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Iranians, are we a peace loving people?
17-Jan-2012
Actually I am confused now, since what I see at iranian.com, is a complete wilde land of non-sene ! Are we really for peace and freedom? Or we are just here for the sake of arguing and putting down the other people?
I am very sick now and just come back from the hospital. When I turned on the PC and came to the site, I got frightened.
So much absurdities! So much hysteria, over what?
It seems that some of the bloggers here, need really to make their head get examined. At least, take your pills before coming to the site and writing your non-sense.
Enough is enough!
Either try to understand how to debate with the people, or stay out of the kitchen.
Let see what is going on.
Some people are here only for a political agenda.
Some others are here to talk and learn about politics , only.
Some people, are interested only to art and litterature, and stay away from other topics.
Some others, have an idea about almost everything, without being too passionate about politics, but want also to exchange their ideas in that matter.
The thing is, the ones who are engaged only in political debates, believe falsely, that they are "expert" in that domain!
If they hear an oppositing view, they resort to : insult, propaganda, lies, accusation, humiliation.......etc , etc. Hence the "hysteria" mount!
People, get reall:
1) You are nothing but the pure observants, residents of the west! You are not the opposition force against Iran. Because you are here 24/7 writing for a bunch of readers who are like yourself. You have plenty of time, but you use it in this site instead of doing something more substential. Nobody blame you! You are free to spend your time, as you wish. Like I do. But don't take yourself so seriously!
2) You are against the regime? Fine.
Some people are "for" this regime, like it or not. Some others, are only against some aspects of the regime. This, belongs to every person. Hence : democracy! I bet it doesn't sound nice to you! Does it? You can't say to someone : Now I know your true color, because you say that you do agree with the regime, but then you had said at that time that you were against the regime! This shows only the depth of your ignorance!
Open your eyes! There exist people who are different than you, who think differet than you, who have the same right to express their views, as much as you do! Here it's me:
1) I personally, am for the enrichment of uranium! Yes, I am.
2) I personally, am against terror, of any kind, by any group, against anyone!
3) I personally, condemn the military attack of Iraq by the Americans
4) I personally, condemn the military attack of Afghanistan by the Americans
5) I personally, condemn the attack of 9/11 by the Islamists
6) I peronally, condemn the atrocities of Israel against the Palestinians
7) I personally, condemn the arrest and torture and execution of our freedom fighters in Iran, by the IRI
And the list goes on!
See? in my list, there are both "For" and "Against" votes for the IRI, there are "For" and "Against" votes for the Islamists. But, nothing "FOR" the American military attack to no-where, and nothing "FOR" the Israeli government.
You don't like it? You think I am hypocrite? Deal with it!
There are plenty of people in Iran, who think exactly like myself in this regard.
Go call them the "opportunists" the "hypocrites" the "paid agents" the "enemies "...attack them, kill them, do whatever you want to them! But face the truth:
This, is your country!
This, is your people!
You can't stay here, writing hysteria, and believing in yourself, for an eternity!
You are not even a professional, a mature activist.
When you get irritated, you resort to name calling, moking the age and physical conditions of your opponent! What a low level partisan of democracy! Shame!
You get so much excited about the killing of a human being, you blame others for not participating in your party, accusing them of being for the regime!
It is so simple for you to launch accusation, because it makes your life easier! This way you don't have to face the truth! You don't loose face in front of your fans!
Terror and killing for political reason, is condemned in democracy! Deal with it!
The same way you judge the people, with a "black or white" sword, the same way they do this you : Are you really for democracy or not?
You can't justify the terror of a scientist (which you always call only a Bassiji, just to legalize his murder ) by saying that in Nuremberg, they didn't accept the defence like : He was doing his job!
Really?!!!
But Nuremberg was a real court!
For your records, there were people, accused of "crime against the humanity" who were STILL heard and given a chance to defend themselves!
Learn the history! Understand it!
Don't cut and paste it to your own interest!
You can't kill someone on the street, just like this , only because you SUSPECT that he is doing something against the humanity (which he has not done yet). Just because you THINK, that he MIGHT be plotting something against the humanity, doesn't justify his terror.
You never believe in the IRI newspapers and information, but in this particular case, you take everything that is mentioned about him, by the IRI Media, just because it serves your purpose?
This is not a court! This is a kangaroo court!
And you call yourself the freedom fighters?
And you accuse and humiliate people who condamn such inhuman act?
And you call yourself the millitant for democracy?
I have a valuable a piece of advice for you : Take it easy!
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Thank you gitdoun
by Souri on Tue Jan 24, 2012 08:03 AM PSTNot only because you agree with me, but mostly because you said you will work on yourself. I always admired the power of self aknowledgement. More power to you.
i agree with souri
by gitdoun ver.2.0 on Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:13 AM PSTi am guilty of contributing to the hysteria. i will try to work on myself. thanks for this great blog ~!
Self projection?
by G. Rahmanian on Fri Jan 20, 2012 01:47 PM PSTI guess so!
Tiger Lily,
by iraj khan on Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:34 AM PSTMake them an offer they can't refuse!
Like:
"You Better Stop It Or I Become you!"
Good night!
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jan 20, 2012 08:39 AM PSTBaba shoma bikarid? Vel konid digeh shooresh badjoori daroomad.
Hypocrisy has no bounds...and apparently no shame either
by Onlyiran on Sat Jan 21, 2012 08:17 AM PSTisn't it funny that the two people who are complaining the most about abuse on this thread are the only two on this same thread who have been blocked in the past for being abusive to other users? One of them blocked at least twice and the other at least once. Hypocrisy has no bounds!!!
I guess the only thing that the IRI has taught you in the past 32 years is how to be hypocrites & Professional Victims:
//iranian.com/main/blog/onlyiran/iri-professional-victim
Dear Anglophile
by Souri on Fri Jan 20, 2012 06:30 AM PSTYes, naboudid, dishab jashn boud inja :)
The same people who accuse others of everything, they were all here , threatening others to report them to the DHS! LOL, then they say they don't like IRI :)
I am glad you found this blog intersting.
Thank you.
While LA is fast asleep, London is fully awake! ...
by anglophile on Fri Jan 20, 2012 01:35 AM PSTSouri jan
Glad to see that the debate has moved on and is getting more interesting by each comment thanks to a very good choice of topic for a blog.
iraj khan, that is very funny
by Tiger Lily on Thu Jan 19, 2012 05:16 PM PSTThe irony being that they claim that one works for the IRI and then they end up calling a normal work place? LOL!
But seriously, if any of them tried that one, let me know, and they won't know what's hit them.
Thank you for yor comment Souri
by Artificial Intelligence on Thu Jan 19, 2012 05:06 PM PSTI understand your position. Just an FYI, Mr. Ala was not attacked once in that thread. He came charging in and pulled the triger before anyone said anything about him (a very common behavior by him). He could not control himself.
I hope you feel better.
"آفتاب آمد دلیل آفتاب" شاملو
iraj khanThu Jan 19, 2012 04:56 PM PST
Souri,
Everything that you had written in your blog came true by the comments of the 'Usual Suspects' who spew misinformation about others and try to discredit them.
If that does not work, they'll try to gather information about them and attack them at their work place, again with misinformation.
If that does not work then, they call them IRI supporter,
If that does not work they call them terrorist and threaten them.
If that does not work then they try to provoke them and block their account.
"aftab amad dalil aftab" Shamlo
indeed VPK
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:43 PM PSTI dont visit this kind of blogs, just came in to say Hi to Vildemose and faramarz and got jumped on. Plus have not ran, cycled or swam for 5 days now. Time for a good long one along the beach..
Good night to you and all the other friends here.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
People come here to learn
by Rea on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:38 PM PST... not to read personal drivel.
N'importe quoi, svašta i ništa.
In that case, better go to pbs.tehranbureau.
Maybe time to call it a night
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:36 PM PSTPeople this is getting out of hand. It may be a good time to call it a night. The tone is getting worse so before someone is banned please let us say good night.
You said it: "mind your own business"
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:33 PM PSTand enjoy the sandis whilst it lasts.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Roozbeh
by darius on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:29 PM PSTYou are about to declare yourself a kind of saint or imam or masoom
or a prophet when comes to decency and behavior.
Please make yourself clear in your affilation , put up your picture up like Ari does and show us the character of a leader , a truthful leader or just do your regular daily things ,keep yourself busy with your name calling, slander and whatever makes you feel happy .
Some of us "Ghalt zeyadi mikoneem " that include you and me , if any one of us is threat to national security of this country or in process of breaking our oath of citizenship and commit any act that may cause an immenet danger, then I assure you , we are all watched and monitored.
We are all responsible for what we say and we do .
I promise you law enforcemnt and DHS love Iranain.com , just mind your own business.
ajab gereftari shodim ha
by Souri on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:26 PM PSTbaba, Mr Gilani, I didn't flag your last comment. You and your comments are irrelevant to me. The last time i tried to talk to you eloquently and very politely, to explain to you our differences, I got the answer which only deserved yourself and your ilk.
From that point on, i don't even see you. You don't exist here. good bye.
PS_ I still continue to flag all the irrelevent comments. Everybody should stick only to the content of this blog, or go post your comment somewhere else.
TL;
by G. Rahmanian on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:21 PM PSTWhy don't you tag along, dear! The more the merrier. And to be honest with you, I want to get you drunk on some Jose Cuervo Gold! That's my kinda drink!
Uncle G.
by Faramarz on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:19 PM PSTToby Keith speaks my language!
Roozbeh Jaan,
You are among the best around here, so don't take any of this seriously. We have got a lot of work to do. Please keep your eyes on the prize.
Admin please make several
by vildemose on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:17 PM PSTAdmin please make several copies of my comments and email it to both the queen and Ari...lol
A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
Queen of the castle has
by vildemose on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:15 PM PSTQueen of the castle has zero self-awareness. How very Queeny...Our queen is also very pretty........LOL
A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.--Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
so why do you want the admin to delete my comments?
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:11 PM PSTBecause I am speaking the truth and you are frightened of hearing the truth?
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
Dear Admin, please don't delete vildemose's comments
by Souri on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:08 PM PSTI don't know who flagged those comments, but I always want this kind of comments stay because it reveals the ture perosnality of its author, better than a book written about them.
She is among those people that I referred to in my blog, as :
"At least, take your pills before coming to the site and
writing you non-sense."
Faramarz Jaan: This is what could've happened!
by G. Rahmanian on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:09 PM PST//wrs.search.yahoo.co.jp/_ylt=A8vY8mw9rhhPpaA...
Douste aziz AI
by Souri on Thu Jan 19, 2012 03:57 PM PSTSorry I didn't get it the first time. I was more into the meaning of the whole comment, than the word AipacZadeh. Believe it or not, I haven't seen the relatin. Now I understand what you meant.
Still, in every court (complain) you must give the whole data. The context is the most important thing. Now, I have the link. But the way you gave me just a couple of sentences to read, how could I know if that person was not attacked, just before writing this comment in reply?
Sorry dear, you do a mistake. I like Dr Ala, he was also victime of those abuses at work, but I don't know him more than I do know you. The fact is (as TG just mentioend below) that I might agree with someone in one threads and not agree with him/her in another subject.
For example, do you think that Dr Ala agrees with my support of Reza Pahlavi as the representative of the oposition?
If I talked to you that way, is also because I am a bit tired and sick. I was reading and writing for this blog the whole day, and had to attend a meeting at 3:00 and now have other things to do.
I apologize if I showed a little impatience, dear.
Respects;
چوب رو که برداری، گربه دزده در میره!
Roozbeh_GilaniThu Jan 19, 2012 03:58 PM PST
The only comment that this blogger, this defender of "respect" and "free speech" flagged is mine. the one in farsi, which is actually very relevant to the blog and by no means insultive to anyone. this is a comment pulled from the blog that Faramrz referred to. The comment is regarding the supporters of the Islamist regime in N. America who under the cover of "anti-war" actually lobby for the islamist regime. This comment was published in Mr Mousavi, the jailed reformist leaders "Rah e sabz" publication.
So quoting comments from Mr. Mousavi's on line publication is "propaganda"?!!!!
Wow woman, your hypocricy knows no bounds. have you even heard of the word "shame"???
Now I am really out of this place, really.....
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
.
by Tiger Lily on Thu Jan 19, 2012 04:21 PM PST.
Souri
by Faramarz on Thu Jan 19, 2012 03:44 PM PSTSo you are sensitive about Tudeh and then call me Nazok Narenji?
See, that's why I know women so well! They are so predictable!
I am going back to the Pub with my dear friend Uncle G. and after that we will pay a visit to Ari's house for some Ovaltine!
Night is still young.
I was about to answer to Ari
by Rea on Thu Jan 19, 2012 03:41 PM PST..... now I see comments are being flagged.
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Dear Souri
by Artificial Intelligence on Thu Jan 19, 2012 03:30 PM PSTI don't know what you mean by I did not give the link. I copied and pasted the entire comment by the writer and its date stamped. Better than the link! There is no need for "context". The context is clear from the writing, where he calls people who post on this site "AipacZadeh". Personal attacks that you are writing about on this blog.
This same person, came and gave you some nice comments here and agreed with your view. But see how he acts?
What I stated below is very relevant. You just don't like it because its against someone who you are aligned with politically. I know the truth hurts sometimes but its the truth. Sorry if you do not like it.
Here is the entire link if it helps you. Its a perfect example of the hypocrisy I am talking about.
//iranian.com/main/2012/jan/israeli-ad-samsung-iran