The Republican presidential candidate John Sidney McCain III is a con man. The term “con man” comes from “confidence man,” an individual who swindles his victim by first gaining the mark’s trust. Having nothing to do with the word convict, a prisoner, nowadays, the term “con man” refers to anyone who is all about deceit and lies, it is about passing fiction for reality, or inventing a myth to bolster one’s image. John McCain is a “com man” extraordinaire: his Vietnam War legacy as accepted by supporters, the media and even his sheepish opponents is not what it seems.
McCain fancies himself as war hero. His supporters do not waste any moment to remind the public that he was an ex-POW (prisoner of war), who spent time at the “Hanoi Hilton,” the infamous Hoa Lo Prison, where the North Vietnamese held the American prisoners of war. A naval aviator by training, in 1967 McCain was shut down over North Vietnam while on his 23rd bombing mission. It is claimed that he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi, losing consciousness. After coming-to, its is said, his captors pulled him ashore, another crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, while another bayoneted him. The North Vietnamese, the myth goes, refused to treat him for his wounds until they found out that he was the son of an American admiral. He was released in 1973.
While in captivity, McCain claims, he experienced episodes of torture, giving the impression that his visible infirmity and “scars” that he boasts came from mistreatment at the hands of his captors. McCain’s war hero-bubble is further puffed by claims of his turning down the North Vietnamese offer to return him to the United States. McCain has defended that refusal on two grounds. First, he did not think it appropriate for him to be released out-of-sequence, when there were so many others who had been captured ahead of him. Second, because he was the son of an American admiral, McCain claims he did not wish to become part of North Vietnamese publicity stunt, whereby American would look like favoring the sons of its elite over the soldiers from common backgrounds.
Both of these justifications are shallow underpinnings for any claim to righteousness or extraordinary valor. A common perception among folks familiar with military matters is that a prisoner of war’s first duty is to escape so he can re-join his command. McCain could have accepted the North Vietnamese offer of early release and get back in the air or serve the United States war effort in some other capacity. Instead, he chose to continue his sojourn at the Hanoi Hilton, perhaps not wishing to stare death in the face a second time. The bit about not wanting his out-of-sequence repatriation being to be part of any North Vietnamese publicity stunt is utter nonsense. An ideological adversary like North Vietnam would have not released McCain at the risk of it being viewed as acting contrary to its egalitarian dogma. If North Vietnam wanted to impress the American public, it would have repatriated out-of-sequence the sons of ordinary Americans.
One picture from the times of McCain’s captivity showed him stretched out on a bed or cot, reading a book. The Hanoi Hilton indeed! It probably was no picnic for McCain and other POWs. But those were also times when the Geneva Conventions mattered. The world was decades away from the atrocities and systematized torture of detainees at Abu Ghraib Prison, Guantanamo, and at CIA-operated rendition and detention centers. While McCain’s “war wounds” have left him with lifelong physical limitations, the fact is that he received them not from the enemy.
A married man, a gentleman or an officer McCain was not. In April 1979, McCain met Cindy Lou Hensley, a well-to-do former beauty queen and 18 years his junior. After a brief courtship with Cindy, McCain asked his first wife for a divorce, which became final in April 1980. In May 1980 Cindy married her trophy man and McCain his trophy bride, who would bankroll his next career. In 1981 McCain retired from active military duty, moved to Arizona and entered politics, a profession as equally deceptive as advertising or marketing of products and services, or wartime propaganda for that matter.
The casting of McCain as a “maverick” too is an act of deception: Occasional difference with the party line or personages does not a maverick make. McCain’s values are solidly conservative Republican, unabashed and unapologetic, as are those of his running mate, Sarah Plain, also a former beauty queen and go-getter and 28 years his junior. She too is being touted as a “maverick,” which is really a euphemism for a strong-headed person usually incapable of getting along or working with others. Nevertheless, McCain’s self-afflicted brand of “maverick” finds a cozy connection with Harry Truman whose middle initial too was “S.” It is no coincidence that on the day of her unveiling as the Republican candidate for Vice President, Palin should refer repeatedly to her future boss as “John S. McCain.”
Recently, the Boston Globe ran documentary piece in which McCain was described as fiery, intemperate person who was also a womanizer while still married to his first wife Carol (“Taking Command – The McCain Way,” Boston Sunday Globe, Aug. 31, pp A1 and 14A). In the same issue, the Globe had an article describing Palin level best efforts to her adulterous brother-in-law fired from his job because he displayed a temper (“Longstanding family feud in Alaska embroils Palin,” Boston Sunday Globe, Aug. 31, page A11). By Plain’s own code of conduct, therefore, John McCain should have been fired form the Navy for cheating on his wife and having a bad temper.
While McCain was resting his weary bones and nursing his wounds, another American was slogging it in the swamps and jungles of Vietnam, not from the comfort of his cockpit but in waist high water and on dry land, in midst of ambushes and firefights.
John Fitzgerald Kerry joined the United States Naval Reserve in 1966, during his last year at Yale. After graduation, Kerry joined the Navy and served until 1970. On his first tour of duty in Vietnam, in 1968, Kerry was an ensign on the guided missile frigate, which for the most part was on rescue mission in the Gulf of Tonkin, plucking downed aviators. Later that year Kerry went into training for swift boat duty, to patrol the rivers and waterways. As it turned out, on his second your in Vietnam, Kerry would come to lead swift boat contingent that saw much action on the rivers and on land, face to face with the enemy. Suffice it to say, for his second tour in Vietnam, Kerry received the Silver Star (for valor in the face of the enemy), Bronze Star (for bravery and acts of merit), and three Purple Hearts (for being wounded). His tour ended in March 1969 and year later he left the Navy in order to run for the U.S. Congress, continuing however as a Naval reserve until 1978.
Kerry and his first wife, Julia Throne, were married in 1970. They divorced in 1988. He first met his current wife, Theresa Heinz, at a rally in 1990. At the time, she was married to H. John Heinz III, a U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania and heir to the Heinz fortune. Theresa Heinz and Kerry did not meet again until 1992. By then, her husband had died in a plane crash in 1991 and she was now the heir to her husband’s fortune. Kerry and Heinz married in 1995.
One of the major differences between this year’s presidential race and the last one is the almost god-like reverence and deference that the Democratic candidate and establishment show toward McCain’s military service. Whereas just four years earlier the Republican machine savaged Kerry’s military record, unjustifiably, no question is being raised about McCain’s as if the man and his myth are beyond doubt. It is time to unveil the indolent war-hero and expose him for the cowardly farce that he is.
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A Plaigiarist for Vice President?
by kaveh rasooli (not verified) on Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:29 AM PDTJoe Biden's plaigiarism cost him his nomination for the President in 1988. The message Obama is giving the nation is this: A cheater may not be good for the post of President but is good enough for the Vice President and a potential President.
Where is leadership in all these:
by Anonymous Republican (not verified) on Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:16 AM PDTAnonymous 247:
If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the
first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter
registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years
as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator
representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of
the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million
people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs,
Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you
don't have any real leadership experience.
Obviously you do not understand the difference between an executive position and a legislative one. There is a difference between decision making and debating the law.
You need some homework on this.
Sorry to disappoint you Anonymous 247 but ...
by Analyst235 (not verified) on Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:08 AM PDTall your pseudo-credentials for a potential VP and a potential President fail to hold any water when they are applied to two names: Dan Quayle and Spiro Agnew. I know, I know, I know - they were not Ivy League graduates BUT THEY WON VOTES! So sell your ideas elsewhere, this is the America you haven't known yet.
OK? you must be clearer now :)
To the Mirfenderski bashers
by Anonymous 247 (not verified) on Fri Sep 19, 2008 05:43 AM PDTI just got this from an e-mail by a friend - and I though to share it with the folks who instead of defending McCain would liek to attack Mirfenderski (as if he is the head or the butt of any onion)! Here it is:
I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....
* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're
"exotic, different."
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American
story.
* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.
* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well
grounded.
* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the
first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter
registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years
as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator
representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of
the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million
people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs,
Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you
don't have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city
council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000
people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000
people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest
ranking executive and next in line behind a man in his eighth decade.
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while
raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're
not a real Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, then
you're a true Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including
the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of
society.
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no
other option in sex education in your state's school system while
your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in
a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values
don't represent America's.
* If your husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DWI
conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote
until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the
secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
OK, much clearer now.
Is this the meaning of Nothing is Sacred?
by Anonymous Republican (not verified) on Thu Sep 18, 2008 02:16 PM PDTJJ deletes my personal rebuttal of Mirfendereski's article but allows Mirfenderski's personal attack on McCain to go through!
Ask him why and the answer is: che midoonam!
Thank God for JJ for Mirfendereskis of this world would never publish on this site.
Only in Iranian.com
by american1776 (not verified) on Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:16 AM PDTwill this article find an applauding readership. Baseless allegations and laughable comparisons:
John S. McCain = Harry S. Truman (they both have their middle name beginning with S).
Is this the general quality of your legal arguments Mr GM? Because if this is the case, guess what, your initial stand for, among other things: Genetically Modified!
Are you one?
True words
by Payam2323 (not verified) on Thu Sep 18, 2008 09:15 AM PDTWell spoken.
Interesting article
by Monda on Wed Sep 17, 2008 09:18 PM PDTThanks Guive. Lots of new information and very well-written.
you dumb Iranian McCain-Palin Supporter
by Poirot on Wed Sep 17, 2008 02:22 PM PDTEvery election I have successfully tried to respect everyone’s views. However the past eight years of bush and “THE MAVRICK” ‘s FAILED policies have changed me, enough is enough when are the people in this country going to start looking past the political bull@#$% that surround the elections. Who the hell cares about same sex marriage how does it ever effect any of you HOMOPHOBIC conservatives. Obama’s views on Iran are not very much justified as Iran has no A bombs or facilities to do build one as recently admitted by the Bush/McCain administration and the threat to Israel is as valid as everything else that idiot Ahmadinejad says, but again you would know that if you had any knowledge of the Iranian political system. I’ll tell you what I care about I care about my pocket book and that of my children, and Bush‘s amazing tax cuts for the wealthy seems to be working very well as the gap between the rich and the middle class has never been higher in this country, and every day my small business seems to be getting smaller as my competitors “Wall Mart, target and others” keep getting bigger. Is this what this country was founded on Big corporate power.
Anonymous believe me there is so much on McCain and Palin that you could fill up volumes however Mr. Mirfendereski was merely concentrating on the propaganda put out there by the McCain camp.
FYE did anyone know Wasilla Alaska a town with a population of roughly 9000 people has the second highest crime rate in Alaska( this crime rate tripled during Palin’s time), so it seems she has the experience WE NEED!
Name one Obama accomplishments? then attack McCain's record
by Anonymous on Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:40 AM PDTObama has noting to show, so people are attacking McCain POW record...how sad!
Obama has written two autobiography and could not even tell us what has he done to deserve American's vote.
McCain has gone against Republicans many time, name one time that Obama has gone against his own party?
Just today Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee's platform committee Lynn Forester de Rothschild will endorse John McCain today.
Rothschild was a "Hillraiser" for Clinton, scaring up at least $100,000 for Hillary and she has called Obama "arrogant," unable to connect with regular Americans, and "elitist."
Oh Please ...
by poxOnThemAll (not verified) on Wed Sep 17, 2008 09:53 AM PDTcouldn't care less for McCain or Republicans.
but if one is a phony maverick, then the other is a phony agent of "change". both of these parties are run by elites. obama is creepy. mccain is creepy. bidden is creepy.
the fact that a supposedly intelligent man such as guive is getting all worked up over all this says volumes on the masterful mind fuck job the elites do in this country.
right now, this country is being reduced to a has-been, per global interest plans. don't be surprised if this economy starts making argentina's look good in the near future. none of the jokers have a solution and none of the dopes (that's you folks) have a clue.
beam me up scotty, please!
Please take a little time to
by An Iranian McCain-Palin Supporter (not verified) on Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:34 PM PDTPlease take a little time to look at this 30 second clip. I am interested to know your opinions regarding it. I view it as a clear outline of the Iranian regime and how Senators McCain and Obama would treat it differently.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhH2q6h7_Ow
Are these quotes representative of Sen. Barack Obama?
If they are, do you support these views?
Whatever you think of this video, it is a clear example of how Sen. McCain will have an offensive foreign policy platform as opposed to Obama's defensive one.
In my opinion this is what B. Hussein Obama believes. I disagree with him, and I disagree strongly, but I will try not to insult him. Many people, including myself, view him as under-qualified to be president. Especially when taking his 'present' votes in the IL state senate into account. He is a respectable human being, especially because he admitted his mistakes on the O'Reilly Factor, but so is Senator McCain. Sen. Obama's social policies are very out-of-touch with "White middle America" who is pro-life and anti-gay marriage. Obama opposed something similar to the Born Alive Infants Act in the IL State Senate. Also, Obama opposed the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Sen. McCain supported. Obama is for the radical redefining of marriage. This is our chance to also take back the supreme court. Regarding Senator McCain's economic policy, I believe it is truly brilliant! He will cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. 35% is the second highest corporate tax rate in the industrialized world. Only Japan's is higher. Also, for those of you who do your own taxes and know, Sen. McCain will increase the dependent exemption from $3,500 to $7,000. In addition, Sen. McCain will "tax-exempt" the amount of your income (up to a limit) that is paid, in any way, towards your insurance, whether you pay it or your employer does. All of this, in addition to making permanent President Bush's prodigious tax-cuts and fixing loopholes such as cell phone taxes and internet taxes, will be sure to keep our low inflation and HIGH GDP growth rate.
Mirfenderecki: No Hero
by Kurush (not verified) on Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:15 PM PDTLet me complement No Hero with the economic dimension of McCain and the gang.
First, McCain is one of the so-called Keating Five which brought about the savings & loan collapse in the late eighties. Unbeknownst to you, the US government passed on the cost of shoring up the massive banking hemorrhage, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, to you. In the 90’s each time you went to fuel up you auto, you paid a surcharge tax the went straight to the fund set up for the purpose of saving the Savings and Loan industry. One of the Keating Five was no other than McCain’s friend Cal. Senator Cranston who was on record as saying no lobbyist should approach him without a minimum of half million dollars. That is how brazen the corruption was then (and now) in the halcyon days of Reagan Utopia! Specifically, in 1987, McCain met with banking regulators on behalf of the principal crook, and now ex-con, Charles Keating, who brought about the collapse of the savings and loan baking two decades ago. What McCain did not tell the regulators (nor did they ask, for obvious reasons) that his wife, sweet Cindy, and her father had co-invested, with Keating , $350000 in strip mall development the year before the meeting with the regulators. (see May 18 2008 Editorial NYTIMES)
Second, the principal economic advisor of John McCain has been no other than Phil Gramm. The Senator from Texas ( why do all these misfits come from Texas, anyone has an answer? I must add I respect the people of Texas) , who called America a ‘nation of whiners’, in the aftermath of Enron debacle fought a democrats’ bill which would have tightened the regulations on auditors. NYTIMES report in May 2002 says it all : “Senator Phil Gramm of Texas and the accounting industry trade group are working to kill democrats’ bill that would impose new rules on auditing.Let me complement No Hero with the economic dimension of McCain and the gang.
” But the biggest sin of Gramm is his successful attempt to gut Glass-Stegall Depression Era banking law which did not allow banks to become insurer as well as bankers. Paul Krugman calls Phil Gram the father of the current financial crisis (May29th 2008 NYTIMES) as follows: ‘ The general co-chairman of John McCain presidential campaign former Senator Phil Gramm, R. Texas, led the charge in 1999 to repeal a Depression era banking regulation …that contributed significantly to today’s economic turmoil…According to federal lobbying disclosure records, Gramm lobbied Congress, the Federal Reserve, and the Treasury Department about banking and mortgage issues in 2005 and 2006. During these years the mortgage industry pressed Congress to roll back the state rules that sought to stem the rise of predatory tactics used by lenders and brokers to place homeowners in high cost mortgage.”
McCain, Kerry, Heinz, Gramm are part of the ruling class, the plutocracy, in America. An analysis of the word ‘plutocracy’ says it all. Plutocracy refers to the underworld god of antiquity , Pluto, who resided over riches and wealth. Pluto was literally blind. So is greed.
I have both books and they're great reading
by AnonymousAmericanMom (not verified) on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:38 PM PDTto dear Anonymous: if you think anybody who cares about reproductive rights is going to vote for McCain and Palin, you are DREAMING! Both of them have a stated policy of overturning RvW
If you want to keep a woman's right to choose DONATE to Obama, please:
https://donate.barackobama.com/page/content/splash...
OBAMA THE COCAINE ADDICT AND LEFTIST EXTREMIST
by Anonymous on Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:16 PM PDTALL I HAVE TO SAY IS READ OBAMA'S FIRST BOOK. THIS GUY USED TO BE COCAINE ADDICT IN HIS OWN ADMISSION.
And a guy who picks Biden as his VP, must be really nuts and lacking judgment to do it.
A guy who is for "late term abortion" which is basically is like baby killing.
It's not just partial-birth abortion where Obama is outside the
mainstream, but on the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act --
In 2000, Congress took up legislation to make it clear that infants born
alive after abortions are persons under the law. The National Abortion and
Reproductive Rights Action League opposed the bill as an assault on Roe,
but it passed the House 380-15. Back in the Illinois state Senate in 2001,
Obama spoke out against and voted "present" -- effectively "no" -- on a
similar bill, aligning himself with the tiny pro-abortion rump of 15
congressmen.
READ HIS BOOK BEFORE VOTING!!!!
The real hero
by Soroush (not verified) on Mon Sep 15, 2008 08:28 PM PDTNow, ask yourself if the true heroes were not the young men who refused to go and continue a French war in Vietnam, to shove a Catholic regime down the throat of a Buddhist people, to interfere in a civil war half way across the world. They chose to have their lives ruined, go to prison, disrupt their education and careers, perfom civil service or even leave their country but not to go and kill a people who had no hostile intent toward the USA.
Dear Ali
by Shamse Vazir (not verified) on Mon Sep 15, 2008 08:22 PM PDTMcCain is a hothead but you won't hear that from Obama. Liberals in the US are useless. They don't know how to fight except with each other. They are so afraid of being labeled "liberal" that they rather give up before the race begins! Jimmy Carter's disastrous performance broke the will of the Democrats and they have yet to regain it.
Great article...
by ebi amirhosseini on Mon Sep 15, 2008 08:10 PM PDTSepaas
Thank you!
by Gilda (not verified) on Mon Sep 15, 2008 05:43 PM PDTSuperb article Guive.
That's it?
by Concerned Iranian (not verified) on Mon Sep 15, 2008 05:08 PM PDTThat's it? Is that all you have against McCain? that some of the peripheral issues around his captivity may have been hyperbole and exageration? If this is all his adveraries have (which incresaingly seems to be the case), MCain looks more and more better and better compared to many other canidates. Remember, he has had a long career. A lot could happen during this long period. Even according to the smear campaign (incluidng on this page) not too many derogatory things happned in fact. If Obama wwere also 72 years old and had done so many things in his life, then, it would be interesting to see what could be found. Come on! I am not a Republican,but when I see unfair treatment of a canidate, I call the person on it.
Ross Perot connection
by Q on Mon Sep 15, 2008 02:26 PM PDTGuive, that's an excellent expose. Things like this should normally be personal and private, but if you're going to make "integrity" and "honor" the issue to beat up your opponents with, you really should not throw stones. Given what they did to Kerry in 2004, I don't think things like this need to be self-censored.
Ross Perot (the same guy who ran for President) was an advocate for POW's and paid the medical expenses of McCain's first wife after her tragic accident (some say due to depression). After McCain dumped her, Perot spoke out and called him "a classic opportunist". Here's the Newsweek article:
//www.newsweek.com/id/94827
Also watch this from the Turks show.
Ali P. there are a lot of
by Fatollah (not verified) on Mon Sep 15, 2008 02:06 PM PDTAli P. there are a lot of intersting stuff about the man on internet, you can look it up in counterpunch.org for instance, it is claimed that he even was a collaborater while in Hanoi Hilton! Anywyas, who knows, politicians seem to have too many pigs in the woods ... A hero? I don't think so!
cheers F.
.
by timothyfloyd on Wed May 12, 2010 12:09 PM PDT.
Hyperactive indolent war-hero coward
by sz (not verified) on Mon Sep 15, 2008 01:03 PM PDTIt seems your overview of his life, both personal and professional, contradicts the concluding statement of: “It is time to unveil the indolent war-hero and expose him for the cowardly farce that he is.”
I wonder
by farokh2000 on Mon Sep 15, 2008 01:01 PM PDTI just wonder if the Evil Machine is so powerful that they are buying or intimidating all who are running against the Warmongers.
They shut down Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004 and now Obama.
Obama should have so much to throw at this criminal MacCain, that it should not be a race at this time. Instead McCain is ahead and no one is exposing the real MacCain.
War Hero?, are you kidding me?
As much as I hate to think of Conspiracies, this smells like it, walks like it and looks like it. 2004 all over again?. I hope not, for the sake of Humanity and the Human Race.
Thanks for such a nice piece here Guive.
regardless
by Mirzr Reza Kermany and his poodle visiting Harward for IRI (not verified) on Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:35 PM PDTRegardless if all allegations are true or false I still enjoyed the fact that someone kicked Republicans ass. There is such a joy in it, you know what I mean? I mean be it Bush or Khamenei it is always fun to see religious fanatics get kicked in the ass....
Whether or not
by Kaveh Nouraee on Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:09 PM PDTone is speaking about John McCain or John Kerry, I never have agreed with criticisms their military service. Anyone who serves or has served should be given the recognition and respect thet deserve, especially if they have been engaged in active combat.
There's no reason to doubt what McCain endured at the hands of the NVA. They were notorious for their savagery. The fact that he was an officer at the time of his capture gave the NVA all the more reason to inflict as much pain as possible.
John Kerry did not endure the same treatment, but he still served. Vietnam was no country club. No man who went to Vietnam came back the same, regardless of his political leanings. That seems to have been forgotten completely by everyone. The swift boat issue with Kerry was wrong 4 years ago and minimizing what McCain endured in Hanoi is wrong as well.
Mr. Mirfendereski, while it is agreed that a soldier's first and foremost duty when captured is to escape, what if he is physically unable to do so? Two badly broken arms and a broken leg would render anyone incapacitated, wouldn't it? Futhermore, are you suggesting that the North Vietnamese conducted themselves in accordance to either the Geneva Convention or even the simple rules of humanity and decency? After all, isn't the profound underestimation of the enemy by the U.S. a significant reason for the loss of that war?
Thank you for a great article
by IRANdokht on Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:35 AM PDTThe swift-boating of John Kerry was the most shameful stunt they pulled 4 years ago, but it definitely was not their first unscrupulous act.
Unfortunately it seems like most people are concerned with the hot air and false rumors than solid facts. But I would not have voted democrat if they were campaigning the same unethical way that the republicans do.
I guess they should try it though, they'll lose my vote but apparently will gain millions.
These facts are all out there for the ones who want to find out and learn the truth. The rest will always follow the hype.
Thanks again, great article!
IRANdokht
Interesting
by Ali P. on Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:47 AM PDTI had not heard most of this before. One wonders why the liberals don't use this , presumably accurate information, to attack John MaCain.
(Or are they saving it for the last week, before the election,"swift-boating" him?)