New Iranian fighter plane

Saeqeh joins Iranian air force fleet

10-Mar-2009
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FAIR

by 99 cent Whopper (not verified) on

If you see the clip, You will know that it is not Just Hajminator who makes that claim! You need to take this up with the IRI. Hajminator, for all we know and with all due respect, may have been misinformed. So he is not the one who is responsible for backing anything up. I heard The words "tarahi" va SAKHT of this baby so many times during the report.

One thing on experts, they come in all shapes and forms and with different opinions. One does not have To know the region so well in order to express an opinion, and at the same time non of such expressed opinions in a book or an article deserve condemnation for the sake of the author's expressed belief. Carter wrote a book on Middle east and came up with all sorts of BS as solutions, do you think he really "knew" the region? I agree that we should not listen to just about anyone who thinks they know a thing or two about something we may have no idea, but that does not translate into total disrespect and denouncing of that work or advice.


Hajminator

Again?

by Hajminator on

You tried a French expression (la folie de grandeur) and I gave another one.

For the precision, here de l'homme is a general term to designate humans. The correct translation is The stupidity of humans is just equal to their ignorance . And that is a general french expression.

So, what were you trying to prove by using french metaphors?

NOW, shall we stop? Man ghoftam to ghofti will never finish. I agree with 99 Cent whopper that we are not in a school playground here. I suggest that we all end up by this lovely taraneh Eide posted by Ebi.


Fair

Yes,what a terrible thing to call your opponent stupid in French

by Fair on

...as you did in the post right before that:

"La petitese de l’homme n’est égale qu’a sa stupidité"

(The smallness of the man is equaled only by his stupidity)

And that was not the first time you called me stupid. As you could see, it is rather easy for anybody to hurl insults at others. If your goal is to support our scientists and engineers, you don't need to resort to insults and personal attacks, there are much better ways to support them like I discussed in the other blog.

The blog is there, crystal clear, open to everybody, and it is clear to anyone who looks that I was not the one who introduced foul language into this discussion. Nor did I ever attack anybody's patriotism.

And yes, I have always stated my admiration and appreciation for our engineers and scientists, and if that was the main point, then the discussion was over 4 pages ago in the beginning when I joined.

And also, yes, I did not raise objections in the other blog because you finally stated correctly that Iran does not manufacture jet fighters. Will they in the future? I hope so and we shall see and will be glad to help any way I can.

-FAIR

 

 

 

 


Hajminator

We are not in a school playground

by Hajminator on

But to clarify things.

I'm a bit sensitive to the French language. Perhaps it's because I use it everyday for reading/writing/speaking and that since 25 years.

When I saw Va te faire futre, tu petit chien stupid! (Go f### yourself you little stupid dog) written with n mistakes, that put me out of me. What did you try to prove? That you know use a translator or that you are good in French? If someone told you that the meaning is Eide shoma mobarak he/she was fooling you.

About Iran manufacturing fighters in Cameroun blog I said Iran does not manufacture Saequeh like Sahand, yes I agree. But will manufacture warcrafts in a near future, as the project Saequeh has been successfully tested. You didn't raise objections there...

We are not here to show each others virility. If you look at my posts, they all go in the sense of recognition and appreciation of our scientists. You can find this FACT mostly in everyone of them.

We had to stop our discussions when you said that you were proud of these achievements.

End of the session.

- Eide hameh doostan mobarak


Fair

99 Cent whopper

by Fair on

People can bring any assertion they want. But the bolder a claim someone makes, the more reasonable it is for somebody to ask them what that claim is based on. A claim of "Iran manufactures fighter planes" is very big, ask anybody in any aviation industry in the world. Same with broad "black and white" claims like "Iran is technologically independent now and was technologically dependent then". This discussion was not and will not be resolved here, but the point is, it is reasonable to expect the person making such a strong claim to substantiate it, especially if they keep insisting on their claim.

Re:Experts, I was referring to experts on Iranian industry, since that is what this discussion was about. And experts on a country are different than experts on a scientific or technical subject, they are much more subject to opinions and political leanings and their vantage point, and therefore there is less consensus, and much more room for error in their thinking. I'm sorry, but someone who knows the middle east well would not have written the "Threatening Storm". We Iranians don't have to accept everything an "expert" on Iran says because we are told he is an "expert". Just like we don't need to copy a "Marje taghlid" because we are told he knows more than we do.

I would say the kitchen/heat analogy applies to people making claims as well as people being offended. I personally don't care what Haji's personal opinion is of me, he is entitled to every opinion he has. Just as I have every right to respond to language levelled at me with similar language or not to. Call me arrogant.

Now I will shut my "grande gueule de MERDE".

-FAIR

 


Fair

I sincerely apologize

by Fair on

for mistakenly referring to my own mouth as Koon Dahan, an obvious misunderstanding by stupid old me, as you just now clarified that you weren't referring to me in that lovely poem about yeveh gooee. Since I wouldn't want to have my behavior perceived as bad, I will close my mouth, for which I believe the correct term according to you is "grande gueule de MERDE" (big mouth full of sh*t- it sounds so much nicer in French). God forbid I wouldn't want to offend anybody.

Oh and by the way, eid-e-shoma neez mobarak.

 

-FAIR

 


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FAIR

by 99 cent Whopper. (not verified) on

I have been watchig you and Hajminator Jumping at each others throat All throughout this post. One thing thatyou keep forgetting is that Although it is good to have all claims checked and verified before expressing them, it is not an obligation to do so, So you can certainly not DEMAND that someone substantiate anything, or else... This is a public forum and no one has any legal obligation to make claims in a certain way. You are the one who needs to have enough control to not have your sense of
patriotism and love of iran offended, Just by reading articles and pieces here and there. You pretty much rediculed every claim that he had to make under the guise of "non-factual". Are we at a court Of lawso that we have to come up with proof of everything we have to say? No room for honest mistakes or possible lack of enough information?

So basically,as the saying goes you need to adopt an "if you can not take the heat, get out of the kitchen" attitude, rather than taking things in a personal way.
I respect your services and experinces in your industry and the knowledge that you bring to us, But at the same time I find a certain amount of arrogance and cockiness in your assertions. Hajminator, made one good point, And that was the fact that you can't call so and so, non experts on iran just because they never spent a day in iran or don't speak farsi. Pushing for the Iraq
war was a collective effort, and involved many so-called experts and non-experts all together, So neither Pollack or Behrooz's writings and opinions

was individually responsible for killing and maiming all those common people and soldiers. Remember it was The cowboy who pulled the trigger.

Being open to read and hear others' viewpoints, AS UNSUBSTANTIATED AS THEY ARE, IS a MUST, before you take part in such discussion forums.


Hajminator

I never said that you're

by Hajminator on

a Khun dahan. When Anonymous_7 talked about yaveh-gouE, that reminded me a poem from Vahshi Bafghi.

Khodetam vocabularet toopeh. Vaghti kabab missozeh, ham taghssireh ashpazeh vo ham atish.

We have to turn the page, sh*t happens as one can say.


Fair

I see...

by Fair on

Next time I will just sit back and take any insult shut up my big mouth (oops, sorry, Koon dahan that is..) and be intimidated into accepting whatever the other side says...

...so that my behavior will be worthy of your acceptance and I can please you.

Sounds great!

-FAIR


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Fair this is not a new

by Fair my a** (not verified) on

Fair this is not a new behavior from you. Same old same old. Even if others started "something" you keep at it and escalate it until you get to this point. It is never you. Of course who would admit my yogurt is sour. Whatever.


Hajminator

‫پس بیا

Hajminator


‫این موفقیت هموطنان و بهار را جشن بگیریم

 

گل بي رخ يار خوش نباشد     بي باده بهار خوش نباش
طرف چمن و طواف بستان      بي لاله عرار خوش نباش
رقصيدن سرو و حالت گل         بي صوت هزار خوش نباش
با يار شكرلب گل اندام           بي بوس و كنار خوش نباش
هر نقش كه دست عقل بندد   جز نقش نگار خوش نباشد
جان نقد محقر است حافظ      از بهر نثار خوش نباشد

بچه ها دستتون درد نکنه.


Fair

Respect and be respected

by Fair on

Yes, this style and crude language is very undesirable and unpleasant, isn't it.

For the record, go back in this blog and look who first used the word STUPID, ABLAH, AHMAGH, YAVEH GOO, KOON DAHAN, KHAYEH SAR, NAJES KHELGHAT, SHUT UP BIG MOUTH(in French- ferme sa grande gueule), monkey (singe in French), called the other a chimpanzee, and said the other person stinks and needs to take a shower. Not to mention saying the other person is not an Iranian, and accusing them of putting down Iranians because the other person would not accept lies about what Iranians accomplished.

If you stick to the facts and the debate, so will I gladly, and that is how I prefer it and that is how I always discuss (people can check for themselves). But if you want to attack me personally and bring it down into the gutter, you will get a taste of your own medicine. Respect brings respect and vice versa.

I will gladly learn how to curse properly in French if you learn how to debate with someone you don't agree with without attacking their patriotism and calling him/her stupid.

As far as Anonym 7, he/she publicly accused me of saying nonsense about a previous rocket launch, I demanded he substantiate it, he said he didn't have time. He/she deserved everything I said and more.

Yes, I am extremely happy with our scientists' achievements, regardless of which era, and what their personal political or religious beliefs. I am incredibly proud of them, what they have done despite all the limitations, both from inside and outside the country, support them wholeheartedly, AND NEVER SAID OR DID OTHERWISE.

But I will not support lies and misrepresentations about their accomplishments, and they would not want that either. Nor will I tolerate personal attacks on me and my patriotism and character or any other form of intimidation when I try to set the record straight.

-FAIR

 

 


Hajminator

Bia Eide dareh miresseh, inghadar dagh nakon

by Hajminator on

You have a disdainful style of writing which has also shocked Anonymous_7. You also begun insulting in French using a translator and now you talk about, giving me back my medicine?

So look, you say that you’re happy with our scientist achievements; that’s great. Calm down a step, if I want to go on the escalation using crude language, it would not be good especially now on Eide. So cool down, drink something and Eidet mobarak.


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interesting article re Obama and Iran

by Arya manesh (not verified) on

//www.krsi.net/news/detail.asp?NewsID=4747

"Those in power in Iran are responsible for terrorist attacks throughout the Middle East, not to mention in Buenos Aires, Paris, Vienna and Berlin. They are fundamentally opposed to liberal democracy and its ensuing individual rights. They still imprison the young for having parties and listening to music and stone women to death for extramarital sex. In the name of God, they persecute religious minorities and imprison mullahs who speak of freedom. They still chant "death to America" at the official sermon every Friday and force children to do the same as part of the school curriculum. Drug addiction is common among large swaths of society."


Hajminator

When you insult in French

by Hajminator on

Don't just use a translator. There are n mistakes in your n+1 insult title text.


Hajminator

Once again

by Hajminator on

how the old man called the term ain't important what's important is that we come a long way from divisions, wars, disdains, ... and we have to have our history in mind before opening our big mouths and minimizing the efforts of our scientists.

ور تو در تربیت کنی تقصیر             ‫گردد از این و آن فسادپریر
‫تربیت چیست؟ آنکه بی گه و گاه‫   دارای اش از نظر به غیر نگاه


Fair

Talk about reality?

by Fair on

I see, Khomeini INVENTS a term, and that is what we should all use because he invented it and you say so.

The term means "barbarian allowance". Nowhere in any document or any agreement does this term come. Therefore, the only REALITY in which it exists is in that of Khomeini and those who choose to follow him.

It's like me "inventing" a new term for Khomeini (let's say for example, "pimp"), and saying if you don't use it, you are denying reality.

I can equally say now that Iranian muslim men get "barbarian pay" if they abuse their wives or kill a non-believer or stone an adulterer in Iran.

 

-FAIR

 


Hajminator

Aqha Fair

by Hajminator on

I created a blog about Hagueh Tavahosh. You're invited to come, if you have something to say about this fact, come and say it there.


Hajminator

I've heard the term for the first time when I was 10

by Hajminator on

... and I'm really amazed that people pretending to know everything about Iranians, knowing pilots and specialists inside the country and ignore this fact of our history! Yes, really amazed.

My sources are all books written about the subject and which are partially in French. You know French aqha Fair? If yes, begin by this one.

Lettre de Soliman le Magnifique à François Ier

If not, search by yourself, you should be able to find books saying what I recounted.

Is it important that the term was invented by Khomeini, x or y? The term was used by all IRANIANS from 1970 to 1979, that's the point. Why didn't you translate that? If I wanted to hide this fact I wouldn't have wrote it. Right? Your partial interpretation of the reality is a distortion of the truth.

If you look on what capitulation meant for people since 1740 in ME, you see that it is exactly Hagueh Tavahosh.

So yes, the Shah was forced to establish Hagueh Tavahosh in Iran. The establishment of this regime in Iran at that time meant that a foreigner was immunized if he took a confidential document and flew the country. No one had the possibility to inspect and get back the document. So in some senses, Iranians paid a hagh tavahosh. It's so childish to interpret the reality in the way you want, that it becomes pitiful. First, you're surprised by the term. And when you're confronted by the reality you try to change it in your way!
LOL.


Fair

For those of you who don't know Farsi,

by Fair on

the above passage (whose source is unclear) explains the history of the concept of "capitulation" in general and in Iran specifically, going back to some agreement in 1621 between the East India company and the Persian government, in which Dutch citizens were not subject to Persian law, and specifically if they committed murder, they would be tried by their own superiors.  It also talks about a capitulation regime started by the Ottomans for European citizens in 1740.

In 1928, all agreements about capitulation (assuming any were still binding) were terminated by Reza Shah.  In 1960, President Kennedy asked the Iranian government to grant American citizens in Iran consular rights and the Iranian government agreed.  Somehow, this is supposed to mean the return of the "capitulation regime" (the one from 1621? the one from 1740 in the Ottoman empire? which one??) to Iran.  According to this passage, Khomeini then changed the name of this to "haghe tavahosh", or "barbarian rights"/"barabrian pay".

So first of all, according to this passage whose author is completely unspecified, this is a term invented by Khomeini, not by American or any other foreign companies employing expatriates in Iran.  So let the record be clear, no foreign company was paying its employees "barbarian pay".

Secondly, how can an agreement concluded in 1621 between a government and a foreign company, none of which exist anymore, be reinstated in 1960?  There was no East India company nor any Safavid government anymore.  There would have needed to be a new agreement, the details of which are not specified here one bit.

In any case, thank you for clarifying that the notion of a foreign company paying its employees in Iran "barbarian pay" is a false one and a commonly held misconception in Iran.

 

-FAIR 


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thanks Hajminator

by Anonym7 (not verified) on

Thanks for your post regarding haghghe tavahhosh. That was educational.
,,best regrads


Hajminator

حق توحش یا کاپیتولاسیون

Hajminator


کلمهء کاپیتولاسیون، واژه ای فرانسوی که از ریشهء لاتین کاپیتولار میاید. معنی کاپیتولار تسلیم و شرط گذاشتن برای سازش است. تسلیم آلمان در جنگ جهانی دوم به کاپیتولاسیون معروف است که به معنی واگذاری بخشی از آلمان به لهستان و بخش کشور به دو نیم غربی−شرقی و تسلیم نیروی نظامی رایش به متهدین بود.

‫ریشهء این پدیده به سدهء ۴−۶ میلادی بر میگردد، در زمانی که بیزانس امتیازات ویژه ای به اتباع ژن و پیزا قائل شده بود.

‫کاپیتولاسیون در قرن ۱۲ میلادی با تحمیل یک جانبهء دُول اورپايی به برخی از کشورهای شرقی جلوهء دیگری بخودش گرفت. پدیدهء بغرنج کاپیتولاسیون که ما تا چندی پیش مشاهدش بودیم، بر میگردد به قرن ۱۶ میلادی، موقعه ایکه دولت عثمانی قراردادی را با دولت فرانسوا ۱, فرانسه بست. در آن قرارداد، سلطان سلیمان اول قبول کرد که اتباع فرانسوئیکه به امپراطوری عثمانی سفر میکنند همان حقی را داشته باشند که در فرانسه میداشتند.

‫فرانسه در آن زمان، بعلت رقابت سر سخت خود با ایتالیا ، احتیاج مبرم به پشتیوانی دول خارجی مانند امپراطوری عثمانی داشت. سلطان سلیمان اول هم در حقیقت احتیاجی به بستن این قرار دادنداشت، چون امپراطوری عثمانی آن زمان یکی از قدرتمندترین دولتهای وقت بود. دلیل این امضاء یک کم مبهم است ولی انجام شد.

‫این امتیاز برای نخستین بار توسط دولت عثمانی به فرانسویها، بنیان کاپیتولاسیون را در خاورمیانه پایه گذاری کرد. اتباع فرانسوی در ۲ قرن بعد، که دولت عثمانی توانمندیش رو به رکود بود، از اختیارات گسترده ای برخوردار شدند و رسماً در سال ۱۷۴۰ میلادی رژیم کاپیتولاسیون به دولت عثمانی تحمیل گردید ‫و دیری نپائید که دُول دیگر اروپائی مثل روسیه تزاری، هلند، آلمان، انگلیس، ... هم داری حق کاپیتولاسیون در کشور عثمانی شدند.

‫رژیم کاپیتولاسیون به کشورهای زیر قلمروی کشور عثمانی مثل لبنان، عراق، سوریه و فلسطین هم تحمیل شد. کشور عثمانی که خود از اینرژیم تبعیت میکرد با کشورهای ضعیف تر همانند ایران نیز حق کنسولی میگرفت.

‫این بذر در دوره صفوی بطور غیر رسمی در ایران پاشیده شد و در دوران سلطنت شاه سلطان حسین، اتباع فرانسوی و انگلیسی از این حق برخوردار شدند. در سال ۱۶۲۱ میلادی شرکت هند شرق با شاه عباس قرار داد کاپیتولاسیونی بست، که طبق آن قرارداد شرکت هند شرق در اصفهان تأسیس شد و اتباع هلندی بر حکم کاپیتولاسیون از امتیازات خواصی برخوردار میبودند که بندهای ۱۰ و ۱۴ به این قرار بود

‫بند ۱۰ − هلندیها از آزادی کامل برای اقامتگاه خود برخوربودند و هیچ فرد و یا حتی قوه قضاییه حق ورود به آن مکان را نمیداشت، اتباع هلندی برای جلوگیری از ورور اشخاص خارجی به زور هم میتوانستند متوسل شوند
‫بند ۱۴ − اگر یک هلندی و یا فرد خارجی دیگری هرایرانی را به قتل میرساند، او بوسیلهء فرمانده خودش محاکمه میشد
این رژیم کاپیتولاسیون همراه با معاهدهء ترکمنچای در سال ۱۲۰۲ شمسی به ایران تحمیل شد. از آن به بعد اول دولت روسیه و بعد، دولتهای استعمارگر دیگر مانند انگلیس و آمریکا، این امتیازهای غیر قانونی را برای اتباع خودشون گرفتند. و بهد از آن تمام دُول اروپائی و حتی چند کشور آمریکا لاتین مثل آرژانتین به صف دولتهای کاپیتولاسیون−چی پیوستند.

در زمان رضا شاه یک بازنگری در این رژیم انجام شد و در سال ۱۳۰۷ خورشیدی کاپیتولاسیون رسماً در ایران پایان یافت. ولی کمتر از ۴۰ سال بعد، بر اساس سیاست خارجی آمریکا در خاورمیانه رژیم کاپیتولاسیون در سال ۱۳۴۳ شمسی بازدر ایران متداول شد. دولت کندی از سال ۱۳۴۰ از ایران خواست که به اتباع آمریکائی حق کنسولی دهد.

در پی قیام ۱۵ خرداد و اوج نفرت ایرانیها از سیاست آمریکا و هراس آمریکا از کشمکشهای بین ایرانیها و اتباع آمریکايی، شاه وادار به احیای کامل کاپیتولاسیون در ایران شد
‫خمینی برای مخالفت با این رژیم و کلاً با شاه، نام کاپیتولاسیون را به حق توحش تبدیل کرد که این ترم در ایران رواج پیدا کرد.


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No. i think it is all wrong.

by Arya manesh (not verified) on

No. i think it is all wrong. I can not be proud whether or not a whole bunch of terrorists (the Iranian theocratic govt. called Republic of Islam) having access to Jet fighters,Bombs and or nuclear technology. This doesn't make me a proud Iranian. I would be proud if this regime wasn't there. Let me give you a scenario. Do you think that the German nation should have been proud under Hitler if the Nazi govt in that era knew how to make gas chambers,Bombs or what have you?


Hajminator

Anonymous_7 aziz

by Hajminator on

‫وحشی بافقی راجع به یک یاوه گو چنین میگوید:

السلام اي سياه ساز و نياز             به اجازت كه هجو كردم ساز
خامه كردم به فكر هجو تو تيز          ای سياه گريز پا بگريز
هله كيدی غلام ناقابل                    فكر خود كن كه كار شد مشكل
قلمم باز در سياهی شد                تو دگر چون سفيد خواهی شد
هجوت اي دزد پربها كردم               ديگرت بر چراغ پا كردم
خويش را زنده مي‌گراری تو              رگ مردي مگر نداری تو
فچه موش خسته‌ای، آقا                 گربهء پا شكسته‌ای آقا
گه سگ چيست، جسم ناپاكت        پشم آن موی روی ناپاكت
ريش بز بسته‌ای، برو آقا                  بد اگر گفته‌ام بگو آقا
چون گه گربه است پيكر تو              ای گه گربه خاك بر سر تو
پخ سقل، بد عمل، جعل سيما       زشت گو، ياوه گو، كريه لقا
كون دهن، خايه سر،ذكر قامت        بی‌حيا، بد لقا، نجس خلقت
كيسه بر، دزد كاسه هر جابر          مهره خر فروش، بد گوهر
روبه حيله ساز پر تزوير                  گربهء اسود كبوتر گير
كيك گهناك دلق كناسان                 كنهء كون گاو خر آسان
هيچ دندان نمانده در دهنت            كه كسي بشكند گه سخنت
آنكه پرورده‌اي به نعمت او               مي‌كني صبح و شام غيبت او
وانكه آدم شدی ز اقبالش               چون سگ افتاده‌ای به دنبالش
از تو بد بيند آنكه باتو نكوست           اينهمه جرم آن رگ هندوست
زين ترا عيب چون توان كردن             هست كار كلاغ گه خوردن


Hajminator

Cameroun jan

by Hajminator on

I'll arrive. Let me just answer the Monsieur about hagueh Tavahosh. It's really important that we all know where we came from. It reinforces the achievements done by our patriots too. I'll be polite, promise.

 

I'm gathering my notes


Cameron A. Batmanghlich

Dear Hajminator ... the

by Cameron A. Batmanghlich on

Dear Hajminator ...

the other blog (a clean one :)  has kicked off.  We are looking for y our valuable input.

 Hope you join.

Thanks


Fair

Dear Cameron

by Fair on

Thank you for your thoughts and your concerns, and you are right on just about everything. But none of what you say contradicts what I say. Yes, of course, Iran depended on outside supply of parts for its military, because it had a technologically advanced military. It had air supremacy for the beginning of the war, but life was not easy for the Iraqi air force for the remainder of the war either. Kharg island pretty much operated for the whole war. Mehrabad airport had commercial flights pretty much on a regular schedule. Now today, how would things be different? We would not have air supremacy ever, not even for the first 5 minutes of a war, and there is no shame in that, that is to be expected. My point is, if we wanted to have a 2008 standard high tech military today, we would be just as dependent on foreigners today as we were back then. Yes, the Bell helicopter plant was an assembly line. But if today we wanted to make the latest Blackhawk we would still need to import the assembly line. There is no shame in this, it is just sheer truth. So once again, if you compare APPLES TO APPLES, our technological dependence in 2008 on the outside world is the same as it was in 1979. For example you mention the S300. Well it is clear now that Iran has S300's. Did we build them ourselves? No. And that is fine. Don't expect a country like Iran or Brazil to build one of the most advanced air defence weapons in the world on its own. So for the S300's, we are fully dependent on Russia.

Now regarding Iranian arms exports- the claim you read about 53 countries came from Iran. The same claim also mentioned a total figure of a couple of hundred million dollars total. That means an average of a few million dollars per country. That is nothing, it won't even get you one tank. That means that the deals are mostly small arms and rockets. And that is if we fully believe the IRI's claim. So once again, Iran made small arms and rockets in large numbers before 1979, so it is not like we never had the expertise.

The main thing that changed (and dramatically) was the political stance of Iran as a nation, which was to not be close to the west. There is nothing morally wrong with this, I am just saying that *in my opinion* your industry can develop more rapidly and more effectively if you don't take that stance. Case in point- look at China before and after Deng Xiaoping. I am not talking about pride and ego and feeing good and flag waving. I am talking about technological development. And yes, I am just as patriotic as anybody and would love for us to build the best technology in the world, and will help anyway I can.

Thanks again for your thoughts.

 

-FAIR


amirkabear4u

well what can I say ...

by amirkabear4u on

First of all a lot of industrial nations started from either copying each other or used experts from other nations and still do.

BUT WE ARE A NATION WITH 2500 HISTORY, IT IS TIME ALL OF US REALISED CIVILIZED NATIONS DO NOT  NEED WAR MACHINES TO BE SAFE. It is waste of money and Iranian people need this money more.


Fair

Ta key meekhahee mozoo ro avaz konee?

by Fair on

To faghat karet eeneh keh beh adamha tohmat bezanee va vatanparastee va shakheateshan ra zeere soal gharar bedee. Valee beh bahs keh meereseh, POOCHE POOCHEE.

Man meegam haghe tavahosh dar kodam gharardad va be kee pardakhte shod taht-e-onvane haghe tavahosh. To javabat een ast keh man Irani neestam. Javab-e- man ham be to een ast keh KHAK BAR SARET. Man Irani hastam, dar Iran zadeh va bozorg shodam, baraye een marzo boom jangeedam, behtareen dosthayam ra dar jebhe va dar aseman az dast dadam keh to KHAK BAR SAR emrooz baraye man ya har Irani-e-digar taklif roshan konee keh kee Irani hast va kee neest. Baad to meegee ma beedar shodeem? Avval boro KHODET ro beedar kon badbakht.

Alaveh bar tohmat, beh dorooghpardazi ham takhassos-e-faravan daree. Baz hey mozakhraf begoo keh man kheeshavand-e-tora maskhareh kardam. HEECHVAGHT man cheneen delavaranee ra maskhareh nemeekonam keh heechee, man een deliran ra ghahremanan=e vaghe'ee e Shahnameh meedanam. Man TO-e- khakbarsar ra maskhareh meekonam, keh tareekh ra meekhahe az no benevisi va ba doroghpardazee va besharmee kamel meegee Amrikaaeha keh raftan een havapaimah natavanestand boland shavand. Vaghtee dastet roo shod keh mozakhraf gofti, baad gofti dafe avval boland shodand, va dafeh dovvom hameshan ra andakhtand! Doroogh-e-dar rooz-e-roshan, heechvaght ham masooliat baraye dorooghayet ghabool nakardi, baad eenghadr porroo hastee keh baz esrar daree keh kesy beh harfhaye to etminan dasheth bashad.

Farghesh eenhast keh to az khodet dar meeyari, esbat ham nemeetonee bekonee, faghat meetonee dad bezanee keh "to Irani neestee". Man karam sanyeh-eh havapeimee hast va salhast keh dar een reshteh hastam, va baleh, man dar een mored ketab zeeyad khandam va meekhanm va kar ham meekonam va toosh hastam, va ba een jahl-e-kamel keh to neshoon dadee, meetonam begam kheili az to dar een mored vared taram. Va ba etmeenan-e-kamel meetonam begam keh dar een mored az Aghayan-e- Behrooz va Pollack keh to koor koorane meeyare eenja va zoor meegee keh eenha motekhassesand varedtaram.

Man khalabaneh zeeyadee meshenasam keh dar jang ham boodand, agar esm-e-kheeshavand-e-shahidat ra bedee ba ehtemal e zeeyad meetonam yek nafar keh eeshan ra meeshenasad ra man ham peyda konam. Man kheili khoob meedonam keh bachehaye Irani keh meemadand Amrika doreh bebeenand too doreh amoozeshi TOP boodand, choon man alaveh bar khalabananeh Irani, chand ta khalaban-e-Amrikaee neez meshnasam keh ostad -e-khalabani-e-shekari boodand va hameh dar een mored mottafegh ol gholand. Baleh, Amrika kheili az eenha ra khast negah dareh, khodeshoon bargashtand Iran, bazi as eenha ra khod-e-dolat-e-Iran rah nadad ba eenkeh jang bood va ehtiaj shadid bood. Kheiliha deegar ham nazire eenha dar zendan besar meebordand va eltemas meekardand keh een dolat-e-khaen ejazeh bedeh bejangand. Baad ba eenhameh badbakhtee een deliran 8 SAL jangidand bedoon -e-komake fanee-e kharejeeha, va to meegee eenha alamat-e-vabastegee hast. TOEE keh kareh een pahlevanan ro koochek meekonee, va ageh man eenja heechee nemeegoftam, to mozakhrafatat eenja beejavab memand.

Man tamam-e-dastavardha va natayej-e-zahmathaye motekhaseseen va bachehaye Irani ra dar har dore'ee keh boodand va hastand ra beenahayat ghadr meedonam, hala to har che mekhahee eenja doroogh bogoo keh man ghadr nemeedonam. Valee dalil nemeeshavad keh vagheyat ra bendazam to ashghal va khodam ra gool bezanam keh ma havapeyma sakhteem, dar sorratee keh nasakhteem, va to har che ghadr ham fohsh bedee va vatanparastee e man ya har kas-e digari ra maskhareh konee, fargh nakhahad kard. Baleh, man ham omidvaram va beenahayat khoshal meesham roozi keh ma havapeyma besazeem. Valee vaghtee nasakhteem va kesee oomad eenja goft keh sakhteem, man az oo soal khaham dasht, cheh doost dashteh bashad cheh nah. Va vaghti keh dar javabe man tohi mand va shoroo kard Irani boodan-e-man ya shaksiat-e- mara taht -e-hamleh gharar dadan, to roosh va meesam. Hala to boro har karee mekhaee bokon badbakht.

 

-FAIR


Cameron A. Batmanghlich

FAIR and Hajminator and all others ...

by Cameron A. Batmanghlich on

The new blog is up on the front page … Please join and let’s have a good chat wint a fresh  and constructive start.

 

Look forward to that.