Year: You Can Now Be Detained Indefinitely

Happy New Year: You Can Now Be Detained Indefinitely
by Soosan Khanoom

Indefinite military detention of Americans became the law of the land Saturday, as President Barack Obama signed a defense bill that codified that authority, even as he said he would not use it.

"President Obama's action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law,” said Anthony Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union.


Obama has not brought the change that voters were looking for in 2008. He won’t bring us that change if he’s re-elected in 2012, either. Obama has continued and expanded George W. Bush’s attack on the Constitution, and there’s no reason to believe that he’s going to change his ways. There is no difference between him and the Republican candidates with the exception of Ron Paul ..... I am not a Republican but I do not mind to vote for Ron Paul ... I certainly hope for Obama to be kicked out of the office. He has betrayed his voters especially all those young college kids who voted for him ..

HSK- aka Darya

p.s. Hi everyone .. I am still travelling and I missed you all  ... will be back to the U.S soon with lots of stories and pictures to share  : )


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Hey everyone

by Soosan Khanoom on

Thanks a bunch  for your kind replies and new year wishes ... I have limited internet access and not much free time these days otherwise I would have replied to each of your kind comments separately ...

can't wait to come back  .. untill then know that I am thinking of you and wish you were all here with me ... 

may be JJ can set up an Iranian.com travel tour agency so we can get together and explore the world .. I am sure it would be lots of fun

: )


I was actually planning to

by hirre on

I was actually planning to see the tomb 2011, but for historic reasons, but "unfortunately" the arabic spring occured and Cairo was the center point of it. Cairo is still in turmoils and our foreign department back home recommends us not to go there...

Here is a 3D view of it:



My wish...and shah's tomb

by Siavash300 on

Thanks Maziar. I don't live in NYC or London. I wish I had trip cost. I have dreamt about that trip for a long time. I may be able to do so next year. I have to prepare a nice bouquet of flower for our padeshah before my visit. The nicest flowers in the whole world.


maziar 58

that wish

by maziar 58 on

siavash from nyc or london you can catch a flight R/T for $ 500.00 to cairo just ask the admin. if you can not charge it on your card !!



On the Bright Side SK

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

You know the good part about all these secret executions in America? Fewer Americans.

There’s such balance in nature.


They Need To Give The Secret Service bungee cords...

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

To use on Americans who aren't terrorists and they don't intend to Kill, but this way they can get in a little practice.


I wish I could visit Shah's grave

by Siavash300 on

To travel to Egypt only to visit Shah's grave had been my biggest wish in my life. One day I will do it before I die.

God bless our beloved shah. R.I.P.

Payandeh Iran

Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Welcome back SK

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on


To be honest I do not see how this passes constitutional review. But with the Supreme Court we got anything will get approved. If we get a real Supreme Court they will throw it out.

But to get real it happens all over the world. It used to be in the dark now it is in the open. I don't like it and hope to see it thrown out. It will make is harder to say America is a free and just nation. Politicians shot themselves in the foot.


That the US political system allowed this....

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Not Unlike the NAZI's SS that could kill Germans, what a filthy system of Governance.  This makes the USA worse than the terrorist countries it says it opposes, because in those countries as in the rest of the world, these acts are illegal, its just that IRI goons don't follow their own laws and their is no enforcement due to the corruption of the authorities.  In the USA's case it is such a corrupted country that it can pass laws like this.  You won't be seeing any cranes here, the purpose is not to terrorize the American public, but to get rid of the Americans in Secrecy they feel are their enemies.  The USA doesn't have to make any case that the Americans they feel are enemies can not be dealt with by existing laws. 

Why the need for secrecy and NO public knowledge at any point in time regarding the Americans they kill? We need George Carlin to help heal us, land of the free Home of the Brave Most Idealistic Country In the World.  If it requires a uniform, it’s a worthless endeavor.



by Joubin on

Your statement demonstrates a regrettable lack of understanding about the principles that inform the constitution and government of the United States of America.

We have something called Courts of Law that are designed to determine guilt and apply judicial redress of crimes committed.

"any President Obama or Ron Paul will be faced with challenging dilemmas and be forced to make radical decisions contrary to their election manifestos."

It is not "election manifesto" that he shat on  It was the Constitution and our Civil Rights.

"Ron Paul":




Heard on the grapevine

by Rea on

..... hundreds have been detained already, all are about to hit the cranes.

Happy travel, SK, stay safe.


I would like to add a word

by Simorgh5555 on

I would like to add a word of caution. While the bill and all that it entails appears to be an attack on civil liberties and the US constitution bear in mind that Obama may be privy to security infirmation which is not in the public domain. None of us have the access to sensitive intelligence infirmation which Obama has and therefore go easy on the guy. The type of warfare the US and thE Al Qaida and its off sboots are involved in do not have any clear rules of engagements and demarcations. Terror and Counter Terror are exactly alike and any President Obama or Ron Paul will be faced with challenging dilemmas and be forced to make radical decisions contrary to their election manifestos. Once you are in office you will honestly wish sometimes you never took the job in the first place once you are given a set of information and the weight of the world is on your shoulders to make a decision.
Its like politicians who are forced to make spending cuts. They came into office with a promise not to make cuts in public spending and then when you actually see the amount of the public deficit you are a different politician altogether. You can't remain the same. Circumstances will change you.


Welcome back SK...

by Disenchanted on


     I wonder where in the world one would travel nowadays to lose touch with internet as long as you have?! North Korea? Camp Ashraf? or good old Iran ;-)

happy new year

Maryam Hojjat

Great to hear from you, SK

by Maryam Hojjat on

& Great issue to pay attention.  Happy New Year.


Welcome back SK and happy new year....

by Bavafa on

And indeed, with this law this nation has taken one step back or yet better say, one step closer to the type of regimes of Iran or Saudi Arabia.

Sad for this nation.

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 



The Hilarious thing about the USA is that by electing

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Obama, they elected a constitutional law professor.  And with his impressive Harvard Law Degree he became the worst abuser to which Americans now are saying "Oh No You Can't!" At least Americans are aware that their government doesn't give them real choices, but manipulation and deceit since this president has accelerated Unlawful practices.  Good Luck on being able to sue the government if you have legitimate grievances.  Noam Chomsky ridicules America better than anyone I know.  //rt.com/news/obama-torture-change-killing-10...

Now the US Military for the first time can perform its antics on Americans, Mass detentions etc.  Well Done Barry.  Acting Lawfully?  Who cares! 

The Important point I wish for ALL IRANIANS TO GET AS WE WATCH THE USA is that we need to wait a lot longer before we can ever find a Republic System that can prove itself in terms of Making Democracy work as well as the European Kingdoms have.  Enjoy the video clip.  : ( despite its meaning


شیر پیر و بی یال و کوپال!



مثل اینکه خیلی وارد به مسائل نیستی. گاه گداری به جای غرش بیخودی از تو قفس، توجه به حقایق و جزئیات کن.  


LOL on our Ignorant Iranians Defending this action.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

On taking the USA to court, didn't work for this guy. //www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21205942/ns/us_news-se...


And that is why Iranians need to be clearly aware of certain other Iranians.  The Manipulation is intended to harm you deeply.

Please Stay Safe and Alert with hypocrits at work, like "Mr Hope, Obama"



Happy New Year Soosan Khanoom

by Faramarz on

Welcome back and you were greatly missed.

Although Obama was placed in a tough political spot when he was presented with this bill by the Congress (sign or veto the bill and face the consequences), he used the signing statement to provide assurances that he will interpret the law properly.

“My administration will not authorize the indefinite detention without trial of American citizens...Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a Nation. My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law.”

But to be sure, the country has been on the slippery slope since 9/11 and the civil liberties have been taking hits.


Note: Signing statement is an act by the President that while he signs a bill by the Congress into law, he writes on that bill how he intends to interpret that law and gives himself latitude. This trick has been used by the recent presidents and has yet to be challenged in courts.


What's the big fuss?

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

So what?!?! As George Bush used to say: " If you don't do anything wrong, you don't need to worry about anything!!!"

Sometimes I wish, I lived in the US. Imagine getting illegaly detained and held up, just how much you could sue them for in a court of law!

Is the Dark Humor coming through or do I need a song to add to this?


Mr. President (Have Pity On The Working Man)


Sossani , good to see you back, and a happy one for you y la Familia.



Happy new year to you too soosan khanoom.

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

And yes, thanks, I really needed to hear something to cheer me up good and proper.

Looking forward to your trip report. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Soosan Khanoom

Thank you

by Soosan Khanoom on

Thank you  red wine Aziz ... I also wish you a happy and pprosperous new year : )

and dear Amir ... among many places I travelled within last  two months one was Eygpt .. where I made sure to visit the late Shah's grave ....  I will write more on my trips later .. 

Red Wine


by Red Wine on

امسال دوست و پارسال آشنا...

سالِ  جدیدِ  میلادی،سالِ  ۲۰۱۲،سالِ  اژدها بر شما فرخنده باد.

سلامت و پیروز باشید.

Soosan Khanoom

Our government can now

by Soosan Khanoom on

Our government can now imprison any American it says is a terrorist for as long as it wants, without having to prove anything in court. Said Sen. Al Franken (D-MN):    “What we are talking about here is that Americans could be subjected to life imprisonment. Think about that for a minute. Life imprisonment. Without ever being charged, tried, or convicted of a crime. Without ever having an opportunity to prove your innocence to a judge or a jury of your peers. And without the government ever having to prove your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. I think that denigrates the very foundations of this country.”


I was hoping that one day Iran follows America's democratic laws not knowing that it is the U.S that is walking in the footsteps of IRI and patterning its laws... !!!!  

well we are used to it anyway : )



If the President is given absolute power by law.....

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

And then uses it to detain, torture and kill Americans, does that make him a leader of a democracy, I mean Is that the shinning becon "American So-called Democracy" represents In the world?  Isn't the actual use of absolute Power a quality associated with other forms of government, like dictatorships?  I just adore the Candid & High Integrity based nature of our Late Shah, he told the BBC, you guys write too much and talk too much of your so called democracy and don't work enough.  Truth, Integrity, Wisdom. Khoda Biamorze.(of course he was ridiculing the deceitful and manipulative nature of their concerns for human rights and democracy/ which were his own dreams for Iran)

Shah was great at answering history and by that I mean the hypocrits that accused him of dictatorship. He was asked in another interview if by having "so much" of the powers he had he wouldn't be guilty of causing a folly of grandeur. LOL .... so his response which was no big deal back then, but today a historical Gem was, Yes It might be possible to commit folly, but lets look at my real record, I never invaded Iraq, nor did I invade Afghanistan. Khoda Biamorze just for that timely historical response.

On Hardwork, maybe the shah worked too hard for too many in his country, upon reflecting on some of his peoples actions against him for his efforts.