Iranian of the Day

Dariush C

"I am not saying IRI hasn't done wrong, but such criminals don't get up in the morning and pray and then go after their business." 

On the contrary that is exactly what the islamists do - are you now pretending that your basiji brothers don't pray?  I'm sure they do 5 times a day and its these same basijis who were raping not only women but young men too after last years protests (and long before that too).  What makes it a true mafia is that these same hypocritical basijis who are such conservative devout muslims according to you are paid by khamenei and ahmaghi to do their criminal dirty work.

"Most of the people who do this sort of crimes are the anti Islam and pro west and atheists."

So which is it?  Are your basiji brothers devout muslims or anti-islam pro west atheists - you contradict yourself.

 "You can sell your lies to some, but I have lived among you long enough to know better. Go look at yourself and your actions !!!" 

The only liars on this website are the propagandists of the islamist regime - you may have fooled the people in Iran who have no access to sources of the truth but even they now know you are all a bunch of liars.  Forget trying to fool those of us who have access to sources of information beyond your propaganda.

The days of your regime and its nefarious propaganda are numbered - why don't you go try to earn an honest living - it might do you some good.

On the subject of hijab, raised after my first comment

My first girl friend many decades ago in Iran was a very beautiful "chadori" girl from a baazaari family attending Alavi school. Some of you might know that Alavi was a religious-based school. I have to say she approached me first, and taught me a lot on that sinful subject...

Never increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

What a bunch of crap. You

What a bunch of crap. You all do the same in your daily lives and speak like a holy person here. The statistics are all around you and in the news.  I paid a surprise visit to one fellow like you who criticizes Iran all the times and he was watching porn on his computer in his office.  He also uses profanity on Islam and prophets and wears green bracelet and is in the opposition.  Most of the people who do this sort of crimes are the anti Islam and pro west and atheists. You can sell your lies to some, but I have lived among you long enough to know better. Go look at yourself and your actions !!!

I am not saying IRI hasn't done wrong, but such criminals don't get up in the morning and pray and then go after their business. These are from you camp.  Reality Bites. 

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ایناچرا موقع عکس انداختن حجاب و عمّامه شون رو گذاشتن کنار ؟ جای مهر رو پیشونی و ریش رو که نتونستن قایم کنن!

Reading some fictional ghol

Reading some fictional ghol v-allah does not make an immoral act such sigheh or polygamy, any less perverse, destructive to the fabric of society and family, or unethical.

But your religious laws do not render them moral or ethical. Being religious does not mean being moral, human or ethical.

Going to mosque doesn't make you a moslem/moral, as standing in a garage, doesn't make a you car.

Aghah-Irani: Barvo. The

Aghah-Irani: Barvo. The difference is that those medieval laws are the laws of the land in the IRI, which means they are embded in the jurisprudence and legal system of the entire system of government.

. That is what's so hideous about the whole state of affairs.

Also, young women who were victims of child-bride marriage mostly make up the women prison population in Iran because when they grow up, they kills their husbands..

Here is an article talking about that:

 //iranian.com/LeilaFarjami/2006/October/Male/

To 'Darius C'

Could you post the link(s) to the results of a scientifically conducted research that supports your claim that '...In US, there are much more 9 years old getting kidnapped and raped that in Iran getting married?'
Cheers,

Dariush C

Please spare us the propaganda of your islamist masters.

The difference between the "decadent" West and the backward misogynist islamist regime in Iran is this:

In the West they arrest and imprison the traffickers and care for the girls afterwards; in the islamist republic on the other hand, by law they allow girls as young as 9 to be married off - now that is pedophilia - and the islamist regime sanctions it - BY LAW.  Add to that the law of sigheh - legalized prostitution, and the law of polygamy.  THIS is exploitation of girls and pedophilia.  

And if Iranian women/girls object to this treatment? Well the islamists rape, whip and torture them in prison.  And to terrorize the people, they hang or stone them in public at the end.

These are examples of your foul, backward, decaying "conservative" islamist society.  

No one should be lectured on the rights of women, or human rights in general, by a worshiper of a regime which commits these odious crimes and attrocities.

So you can go on and on and on about the decaying West but it is you and your regime which has committed the greatest crimes against Iranian women.  

Your cheap and transparent propaganda fools no one. 

DC: LOL The more you

DC: LOL

The more you write, the more you expose your hyprocrisy.

vildemose

Sigheh is a temporary marriage and it is far different from prostitution because both sides should follow certain rules and regulations. 

How is that you often admire other Scandinavian and European countries and even Shah for legalized prostitution and now all of a sudden you are against it? 

How many nine years old have you seen to be forced to get married?  I haven't seen any. I don't know which village you come from, but in the cities no one will let their kids get married, if they are under 14 or 15. Even that is a low percentage and the average is about 20 to 25. 

In US, there are much more 9 years old getting kidnapped and raped that in Iran getting married. Do you disagree?  But you can only beat up Iran because that is in you. Now if they make that illegal and punish someone for it, then you will call it anti human rights. 

Dariush

Not all of the women sold into sex slavery are taken to places by force. Some are drugged, others are frightened (beaten, threatened) into silence and total co-operation, others are conned with lies and false promises; some others have their families back home under threat etc. The gangs that operate these rackets are very smart and have more than one way of coercing women into doing as they are told.

Yes, I am for freedom, but where did I say being for freedom means supporting prostitution? To me freedom doesn't mean allowing absolutely anything and everything to happen, regardless of consequences. Otherwise a society would breakdown under the resulting chaotic and criminal anarchy. For example, freedom of speech doesn't include people being able to openly incite murder and gratuitous violence. With freedom should come responsibility and the common sense to use it in a way that does not harm others and interfere with their rights to their freedom.

Dariush C

Please read my lines one more time. That is all about the victimized young and specially of our own young & not for defending the damned gangsters. All those criminals/responsibles along with the involved wealthy Arabs must be executed/hung right away. Why is it that expressing the truth these days evokes so much of anxiety to the"Kings/Amirs" & their associates???

MM those charges were last yr to traffic six women aged 17 to 22

They're already convicted criminals.  These current charges will put them away for a long time for younger girls like 14.

As far as wasting energy on Ahmadi & Co, they just love to blow the horn from the wrong end and feel better about themselves.  I'd recommend reading PW's blog in Farsi about how they are really like!  I won't speak for PW and his blog, but I can see them in his blog ;-) 

Everything is sacred

Daruish: What do you call

Daruish: What do you call Sigheh, which is basically Legalized prostitution?

There are even website online in Iran to do this?

//www.library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/tmpmrig.htm

What do you call girls as young as 9 years old being married off to men 3 times their age?? This is not slavery to you??

I call it legalized pedophilia. It's a sick perversion practiced by hundreds of thousands of perverts throughout the country.

Not aspiration - most likely desperation

Not Hollywood aspirations, but most likely desperation that drives families and these girls into a life of bondage with dirt-bags described here. 

I think that the gang got away cheap for promoting prostitution and more disgustingly, satisfying pedophiles.  Good old Brits.

What is more likely

That a 13 year old girl decides to sell her body for money because of dreams of Hollywood?

Or because she has been sold into sex slavery by her own parents?

Because she has been raped and beaten and threatened with more if she doesn't comply?

Because her family back home has been threatened with retaliation if she does not comply?

Because she has been drugged into submission?

Because she is illiterate, poor, hungry, and scared?

Because children are programmed to want to please the adult authority figures, even horrible, despicable, unscrupulous and abusive adults?

Because she has been sexually abused all her life anyway and this is just a continuation of the pattern?

Because the sex trafficking rings are achieving their goals with the help and cooperation of corrupt officials, including those who are supposed to guard the borders and inspect passports?

And if she does live in a fantasy make believe world where this act will lead her to a Hollywood dream, shouldn't we be all the more compassionate and commiserating that her lack of education, lack of family values, and lack of hope have led her to this point of view?

The frustration and anger should not be directed at these children but at the disgusting, repulsive, greedy, adults on both ends of the sex trafficking rings, the sellers and buyers alike and the people who turn a blind eye to it.

  Islamic Fundamentalism

Islamic Fundamentalism and the Sex Slave Trade in Iran

Donna M. Hughes

Professor & Carlson Endowed Chair
Women’s Studies Program
University of Rhode Island

 //www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/iran_sex_slave_trade

price of Iranian girls after entering the Persian Gulf trafficking market May 2005

 //web.archive.org/web/20060504050802//www.ecpat.net/eng/Ecpat_inter/IRC/newsdesk_articles.asp?SCID=1458

//www.iranfocus.com/en/?option=com_content&task=view&id=1840

Let's not Forget

Also - these are old operations which have recently come to surface because of recent bans and sanctions.

Demo

You just named some of the others in oppositions. The corrupt, the addicted, the prostitutes and etc.  Now, i know there are many in oppositions who are decent and have the right to oppose certain issues in Iran, But you cannot make an opposition backed with criminals and foreign powers and expect the majority accept it, specially the conservative. 

Yes, Demo. I am Dariush A-Z. I also was Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Behrouz Azarin and Dariush the king. This is because unlike you I don't kiss and therefore, I get blocked. So much for the freedom of speech by your kind. 

Darius ur comparing liberal sex w/ sex trafficking/kidnapping!

And you call yourself a "conservative", of the Islamic Republic variety I imagine!  Oh well, the conservatives always blow the horn from the wrong end. 

Everything is sacred

Dariush A to Z

Iran’s social diseases like addiction, corruption, prostitution, and etc. are the results of the corrupt ruling system, widespread poverty to the bones, skyrocketing inflation, injustice, and the possession of the country’s wealth by %1 of the population among many others.

Reality-Bites

Did you not read the report. They have been taking them to dance and make money and have told them for sex they make even more money. No one can be dragged out of airport by force.

Has there been other cases? perhaps, but for the most parts no one comes from a conservative family and become a dancer or else.

Now, if a conservative like me complains is one thing, why are you so upset? You are for the freedom of prostitution, gay, heterosexuals and etc. so what do you expect to come out of such freedoms? As your name says, Reality Bites.

Vast majority of girls r kidnapped or r in poverty. Hollywood??!

Being hopeless is the biggest issue facing young Iranians in Iran today.  These girls don't even know what is Hollywood much less having dreams about it.  The thought of a foreign country doesn't even cross their mind at such a young age unless they experience excruciating hardship in their life. 

Everything is sacred

Daruish

Is it all the fault of Hollywood and the decadent West?

If so, then how is it that there is such appetite for these young girls not only in Arab countries, which by definition are religious and anti-West etc, but also back in Iran itself, which has a huge prostitution problem (much of behind closed doors)?

I agree that some young women go into the trade through their own choice to escape poverty and attracted by the glam and glitz of big cities and money, but those are different from the girls who are conned or forced into a life of prostitution and wish to escape it, but can't.

The porblem is by no means limited to Iran and Iranian women. There is a huge sex slavery trade and trafficking South East Asian and East European women too. In Europe, Albanian, Kosovan and Serbian gangs, to name but a few, are very active in this filthy and dehumanising trade.

Reality-Bites

Almost all of these people get into this business, because of Hollywood dreams. They want to be free and do as they wish to make a good income to live big. They drop out of school, they don't want the lesser paid decent job. They have a major lack of family values and respect. 

They stay in business due to demands by simorgh and his kinds.

هم خلاف کار و هم خر

Tip of the iceberg

Trafficking of young Iranian women (and women of other nations), many of whom are just girls, i.e. not fully mature women, is big business.

Many of those inside Iran involved in selling young Iranian women to a life of sex slavery, particularly to Arab countries, can only do so in collusion with elements of the Islamic Republic authorities. Otherwise, how else can they manage to smuggle so many young girls out of the country with impunity?

And if anyone has any doubt about the numbers, just take a trip to Dubai to see how many young Iranian women are caught up in the sex trade there. And that's just one city.

Ali jaan sex trafficking by Iranians is big business.

Most of the Iranian sex trafficking is done by people like these in the Middle East in places like Dubai, Kuwait or other Arab countries.  It is really sad and heartbreaking and they're almost always young teenage girls. 

These were caught in UK but many catering to Middle Eastern countries don't get caught because of the investigative detail that is needed to catch the right people at top, 

Everything is sacred

We, the people...

These people are not Jews, or Arabs, or Americans, or the Brits...

They are Iranians.

Az maast keh bar maast....

They will rot and live the rest of their lives in a living hell.

Everything is sacred