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moshe p

provide some evidence to back your claim - otherwise your claims are just another islamo-nazi lie.

Let us be honest about

Let us be honest about this! How many Muslim Iranian women with hejab you see in US and Europe and out of Iran that are doing so? How many so called Muslim without hejab and none Muslim Iranians do you see that are doing so?

You know the answers. Zero Muslim with hejab and tens of thousands of others without hejab. That is the fact.

Ok

what are you too lazy to type in some words and research?  Type in "Prostitution in dubai". Most of them are Russian, arab, Chinese, Africans etc...

Why don't you do it and post the links here?

Everything is sacred

search it up

Search up prostitution in dubai and you can view vids, articles, and stats.

Parthian produce ur own articles, documentaries, stats, etc.

Everything is sacred

Anonymous

I'm responding to the people who keep on mentioning "Iranians" in dubai as prostitutes out of nowhere whenever such articles pop up with no valid proof, and the point I'm trying to make is that you don't need to demonize the Islamic republic cause they have been demonizing theirselves by their own actions, especially when it's at the point where it embrasses the Iranian people more than it does the regime, ok? 

None likes the regime, so no need to use propaganda which is highly exaggerated to get more people on the anti-islamic side, cause Iranians despise the regime already, and it's very low to use such propaganda, and even lower to keep on blabbering it out with no actual proof or certainty.

I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make through.

Btw, the prostitutes in Dubai are mostly Eastern european, followed by Africans, Arabs, Indians and Asians. This is what documentries, stats and articles mention, and none of them mention Iranians, so I think they know more than you and I on this subject.

1 hour newcomer talks about "European" prostitutes in Dubai!

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Most of the prostitutes

first off, I would like to say that it's good that these bastards got arrested, I hope they rot in jail and drop the soap everyday for the rest of their life.

Further more, Most of the prostituttes in Dubai are russian, eastern european, Africans, central Asian and Arab themselves. Just cause they were smuggled through Iran doesn't make them Iranian/Persian, and the few iranians that do work there were stolen and smuggled when they were young... But of-cource there aren't any articles who mention Iranians working as prostitutes in dubai, it's all Russians, Eastern europeans and Arabs. I can only find ONE article about Iranians in dubai as prostitutes and that article sounds highly biased and racist. It's propaganda by Arabs themselves to ruin the image of Iranians, didn't you ever think of that? What vid or actual un-biased article mentions Iranians at all, just give me one that has good reliable source, you can't, and I'm not saying it's not happening at all, and trust me, it's horrible this crap is happening to our people at all even if it is a very small number, and the shameless Islamic regime is responsible cause of their stupid actions, but some of you people exaggerate and believe anything you hear like it's gods word, don't you ever think that there's an agenda behind such lies and articles?

Btw, could you people stop talking about crap you have no idea about, most of you people never even lived in dubai or visited, so get this in your thick heads, You have the right to demonize the Islamic republic, but be smart enough to make sure it's not at the cost of embrrassing Iranians, jesus, some of you people....

Karimi

Good luck with your camp

Yolanda and Agha-Irani. 

No, that is not my camp.  Both religions are being abused in both camps.  I am very well balance and comfortable in my camp.  But when i put both of you side by side, your newly adopted religion seems to disrespect and mistreat women much worse, but it is sugar coated with freedom, that is if you open your eyes and think about it.  Good luck with your business.

Karimi

Like Yolanda says why don't you go back to your sigheh and your 50 wives after a day of practicing your islamist sharia probably watching women being whipped and stoned at Evin or some other islamist hell on earth.

Apparently you will not debate with someone who has "no knowledge" - you know what? that says to me that your arguments are so flimsy and transparent that you are scared to even debate it with someone with "no knowledge".

Enjoy your days in the masjid and the howzeh with your experts who can barely read and pronounce arabic and yet this is their "expertise and learning".

Good bye islamist.   

Mollah Loghati

Why are you being so edgy?

You misrepresented your whole point,why such bache bazi? you had meant to say that you would not stand being lectured by someone who supports this regime because of the way they have treated women, On human rights and etc... But it came out wrong and i corrected it. No you made it your duty to point out a stupid misspelling? bache shodi?

be that as it may. I still think it is not.

Dr X

Ok - I take it back since you specifically deny it: you are not an islamist.  (BTW I also didn't like your tone but my aim on IC is solely to engage the islamists propaganda, not others)

Thanks for correcting my typo - here is one for you: REAMIN should I assume be remain.

Last you are of course entitled to your opinion as I am to mine - but one thing I would say is that if you go through all the posts - the majority view appears to be that sigheh is akin to prostitution.

Cheers 

......

I watched this documentary on IC called "Prostitution behind the Veil"....actually the documentary is about Sigheh, it is an eye opening video.....it showed a Mullah performed temporary marriage wedding ceremony.....a 60 year old man was paired up with a 16/17 year old girl....

//iranian.com/main/singlepage/2008/prostitution-behind-veil

Here is the documentary in its entirety: 

Part 1/

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQCw9Nk5YWI&feature...

Part 2/

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fxdjb42iK0&feature...

part3/

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3jQU6O2w84&feature...

part4/

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOjq8SBbaas&feature...

Part 5/

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfJe74AN7vg&feature...

sigheh = sanctioned Islamic protitution, period

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Agha Irani

Watch your mouth man:)) I am no Islamist.

 I read your post baba. And i am still saying that you are missing the point. Dating / prostitution take place ina completely different context. We have prostitutes in iran too UNFreaking fortunately:( But is so totally far from sigeh buisness.

BTW. genius you may want to go over your stuff one more time because when you say:

That people who support  such a misogynistic regime which has systematically discriminated against women for its entire existence (I see none of you want to continue the debate over child marriage, polygamy, stoning etc) <---- This

Then This sentence becomes:   have NO  right to lecture others over womens rights or human rights in general. Ok? makes more sense now doesn't it?

There are no diversions nor any deceptions except for the ones by YOU, Yourself. You are the one who is painting us all with a broad brush and calling us islamists for nothing. As if you are just looking desparetely for an excuse to shout that off the top of your lungs!

Your message has been understood. But the differences still DO REAMIN between Sigeh shodan / Date/ prostitution. Your main point does not change that fact.

Dr X, Ehasn and the other islamists

Dr X - I'm no ostad - and I take your point - you don't always get sex on a date.  Nevertheless read my post - I say sigheh is somewhere between a date and prostitution - personally I think of it as more prostitution than dating - read my post.

All of this is of course a distraction (a ploy by the islamists) from my original message:

That people who support  such a misogynistic regime which has systematically discriminated against women for its entire existence (I see none of you want to continue the debate over child marriage, polygamy, stoning etc)  have a right to lecture others over womens rights or human rights in general.

And all of you who keep on repeating your mantra that we on here are not islamist scholars - well you are absolutely correct - I am not a mullah, nor do I want to be one, nor do I want Iran to be ruled by them.  Their erudition and scholarship has taken the country back 1000 years - again do you get the message - the akhoonds, basiijis, hezbollahis need to go back to their mosques and stop interfering in affairs of state which for 31 years they have handled so incompetently.

I look forward to the next round of diversion and deception from my islamist counterparts! 

MM

So your problem is something else not sigheh. You wrote, if they left you alone. I think they are not forcing people to sigheh in Iran. There are millions who do it your way and some end up becoming sex traffickers and some become drug dealers and etc.  I cannot imagine what they would do, if they were left alone as you wish.

Be careful what you wish for !!! 

on the contrary, mon ehsan

It is the Islamists who cannot see the world in any other way than what is described in Shari'a and Hadith, and try to force-feed Iranians the stone-age "stuff".  If your friends left us non-Islamists alone, we would leave pius Sigheh / Sigheh seekers alone too.

What about those 72

What about those 72 virgins?? What kind of religion would have a whorehouse up in heaven??? The irony is that sex is frowned upon here on earth but up in heaven after you're 6 feet under it becomes a heavenly act, and in fact, it is heaven in and of itself. Something is wrong with this picture.

Agha Irani

I ain't no expert on this very much sciento-religio-socio-pyshological topic and i most certainly do not endorse Sigheism, but Dating western style ain't no where close to picking up a sigheh,.

In dating does not matter really who pays for what, the idea of the man getting the sex even if he has paid up, will still be in question until the Lady sort things out. he needs to play his other cards right on top of paying for dinner.There is no such thing, I have paid , I get sex. In sigeh, as wrong and Unrevolutionary and unethical as it might be, both woman and the guy know what they have gotten themselves into, regardless of whose name is one the sanction certificate. That is a fact .

So sigeh, for whatever it is or is not, can not be considered a sanctioned form of Dating, Ostad.

Faramarz, MM and HG!

Like your jokes - my Farsi isn't the best - but made me smile thanks!

Ehsan karimi

Tell me - in a country like Iran where virtue and virginity are prized assets for a woman - in your islamist paradise - other than a financial incentive what motive would a woman have to become a sigheh knowing full well that her virtue and virginity - her main assets will be destroyed as a result of a temporary marriage.

Tell me are you against dating - wester style that is?  (I'm sure you are) Cos in western dating sometimes the man may pay and sometimes not - but usuaully the guy gets to have sex - so by your own definition sigheh is no more than a mullah sanctioned form of dating.

The truth however is in point 1 - no woman in a conservative society would give up her assets unless she receives something in return - almost always this is money or its equivalent.  The only exception I can think of is when the islamists were about to execute virgin women and forced sigheh upon them the night before their execution so they get the sex and, in the bizarre thinking of the islamists, the poor girl wouldn't go to heaven. 

As someone said earlier -  you can try putting lipstick on a pig but its still a pig.  Sigheh is just a form of islamist prostitution/dating - the man gets sex, the girl gets money/dinner/gifts.

Again you are fooling no one. 

فرامرز

صرف فعل: به ترکه میگن کردم، کردی، کرد. چه صیغه‌ایه؟ میگه اون که دیگه صیغه نیست، جنده‌است.

فرامرز جان،

خیلی خندیدم! نمیخواستم اینجا بیشتر از کامانتی که فرستادم چیز دیگه بنویسم ولی نمیتونم جوکات رو بی پاسخ بذارم :)

لره رفت خواستگاري ,باباي دختره گفت مهريه ۱۰۰۰ سکه, لره گفت زياده يکي پيدا کردم ۱۴ سکه تازه حامله هم هست

رشتيه ميره تو يه خونه فساد ... زنشو اونجا مي بينه ، ميزنه زير گريه ....... زنش مي گه : چي شد ؟ ............. رشتيه مي گه : " منو ببخش ، به خدا رفقا اغفالم کردن که اومدم اينجا

همسايه رشتيه مياد خونشون مهموني. پسرشو مي بينه، ميگه ماشالا چه پسر خوشگلي. رشتيه ناراحت ميشه ميگه حالا يه کار واسه ما کردي هي منت بذار

یه مگس بسیجی به نامزدش میگه ایشالا قسمت بشه ماه عسل میبرمت دستشوی حرم امام

حرفهای من هم این چند وقت همش به این بسیجی ها ختم میشه

What's the "moral" of sigheh? not the financial side.

Everything is sacred

مردم مظلوم

غضنفر  تو حجله نمیدونه که چه جوری  به عروس بگه که مشغول بشیم!
میگه : شنیدم که تو میدی!

خانم فروشنده : آقااينجا سيگارنكش

خريدار: اين سيگارو الآن از خودتون خريدم

خانم ‏فروشنده : باشه ما اينجا كاندوم هم ميفروشيم دليل نميشه كه منو بكني

MM

The question was SIGHEH and i briefly explained that. Now, how some people abuse that. that is a different issue.  Just like Jihad.

یک داستان که من خیلی قبل پیش از یک خانم مسنی شنیدم:

یک روز، یه آخونده به یک زنی میگه: صیغه ام میشی؟

 خانومه میگه، واه واه! مگه من جنده شدم، صیغه بشم؟ ولی اگر همینطوری میخواهی، بهت میدم!