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Democratic Islamic....

Republic might be a good choice to TRY.

In Mars & for the martians.

NOT on earth for Iranians.

there should come a group or person coming to Iran

And saying Iranians need and deserves AZADI

na ye kalameh kamtar & ye kalameh bishtar.

PEACE                  Maziar

Common Grounds

I guess Iranian diaspora are getting some common grounds after all. We hate this cult even more than the Islamic Republic. Who said we are divided!

B.T.W. No one mentioned NIAC. I'm shocked!

MG ...

Good point... I was actually thinking the same ....

I guess MEK is getting too much free publicity on this site !!

" IC is over-exposing, giving too much space to mojahedin? "

No, You are not the only one. I raised the very same issue, raising same sentiments, and was told that it is JJ's site, he does what he wants. (JJ did not telll me this himself, somebody else did) 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

on Gelnn Beck

Have you seen the Daily show take on Beck's departure from Fox news?

Jon cmae up with several theories:

1) Fox news wanted him on to inject ultra conservative opinions into the news cycle and make the rest of their programming seem moderate by comparison. But then things went awry . He started to believe his own messianic delusions and became a giant pain in the ass, so they dropped his ass ..... 

2) Beck has to leave because he's been sent here by Jesus  to take the 5:00 p.m. slot between Neil Cavuto and Shepard Smith for 27 m " . He tells the truth; he knows this is the "most perilous and tumultuous era in the history of mankind" and that the rapture is near. It was Beck's destiny to do the show, and leave it, after all:

PS.  Statira , We have plenty more ayatollahs that are much more  Glenn Beck  than Rafsanjani ... 

Disenchanted: On Glen Beck, I assure you:

 The moment he goes around telling people that god speaks to him when he has an epiliptical fit, telling him to chop off the heads off people who disagree with him unless they pay him lots of money, then goes about raising and arming an army to implement his "sharia" by force, he would lose more than just his "freedom"....

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Glen beck+ a turban

is Ayatoilet Rafsanjani.

LOL.....Disenchanted

 " and that voice! What a torment! Imagine being trapped in a a camp with no entertainment, no sex (!) and having to listen to that voice day in and day out! :-) I tell you what! I'd be ready to kill after a month as well! "

If I see this women's face one more time I'll throwup!

There's a fine line between between journalistic objectivity and becoming a practical mouthpiece for a group. As it feels that's what happening with mojahedin on this site?

Am I the only one who feels IC is over-exposing, giving too much space to mojahedin?

There so many other groups and movements, much more sunstantial and active in Iran, and they don't get a fraction of mojahedin's media exposure, why?

RG: How come deranged folks like Glenn Beck are free then?!

      RG says: "dangerous psychopathic men, which in a secular democracy would be locked in secure mental institutions".

       I say how come likes of Glenn Beck are free then :-)

       Have you heard his recent speech in Israel?! CHECK IT OUT

Islamist Marxism in display!

       If you noticed she uses the concept "anti thesis" right out of Marx's manifesto on one hand while promising "Islamic democracy" with another!

       These people are frozen in time. Reactionaries in modern age. My hunch is that the cult members have a very limited access to Internet. They have lost on all the developments since fall of Soviet Union and dawn of Internet communication!

       "Islamic democracy"?! Haven't we heard that before?! The truth in such matters can be found in speeches of Mesbaah Yazdi or other conservatives in Iran. They say Islamic democracy is nonsense. Islam is a theocracy. Without theocracy Islam would be "Eslaame Emreekaaii"! Mesbaah is correct on this one.

       Some fools claim that this cult has 5% support among Iranians! I'd say they either don't know math (what is 5%) or have no clue how despised is this group among Iranians. Just look at the comments below! Not one,not even one Iranian here  buys to claims of this cult! Of course you might say that is not fair. The reason their supporters are not here because their Internet access is limited and monitored! That would be true for members but not supporters. So there are no supporters to speak of.

        I have always maintained the best way to let people know this cult is to let them talk. As much as they try to portray themselves as modern and democratic, their true colors will shine.

        ...and that voice! What a torment! Imagine being trapped in a a camp with no entertainment, no sex (!) and having to listen to that voice day in and day out! :-) I tell you what! I'd be ready to kill after a month as well!

SF

Iranian people suffer because oF MEK being on board as opposition.  

1) Iranian people were the victims of MEK's  indiscriminatory attacks and killings during 60s in Iran

2) Iranian people were killed  via the siding of this group with Saddam

3) Iranian people have lost many of their naive kids to this cult and have witnessed the cruelty and tortures that leaders of this organization has brought upon their sons and daughters. MEK does not even have mercy on their own poor supporters.     

4) MEK has always given IRI  a good alibi to destroy any democratic movement..

5 ) MEK as an opposition group is going to be used by the imperialist powers hint our old good U.S of A.    They are going to be the fuel of yet another western imposed war on the region, this time on Iran. A war that only a fool can see it as a liberation or a way to bring democracy and freedom to Iranian people ...

Now Salman , you are acting so innocently naive and unbiased but the key is " ACTING"  and if you think you can sell the idea of Islamic Democracy by even bringing up MEK in such a manner I should say to you my brother that YOU ARE SO WRONG..... 

SK: "Which sharia law? Most are just man made "

Correction: It is ALL man made. .For that matter, some highly dangerous psychopathic men, which in a secular democracy would be locked in secure mental institutions for their own and societies safety.

Thank you for leading my arguement to it's logical conclusion. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Ayatoilet, Wrote my Comment on

This crazy, jobless, power hungry & stupid woman.

I have no brother!

@Salman Farsi: Would you please stop calling me your sister? I have no brother!

About MKO: I think they got slaughtered because of the bad choices they made. Most of them were slaughtered by Rajavi and the way he let them down before escaping Iran after revolution. Some others were killed because they didn't want to be part of MKO. Many got killed by the Iranian Army during the war...and some were killed while trying to empower IRI.

It all shows why I can't trust their judgment!

Dear RG

I am not a Muslim and do not adhere to any of it. But I know a lot about it. We had years of relative secularism during the Shah's times. I will be happy for something like that. Obviously it worked in Iran for decades. 

RG

Which sharia law?  Most are just man made laws which has nothing to do with Islam..... besides even if it does, Still following it or not is a choice and it should not be force fed to the muslims...

Basically what I am saying is that I am free to choose to go hell ...... now how can any other creature on earth can take away the rights that God, himself, has given to me?  Not to mention that the majority of so called man made Shria's laws if I choose to follow, I actually have chosen to live in hell ...... 

VPK is right about the Politics behind the radicalization of this religion.  It actually sells more weapons and helps drilling more oil .... LOL 

Brother VPK and sisters Soosan and Azarin

I believe that MKO are my muslim brothers and sisters. You may think they are traitors or misguided but I see them as my brothers and sisters who have to be given the right to express themsleves. I am not their follower nor sympathiser of their politics. My stance on them is purely Islamic.

I chose my words carefully sisters. Among the opposition groups no other groups have been slaughtered the way the MKO have been. I agree with you that the people of Iran have suffered the most but we are talking about activists here.

For an Islamic democracy

VPK, what is actually "being done" in America?

Are you referring to the large "muslim" population in USA? How many of them actually adhere to the strict interpretation of Islam per Iran/Saudi arabia? I know of some somalian immigrant youth in Minesota who did just that and ended up in al-qaeda camps in somalia. I am not going to go into the issues created by "islam" in European countries with large muslim immigrant population.

Your Turky example is "suppression" of islam by the constitution as opposed to "separation".. 

I dont know how much you know about Islam, but as a "muslim", you really need to live by "sharia" law, not the law of the land, hence the constant sense of unease, conflict and social unrest amongst  "true muslims" who end up living in secular societies for one reason or other. .....

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

Ervand Abrahamian

Radical Islam: The Iranian Mojahedin (London: 1989).

What I am trying to say is

we should not just go for a Republic but actually a Democratic Republic .....

@Salman Farsi

Yes, I agree with you that "hate" is a strong feeling and I shouldn't hate anyone. But there is an exception to any rule! I hate the IRI (because of all its crimes against humanity) and if you think this is a wrong feeling, I have to disagree with you. I'd rather take the side of Humanity.

Voila a summary of MKO history: MKO crowd helped Khomeini to bring IRI to power and then they got into a power struggle with him. They let down many of their supporters in Iran and left them to be executed by the regime. They escaped to Iraq and joined Saddam in "his" struggle to destroy Iran. They killed many innocent Iranian soldiers who were defending Iran’s sovereignty. Plus their ideology is the combination of two failed ones: Political Islam and Marxism!!

There is no justification for all these choices. That’s why I call them a bunch of lunatics if they really hope to find a fan base among Iranians.

In my opinion, they are just fighting for gaining political power (which is nothing but a worse dictatorship)...that's all. Azarin

PS: Your choice of Salman Farsi as your ic id and your support of MKO seems coherent.

great points VPK

To add to that is the fact that Democracy is not the right of majority but the right of individual...... every single person in the society has her or his own rights.  Of course it is the vote of majority that puts someone on power but that majority can not and should not deprive the rest of the people from their rights.   

RG

Actually it is being done in America. We do have Muslims and Separation of Religion and State. All you need is to not force other people to your religion. IRI and Saudi are poor examples. How about Turkey? 

The problem is that West is deliberately fanning Islamic radicalism. I am not sure why but no doubt about it. The Libyan fiasco proves it. Not to mention Iraq and Afghanistan. Both are occupied by the West. The West could write any constitution it wants for them. What does it do: gives them an Islamic Republic! Why I ask? West gave Japan a democratic constitution. This business about "majority vote" is BS. When you conquer a nation you are responsible for it. Give them a secular government.

Brother Salman

What is your position on MEK? Just wanted to get it from you.

Regarding hate:  Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you. Good! Your hate has made you powerful. Now fulfill your destiny and take your father's place at my side!

قسمِ حضرتِ عباست رو قبول کنیم یا دم خروس رو

Firstly "Democratic Islam" is like military intelligence and oxymoron so keep it to yourself and for your gang.

Secondly, by "democratic Islam" do you mean what governs the Camp Ashraf and what those folks live under? Is that what you envision to turn Iran to? Just a bigger camp Ashraf?

The path to freedom for the rank and file of MEK is to hand over the top leadership of MEK to the international court of justice so they can stand a fair and just trial for their crimes against IRANIANS during the Iran-Iraq war, Kurdish and Shiite Iraqis and the rank can file member of MEK who have suffered much at the hand of these psycho criminal

'Hambastegi' is the main key to victory 

Mehrdad

SF

Actually Iranian People are the ones who are paying the price because MEK is on the opposition side ... 

Islam like any other religion, unfortunately, is  subjected to various interpretations so it should be kept away from politics .... 

JJ "Separation of religion from state"

Can not be applied to islam. Islam is a political ideology, not a religion.

Islamic republic of Iran and Kingdom of Saudi Arabia are shining examples of Islam in action.... 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

MPD, U cracked me up and U R so right

بدبخت بودیم بیچاره‌تر شدیم

Sister Azarin anb brother VPK

Hate is very bad. You should not feel hate towards anybody. And let us face it Mujahedin have paid the highest price among the opposition in their struggle against the IRI. Your feelings are misguided.

For an Islamic democracy