Iranian of the Day

OnlyIran- Don't I know it. :-)

I've been dealing with these characters for more than two years now on this site. 

Thanks for the compliment.   

Sorry IG--your grade is a big "F"

As I said before, we are discussing Iran's human rights issues, not those of other countries.  If you want to discuss other nations' human rights abuses write a blog about it.  Better yet, write a whole book.  You can self-publish these days you know.  You can start with ancient Egypt and move your way up.  Just don't forget IR's best friends (like you conveniently have in your "list") such as Sudan, where Mr. Larijani's brother rushed to--to express his unconditional support--the day after Mr. Bashir was indicted for crimes against humanity.  But again, let's focus on Iran.  Please answer the following questions?

-When will the parties responsible for mass executions in the 1980's be brought to justice?

-When will journalists be freed --including Hossein Deraskhshan (who I am no fan of), the blogger who used to blog on this site and who was just sentenced by IR's kangaroo "court" to 15 years;

-When will the people who were arrested the in the post election demonstrations be released?

-When will the two female lawyers who were just arrested on phony charges be released?

-When will the women's activists who have been in jail for the past two years be released?

-When will the banned newspapers and magazines be allowed to publish again?

-What will happen to me if I excercise my right to free speech (in IR's constitution) and yell "marg bar khamnei" in a public square in Tehran? 

-When will stoning end in Iran?

I really don't expect an answer to any of these questions.  After all, these are your words:

 I don't have a very accurate picture of the human rights issues in Iran...

That pretty much sums it up.  BTW, why are you on "Iranian.com" if you don't have an accurate picture of such an important issue in Iran?  Tell you what: instead of spending your time researching what happened in France in 2005, or what happened in New York in 1977 (for God's sake) why don't you do a bit of research about your own country (if you're an Iranian as you pretend to be) so that you don't be so clueless when you discuss Iran's issues.  I mean, distractions and changing the subject to other countries in one thing, but to be so admittedly ignorant about one's own people in just appalling.    

IG jan

I do get that.

There is nothing TO understand my friend. It is just that there is so much happening out there that no one can deny it anymore (not saying that is what you are doing) nor can anyone claim that he or she does not have an accurate picture yet!! That is rather silly:)

That is like saying . Oh I have been hearing about this rabid dog running around my house, and in the neigborhood and i hear he has bitten so many people around here (the amount of Info you are exposed to), and you know what? But I still don't have a clear picture what exactly is going on!!  orI don't think that is anything serious!!

Nighty night...

Doctor Mohandes!

Thanks for your thoughtful response. I appreciate your time.

I just offer rebuttal on one of your points:

How could that even be? Your admission to the fact that you don't have a
good and solid knowledge on the issue Runs totally counter to your
assertion of "voluminous propagation" of information in that regard. How
can you be so sure? I guess in your mind sending and posting a few
blogs on this topic will do the job and that is even more than enough so
let's move on ha?

Being exposed to lots of information and actually digesting and understanding that information are two different things!

Good job AO

This is how one must deal with these characters.  See, the M.O. --which is straight out of  IR's handbook--is to immediately change the subject and get the debater mired in an unrelated argument when they are confronted with unanswerable questions such as the human rights record in Iran.  Their main talking points are,of course, Israel.  But as you can see, they also cite other countries too.  There's also a side tactic, which is this: when they fail to get you to talk about Israel,  even if you don't defend Israel (like you weren't below) by virtue of the fact that they have failed at their endeavorer, they start labeling you a Zionist, AIPAC agent, blah, blah, blah...  

The trick is, just like you apparently know already (hence: "good job") not to fall into the trap. They have you when you take the bait and start talking about their talking points, which they, miraculously, have all the facts and details memorized and ready to go. :-))

Have you ever seen Ahmadinejad's interviews?  He does the same thing.  When confronted with these creatures, one must stand his / her ground and ignore their distractions.  See, now he's at least dropped the Israel lecture and has moved on to other countries.  He started off with Israel / Palestine because IR's human rights record was being discussed.  But you stood your ground and have now gotten him to talk about the human rights issue. Again, good job! 

Gol Gofti Arthemis!!!

Gol Gofti Arthemis!

Nobody gives a flying F* about the Iranian people. They should wake up and smell the coffee!

The same people who are advocating harsher economic sanctions being imposed on Iran suddenly become overnight the most ardent human rights advocates of the Iranian people. Do they think that by making life more difficult for the people of Iran they will get the people to rise up and topple the regime??? If that's the case then they have learnt absolutely nothing in sociology and political science unless the economic sanctions are just a smokescreen!

Iranians throughout history have only made progress when they were lucky enough to have a good leader. Unfortunately the level of social consciousness of Iranians is quite low. They excel in individualistic endeavours but fail miserably when it comes to common undertakings! Unfortunately because of common language and culture they come into contact with each other and when their overall social well-being is not that good they start biting each others' A*. The trouble is that they do not know what is ailing them and even if they knew they would not know how to remedy it least of all how to cure it.

Immortal Guard

I don't have a very accurate picture of the human rights issues in Iran but based on the information being so voluminously propagated in the media the human rights issue in Iran is receiving more than its fair share compared to human rights issues in other countries even in the United States. There was even a comparison between that Sakineh Khanoum and the lady in the United States who was on the death row.

How could that even be? Your admission to the fact that you don't have a good and solid knowledge on the issue Runs totally counter to your assertion of "voluminous propagation" of information in that regard. How can you be so sure? I guess in your mind sending and posting a few blogs on this topic will do the job and that is even more than enough so let's move on ha?

The comparison that you are talking about was proved to be absolutely irrelevant, Given the totally different circumstances surrounding each one of the convicts. Two different countries and two Dramatically different way of looking at various types of Crimes.

But the human rights for a country that is in the Middle-East and is still considered a developing country should not be judged on the same scale as let's say the West-European countries

Reallyyy??? what a convenient cop-out! Not even considering the degree of such violation is much more severe than those of those other western countries right?? yeah.. who cares. Let us not make the irrelevant comparison. Do you realize that you are whitewashing the whole issue and sweeping things under the rug by making this carelessly and rather shallow and Ignorant statement?

Oh so. Yeah people, Wait till we get to the level of Germany in terms of The size of our economy and GDP, in the meantime why don't you all turn the F.. away and mind your own god damn buisness while we are beezeee making Economic improvemnets and doing what it takes and taking all the necssary steps in order to do so. as a Very famous Blogger here would say: KHodeti Haji!

Unfortunately this human rights issue is another aspect of the psychological warfare being waged on the people of Iran where sometimes even a minor issue can be overamplified and blown out of porportion. It all depends how much negative attention you intend to lavish on the population of the country and how you can push the buttons of the different segments of the society. This is also a media tool employed by more powerful countries to bring political pressure to bear upon the weaker countries.

 A WHAT??? another aspect of a psycological warfare?? are you really serious? Ohh You mean minor issue, such as writing a blog or an article and ending up on top of a freaking Crane for that right?? oohh ok. I see how this works now. Who has time to deal with this anyway right? after all we are just talking about losing one life , Just one, that is all. Yeah who really cares!!!!! Shame on you.

You cite a very good example, ie. China, You know why they did not go through with it? China is a good and trustworthy ally of IRI so i am sure if you really think about it and get the "a stil developing mid east country should not be getting that much attention" nonsense out of your head, you will see the connection,. I mean, That is I hope you do. Can you?...

So now the real becomes The clout the iranian media has vs that of the western media, I will be damned. What a clever way of turning things around and changing subjects!!! For that one alone you should An A++++. In fact a new scale and class of grades should be inveted just for this one.

So I think that if the people of France were subjected to destabilizing social policies implemented in Iran prior to the Revolution, then the actual Revolution, Hostage Crisis, Economic Sanctions, 8 Years of Imposed War, Brain Drain and Capital Flight they would have already turned into cannibals!

How audacious of you! The people of france were subjected to a lot worse, yet they did not succumb into dark times and Tyranny, and you know what else? They neved had to nor did they ever had to face that option, because no matter what they were going through and how tense the situation, their government always made sure to make it their top priority to take care of them. Hence No imposed wars, No misdirected and fallacious Foregin policies that would lead to "imposed" wars or capital flight and brain drain.

are you even capable of seeing and understanding the differece?

These guys all work

These guys all work together!!! World Powers have put on a real show for the entire world and mocking us every single day!!! Meanwhile, It's ONLY IRAN and the Iranians inside and outside who are getting shafted and abused day in and day out!!!And behind the scenes, I.R. and Israel do work together, the did before and still doing it... Mardomo Khar Iran roo har rooz khar tar mikonan...

All these bastards (directly and indirectly) work together because Iran is in TOP 5 richest countries list and has been the biggest business partners of all those countries!!! Everybody knows that by now or else is an absolute idiot!!! I mean look at Iran, after raping & destroying her for over 31 years, she has not gone bankrupt financially, or at least not yet !!! That proves how much wealth and money this country has... And that is exactly why these global bastards including their own installed regime (I.R.) occupying and torturing Iran and NOT letting go!! Wake Up Iranians, Nobody gives a flying F@$k about us!! We've got no one to count and trust to help us, but ourselves!!! 

Free Iran and Iranians.

Anonymouse Observer... Here is my thesis.... .... ....

I don't have a very accurate picture of the human rights issues in Iran but based on the information being so voluminously propagated in the media the human rights issue in Iran is receiving more than its fair share compared to human rights issues in other countries even in the United States. There was even a comparison between that Sakineh Khanoum and the lady in the United States who was on the death row.

But the human rights for a country that is in the Middle-East and is still considered a developing country should not be judged on the same scale as let's say the West-European countries!

Unfortunately this human rights issue is another aspect of the psychological warfare being waged on the people of Iran where sometimes even a minor issue can be overamplified and blown out of porportion. It all depends how much negative attention you intend to lavish on the population of the country and how you can push the buttons of the different segments of the society. This is also a media tool employed by more powerful countries to bring political pressure to bear upon the weaker countries.

I think that people in the Western hemisphere get dished out more information about human rights abuses in Iran than let's say the Chinese people. The Chinese media do not spend that much time or resources in order to promote that issue!

I think what the Iranian media should do is to turn the limelight on the shortcomings of the Western societies. For instance they should show the cracks that are appearing in the Western societies and the strains they are facing etc. For instance in France in the 2003 heat wave thousands of people lost their lives:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heat_wa...

Or the 2005 French banlieu revolts:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_civil_unrest_in_...

Or the inadequacy of the U.S. government response to the 2005 New Orleans Katrina hurricane:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina

Last but not least let's not forget the War Measures Act in Canada in the Quebec FLQ Crisis and how people were arbitrarily rounded up and tortured without any warrants etc.

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis

There is also the 1977 New York Blackout and the ensuing large-scale looting:

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_blackou...

Unfortunately the Iranian media still do not have the same reach and clout in order to hammer these issues abroad.

So I think that if the people of France were subjected to destabilizing social policies implemented in Iran prior to the Revolution, then the actual Revolution, Hostage Crisis, Economic Sanctions, 8 Years of Imposed War, Brain Drain and Capital Flight they would have already turned into cannibals!

I hope you liked my thesis! Do I get an A+?

Aghaye barkhiz zade

Fool me Twice

Farid zakaria as an ardent of an agent and folan mall az he maybe, he has two degrees from Princeton and Harvard and shows a much better understanding of the world affairs and politics than most of us. It is NOT his job nor is this the PLACE to put anyone on the hot seat,.

I am just baffled by why we expect every single journalist and interviewer in the world to put regime's official's feet to fire. I get it that we are all frustrated , But one needs to understand the proper place for taking biting actions against them is not the set of CNN or the charlie rose's shows. They are paid to Interview anyone from Castro to AN to those who might hate them With passion.

ajeebe ha.

I am sure the cycle repeats itself the next time one of them appears for an Interview.

MJL, Bar Pedar harchi adam

MJL, Bar Pedar harchi adam doroghgoo laanat! Yek mosht Arahgi(Iraqi) oomadand Iran roo saahaab shodand!!! In va 2 taa Baradar jaakesh va poofioozesh keh khoon mardom badbakht Iran roo to shisheh kardan!! tof beh rooshon... Hamoon khoda bezaneh to kamaret va harchi adam doroghgoo mesl toee, MJL!!! 

IG

Let's say everything that you say is 100% accurate.  You still have not answered the question: what does any of that have to do with Iran and human rights in Iran?

Larijani is supposed to be IR's "human rights envoy" (LOL).  Let's focus on the subject: what do you think about the human rights abuses in Iran and and how do you think the IR can be held accountable for its human rights abuses?

PS- try to answer these questions without writing a thesis about the Israeli / Palestinian conflict.  You can write a blog about that issue (and I encourage you to do so).  But this thread is about human rights in Iran.  Again, I know this will be tough, but try to write one paragraph about this, or any other subject for that matter, without  mentioning the word Israel. :-) 

Anonymous Observer...

The Iranian elite during Shah's time violated a very important and significant tenet of Iranian policy which actually should have been turned into a pillar of Iranian foreign policy: NEUTRALITY.

Iran should have adopted a policy of absolute neutrality in the region like it had declared neutrality during World War II and should have expended a considerable amount of energy in terms of secret service etc. in order to uphold that pillar. This would have spared Iran fluctuating economic and political fortunes and most importantly would have enabled a steady-state development of the country. Social peace for the population would have been the desirable byproduct. But what can you expect from a government when its minister of education in the 1940s and 1950s (according to Dr. Hesabi) did not know the difference between physics and chemistry. The intellectual shallowness of our elite and the weakness of our country propelled us into a quagmire from which we will not be able to elevate ourselves for quite a while.

As for AIPAC and Israel they have been quite good when it comes to tough talk and sabre-rattling and posturing but they have given way and buckled at the crucial junctures of history. For a people with thousands years of history they demonstrated remarkably no sense of history at all. 31 years ago the Berlin Wall symbolized the Iron Curtain and even Seaddam's Soviet-style regime was purchasing American airplanes and now it is the Israelis themselves who have willingly with their own hands erected a wall around themselves and the Russians are riding the American airplanes! This is the result of a supremacist policy on the part of AIPAC and Israel! 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA1wrvqDRNw

Last but not least the end of Israel won't be the end of the Jewish people if they pursue the right kind of inclusive policies from now on. No more superman hype!!!

OnlyIran and Spatima

You are both correct.  

Spatima:  That's exactly my point.  But in their feeble minds, everything is about Israel and Palestine.  

OnlyIran: You're right.  I usually try to stay out of discussions when they start blabbering about Israel / Palestine.  But sometimes, like this time, when they have this a@@hole (IR's "human right" LOL representative) here, and these idiots talk about Israel, it just gets on my nerves.  but, again, you're right.  i should ignore this character.  

AO, don't waste your time

Trying to debate with these "Jew on the brain" idiots (credit to Amir1973 for the phrase) is like chewing on your liver.  It's painful, and at the end of the day the only person who is hurt is you.  It's kind of like arguing with a software that is designed for one function.  Their function and purpose in the world is to relate everything to Israel.  That's all their capable of.  They have been doing it for the past 31 years, and think that it's the only way they can survive.

Now, in your comments, as you state, you have agreed with everything that this idiot says about Israel and have not defended Israel.  Instead, he's the one who, from the beginning, has been talking about Israel.  You have been asking him ebaout Iran. Instead, he is the one accusing you of "what is with you and Israel / Palestine?"  LOL!!!!

Don't waste your time.  he'll now come back and call you an AIPAC agent.  :-) 

ITS not about ISRAEL or PALESTINE

I dont understand why as a community we put so much effort in discussing a problem that has nothing to do with us or our national interests. What is at stake here is the future of Iranian peoples, which is being hijacked by different groups whether within or outside of Iran's borders.

@AIPAC:fix your grammar and spelling next time you attempt to be sarcastic because otherwise youd just sound like a 60 year old hizbollahi who thinks that the jews run anything starting from the icecream truck to internet. 

hope of a Free, Independent, Democratic and Secular Iran

2+2=4?

Well, bravo Mr. Zakaria. Once again it seemed the cat had gotten your tongue (pun intended). Time and time again Mr. Zakaria has had the oppotunity to really put this people under pressure, however he prefers to take out his nice, silk handkerchief and you know what.

It seems that there is no castle Impenetrable from the Tsunami of money spent by the Islamic regime in Iran (not of Iran).

Although I would like to fault Farid Zakaria, but he is merely an anouncer. he is handed down talking points and agendas, with an ear-piece. It is the policy behind it which makes it dangerous.

All this being said, let's not forget that WE could control our own destiny. Regardless of all the outside forces WE are capable of bringing about the REAL CHANGE in Iran. We shall be Vctorious only if WE UNITE.

Man Agar Bar-khizam...Toe Agar Barkhizi... Ham-e Barmikhizand..

Here we go, LOL!!!!

What is it with you and Israel and Palestine???

LOL!!!  I knew it was coming.  It's because I'm an Israeli, Zionist AIPAC agent.  :-))  I don't know what you're moaning about.  I have so far agreed with everything you said about Israel.  What, should I begin every comment with "marg bar esraeel?" Here, let's take a crack at it again:

 Israel has neither been able nor willing to integrate itself properly into that region! Their policy and politics in that region have been quite superficial and the people of that region are realizing that with Israel in that region no fundamental and lasting peace for the past 60 years has come about. 

AGREED!!!!!!!!!!! (I'm sorry, but I couldn't make the font any bigger for you to understand.)  But now, let's go back to my question to you:

How is that good for the Iranian people?  Israel is destroyed.  GREAT!!!! Marg bar esraeel, marg bar esraeel, marg bar esraeel, TAKBEEEEER.  

Now, tell me how that's going to improve the lives or the situation of Iranians.

I will also answer your question because it seems that you're too slow to understand it:

 What is it with you and Israel and Palestine???

What is with me is that I see people like you who call themselves Iranians, but in reality don't give a hoot about Iran and its people, and only have a clinical obsession with Israel and Palestine, and try to link everything in Iran (including the gooz AND shaghigheh) to Israel and Palestine.  That's how you have destroyed our country for the past 31 years.   

Now, if you have an obsession with Israel and Palestine, good for you.  Go there and fight.  I wish you all the luck.  Break a leg...kill a Jew...do whatever makes you happy.  Just don't bring your fight and obsession to Iran.  That fight is not our fight. 

Now- Again, for the nth time, Answer the freakin question: How is Israel's destruction (I hope it happens soon--just to shut people like you off) help Iran and Iranians?  Either answer the question, or kindly STFU.   

Anonymous Observer...

What is it with you and Israel and Palestine???

Israel has neither been able nor willing to integrate itself properly into that region! Their policy and politics in that region have been quite superficial and the people of that region are realizing that with Israel in that region no fundamental and lasting peace for the past 60 years has come about. So this guy is a mathematician and most likely extrapolating into future!

By the way may I add that he has quite a composed presence and is projecting an air of confidence!

As one says in Persian "dood az kondeh boland misheh"!

What a JOKE

The man is Iran´s so called ``High Council for Humam Rights`´ and not one question about human rights! 

Immortal Guard - GREAT!!! Really GREAT!!!!

I just don't see Israel making any headway in its dealings with the rest of the Arabs. This means that it will only slowly recede!

Israel gone.  Vanished from the Earth.  Palestine established.  GREAT!!!!! (Seriously, I mean it).  Let's celebrate it.  OK.  We're done with the celebrations.  

How is that going to be beneficial to the Iranian people?  That's the question.  Now, if you have an answer for that, please state it.  Otherwise, if you're just going to shout slogans, then just say so, and we will just ride the "marg bar esraeel" crazy train with you all the way and see where that gets us, because it has done us a lot of good already for the past 31 years.  

Anonymous Observer...

The chicken will come home to roost...

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I just don't see Israel making any headway in its dealings with the rest of the Arabs. This means that it will only slowly recede!

Immortal Guard

he excessive obsession of the American news media with Iran getting into possession of nuclear bombs and missiles shows that once there is a balance of power in the Middle-East Israel is doomed! Then the "osmotic" pressure alone will take care of Israel!

Great....I guess.  Israel will be "wiped off the pages of time." Yippiiiiiii!!!  What now?  How is that beneficial to the Iranian people?  Or is our sole purpose for existence as Iranians is to free Palestine?!!! 

The excessive obsession with nuclear bombs...

The excessive obsession of the American news media with Iran getting into possession of nuclear bombs and missiles shows that once there is a balance of power in the Middle-East Israel is doomed! Then the "osmotic" pressure alone will take care of Israel!

HAte

Israeli made Wigs... would that make a hard core Anti-Israeli?...

Zakaria is our B(t)oy! Otherwise, he wouldn't be on CNN!

Zakaria is pleasing his masters! It is us with his face in front. We can get him down anytime we want. Israel/US/Aipac don't give a damn about Iranians, for that matter about anyone else except their own. When are going to realize that? And you guys have been living here for dacades? 

Don't you see, everyone in charge of sanctions is a member of AIPAC? We are finally getting it right, now that we are totally in charge of it. Larijani is now trying to save face, but he really is begging to stop the sanctions! We want to rule Iran again!

We have everything, and you guys had this little site that you no longer have total control over it, since we can shut it down, if you are too much against Israel! Look around and see the comments from the zionists, AIPAC, and zionists symapathysers. They jump all over you anytime somebody speaks aginst Israel! Good luck!

• AIPAC rules even on this site, and there is nothing you can do about it! Sorry to disappoint you!

SHAME ON ZAKARIA

Let me get this straight

you invite a joker from Iran's supposed "human rights comission" and all you ask about is the country's nuclear issue and stance on israel

what a waste of prime time tv.

shame on you by dismissing iranians that died on the street this way

In hope of a Free, Independent, Democratic and Secular Iran

This is IRI for you speaking from both side of the mouth

Mehrdad

......

Nothing makes sense from this guy........he said, "Hostility is not authentic"...if that is true, but why did IRI just stage the biggest military exercise ever.....if hostility is fake, why does IRI want to buy Russian s-300 hardware so desperately? Apparently they take the hostility pretty seriously......

It is funny the way he explained "Death to America is not Death to America!"........it is incomprehensible!

This guy said, "Why not normalize relations with US?"

.....but Khamanei just praised US embassy takeover 2 weeks ago:

//iranian.com/main/2010/nov/khamenei-hails-us-embassy-takeover

When Khamanei talked like that, you know there will not be normalization of relation soon!

Mehrban - you have a point

I also noticed his Arabic accent.  I know that his brother (the head of the judiciary) was born in Iraq.  Perhaps he was too.