Pictory

مصاحبهٔ رادیو

مصاحبهٔ رادیو فردا با میلانی و کاتوزیان خواندنی است. جالب است که در میان بسیاری از مصاحبه‌ها که رادیو فردا به مناسبت سالگرد ۲۸ مرداد انجام داده است، هنوز هم بحث بر سر کودتایی مبنی بر اغراق کردن در خطر حزب توده است.  شصت و هفت سال پس از برکناری مصدق ما هنوز هم داریم ترشحات حزب توده را نشخوار می‌کنیم و باز هم می‌گوییم در نفوذ حزب توده اغراق شده است! بابا جان حزب توده تمامی قشر روشنفکر و تحصیلکردهٔ کشور را در قرق خود داشت، جنگ سرد و شوروی هم آن بغل. دیگر چه دلیلی بیشتر لازم است که انقلاب کمونیستی را در یک فضای باز سیاسی -برای حزب توده- محتوم بداند؟!

هوچی گری چهارتا آخوند آیا می‌توانست جلوی گل سر سبد اندیشه‌های برخاسته از تجدد و سکولاریسم مانع ایجاد کند؟  آن هم در ایران تشنهٔ تجدد؟

Iranians are passed the

Iranians are passed the monarchy dark ages and will soon replace the nightmare IRI theocracy with a secular democratic republic.

Did I ask you to speak for me? 

Lies and Despotism Undid Him

The same fate awaits the Ruling Mullahs of Islamic Republic even though they hold Iranians hostage by the fear of God and gallows. Mohammad Reza Pahlavi proved to be an incompetent and weak autocrat who saved his own skin and handed the country to the only organized and politically active but least qualified and most regressive group of Iranians, namely the clerics. He was also delusionary based on Oriana Fallaci's report oriana-fallaci-interview-mohammad-reza-shah-religion.

Iranians are passed the monarchy dark ages and will soon replace the nightmare IRI theocracy with a secular democratic republic.

First we take Manhattan...

They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
for trying to change the system from within.
I'm coming now
I'm coming to reward them.
First we take Manhattan then we take Berlin
                                        . -- Leonard Cohen

self proclaimed major

Exiled Iranian sad sharaf darad beh beevatane mozdoor. 

As far as "on their way to nowhere", I suggest you take your head out of the very dark place it is now and observe where "exiled Iranians" are headed- they are one of the most successful immigrant groups in US history.

The most entertainment is not provided by historical speeches and clips, but by fake people coming here awarding themselves rank and accolades, and masquerading as real commentatiors claiming that night is day and day is night.

And finally, this website is closed to Iranians at home not by anybody else than the stateless terrorist government occupying Iran that you advocate. The publishers of this site have published this for ALL Iranians.  It is not their fault that the right of Iranians at home to read and believe what they want has been taken away from them.  A right that you so hypocritically fully enjoy while denying it to Iranians (a people you have abandoned and betrayed) and advocating the rape and torture and imprisonment of those who question this denial.

چند کلمه از فردوسی عزیز

برسم کیان خلعت آراستند
فرستاده را پیش اوخواستند

همین تاج و تخت از تو دارم سپاس
بوم جاودانه تو را حق‌شناس

که هرگز نگردد کهن بر برش
بماند کلاه کیان بر سرش

بماناد تا جاودان این بر اوی
جهان سر به سر چون تن و چون سر اوی

همیشه خرد بادت آموزگار
خنک بوم ایران و خوش روزگار

شاهنامه

(عشق به ایران)

R2D2 - unity yes, whitewash no...

R2D2,

I'm all for Iranian unity and bringing our nation together. I think the day that Iranians unify, you can mark the hours (not the days) to the end of IRI. But, you can't whitewash the past and rewrite history on the way to unity. That only opens a can of worms for even more serious problems. Remember, the revolution for Iranians can be summed up as getting out of a puddle only to fall into a well (Farsi proverb). Everyone on this site has the right to their own opinions, but the do not have the right to their own history. When we are repeating a 50 year old lie that the very people who committed the 1953 coupe admit to it being a lie and a smokescreen, we are not building unity. At best, those who repeat that lie are waiting for an opportune moment to strike again like a scorpion.

Unity? Absolutely, no need to blame this or that person. No need to live in the past.

Rewriting history? Hell no, I was young enough to experience not just 30 years of IRI repression, but also part of what let up to it. And, I for one will not make those mistakes again. 

Dariush

I Appreciate Your Kind Thoughts .....

Ali P. - speaking from my heart & memory’s of the Pahlavi era

Dear Ali P. ,

I don’t see myself as a political person for I see no “truth” in politics and as hard as I try to stay away and hold back from commenting on such topics what provokes me to do so at times is a deep personal feeling of wanting to side with what I would see as the “truth” or at least what I see and feel as the truth deep down in my heart.

Your comment:    

“What are our feelings toward Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, 30 years after his death? Some hate him, some love him, most/ I believe/ in between... I wish, of 1921 vistors of this page, more than 16 had left comments, so we'd know/ where we stand/ as a nation/ with respect to the last Shah”  struck a cord within me and as a an average Iranian motivated me to share my personal feelings, thoughts and memories about the Shah and the Pahlavi area :

  I also grew up under the Pahlavi era and was about 12 years old when the 1979 revolution happened all though I was very young I feel very grateful to gave experiences and seen both sides of the coin (Iran as a monarchy and Iran under the Islamic Republic) in contemporary Persian history.The way I see it before the discovery of OIL in Iran with what was left of the rubles of an old empire and civilization was a poverty and disease stricken 3rd world country similar to what we see in the far out villages of Pakistan and Afghanistan today, we were left on our own for we really had no value to the west. Our 2500 old history of monarchy may have not been the best system for us throughout our history for due to the fact that power was inherited from father to son, for every 1 or 2 productive and just king that ruled the country we had 8 that did not give dam about the prosperity or the nation and land and were too busy with self indulgence and pleasure etc.

I often have thought if not for the efforts of Reza Shah and his son Mohammad Reza shah through about there 50 years of power, who would have been an alternative candidate to modernize Iran and propel it to the state it was in up the 1979?

Was he the best leader? No, I don’t think there is such a thing for all humans have flaws.

Was it wise for one man to have all the design making power with no one to answer to? No , I think history has thought us that, perhaps after he left the country the military leaders would have prevented the 1979 revolution and find a more democratic solution if they had some decision making power

Did he make the best choice with “Mosadegh”? Probably not, I don’t see Mosadegh as trader, I think of him as true nationalist that cared about his country, perhaps finding a middle way to work with him and keep him involved would have been a better choice.

Did he make the best choice of giving so much freedom to the mullahs? I think we know better now, perhaps his father Reza Shah had had figured out how to deal with them.

Was he a true nationalist, did he really care about his people and country? I have no doubt about this.

 Was he truly in touch with his people and culture? Not as much as he should been.

Was he a good judge of character? For the most part, but too many corrupt people surrounded him.

Was he a puppet of the west? Perhaps at the beginning he was but at one point he had a change of heart and the courage to want to want to stand up for his country and people and put a stop all western exploitation of his country with somewhat of an “in your face attitude and perhaps that was the beginning to his end, I think what he had in mind for the future of Iran scared the crap out of western interests and it was decided to put a stop to him at any cost.

Shah of Iran on Persian Gulf, and American Jewish Lobby   //www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQgZ3oLp_WY

 Shah Of Iran Critisizing Britain  

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=imil1iIpIYA

Shah's Message to the "Blue Eyed People"   

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKYlvyZwHHU

R2-D2 Jaan that was a Great Article you wrote !!

I just read your blog: Friends (On the 1953 Coup, and looking forward) -

And Very much Liked your Honest assessment and sharing your personal experience in regard to our contemporary history.

I Salute Your Intellectual Courage as well as positive and constructive comments.

Thanks for sharing.

Respectfully,

DK

Iranian psyche&"taarof" bazy among obstacles to proper foreign p

Based on this taarof customs that we all know about, we find that if we are friends with someone -like Shah w/ US- we would have to shut up and always be nice and slowly subservient and accomplices.

 This is exactly why IRI religious leaders in particular don't want relationship with the US.  They think, by having relations they would have to stay mum about what the US does and always be goodie-goodie with the US.  We see that in IRI's relationship with Russia- where it didn't say a peep about the killing of Muslim Chechens and stayed quiet about the Russian invasion of Georgia.  Only to be sold out by the Russians for some enticing offers. 

The only way to break that mold is to change the way we think. 

The problem with some of us here is...

That they seem to think that there are only two alternatives for Iran: Monarchy or islamist regime. This mindset is really not only unrealistic (most people in Iran would reject both options, given a free choice), but somehow does not make sense. After all we had a anti monarchist revolution 31 years ago, and now people are rising against the islamist regime. 

BTW, this is not a comment against Late shah or pahlavis as a whole, just an observation. 

ggorgg and benross

I wrote the following comment in an article by Masoud Kazemzadeh several weeks ago

Friends (On the 1953 Coup, and looking forward) -

If you are interested in reading it, please click on the link - Make sure that you are logged in first .....

Based on your comments here, you would probably both disgaree with some of the stuff that I have written there .....

However, the most important thing that I have tried to get across to everyone is to look forward ..... And not so much backward .....

We Iranians Are A Talented People - The Genius That Brought About The First And The Second Iranshahr During The Hakhamenshi And Sassanian Dynasties, Respectively, Is Still Within Us - Let's Use Our Energies And Thoughts In More Constructive Ways .....

That Simple :) - !

Tks,

R D

benross...not even from the horse's mouth!?

No, don't erase your comment. You are fine just the way you are. It's a shame though. The same government that hired people like you to overthrow Mossadegh, wouldn't even give their satrapy asylum.

I too know to whom I'm writing. You are fine the way you are. Bury your head deeper in the sand, for the winds might blow the sand away and expose you to some ugly truth.

khejalat bekesh! 

ggorgg

Erase my comment. Quick quick. People are reading it. And people are reading it entirely. And then, people look at themselves, not CIA reports!

I know to whom I'm writing.

benross

"But bastards like Mossadegh don't fight for their country. They fight for their own glory and revenge..."

khejalat bekesh!

"and give the country to the communists!"

Dean Acheson admitted that the communist accusations were a smokescreen and the link was propaganda by the British to convince Eisenhower to aquaiece to the coup. The Dulles brothers (Secretary of State and head of CIA) were instrumental in spreading the British fabrication so that Eisenhower would give the green light. For references you can read any of the memoirs, autobiographies, or related books written by historians about any of these characters or the coup itself. You are flat wrong in perpetuating a myth that even the heavily redacted, and released CIA records seem to debunk.

Here are the notes by CIA agent Donald Wilber on operation Ajax. Read the part that states a question about who organized the "fake" Tudeh party crowds:

//www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB28/#docu...

CIA destroyed most of the documents related to operation Ajax. You should at least read the Western sources! 

1921 reads, and 18 comments

What are our feelings toward Mohammad Reza Shaha Pahlavi, 30 years after his death? Some hate him, some love him, most/ I believe/ in between...

I wish, of 1921 vistors of this page, more than 16 had left comments, so we'd know/ where we stand/ as a nation/ with respect to the last Shah.

Ali P.

Sargord: that was my 1st impression too..

When I saw the Shah's picture, I said to myself, oh no, that guy again! But after listening to what he had to say, I thought he was talking about a very important period in Iranian modern history. So what I'm saying is that our 1st impressions are rarely correct.

شاه عادل چون قرین او شود

شاد آن شاهی که او را دست‌گیر
باشد اندر کار چون آصف وزیر

شاه عادل چون قرین او شود
نام آن نور علی نور این بود

رو بر دل رو که تو جزو دلی
هین که بندهٔ پادشاه عادلی

بندگی او به از سلطانیست
که انا خیر دم شیطانیست

مشفقی مسکین‌نوازی عادلی
جوهری زربخششی دریادلی

شاه مردان و امیرالمؤمنین
راه‌بان و رازدان و دوست‌بین

  مولوی

مثنوی معنوی

(لزوم به عدالت)

Great history reference

It's also a reminder that after Mossadegh, the Shah was fully in charge.

It could have been Mossadegh speech ten years earlier (with preserving a level of political freedom in the country) if he didn't want to topple the Pahlavi dynasty and make the backbone of the new Iran -the army- headless, and give the country to the communists! In other words, if he was remotely willing to work with the heritage of Reza Shah in a context of continuation and evolution of what was there.

But bastards like Mossadegh don't fight for their country. They fight for their own glory and revenge... and yes, therefore the Shah took charge, like his father, and saved the country, with all fallible qualities that any one man show brings.

As for 'godless' thing, his father perhaps really believed it, but clearly for Mohamad Reza Shah was a fighting tool, with the help of clergy. He could not act like his father did, running the country solely based on the military infrastructure, the work of his father has already created a 'civil society' that could communicate at national level and he couldn't manage its growing presence without the help of their 'natural' representative. It was a fighting tool, yes, but in the impossibility of a level of political freedom -thanks to Mossadegh- it was also a necessity for managing the civil society.

SP - LOTS of post 1979 embarrassing Mullah Speeches r on IC 2

Are there any that you want to highlight?  Are there any worth listening?  How about:

Cause of Alzheimer discovered (according to hadith): //iranian.com/main/blog/mamane-omid/cause-alzheimer-discovered-0

Emam Ali: the discoverer of spotlight: //iranian.com/main/blog/mm-7

R2-D2 Jaan Well Apparently he did fear God ... ;0)

So I guess that makes him ... JUST :

//iranian.com/main/blog/khar-72

LOL

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE EMPIRE ! ...

FOR IT MAY STRIKE BACK !

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6bvuhPyq8Q

I wish

I wish Shah and Mosadegh who I believe both were patriots knew that Iran's enemies wanted that they become separated and be enemy of each other because if they had worked side by side and supported each other, we wouldn't have seen 1979 . We still see this fight between whom that should side by side fight against the creatures named Mullahs (which is synonym with murderers, rapists, thieves... ) but they aim at each other's hearts. I wish we worshiped our land more than anything else

He That Ruleth Over Men ...

Must Be Just, Ruling In The Fear Of God.

And He Shall Be As The Light Of The Morning, When The Sun Riseth, Even A Morning Without Clouds; As The Tender Grass Springing Out Of The Earth By Clear Shining After Rain.

The Bible ..... Old Testament

Sargord

Sargord Pirouz on Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:02 AM PDT

It's amusing how much pre-79 content gets published here on EXILED_IRANIAN.com.

All these middle aged exiles on their way to nowhere have to be entertained somehow, I guess.

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Very valid point. What are all these articles on Iran and its history doing on this website? Why don't we have more articles on Israel for crying out loud?

Conclusion: A King or Queen Should Reign But NOT Rule

As Any Genuine Constitutionalist Will Tell you:

LESSONS IN DEMOCRACY: Shapour Bakhtiar Interview with LA TV (1987) 

Footage of Pro Bakhtiar Demonstration in 1979 demanding the Respect of the Constitution to the letter as Opposed to a Revolution ( Here)

And would Repeat it on every occasion be it as Candidate to Prime Ministership:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8k6arXHado

Or Candidate to Kingship:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFjjjGwEDkQ&feature=related

This is Usually achieved in what is called a RESTORATION:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsRhuQ6Mzgw&feature=related

Anyone has a Better Idea ? Be My Guest ... Go Ahead ... Go Ahead ... Go Ahead ... Prove it :

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLprXHbn19I 

Related Blogs:

RESTORATION: Britain's 'Glorious Revolution' of 1688 and the 'Bill of Rights'

HISTORY FORUM: David Starkey - Return Of The King (5 Parts)

FYI/Political Pluralism & Freedom of Press in Pahlavi Iran(1961)

BBC's Panorama visits Iran in 1961 in this revealing documentary on the level of social freedoms and progress enjoyed by Iranians at the time. University Students are asked about the Freedom of the Press and Politics. Also the Shah is asked if he allowed the formation of political parties ( Non Communist). This was a decade before the creation in 1970's of the unified Rastakhiz Party which put an end to political pluralism in Parliament and tragically sealed the doomed fate of the Shah's Regime.

pictory: Political Pluralism and Freedom of Press in Pahlavi Iran (1961)

comparison

just compare what he says verses what the current monkies in charge past thirty years say, the difference is phenomenal. case closed.

Wasn't Khomeini a middle aged exile

???? :)

It's amusing how much pre-79

It's amusing how much pre-79 content gets published here on EXILED_IRANIAN.com.

All these middle aged exiles on their way to nowhere have to be entertained somehow, I guess.