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01-Mar-2008
This is an article I found on Boeing’s monthly employee newsletter in praise of their presence in Saudi Arabia. In of itself it is no more than a propaganda piece to appease their minuscule investment in the Arabian Peninsula.
But what struck me odd was the fact that the author had mentioned “Arabian Gulf” in place of the “Persian Gulf”. This is a clear violation of the UN charter and I protested this act in a letter to the editor, author and a senior VP of the Boeing Company. Needless to say I have not heard back from any one.
Of course it could be that Boeing has just lost one of the largest military contracts to date, $40 billion aging tanker replacement program, to its archrival Airbus, and they may well have been preoccupied licking their wounds, to want to answer a reader.
But this clearly shows the sad state of affairs. Boeing has been mired in for the past ten years. Its many unethical and immoral acts in the past decade has been instrumental in losing more contracts than any other aerospace company, having to replace two CEO’s and Chairmen, and imprisonment of some of its top officials.
Boeing has clearly demonstrated to the American people, that it is no longer a company with the best interests of America at and the whole of humanity, if in fact it ever was, at heart.
By partnering with the Saudis and its relatively small investments in the peninsula, Boeing has gone against the security interests of the American people, by indirectly supporting the regime and a form of belief that created, supported, armed and manned the 9/11.
It also demonstrates that Boeing has no interest to support and protect Israel, rather to ensure its sworn enemies are being armed to the teeth. This of itself will be of little interests to Iranians, other than the fact that Boeing has also tried to get into the business of rewriting history.
By deliberately going against the wishes of millions of Iranians, and the powerful Iranians in Diaspora and their ever growing lobbies, it has demonstrated that it has no interest in preserving any of the hollow human value sound bites it wants to point out to its employees, stakeholders and customers.
We Iranians should take serious note of Boeing’s action on the part of renaming the “Persian Gulf” and should start a campaign in attempting to change its behavior. We should also take stock of its actions against the Iranian Nation.
When Iran re-enters the foray of the World civilization, I will guarantee you Boeing will be at its doorstep begging for contracts and we should all be cognizant of its past behavior and reject its futile attempts.
To access the article click here to read PDF file (go to page 45).
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If the shoe fits, wear it.
by Balouchi (not verified) on Tue Mar 04, 2008 01:11 PM PSTIf Iran was governed by Iranians then the name would have remained Persian Gulf but since it is not then there goes the neighborhood and Iran with it, besides does Persia really exist anymore?
Ever since they changed the name from Persia to Iran the Gulf has been the only symbol, we should change Iran's name back to Persia then we can demand the Gulf's name to remain the same.
For the naive (and the
by AnonPers (not verified) on Mon Mar 03, 2008 09:10 PM PSTFor the naive (and the Arabs) out there, It has been always called something essentially amounts to "Persian Gulf" for thousands of years. Why should we care if Arabs want to change that, too? Oh, I don't know, maybe marginalization of Iran and Iranian culture. It starts with small things like that. You know, it's fine actually, let's change Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of White America while we're at it, I mean who cares, it's just a name right?
Besides, what's the NEED for a name change? Yes, names change over time, but not when a group of oil tycoons in a room decide to put forth a preconceived media push to change it.
Also, would the poster AnonARAB really be playing the whole, "it doesn't matter, it's changing already, and names change" argument if this was an article written about some trend of Calling the Arabian Sea the "Persian Sea".
The Persian Sea, which lies between the Arabian Gulf and India...
Kaar kaare ingilisaas
by XerXes (not verified) on Mon Mar 03, 2008 07:08 AM PSTArab keh in chizaa haalish ni, Kaar kaare ingilisaas
RE: Parichehr Parsinejad : Arabian Gulf=Persian Gulf=Whatever.
by Anonymous on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:15 AM PSTname 3 times some one caught calling Caspian sea a different name while speaking English...
that was a ridiculous example!
Persian gulf is not just a name but a history of Iranian heritage since 3000 BC
Chicken Licken
by Anonarab (not verified) on Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:07 PM PSTI can't speak for the others that have posted, but as for myself...I am a chicken...finger lickin' good!
Everyone is chicken
by Mohammad Ala on Sun Mar 02, 2008 08:56 PM PSTEveryone posted here (so far) is chicken. So why not let us call you a chicken? What a difference would it make if we call you a chicken?
Please refer to //www.persiangulfonline.org
It is not about a name, it is about respecting those who opened this water for everyone to use.
it's the chickens who have been demonzing the Persians by altering history and stealing Persian scientists of Islamic times. We've always respected the international names of the Oman Sea, Arabian Sea, and British channel.
ManofIdeas,
by Annoyingmouse (not verified) on Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:42 PM PSTI owe you an apology. I guess I didn't quiet get what you meant by:
"aslong as Iran is marginalized primarly beacause of the actions of its leaders, the Iranian nation will get a raw deal".
You were referring to a possible law suit or a formal complaint against Boeing rather than the idea that appeared to be blaming the whole situation on the action of the IRI.
It resembled the usual things that we always here from a few SAVAKi’s that anything bad happens to Iranians shouldn’t be dealt with only to sit and blame IRI for it.
Your comment was rather technical. Please find a way to help if you can.
My apologies and regards,
Annoyingmouse & aaj sr
by ManofIdeas (not verified) on Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:09 AM PSTAnnoyingmouse: Who said anything about regime change? The UN Charter isn't the sum of anything. The UN Charter is the founding document of the UN. I was saying if you want people to cooperate don't get carried away with your own outrage. But then why do I bother with you...your response speaks for itself.
aaj sr: You are right and I agree that we should write. All I was saying is we should do it politely and using appropriate language.
Anonarab,
by Annoyingmouse (not verified) on Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:35 AM PSTOne at a time...
ManofIdeas? Hey!
by Annoyingmouse (not verified) on Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:32 AM PSTThe UN charter is nothing but its standards, documents and policies, you moron. So in your view with your “bright ideas" changing a regime is easer than fighting a letter from a greedy corporation? Heheheh…Thanks god our enemies are created from morons!
Money beats history?
by Faribors Maleknasri M.D. (not verified) on Sun Mar 02, 2008 08:41 AM PSTI think since the ISLAMIC REVOKLUTION 1978 in IRAN one can now say: History beats and breakes Money. I have choosen the following Message from 27 May 2007. I think it may be a help against your beeing worried on bahalve of the senseless activities of those who try to drive a wedge between Iran and Arabs, to destabilize the region in order to make even more money.that moneymaker to whom you have written had thought he makes the Saudis happy if it writes Arabic Gulf and cat motivate them to claim something from Iranians. Nevertheless I am sure: the Arabs are not that dump, not that stupid. Please acknowledge the following and I ask you please read the most last Pragraph twice. Over 52 countries had accepted the Persian Gulf as Persian Gulf. Now go on:
Persian Gulf symposium on security
Sun, 27 May 2007 06:19:35
Security in Persian Gulf from Perspectives of International Law
Iran's Deputy Foreign Minister for Education and Research has said Iran will host the seventeenth international symposium on the Persian Gulf.
The Persian Gulf international symposium is to be held in Tehran for two days on May 28-29.
The conference will convene at the Institute of Political and International Studies (IPIS) of the Foreign Ministry of Iran.
Manouchehr Mohammadi on Saturday said officials from 28 states will attend the international conference themed `Security in Persian Gulf from Perspectives of International Law'.
The meeting is scheduled to start with a message from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki is to give a speech.
The major discussion will be the security issues and policies of regional powers in the Persian Gulf.
The secretariat of the symposium has received 130 papers from Iran and other countries in which 100 have been selected. Fifty-five papers have been written by Iranians and 45 by foreign thinkers and scholars.
Nine US thinkers and professors, who have sent their papers to the secretariat, have been invited to the symposium as well.
"Persian Gulf issues ranging from various subjects of legal, political and strategic to economic, cultural and historical issues will be addressed," he said.
Mohammadi said 35 papers will be presented in English and 10 in Arabic.
Iraq, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, Oman, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Tunisia, Algeria, Afghanistan, Australia, China, Taiwan, Croatia, France, Greece, Britain, Finland and Indonesia will take part in the symposium.
+ As you see over 25 countries are in favour of Persian gulf and advocate this correct name.
Arabian Gulf = Persian Gulf = Whatsoever
A Rose is a Rose by any other Name
I think it is all clear to all arabs that they can be protected only by mighty ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of IRAN. That new policeman possesses the Defence tools and the man power to prevent any harm to the region and keep away any aggressor. Boeing is a private organisation and has the "right" to act dump. It is also aware that he can only worry the very sensible persons as the Iranians. It behaves delibrately in sucha stupid way. On the other side: MAH FESHAND NUR O SSAG O O KONAD! Greeting
P.s. I have written tow times "delibrately" wrong nummbers. The jock is primarily from SADEGH HEDAYAT.
he had written it in one of his satiric short stories. I do not know the name any more. The correct nummber of those countries which were present is 62 as one can recount in the last paragraph of the message.
Arabian Gulf = Persian Gulf = Whatever. خلیج فارس = خلیج عربی
Parichehr Parsinejad (not verified)Sun Mar 02, 2008 03:45 AM PST
Don't be ridiculous! Different people call the same body of land or water with different names, and that's just fine. Take this example:
The Caspean Sea
Daryaaye Mazandaran (دریای مازندران)
Daryaaye Khazar (دریای خزر)
Bahr Qazwin (بحر قزوین)
No one name is correct. Different cultures/countries/languages have different conventions. And that's perfectly fine.
It's too bad that Persian Chauvinists and Arab Chauvinists behave like children obsessed with trivialities.
A Rose is a Rose by any other Name
by Anonarab (not verified) on Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:28 AM PSTHistorically, we all know that the body of water separating the Land of Fars from the Arabian Peninsula was known as Khaleej-e-Fars, but as people everywhere have always known...things change! Really, don't you have more to worry about in life than if some company calls that stinking cesspool Khaleej-al-Arabie or Khaleej-e-Fars? If this is your major complaint in life, then you are doing well, my friend. In any event, if you Google "Arabian Gulf" you are going to come up with 758,000 entries. Now that you've let Boeing's Senior Vice-President know how pissed you are, you only have 757,999 other people to raise hell with with....good luck!
to:Manofideas: It's not UN charter, but recognized by UN..
by aaj sr (not verified) on Sat Mar 01, 2008 07:16 PM PSTRecognized, registered by UN as "Persian Gulf" on many occasions; I guess that's what the writer may have had in mind. Regardless, the writer's action is applausable. We all should do the same if we are as concerned as he/she is.
write to: maureen.i.jenkins@boeing.com
If you protest do it right
by ManofIdeas (not verified) on Sat Mar 01, 2008 06:50 PM PSTCalling the Persian Gulf, the Arabian Gulf is not a violation of the UN charter for the love of god. There is a reason why you get ignored by people: You sound ridiculous when you make grandiose & inaccurate statements. The UN standard is to call it the Persian Gulf. The name has nothing to do with the UN Charter. Hurling abuse at Boeing doesn't help either. You want their cooperation right? But you are right in that aslong as Iran is marginalized primarly beacause of the actions of its leaders, the Iranian nation will get a raw deal.