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Fred
by Fred
11-Oct-2012
 

به این ارقام منتشر شده توسط نظام نکبت مسلمین "اصلاح طلب" و غیره نگاه کنید:

"طی ۵ ماه ابتدای سال جاری ١۵٫۷٠٠ خودروی خارجی به ارزش ٣۴١ میلیون دلار که ۷٨ درصد آن با ارز دولتی و سال گذشته ۴٠٫٠٠٠ دستگاه به ارزش ٨٣٠ میلیون دلار و ٨۶ درصد آن با ارز دولتی وارد شده.

در چهار ماه و نیم اول امسال ١۷ تا ٢۵ میلیارد دلار ارز به نرخ مرجع در اختیار کسانی قرار گرفت که رانت اقتصادی حدود ٢۰ هزار میلیارد تومانی برایشان ایجاد شد."

این روزها که تحریم خرید نفت و انتقال پول بدست مسلمین حاکم ایرانی کُش و ایران ویران کُن با ۳۴ سال "اقتصاد مال خر" و اختلاس های میلیارد دلاری دارد وارد فاز گزنده میشود، انساندوستی لابیگران نفت آلود، اسلامیستها/یهود ستیزان هار و چپولان همفکر دست آموز آنان گُل کرده.

البته همین نازنینان نو- اومانیست شده، زیاد نگران جنگ طلبی، غارت ثروت، توحش و فقر تحمیل شده به ایرانیان توسط نظام نکبت مسلمین نیستند که داغ و درفش و کهریزکی میکند، طبقه متوسط را از بین برده و باعث فقر سیاه و نیاز به کلیه و تن فروشی مرد و زن و کودک ایرانی شده، اصل در سایۀ ادای ضدیت با امپریالیسم و جنگ، جوش دادن "معامله بزرگ" است و بقای نکبت، مابقی منجمله حال و روز ایران و ایرانی اصلاً مطرح نیست.

تنها راه رهایی، تلاش بی امان برای سرنگونی کلیت حاکمیت مسلمین، "اصلاح طلب" و غیره است و لا غیر.

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Arj

Re Socialism and Zionism

by Arj on

Dear Zendanian, I beg to differ with you (albeit at the peril of setting myself up as the target of character assassination by the pro-Israel lobby here) with regards to your associating Socialism and Zionism. Please. bear in mind that my point here is not to challehge your (or anyone else's) support for Zionism (for it's your personal opinion, hence your prorogative) or even Zionism itself, for it's a belief like any other that its followers have the right to adhere to! But as a Socialist, I feel it's my duty to point out some nuances here.   

One of the main tenets of Socialism is seeing peoples of all stripes in the same light regardless of racial, religious or ethnic distinctions rather than in regard to such differences! Hence, Zionism as a faith-based ideology, which sees a certain group of people (due to their faith as well as ethnicity) as chosen by god, can not be associated with the egalitarian ideals of Socialism!  

That said, I totally agree with you with respect to the right of the Jewish people to live in their country, Israel that is, and enjoy the universal rights as any other sovereign nation. However, being a Socialist and recognizing the right of Jewish and the entire Israeli nation to sovereignty does not tantamount to equating and/or associating Socialism with Zionism!


Roozbeh_Gilani

Read Zendanian's comment on "Anti zionism" and "anti Jewishism"

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

Perfect!

And where is that "I like it a lot" comment when we ned it here? 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


Anonymous Observer

That's OK, SK, you can flag comments that challenge your

by Anonymous Observer on

false representations here.  And I really don't know why they were deleted, since they didn't contain any personal attacks or profanity.  

But that does not take away from the fact that you have yet to present evidence to us that show: 1) that Stalin was Jewish; 2) Stalin had three wives and a mistress--all of whom were Jewish (and that's why he should be considered Jewish), and 3) how his supposed Jewishness played a role in his "committing atrocities on earth."  As a student of history, I am very interested in studying those historical events.  Please provide links to those sources.  

 


Dr. Mohandes

Soosan khanoom

by Dr. Mohandes on

Thanks for those honorable mentions of me in your ...well...shall we say mini-blog. so what was the point of the blog? was it in chinese or taiwanese? please nex time make sure u type in english and not in "merikhi" not nice. I must say, for a distinguished researcher, hat you claim to be, u leave a lot to be desired and certain classes would sure need to be repeated. Why don't you have a go at it and then come here and blah blah about rasputin...oh sorry...stalin, whom you seem to have a crush on. 

anywho, yours truly can get excited just by seeing your comments and trying to decipher the intellectual depth of each and everyone of them, oh baby, that is enough excitment to get me going for a month. of course if you wanna know more we can always have our own blog, you and me and go over some stuff.  

Of course when i see such erudite and to the point and accurate commenst as those of AO and sometimes fesenjoon and faramarz...i don't just excited sweet cheeks, i call that non-propaganda and educational blogs.

At least when they bring something up about someone or a particular topic they have plenty evidence to back it up, and don't go suicidal trying to make a point...unlike you! who  every now and then throws one accusation after the other as to who is being whose voice, and propaganda chief on this site.

Okie dokie artichokie? 

 


Soosan Khanoom

AO. You mentioned so being a Jew is a disease I said no .

by Soosan Khanoom on

I am not going to repeat myself cause at the same sentence I also mentioned muslim.. Did i also mean Stalin committed attrocities because he was Muslim? I answered to a general question ..and I meant in general.  Look at BiBi and VF. ... Stalin did commit attrocities as well but in the name of communism. He had no religion.

If you read my other comments, I said he did not even care about Jews despite him being one..  All he cared was to get his hands on the nuke info.  He killed many people why on earth he let the Jews go then? .. Like all of a sudden he felt sorry for them or all of a sudden he believed in bible and it's 5000 years old story.    It does not make sense.   It was only because of the deal he made by which Russia also accepted Israel as a nation...  By the way, he had three wives and one mistress all Jew. so it was not like he fell for a Jew once... Or who knows, perhaps he had preferences  or would fall easily for Jewish girls. ..lol.   But those women were political activists as well ...  You  may argue that he was not a Jew by birth .. you may be right on that ..  There are many who suggest he was not Jew...  But there are also some who argue that in addition to marrying Jewish women, he was also Jew by birth.. There are evidences that he was born one and he had a Jewish name which he changed later.  Now him being Jew was only brought up because as I said him even being one had no major effect. He did not care about Jews as a religion.  It was all about the deal Russia made in exchange with the nuke info. So Russia was among the first to recognize Israel... Stalin murdered almost anyone he could and he destroyed all the places of worships regardless ... At the same time he let many Jews migrate out of Russia freely while anyother group didnt have a passport to even go sightseeing the world. That was not just during his time cause for years after him this was a case in Russia.. Russian citizens were not allowed to leave the country ...

Now, as Ayat mentioned in his blog do not confuse yourself and the readers. You may get Dr. Mohandes so excited but then that won't work further than that... 

I will write a blog on this topic whenever I get a chance.  I don't want to have Fred's blah blahs blog here get more attention that I initially intended to give.  

Come prepared and bring your cheer leader, Dr M , too  

See you in that blog.  Well .. Whenever I actually bother to write it.     Besides,  I can not really type more tonight with my annoying IPhone and its rediculous autocorrect mood ...

:)  


Dr. Mohandes

AO

by Dr. Mohandes on

Blew it out of the water yet again there big buddy.

dude, you are a natural anti-jew hunter. how do you manage to so smoothly and flawlessly carry such operation in the finest and dandiest of manners??

are we dealing with a case of "roghan soozi" on part of some of our most precious and valuable contributors that end up throwing everything but the kitchen sink at ya and when it all fails it is funny how it is always a phone call or a meeting they must absolutely attend:))

I think we should call up a hollywood crew to come and film the new season of "saved by the meeting" series.

 

good work there mr. detective and ...i think it is time we took SK and show her around the tel Aviv area a little bit.


Anonymous Observer

Former congressman Anthony Weiner, Jew or Muslim?

by Anonymous Observer on

He's a Jew who married a Muslim.  Does that make him a Muslim by your standards?

And how exactly did Stalin use his supposed Jewishness (even though neither him nor any member of his family were Jewish) to commit atrocities?  

PS- the most famous atrocity that was committed by Stalin was against ....wait for it.....a communist Jew--Trotsky, whom he murdered by having one of his goons insert a hammer into Trotsky's skull!!!!  How about that for Jewish / communist / conspiracy cluster....k?  Now please feel free to come up with a Jewish conspiracy for that event as well. :-) 

BUt again, please tell us: 1) exactly how Stalin was a Jew, and 2) how exacty did he use that supposed Jewishness as a "tool to commit atrocities on earth?" 


Dr. Mohandes

Soosan khanoom joon

by Dr. Mohandes on

It is for ur own good sweety. it will calm you down. i think i have a fairly good idea as to what might have taken place in here, but like i said it good for you.

You have been seen walking around making too much noise around here and i don't think anyone is particularly pleased with it.

so shhhhh...grab a glass of bacardy and get some sleep.

and shhhhhhh....

 


default

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by Shepesh on

Have a nice productive meeting.


Soosan Khanoom

No AO. Being Jew or Muslim is not a disease.

by Soosan Khanoom on

But being political and use religion as a tool to commit attrocities on earth is a disease  ...  

Now I really have to get out of here.  I am running late for a meeting... Keep re-reading my comments till you get it right.  Say my hi to apple pie ;)  


Anonymous Observer

I see--so being Jewish then is kind of like a disease... :-)

by Anonymous Observer on

Even though the guy is an Orthodox Christian who becomes an atheist, if he marries a Jewish woman he should automatically be considered a Jew--for the purposes of Jew bashing and Jew paranoia, of course.  I have to say, not even in the white supremacist circles one finds this type of Jewish cosnpiracy theory culture and this kind of paranoia about Jews. Congrats for taking it to a whole other level!  

Incidentally, neither one of Stalin's two wives were Jewish.  The first one was a Georgian Christian whom he actualy married in a church, and the second one was also of Georgian ancestory.  He killed her, BTW.  

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekaterina_Svanidze

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadezhda_Alliluyeva

PS- You know who else considered communism to be a Jewish conspiracy?  Reay for it?  I'll give you a hint: our [blocked] friend Immortal Guard was fascintaed by, and always used to always talk about, his square moustache. He also ruled Germany from 1933-1945.  


Soosan Khanoom

My very first comment on this blog got flagged

by Soosan Khanoom on

Sorry to offend you guys aka sarbazan e imam Fred .. I am going to post a PG 13 comment instead. Please feel free to flag this one too if you are still offended... I can always dilute that specific word to suit ypur so called kind, sweet and polite tone... . LOL 

 

Fred, seeks starvation and war on the entire Iranian nation..

Yet we are here arguing his manner and degree of politeness.!!!  That is actually laughable..   It is like telling someone who is determined to see you suffered and / or get killed to please be polite. !!!  This character who is the BIBI'S propaganda machine on this site , Is Making Love to all of you and you just want him to be polite!!!   What's wrong with you !! 


Soosan Khanoom

Vildemose can you write something without letting your ego

by Soosan Khanoom on

to get hold of you ?   I don't know what NIAC has done to you, but whatever it is,  it has also made you too delusional.  Besides, I thought you are done interfering with my comments ...   But you are back seeking attention.  Well this blog is all yours and your supporters..after all the blogger is your favorite blogger of all time.. 

Fake antiwar, racists and anti Semitic people like me should get the hell out of here .. 

In any case, I  have said enough for those who can actually hear and think honestly ...


vildemose

Pure racism

by vildemose on

zendanian: Good job of peeling away at the right-wing religious racist veneer of fake anti-war brigade

Anti-zionism  works because it allows them to deny racism while at the same time playing on fears of “reverse racism” .

This particular racism is wrapped in "pro-palestianin" and anti-war sentiments.  There is little 'peace' conviction or concret actions toward peace behind the effort of this group of faux anti-war lobby. 

Talks of peace between IRI and Israel and Palestinians are nowhere to be seen because this group is inherently racist/supremacist (religious supreamcists)–just like those they complain about. 

Israel loves IRI and their lobbyists. Imagine if IRI stopped the warmongering against Israel?? All attention will be given to  Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians.

In the meantime, Israel uses IRI's fake nuclear issue as  a cover to take more palestinians lands.

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir


anglophile

امان از چپ پوشالی و میلیون قلّابی

anglophile


هرچند بقول جناب فرد تاریخ مصرف این مکاره فروشان سالهاست که به پایان رسیده.


Soosan Khanoom

Tell that shame to those who bring BiBi agenda to this site.

by Soosan Khanoom on

We are fighting in two fronts.  One BIBI and one VF. Shame on those who are silent to the threat of any of these two devils... Like there is a choice for us to pick one .. Either way we are doomed.  


Soosan Khanoom

Haven't you heard of "Bolshevik Jews"

by Soosan Khanoom on

Although He was by marriage but one  can argue that he was not by birth... But the rest of the Bolsheviks were and those who weren't, as i said , were always surrounded by active Jewish wives or mistress.   Very much politically ACTIVE ones.   And no this has nothing to do with the religion but the politics. 

...  


Anonymous Observer

My goodness, now Stalin was Jewish?!!!

by Anonymous Observer on

Of all the Jewish conspiracies on this site....The guy went to a Georgian Orthodox Christian seminray for Pete's sake.  

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

This whole Jew paranoia thing is getting out of control here... shame... 

//iranian.com/main/blog/anonymous-observer/iranian-com-david-duke-or-storm-front-0

 


Soosan Khanoom

Zendanian, i asked a question and referred the answer

by Soosan Khanoom on

to the historical facts and I also gave date.. I said that specifically for Fred to take note rather than getting to any argument  with anyone specially you whom I have no disagreement on most cases. ..

I am not here to discuss Jews or their rights cause that will get us to the Word " Palestine"  which, thanks to IRI,  everyone on this site is having an allergy to.  

Fred mocks leftis  while the founder fathers of Israel sold nuclear technology to them at the expense of Palestanian people ...not even mention the creation of the cold war and many attrocities that happened afterwards...

Stalin killed many , even though he was a Jew , I do not think so he even cared about them as much as he wanted that Nuclear Tecqnology...  

Of course Russia has changed ... They are not much into the full commitment towards Zionism as they used to be.  But it will change as soon as their banking system changes.  Then they have no choice but to abide.. It is not about the promised land.  It is all about the promised Gold...  


shahrvand2

جناب فرد

shahrvand2


از پاسخ شما ممنونم. قصد من به هیچ وجه طولانی کردن این مقوله نیست ولی به یک نکته دیگر باید اشاره شود و ان اینکه من و شما دهخدا و معین نیستیم که برای واژه ها معنی و مفهوم تعریف کنیم. مرحومان معین و دهخدا هم البته برای تالیف فرهنگ به مردم رجوع میکردند و از خود چیزی نمی ساختند. معنی واژه آنست که در ذهن خواننده مجسم میشود و هوشیاری نویسنده از این جهت لازم است.
Thank you Arj and Call Me Red for your kind comments and regards to Zendanian for the historical notes


Zendanian

Most "anti-Zionism" in only a cover for anti-Jewish propaganda

by Zendanian on

Bibi might be an animal (actually he's much worse than a poor animal, he's a human being who is a politician) but he is correct in stating that: What opponents of Israel really mean by "destruction of the Jewish state,"is another Holocaust.*

All this rhetoric of "bloody occupation" is very tired and one-sided. What you can not explain is the fact that:

- more Palestinians have been killed by other Arab states, than Israel.

- And why is it that some 400 million Arabs can not over come 7 million Jews? 

Stalin was a bloody murderer and made many mistakes that ultimately resulted in the demise of the first workers' state of the world. The decision to recognize the rights of Jewish people to live in peace after a Holocaust* was probably one of his few correct decisions. Robert Oppenheimer (theoretical physicist genius) and many other individuals like him leading the  Manhattan Project had no Zionist affiliation, and by today's standards would be considered hard core socialists. When USSR had such a significant support base right inside the Manhattan Project, it did not need to play in UN for "secrets"

--------------------------

* Not related to MM's " Hollo Koos!!!" 


Soosan Khanoom

Zendanian. We can discuss zionists & Jewish community later

by Soosan Khanoom on

Just to let you there is a huge difference between these two. I brought up Russia Just for us to pay attention to the real reason.    The real reason was the nuclear bomb secrets ; that was secretly given to Russia by a Zionist  -American in exchange of having Russians to recognize their bloody occupation.  It has nothing to do with the GOD or Marx Or even Budha...

I am also for peace , I do not care anymore how they captured that land. I think it is time for making peace not more wars and it is time for U.S to have that red line Being drawn for BIBI.   BIBI is a wild animal. He needs to be contained.  

 


Zendanian

Let's not confuse the issues in here.

by Zendanian on

Zionism itself originated from a Socialist tradition, started by Mosses Hess, who used to be Marx's teacher. Karl used to call Hess "the Communist Rabbi." Almost half of the streets in Tel Aviv are named after Hess. Most Israelis don't know who that name refers to.

Zionism as a form of Jewish nationalsim has as much legitimacy as Arab Nationalsim, Turkish Nationalism, Persian Nationalism,..

Russia in 1948 used to be USSR, and as much limitations and mistakes it had, recognizing the right of Jewish people to live in peace with others in that region (USSR's main motivation) was not a limitaiton or a mistake.

Today the protest movements within Israel are begining to slowly but surly make a return to the egalitarian origins of Zionism; living in peace with their Muslim nieghbors. That, is a good thing.

Please recall, all those anti-War Israeli demonstrators, actively camping and demonstrating in front of Bibi's house against an attack on Iran, are also Zionist as well.

They're OUR Zionists, if you will. 


Soosan Khanoom

By the way Fred , supports some leftis

by Soosan Khanoom on

After all Russia was the first country to accept Isreal as a nation.   Check out the events prior to  May 1948 to figure out why Russia was the first among all other nations ???  Haha...  these sneaky Zionoist.  They are still on their sneaky mood...


Zendanian

امید بستن به "اتحاد" با نیروهای غیر دموکراتیک در سرنگونی ج.ا.!!!

Zendanian


امید بستن به "اتحاد" با نیروهای غیر دموکراتیک در سرنگونی ج.ا. سرابی بیش نیست
سلطنت طلبان افراطی نیروهای هستند که هنوز هیچ نشده شمشیر از رو بسته و خواهان قلع و قمع تمامی مخالفان خود میباشند.
از رفتار ومنش  حزب اللهی در تظاهرات ضد رژیم در سوئد.
تا همکاری با فاشیستهای افراطی ( باز هم در سوئد).
تا سخره کردن و مردود شمردن تمامی نیروهای ملی، چپ و مذهبی.
تمامی این گونه برخوردها نشانگر این حقیقت است که طیف سلطنت طلب هنوز در آرزوی جامعه تک حزبی "رستاخیز فاشیستی"، با سازمان حقوق بشری به نام ساواک میباشد.
همان قدر که در مبارزه علیه رژیم شاه، اتحاد با خمینی به جنبش آزادیخواهانه و برابری طلبانه مردم صدمه زد و نهایاتا آنرا از بین برد.
هر گونه اتحاد با سلطنت طلبان انحصار طلب، ضد-دمکراتیک، متحد فاشیستها امروزی، نتایج مشابهی (شکست جنبش آزادیخواهانه، برابری طلب مردم ایران) را به دنبال خواهد داشت.     

CallmeRed

Shahrvand 2,

by CallmeRed on

کاملا موافقم. و شگفت زده ازینکه نگارنده این مطلب عصبانیت بهرام مشیری را ضد اصول دموکراسی میداند اما فحاشی لفظ قلمی را جایز میداند!!ا

 


Arj

رسوبات خرده فرهنگ بسیجی/شعبان بیمخی!

Arj


دوست گرامی‌ شهروند۲؛ با سپاس از بیانات معقولانه شما، متأسفانه همانطور که از لحن لمپن مآبانهٔ این بلاگ پیداست، ما به عنوان یک ملت (و حتا بسیاری از ما که دهه‌ها در غرب زیسته ایم) هنوز با ادبیات و روحیه دمکراتیک که تحمل حق وجود نظرات مغایر (هر چند که با آنها مخالفت اساسی‌ داشته باشیم) از اصول بنیادین آنست, بیگانه‌ایم. گرچه در این بلاگ بطور روزمره شاهد ریختن اشک تمساح برای قربانیان جنایات رژیم دیکتاتوری اسلامی (از جمله اعدامیهای دهه شصت و بسیاری از زندانیان و اعدامیهای امروزی که بر پایه دیدگاه تنگ نظرانه این بلاگ "چپولان، علی‌ گیج‌های ملی‌-مذهبی‌"و بعضا "  وحوش اصلاح طلب" محسوب میشوند) هستیم، ولی‌ در عین حال نیز شاهد توهین و فحاشی به همین دگر اندیشانی که از نظر ایدئولوژیک مورد تایید نگارندهٔ این بلاگ نیستند، هستیم!

این گونه ادبیات و برخورد کوته  بینانه، نه تنها کمکی‌ به دمکراتیزه شدن جو سیاسی ایران امروز و فردا نمیکند، بلکه همانگونه که شما هم گوشزد کردید، باعث ایجاد تفرقه و به حاشیه راندن بسیاری از اقشاری که مورد حمله این گونه دیدگاه‌های منسوخ و مستبدانه، که هنوز از انجماد جهان بینی‌  جنگ سرد رنج میبرند، میشوند.

آیا این نگاه مغرضانه (و شاید ساده لوحانه)، که با سقوط رژیم اسلامی کنونی دگر اندیشی‌ و تعدد آرا از میان رفته و همه یکسان و مثل "ما" خواهند اندیشید، ریشه در دموکراسی‌ خواهی‌ دارد یا گرایشات شبه فاشیستی؟

در حقیقت آینده ایران (چه نیل به دموکراسی‌ باشد و یا استمرار استبداد) بستگی به این دارد که آیا ملت ما (که شامل همه خارج نشینان هم میشود) پاسخ قانع کننده‌ای به این پرسش خواهیم یافت، یا اینکه هنوز اسیر افکاری که آحاد جامعه را به "خودی" و "غیر خودی" تقسیم می‌کند خواهیم بود! 


Fred

shahrvand2

by Fred on

پیشتر عرض شده و بار دیگر میشود که چپول با چپ فرق دارد، چپول ترجمه ادای چپ را در می آورد و  قزمیت هم  حرف "درشت"  نمیباشد همانطور که اتومبیل قزمیت حرف درشتی نیست.

 تاریخ مصرف ضدیت با " امپریالیسم" از نوع ایندست چپولان ترجمه خیلی وقت است که گذشته و قزمیت شده.

ادا اطوارهای این چپولان نتنها مورد بهره برداری وحوش حاکم بر ایران میشود( بله آنهاییکه زن، مرد و کودک را مثله و کهریزکی میکنند، وحوش هستند) بلکه, خوراک تبلیغاتی برای نقشه های بد خیم دست راستی های افراطی  تهیه میکنند. 


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جناب فرد

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با کمال احترام این نکته باید خدمتتان عرض شود که بکار بردن الفاظ درشتی مانند چپول و قزمیت نه تنها تفرقه ایجاد میکند و گروهی از دوستان ما را میرنجاند، برای بیان مطلب نیز لزومی ندارد. حتی به گمان من توجه خواننده را از معنی و مفهوم مورد نظر منحرف میکند. در عین حال به سادگی میتوان نشان داد که ۳۴ سال پیش بر سر کار آمدن واپس گرایان دینی گناه یک گروه و یک ایدولوژی خاص نبوده است و دلایل متعدد داشته است. همواره باید به خاطر سپرد که ایران یک ایران است و متعلق به همه ماست. روا داری عقیدتی و دینی و تمرین دیگر پذیری میتواند از همین جا آغاز شود و البته همکاری همگان لازم است.


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Are these sanctions hurting average Iranians or not?

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