این ضرب المثل خیلی جالبست چون ایرانی است ولی ما فراموشش کردیم و ژاپنیها , اروپایها و آمریکایان به آن عمل میکنند !
وقتی در ایران در یک مهمانی کسی را ملاقات میکنی برای اولین بار اول شغلش را میگوید بعد بیزینسش (با تشدید روی حرف ی) را
اگر از بیزینس منظور تجارت باشه که بد نیست ولی بیشتر اوقات منظور دلالی است. شعار مردم شده
برو دلالی میکن آخه چیست کار که سرما یرا دوبل باید کرد به دلار
دست هر کسی در جیب همسایه است وهمه از هم می چپند تا زندگی میگزرد. یک زمانی سیم کارت تلفن امروز بنزین ماشین
اگر میخواهی جنسی بخری که با کیفیت باشد حتمآ خارجیست. آخرین بار شنیدم فروشنده میگفت آقا خارجیه ساخت ترکیه است!
بقول خاله ام خاک تو سرمون که ترکها هم صنعتشان از ما جلو زد! تنها معجزه فرش است که کیفیت قدیمی خودش را حفظ کرده ولی تا کی ؟
برای جوانها بگم که این مسعله جدید نیست قبل از انقلاب هم بساز و بفروش و پیکان حلبی داشتیم. مسعله اسلام یا غیر اسلام نیست.
وقتی ساختمانهای امروزی را با پلها ی و میدان شاه اصفهان مقایسه میکنم پیش خودم میگم کجا رفتند این ایرانیان
براساس قانونهای اقتصادی معمولی دنیوی هیچکس نمیتواند وضع ایران را توجیه کند! فقط تا وقتی که نفت را به معادله اضافه میکنید و بجواب میرسید
آری نفت ایرانیان را به افرادی تن پرور تبدیل کرده و گذشته مان را به فراموشمان کرده .
کی میگفت ضرب المثل به درد نمیخوره , برو کار میکن که اشکم در آمد ........
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To Faribors Maleknasri M.D.
by Troneg on Tue Dec 11, 2007 06:49 AM PSTDear Faribors,
As you ask me my comment. I'll give you.
My beleive is that it is not about before or after Khomeini. And I could say it is worse after Khomeini Why ?!
There are always been Iranian experts to cure the riche people in Iran.
At first all physiciens you speak about can't work without foreign made medical devices and Iran sell Petrol and need to buy gazol for cars (Benzine) because of lack of equipements !
When somebody has an accident and he is dying, hospitals ask money before to help him. They are more commercial than medecins.
If you are a simple engeener and you want to be cured by theses medecins when you need, you had to to do some DALALI to have money.
So the society don't encourage the Work they help people who have money ! Where this money come !!! What is our exportation !
BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO!!!!!
by Anonymous1 (not verified) on Sun Dec 09, 2007 02:32 PM PSTBRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO!!!!! Right on Target my dear Troneg.
Hajiagha is back!!!
by B-Naam on Sun Dec 09, 2007 01:32 PM PSTHadn't seen him here lately!!!
are this Dr can fix Mullahs brain also
by hajiagha on Sun Dec 09, 2007 01:25 PM PST//hajiagha.tripod.com
far as i know Iranian Mullahs are so crazy for blood and war and punishment and every things bad...they don't have positive brain side , my question why Iranian mullahs having different Brain as others leaders in others country, why they are so negative guy's
REPLY : BORO KAR MIKON..............
by Faribors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:31 PM PSTvery nice to read but - i`m sorry it is not up to date. since 1978/79 is now aera of KHOD BAVARI in IRI. just to get a factual and real description and as an example of what and how things are running and function in IRI to day, please acknowledge the following:
New hopes for patients with spinal cord injury
Dr Hooshang Saberi is a neurosurgeon in Tehran University of Medical Science. Dr Saberi received his MD from Tehran University, where he also trained in neurosurgery and graduated in 1995.
He also passed a one-year course in anatomy and then received an MPH in epidemiology from Tehran University of Medical Science. He is now the deputy head of the Brain and Spinal Injury Repair Research Center (BASIR).
The extent of Dr. Saberi's contribution to public health is reflected in the number of the patients he has treated and the nature of their diseases, besides his papers. Dr Saberi has also put together a skilled research team that has performed the Schwann cell transplantation and spinal cord repair for the first time in Iran.
Q- During the recent months, many have heard the name of Dr Hooshang Saberi as the initiator of the 'spinal cord repair' project in Iran. As the leader of the team which, have make a breakthrough in repairing spinal cord injuries for the first time in Iran, could you tell us about the project and specially your role?
A. I was the director of the research team. The project was aimed at evaluating the role of the Schwann cell transplantation in improvement of neurological functions in spinal cord injuries. In the project, we set a series of criteria for selecting patients. We also performed tissue harvest, intramedullary transplantation of Schwann cells, and neurosurgical follow-up.
Q. How did you get interested in the subject and how did you eventually choose this field for research?
A. We had seen the suffering of the patients with spinal cord injuries during our practice; the impact of the condition on the life of the patients is so profound that necessitates such works.
Q. How did you get started in this project? Tell us about the steps you had taken to achieve today's success.
A. The capability of the peripheral nervous system to repair may be due to the role of Schwann cells. On the contrary, spinal cord lacks such capability. This prompted us to launch a research to find out if Schwann cells could do the same in the spinal cord.
Previous works had highlighted the role of the peripheral nervous system in the repair mechanisms of the CNS and then we tried to prove the hypothesis experimentally and reproduce the repair process.
Afterwards, we conducted a preliminary study in human subjects with spinal cord injuries, the good results of the study promoted us to conduct the phase 2 treatments.
Q. Is this operation performed routinely in other developed countries?
A. As far as we know, cell therapy for spinal cord injuries is performed in Russia, China, and Germany. They are not routine procedures and somehow experimental.
Q. Could you provide us some statistics to let us know the extent of the researches on this subject, for example the number of operations performed and etc.?
A. The success rate for the procedure is variable and about 60 percent; so far, we have been able to treat about 60 patients.
Q. And our country, where does it stand?
A. I think we are the third country which has started using this technique.
Q. Is your technique the same as what is performed in other countries?
A. Absolutely not, there are major differences. Russian researchers have performed this operation using olfactory OEC and stem cells; on the other hand, the Chinese has studied the effect of embryonic cell (stem and OEC cells) which was completely different to our technique in which we have used Schwann cells.
In other words, our country is the first which have used Schwann cells to treat spinal cord injuries. It should be noted that an Australian researcher have reported the safety of Schwann cell transplantation in four cases.
Q. How many patients have undergone such an operation in your center so far?
A. About 60 cases.
Q. And what was your success rate?
A. About 60 percent overall.
Q. What factors influence the outcomes of the treatment?
A. The most important factor is choosing the appropriate candidate.
Q. Are there any criteria for selecting the suitable patients or predicting the success of the transplantation?
A. Yes, of course. There are two crucial factors:
- Spinal cord lesions should be limited to less than 10 mm
- The pattern of muscular impairment should indicate an upper motor neuron involvement
- Other criteria include: the absence of ferromagnetic artifacts on MRI scan, no evidence of axonal degeneration in electrodiagnostic studies and, the patient should not have an atonic bladder.
Q. Is the time of injury a critical factor?
A. It seems that the more chronic the lesion the less would be the success rate but there is no close correlation.
Q. Is the patient's age decisive too?
A. Yes, patients younger than 50 years do better.
Q. Is this operation also helpful in those with congenital spinal lesions?
A. Although those with congenital spinal cord disorders may need surgery, this type of treatment is not suitable for them.
Q. Are there any specific complications reported following the operation?
A. Transient pain is very common but wound infection is rare. Only one case had temporary neurological deterioration. There was no case of tumor formation or viral infections.
Q. What were some of the most rewarding and/or challenging moments you experienced in your work?
A. The most rewarding was observing the recovery of motor functions and urinary control in our first patient who was a war veteran; the most challenging was waiting to see the first signs of improvement.
Q. What encourage you to continue the research?
A. The need of patients to receive treatment and the joy of seeing a patient happy after neurological functions begin to improve.
Q. In your opinion what would be the next breakthrough in this field? Where would we stand over the next ten years?
A. the treatment of the lesions of more than 10 mm in length has been promising, requiring vigorous investigation and research. Also, minimizing the costs and optimizing the procedure are our main challenges. I hope we could develop the technique further, and propagate it worldwide.
Q. And now could you give some advice to the young physicians who are willing to be involved in this field of research?
A. I invite them to contact the Brain and Spinal Cord Injury Research Center (BASIR), they would be welcomed.
Q. What do you see as the challenges young physicians/researchers face?
A. I think at the beginning this task may appear cumbersome and somehow impossible, they should not give up.
Q. What specific goals would you recommend the young physicians/researchers set for themselves? Any suggestions about how to achieve them?
A. In medical research in particular, I recommend them to focus their efforts on their patients' welfare.
These are the words which shortly after revolution were said about stand of art of curing in Iran: the medical college of tehran university is the oldest colleg in iran. But stil when somebody goes to a physician to get cured she/he became the advise: you have headaches you must go to france, you have chestpain you must go to britain...........and so on and so on. Today come the strangers to IRI to get cured. specially from moslem countries and more specially from Turky. and IRI has achieved the position of a selfprovider in nearly all subjects of daily life. Egypt for example buys wheat from IRI. these examples are endless and - i am really sorry but your interpretation of the speech appleis only to pre-khomeini-aera, is not up to date. i say your interpretation not YOU. Greeting. Post a comment