Reza Pahlavi: Human Rights

Speech at joint press conference with lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei



Mohammad Mostafaei at press conference:

16-Dec-2011
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amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Arj

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

I have seen RP on tv discussing breach of human rights in past pre-IRI, albeit much of what was said in the 70's was for propaganda purposes and the scale of it was very different from what was portrayed, but that does not excuse that it did occur and that I totally agree wth you human rights breaches by anyone has no statute of limitations.  I spoke with an old communist in Italy this year who is the longest standing political prisoner in Iran (a disgusting thing to have experienced and be famous for).  He told me he was never torture by savak and prison was not at all harsh during shahs time, he has written about it, and that he was tortured by the IRI which kept him for many years later and prison was a nightmare by comparison.   


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear Arj

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I will take up your questions


Dear APFSM, I have a simple question for you; did breaches of human rights happen during the previous (Pahlavi) regime?

Yes But not nearly to the degree that is happening now. 

If the answer is no, then you must live in a parallel universe to the one I do!

I said yes but I wish I had "Sliding" technology. I will leave that for the QM blog.

But if it's yes, I have a follow up; shouldn't RP who claims to be an advocate of HR also condemn the breaches of human rights in that period of time and prior to that?!

In theory RP should but not right now for practical reasons. The practical reasons are to focus on today not 40 or 60 years ago. If he does that if will defocus the attention. It will draw parallels between Pahlavi and IRI hence legitimizing IRI which I do not want. 

Besides it will turn off some of his rabid supporters. But it will not gain him support from Pahlavi haters. Therefore it will be a net loss hence a bad move. The better option is to make up for those violations by his own actions. 

If RP were to help rescue Iran from IRI he would have made up for all those violation. Also please remember the Pahlavi did a great deal of good. They were nothing like the terrorist regime that is infesting Iran and running it now. 

Thanks,

VPK


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Very telling posts

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

The response to RP shows me where people stand on future of Iran. Do you want to rehash old hates or move on. We have a stark choice: hold on to hate or be a part of a new future. I chose the latter as has RP.

I don't care what Mossageh or Shah or Shaboon did. I don't give a *** about a 1953 slogan. I say "Mihan" and forget about the rest. We got real problems to deal with and some people are worried about 60 years ago? 

You are not going to get perfection and waiting for it is a waste of time. I say take good for now and worry about perfect later. Hooshang you have some good points but I still think RP is the best we got.

  • Iran needs a glue to restore out national sense. I believe RP may be that. Will he: that is to be proven. I am very hopeful and willing to take my chance with RP.
  • Yes the VF is  a version of Monarchy. But it is a convoluted sick version. Regular Monarchy is nationalist and far better for people. But I agree it is not fully democratic if the Monarch has real power.
  • Monarchy is not an insult: how many of you live in UK?

Arj

Sorry, where are our manners?!

by Arj on

Dear APFSM, I have a simple question for you; did breaches of human rights happen during the previous (Pahlavi) regime? If the answer is no, then you must live in a parallel universe to the one I do! But if it's yes, I have a follow up; shouldn't RP who claims to be an advocate of HR also condemn the breaches of human rights in that period of time and prior to that?!

That is all I'm asking, for if he does, then I believe in him as a genuine advocate of HR and not only I applaude him, but I do what I can to take his message across! But if he ignores the breaches of human rights prior to 1979 revolution, I'd know he's just a politician who's in the business of HR for political gains!


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

I applaud RP

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

I have been asking for him to get off his back  do something. Now he does and I applaud him for it. People, time is passing if you want to dwell in 60 years ago you will be left behind as history moves on. 

Dear Arj: this is not the time to be digging up old fights about 40 years ago. We are in today and now. If you want to go there we will be fighting while the Mollahs rape. That is what got us here in the first place. 

  • RP right now is our best option to rescue Iran.
  • I do not hold RP responsible for what Shah did. I want a new chapter
  • I want to focus on now instead of 30 or 60 years ago. 

Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

amirkabear4u

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 


I am very concern if this RP is so good in politics and human right why DOESN'T he face ahmadinejad every time he visits NY.

I am not RP but I will reply to you with my thoughts. These are just guesses but good ones I believe. Personally I would not meet with Ahmadinejad based on these reasons.

  • Maybe he knows facing Ahmadinejad is pointless. What good is gained from a face off between them?
  • RP does not want to meet with a holocaust denier. He considers Ahmadinejad too much a scum to meet.
  • RP does not consider the guy a legitimate president. Therefore does not want dignify him with a meeting .

Hope it helps,

VPK


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

TL, HTG, Arj, Arthimis, Amirkabear4u

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Ladies and Gentlemen, where is your applause and congratulations for Reza Pahlavi's stand for human rights?  You fantastic Five need to get busy.  This deserves all our support, unconditionally, as it matters for all Iranians. Please show your willingness to make this a moment of celebration for Iranians.


Arj

Slogans and stances

by Arj on

Dear RG, please, enough already with slogans! "Anti-fascism" and "Islamist facism" is not going to hide the elephant in the room! No one here (as far as I know) is talking about "class warfare!" As we except Musavi, or anyone representing IRI, to condemn IRI crimes back in the 80s and not merely the current ones (the reason; no statute of limitation on human rights), we all have the right to ask RP to clarify his stance on HR during the previous regime. If he deliberately avoids such clarifications, it indicates his lack of committment to the issue and his merely expediant political posturing!  

Hence, if he genuinely stands for HR, he should condemn their breaches without hesitation, whether they have taken place before his family was in charge, during or after! There are no expiry date or statue of limitation on breach of HR and related crimes! Simple as that! What does that have anything to do with class warfare?! 


amirkabear4u

So typical of RP supporters

by amirkabear4u on

I asked one question and NO ONE even tried to answer me?

Why does he stand from a distance and says " lengesh kon ".

I am open to sugestions.


Shemirani

Excellent Speech & move

by Shemirani on

Thank you to bring Human rights issue at forefront !!!! We all condemn the violence and massacre inside our homeland !

 

" Man farzande sarzamini hastam" ...... Ke fossilhaye 57 emmam dar mah didand o in jahanam baraye ma kashtand !

 

 


Roozbeh_Gilani

Support for a specefic policy/actions/stance of a person.....

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

which fits well within the general context of the  democratic, anti fascist struggle of Iranian people against the Fascist Islamist regime, Does not translate into the support for the institution to which that person is associated with or a member of. Far from it. Are we allowing our extreme dislike for a past Dictator and it's legacy to completely blind us to the fact that the challenge at hand today goes well beyond class struggle, that the challenge today is formation of a broad anti Fascist united front, strong enough to  absolutely and comprehensively defeat  Ismaist fascism?

left wing communism, an infantile disorder. 

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


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Ary Az Mehr jaan, I was really missing you. And thanks for your

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

advice on my dosage of Viagra. You know at my age, now a days I save all that for only special occasions, like shah's birthday and such.

But to share a pesonal secret with you, the pills don't work no more, but instead whenever I look at those old pictures of Ary Az Mehr my flag gets so raised, straight and long, I  don't know how to account for it. Do you have any advice on that?


Arj

اندر باب ذوب شدگان در رضا شاه دوم!

Arj


Dear TL, RP may have not been a partner in his father's breach of our nation's human rights. yet, since he is representing the same institution as one implicated in those crimes, he should at least condemn them as he does IRI's crimes! Otherwise, it will only be a matter of who is allowed to trample on people's rights and who's not! If he really stands for human rights, he should also condemn the breaches by the previous regime! Failing to do so, it'll all be a smoke screen to which our nation is in for a rude awakening (even on a wild card basis)!

With regards to the 'zob shodegan dar Pahlavis,' if their slogan; "khoda, shah, mihan," is any indication. they put god and an unelected king ahead of our nation. That indeed is where their loyalty lies; hence, the illusion that Pahlavis were the owners of the country, and still are, and possibly, will be so, so long as their future generations go! They believe that Iranian people owe them and should pay the price for not appreciating them enough!

However, as religion whose symbol, god, does not have a significant part in iran's new generation's day-to-day lives, monarchy whose symbol, Shah, belongs to the histroy books from their POV, would not fare any better!


AryamehrNYC

Hooshang...

by AryamehrNYC on

Put down the Viagra old chap....they are not meant to be used as Tic Tac's...


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Bravo Tiger Lily jaan (II). Encore.

by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on

TL jaan, I personally found your comments refreshing and profound, and unlike the previous pseduo Bravoist I commend you.

What these people don't understand is how much of an insult the whole institution of monarchy is to human intelligence, and taste, not to mention dignity.

Vellayat Faghieh comes right out of, came right out of Ary Az Mehr.

Is there really that much of a substantial difference between these two institutions? No.


Arthimis

Bravo Tiger Lily!

by Arthimis on

Once again you showed your bitter, uneducated & uncultured personality through use of profanity... This proves volumes about your upbringing... You just vomited on your own "Academic Education" if in fact you had any... lol :D

You are NOT even worth answering to because the sane people of the world have already read, seen, heard and experienced the "Historical Facts" and Truth about Persian History! It's wasteful for me or anyone like me (which are many...) try to prove anything to a "Bi-Adab" little girl like you... Once a "Bi-Adab", always a "Bi-Adab"!

Aval az har cheez, Boroo yek zareh "Adab" befahm va yaad begir! shodi mesl AhmadiNejad keh vaghti kam miareh, shoroe mikoneh be Fohsh dadan ..., Tazeh ishoon Doctor ham hast... lol :D)


shushtari

damesh garm....

by shushtari on

im proud of him

as I always say, the way those idiots in 1979 betrayed his father, I'm surprised he gives a crap about saving iran......

it shows he's a true lover of iran...... 


Elham57

Well done!

by Elham57 on

Good job Reza Pahlavi!

You'll have my vote.


Tiger Lily

AND ONCE AND FOR ALL

by Tiger Lily on

This latest idiot is not responsible for any of his father's very serious human rights violations, BUT, if he makes a claim to his heritage, then he IS RESPONSIBLE   for ANY CLAIM made.


Tiger Lily

amirkabear4u, don't you know?

by Tiger Lily on

We Iranians are not worthy of the Pahlavis. At one stage we were even told on street placards of an offer to leave the country, if we sort of didn't like the dictatorial one-party rastakhiz party. Some people just wanted to sit or lean on a tree. So they were offered a passport to LEAVE THEIR OWN COUNTRY!


Tiger Lily

Arj, thank you for your insightful post

by Tiger Lily on

It's reverence, fatalism,

extreme poverty and an embedded fear of it and all the rest of it. It really is very saddening.That's inside Iran.

diaspora, don't start my tongue! 

 

:)

 


Tiger Lily

Arthritis

by Tiger Lily on

show me one reputable paper , in your own words "(scientifically proven)" that disproves what I've said.

Shut the crap and stop trying to shut up people who talk and type the truth instead of shahollahi historical revisionist

 

crap

 

cut the crap

stop wasting everybody's time with your own crap.

I repeat my question:

" has anyone done a study about percentage per capita of human rights abuses in Iran within the past 60 odd years, since the foundations of the UN?  
"

 

 


amirkabear4u

RP supporters

by amirkabear4u on

I am very concern if this RP is so good in politics and human right why DOESN'T he face ahmadinejad every time he visits NY.

Lets see maybe CIA told him not to. Well he is not a king in Iran yet he is already a puppet. What else could be stopping him doing a discussion with ahmadinejad??

Fairness and Equality in Justice


divaneh

Thanks RP

by divaneh on

Reza Pahlavi is a very good politician and one of the most active. He is an excellent candidate for a future president of Iran. It is shameful that some Khaye maals who have never done anything good try to bring him to disrepute.


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Well done Mohammad Mostafaei

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

You are an outstanding human being and I respect your work.  Shame on the IRI for persecuting you and trying to destroy your life for doing your work.  I wish to meet you one day and Nasrin Soutodeh in our Iran and to celebrate your triumphs with you in person. I am your fan and appreciate your courage and work.


Roozbeh_Gilani

I applaud RP for what he is saying

by Roozbeh_Gilani on

in defence of human rights in Iran. thank you.

Despite the fact I am an anti-monarchits, had my dear family members jailed by SAVAK when I was too young to know what was happening around me, I find it very difficult to understand why he should be blamed for anything his father has/supposed to have done. Reza Pahlavi, at least  knows who his father is, if you know what I mean :)

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Zendebad Reza Pahlavi

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

I wish Freedom, Human Rights, Dignity, Free & Fair Elections, Unity, Progress and Peace to be the common Goal of All Iranians.  I am grateful we have you Reza Pahlavi as a leader during these difficult times. 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Tiger Lily its your own sensitivity/issue,

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

Reza Pahlavi listed every major Iranian philosopher & poet after cyrus, and highlighted the importance of Iranian culture before Islam.  I believe Today, we need to be reminded of this, especially when there is a real cult, and its not the cyrus cult but the islam cult, that is causing grave damage to Iranians.

Talk like this doesn't make Iranian culture a laughing stock anywhere, It is actions like we see by IRI that disgrace Iran.  You should be praising him.


RostamZ

He finally found his voice

by RostamZ on

If he makes human rights in Iran his mission and push on this issue in the international scene then he will be remembered as a great man in Iranian history. If not, he will become a dot in the history of Iran. A man who could have done great things but chose to stay silent and be indifferent to the cause of his countrymen.


Arthimis

Pendar Neek & Tiger

by Arthimis on

Pendar Neek & Tiger Lily!!!

In regards to Reza Pahlavi & Cyrus The Great, You two are both wrong, 100% .

@Pendar Neek : Reza Pahlavi is NOT responsible for his father's actions in the past as he was an under age boy in 1979 ... Besides, 95% Iranian people today take his father, Mohamad Reza (RIP) over present regime in charge in a heart beat... So please don't mix things up! Your type of mentality & approch on this particular subject (which is very similar to I.R.!!!) is one of the main reasons why IRANIANS are still NOT UNITED after over 32 years of darkest Iranian history!!

@Tiger Lily : Your comment here about Cyrus The Great and True Persian (scientifically proven)History proves that in fact " You  are continuing to make Your own Views about the subject,  the laughing stock of the world or at least the ones who see your bitter comment here on IC."

Let go of your own personal EGOS and bitterness if you truly have the Best OF IRAN & IRANIANS in your hearts and minds!!

LOVE & PEACE 

Free Iran and Iranians.