Soosan Khanoom

Dear VPk

As i mentioned before, there are many here on this site who enjoy your presence and value your thoughts on the various topics..  I encourage you to stay and never give up ..   

Dear SK

I hope you have a very nice trip. I am going to look for other Iranian sites. This one is beginning to be a waste of time. Sure hope better ones are around. Some with more respect for members.

Don't waste your precious time

Ignore him.  

By the way, I got those points that I posted on your blog form a site dedicated to the bullies characteristics in general.   Now only a bully could have found it offensive  .. lol

As i said just ignore him dear VPK and move on.  

SK Jan

It does have to do with the admin. Why would the admin not ignore the bully? All the bully gets to do is ts flag not delete. The admin is the final judge. Please do me a favor and repost it. I could go and start flagging everything the bully posts. It is not that hard. We have some real pieces of work here. Honestly if these gang were to take over they will be worse than IRI. 

As a matter of fact,

Dear VPK.  I may be vanished for a while cause with in a few weeks I am heading for a long anticipated trip overseas .... can't wait and i will write about it for everyone once I am back and of course I will bring lots and lots of pictures to share with all my IC friends on this site. 

: ) 

VPK Jan

What do you expect ? Of course the bully, himself, came and flagged it.... LOL

I am sure he wishes that he could get me vanished instead but in his dreams ... 

It has nothing to do with JJ ... so do not get discouraged and keep on posting.  Just ignore the bullies and move on.  

Dear SK your post on my blog vanished

I don't know what is going on here. But the message appears clear. We are not wanted on IC.

oh come on Siavash

Let it go ... it did not work in the past and it ended up in such a massive uprising .. it won't work again either ... 

RP can nominate himself as the Presidential candidate but that's about it.  one term or two and that is if he gets elected.  Hopefully in the new democratic Iran we will get back on the beaches ... LOL

Siavash

I agree with you that Reza Pahlavi is the best hope. But the issue with RP is self made. Reza Pahlavi just does not seem to have what it takes. He does not do anything. I would support him and other people would..

But he does not organize or rally his people. The other problem is he is a patriot. Western neocon do not want a patriot. They want a stooge to sell out Iran. Reza Pahlavi refused to do so on many occasions.  Therefore they prefer sellout MEK.

SK there is hope, even though it is slim

" it happened and yes we paid a lot afterwards but there was nothing we could do." Soosan Khanoom

I think we can do something and that is supporting prince Reza Pahlavi to take the office. The same life style that you are yearning will get repeated again once Crown Reza takes the office. The same life style our country men/women can enjoy again. Fatima (aka Niloofar) could go out with half way decent Iranian man rather than hang out with Arabs and you can put your bathing suit and jump into the sea while you are listening to Googoosh music.

Funny part is all shah's opponents were from upper middle class families. I was the only one who respected him in my heart. Unlike you, I was from "working class" or "poor family". When I was attending Fadaeyan meetings in Aryamehr university, I noticed a guy who dressed like a che guevara. He took off with a very fansy car at the end of the meeting. Seems Marx made a big mistake when he wrote his book "Das capital".    

Siavash Jan

many of us, especially those who lived a good life during Shah , are yearning for those good old days....  I,myself,lived a rich life . I do anything to go back to the Villa we used to have by the sea in Darya Kenar and just put on my bathing suit jump into the sea while listening to googoosh song being played by radio Draya ...  oh good old days ... but while I was enjoying a luxrous life many were not ... I always think of revolution as a reaction rather than an action . it happened and yes we paid a lot afterwards but there was nothing we could do.  I agree death started to rain on us even more and we lost so many kids not only to the war but also to the various political groups that they fell for and the unspeakable consequences they faced in hands of IRI ... and that is indeed so sad ... 

Dear Siavash

I really understand you and your feelings. My feelings towards Neda are as yours are. But there are distasteful people of all variety among us. For example there is a person who is accusing Reza Pahlavi of giving war secrets to Saddam. Then wants him to be hanged! He is not a part of IRI. Rather he claims to be pro democracy! I just want to tell you so you know there are IRI is not alone. Imagine these guys taking power. The first thing to do will be executions. Just like IRI.

Others on IC are just as intolerant. If they get the upper hand it will be the same thing. I know IRI is evil and I want it gone. But I am adding a note of warning. Just because someone says they are a democrat does not make them good.

Dear VPK I understand your frustration

Accusation and labelling serve two purposes and those who are doing it are well aware .

1) It will eventually wear the wrongly accused person off to the point that he or she will quit posting on this site for ever 

2 ) It will prevent people, who happen to be agree with the accused person on that specific topic, from making any further supportive comment for the fear of being accused themselves.. 

So not only they are getting rid of the wrongly accused person but they also shut everyone up... 

This great bullying tactic is usually used by people who are losing an argument. Otherwise why would they feel the need to label or accuse their opponents?  It is a shame ..

All we need on this site is more brave people to stand up against these bullies rather than joining them.  Cause that behavior is not going to get us anywhere. 

How to deal with enemy of our people.?

Dear SK, 

Whenever I hear the name of "Neda", tears runs in my eyes.

Whenever I hear the brutality, torture and the rape of Taraneh Mousavi the night before her execution, I feel pain in my head.

Whever I hear Sohrab's mother speech, I feel pain in my heart.  I wish I could get my hands on his murder.

I think those are normal feelings of any decent human being.

Now, the question is how to deal with those people who intensify these painful feelings. That includes Fatima (aka niloofar)  abarmard, researcher or anyone in that category.

I remember you were complaining about thousands and thousands of our youths had been killed either in the war or by execution.

I am sure you're smart and understand all these misery happened after shah left the country.

Siavash 

Dear SK

Thank you for the kind words. I was sort of kidding about Yolanda. But the truth is politness is a good thing. When someone sticks their neck out for me I normally say "Thank you". I don't attack them in return.

You are also right about some people on this site. For example I want you to please read this post

//iranian.com/main/2011/sep/freed-hikers-...

Basically the poster is accusing me and others of being Evin guards. Why: because we disagree with him. This is bullying; libel and shows the kind of "democracy" they want. A democracy where opposition means "criminal". Do you think one person on that side stood up for us: no. The only one who said anything was Iraj Khan.  Honestly I don't want their "democracy". I much prefer to sit at a table with you than that crowd of "democrats". 

Dear VPK,

One should only defend  " the truth " and it does not matter if it is spoken by a firend or a foe ... which by the way, I know you do.  Perhaps that is why the usual gangsters are all over you on this site. 

Just take a break and relax . 

Many of us here enjoy your comments on various topics .

I admit my mistake

Once more an Iranian openly admits his mistake with no reservation. In a post here I defended Yolanda just to be attacked by her in another blog. I was wrong to defend her and will not make the mistake again.

Dear Siavash

What you wrote pretty much is general when it comes to power, corruption, politics of running a country under dictatorship and having  brainwashed / no question asked supporters glued to the state TV.   Having said that I should also add, as I have said it many times before, the worst type of dictatorships is the religious ones cause they kill in the name of God and for that mather alone according to them you are not even free after your death but rather spending eternity in hell.   There lies the major difference. 

Anyway, 

Thank you so much for shedding some lights on her personal life ... Still, although she is not my cousin, I think she had the right to be here on this site as much as anyone else. I probably would have gotten myself involved in many discussions and arguments with her cause it seems that we are disagreeing in many things.   

But Siavash, you have a point here and that is not the fact that she can not remember shah ( which by the way for some that era was not as glorious as it was for you) but the fact that she never lived her adulthood In Iran under IRI .... My solution for these type of people is to ship them to Iran , let them live for a while over there and then see if they are saying the samethings or not ... 

thanks for stopping by

: ) 

Please describe the feelings

Dear SK,

How do you feel someone break into your house and murder your child in a cold blood?

How do you feel to learn that the predator sexually assaulted your child prior to murder act.?

How do you feel to learn the predator was my cousin and I come on I.C and brag about my cousin brave act of murdering your child?

please desribe the feelings and then we go to the next chapter of our discussion.

BTW,

Fatima (AKA Niloofar Parsi) was much younger than you. I say at least 10 years. If I am not mistaking you went to Jandark or similar french high school in Tehran, but Fatima spent her teenage time out of Iran. She didn't remember the glorious and modern days of Iran when shah's was on power because of her age, but you do remember those days. She was on payroll by islamic criminal gang when she worked in Iran's embassy in one of those African countries for a while. That was before she started to work with press T.V in London. I also think she was romantically involved with Arabs. I tried my best to educate her when she was writing none sense. We could come up with some agreements if she was willing to continue discussion.  

Sincerely,

Siavash

I thought

I was done with "Truth Seeker" but he won't leave me alone. As for flagging my comment anyone may flag a comment. But it requires a reason. My comment did not have an insult in it. In fact is 100% true and you may see it for yourself. It turns out I made a mistake and incorrectly referred to AE as AO. Here is an example of one of the posts from "Truth Seeker to AnonymousEveryday". 

Anonymous Everyday

he called you Anonymous Observer. he is implying you are multiple ID for someone he has fallen out with on the site. 

Go ahead and flag it! You will be flagging TS's post not mine.

I think so I am! or:

        Sometimes I think, sometimes I am! :-)

        Dear SK, on philosophy I know exactly where you come from. I have been there. Trying to convince myself religion and science are compatible and all kind of good stuff! But I grow out of that the more I learned. I'd like to think you are on the same path.

        At one point I learned I don't need religious morality that comes attached to supernatural and superstitious stuff in order to do the right thing and defend what is just and right.

        If I was writting on IC 15 years ago I'd be another SK or may be NP :-)

Lili jan

I think your space bar is called sick today while is out playing ...lol

It took me a while to read your comment ... how can you even type like that? ... 

; ) 

LOL ...Disenchanted

OK ... i take NP LITE as well NP reincarnated .. lol   but never NP ... by that I mean as the person ...cause swear to God I am not her and i had no idea who even this person was till I get bombarded by this label ...    by the way, I think the 3-4 percent of difference comes when we both enter the Phylosophical discussions    something like I think therefore I am or  i do not think there for I am not      I love talking Philosophy..... it is fun   :) 

Truthseeker

 "prevention of war"  

is totally different than our own struggle or war with the hard liners in Iran..  

We are actually fighting two front lines here ...

One with the people who want to bring war and destruction on Iran  and one with the people who are not willing to join our struggle to achive democracy in Iran....  

I am not sure if we have any choice here but to fight them both rather than choose one over the other ... 

your points are well taken

Thanks  

Soosan Khanom is a good addition to IC

       She is a staunch advocate of Iran's interests with no string attached (Hint: No hidden agenda for Israel, MEK and rest of the garbage :-))

       I disagree with her may be on 3-4% of time. That makes her right on the money 96% of time :-)

       What if she is NP's reincarnation? :-)

        She acted like a "gentle"woman in reviewing NP's previous record on IC before drawing a distinction between herself and her!

VPK jan

Thanks for the highlights and gathering all the factors involved.   Me and you are a good example of standing on a common ground despite of our differences and if everyone would slightly get the idea that what really listening and respect can do then  this place will turn to a peaceful garden of delight ..  

COP

This site is packed with people who only think either my way or highway. People who are filled with certain old ideologies or some left over form their past that they are carrying on their shoulders ... Everyone here seems to have a package regardless of the ideology itself .  It seems that NP was no exception to this rule either. 

We need to get rid of that .. We need to forget the past ... the 70s .. the condition that brough the revolution and in doing so we should not close our eyes to old facts either. 

We need to live in NOW and take it as is and if we are not happy with that IS then by learning from our old failed attempts we need to establish something new and totally different.  A common ground  where every single of us can stand on it.  Which can only be achieved via mutual respect.  And if those who we are disagree with can not achieve that we should achieve that for our own sake. 

Don't forget  that I am not her and Please pay more attention to the reason that why I said I am happy to be mistaken with her which has nothing to do with her ideology.

I am not a socialists or a capitalists or the rest of the different groups anything you name it ... I am not a religion basher neither a religion zealot ...  I am not for this specific person or that specific person .... I simply try to listen to all and choose the best .... something that make sense. 

By the way I was just a kid during revolution so I did not bring anything upon anyone . but i did fall for certain things as i am sure many of us did.   But, now, I have the experience that would not allow me to be anyone's die hard fan cause no one and no system of thoughts is ever so perfect to deserve my soul.

SK,Sista!

NPwascoolwithme,cozIbelieveinPRdemostuff,aslongasnotcriminalactivityand

NPhadagloballefitiejusticeetypeoutlookfloweredwithnationalism,

butwasconstantlyharrassed,reallybadly....

Since,IdontfancyyounorNP,itscoolwithmewhoeveryouare,

butwhoknowsonedayImightgetintomultipleIDICplanetaryalienorgies.

;)

MeyBokhor

I had no idea that there even exists a flat earth society ?  That is sooooo funny 

Thanks a bunch for the link  ... 

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Thank you, T9 and COP, for your great posts! Well-said!

I can't support a regime that hanged a teacher (Farzad Kamangar) and hangs teenagers etc.......