Regime change; democracy and high horse

Veiled Prophet of Khorasan
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan
26-Dec-2011
 

People have been debating what is good for and what is going on in Iran. Is there intervention; is it desirable and what is good. Do we want democracy? Where does Reza Pahalavi fit in.

I welcome you ALL to post here and share your thoughts in a polite and civil manner. 

My own thoughts are intervention is happening right now.

Therefore it is not a question of if but how. Do we get to impact it and if so how. 

To me these are the priorities:

* A strong and intact Iran.

* A secular state.

* Freedom and guaranteed rights for all.

* Iran so attractive to stop the brain drain and get parts of diaspora to return.

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* A strong an vibrant economy.

Not so important are:

* Actual form of government: Monarchy; Republic or whatever as long as it is free and respects our rights.

* Getting all the oil and gas wealth. We should be working not living off goo pumped out of ground.

* Independence whatever that means because I don't think any nation is really independent.

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RPhobia

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I want to coin a new phrase: RPhobia: a fear of Reza Pahlavi. Mostly in Islamists goons of IRI who see RP as a catalyst to bringing them to justice.

This is different from hatred of RP which is more among Mossadeg supporters. They have nothing to worry about and are not to be confused with the former.

One day big bad RP is gonna get the Islamists :=> 


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Bacheshirazi, I agree with you

by Maryam Hojjat on

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My favorite part

by Rastin on

"Not so important are: ... Getting all the oil and gas wealth. We should be working not living off goo pumped out of ground."

I couldn't have said it better myself. The only sustainable resource a country has is its people. 

 

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by BacheShirazi on

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I am with you, VPOK

by Maryam Hojjat on

I like particularly this one:

Actual form of government: Monarchy; Republic or whatever as long as it is free and respects our rights.