isdciran.org: Forbes blog - The Iranian Mujahideen e Khalq, (MEK), also known as the People’s Mujahideen Organization of Iran (PMOI), has found some unlikely supporters in its latest request for protection from the UN – including former homeland security secretary Tom Ridge, former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, and former congressman Patrick Kennedy. Yet the organization, based in Camp Ashraf, Iraq, is listed as a terrorist group in the United States (and until recently, in Europe) – an irony, its leaders say, given that it, like the US and European Union, opposes the Iranian regime >>>
Patrick Kennedy speaking to Mojahedin supporters in Paris, June 18:
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hajj khanoom
by Soosan Khanoom on Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:32 AM PDTDuring revolution every one got united against shah by supporting Khomeni ...... Are you suggesting we do the same now and get united against IRI and support MEK? The difference is that back then no one had any idea now we are more mature..........
know that the enemy of your enemy is not always your friend .....
A stupid mistake but not a crime
by hajj khnom on Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:22 AM PDTMany people rightfully, criticize this organization for moving to Iraq in the first place which I totally, 100%, agree with it. It was very stupid mistake but they were under delusion that they can topple IRI in a short time and it seemed from all neighbors countries IRQ was the only place let them stay and get organized but MEK had never participated bombing IRAN. Moving to Iraq was a mistake but not a crime
So much hate; So Strange!
by hajj khnom on Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:14 AM PDTWhat is the reason you want the leader of this group in the court? Shouldn’t we get united against IRI rather than this group (MKO/MEK/PMO or whatever their initial is). If, you think, they do not have any support in Iran, then why are we helping IRI against this organization?
"So much hate; so strange!"
by پندارنیک on Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:32 AM PDTNo one hates MKO. Any expression of hate will distort the due judicial process which awaits them. I would hug the MKO's leadership all the way to a court of justice.
So much hate; so strange!
by hajj khnom on Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:25 AM PDTI have read most of the comments here. Some of you hate MKA the same way that IRI does. I have not seen even one reasonable debate in this site. I personally, never vote for this group (never agreed with their views in the past either) but definitely, do not wish them dead and tortured by IRI. Why do you take a same position as IRI against another opposition group? It is just strange! So much hate in air. IRI trained us well
Post it one more time
by hajj khnom on Fri Jun 24, 2011 09:51 AM PDT//www.bbc.co.uk/persian/indepth/cluster_30khordadd60.shtml
BBC Review of 1360
by hajj khnom on Fri Jun 24, 2011 09:48 AM PDTBBC has a review of 1360 resistances and massacre of MKA by IRI.
MKA made a mistake by choosing violence and taking gun but IRI was brutal and still is.
//www.bbc.co.uk/persian/indepth/cluster_30khordadd60.shtml
VPK: I applaud you for taking action
by Bavafa on Fri Jun 24, 2011 09:20 AM PDTWe all ought to take the responsible action and phone/write to our representative in US.
I am on it to do my part.
I can stomach an occupied Iran under foreign forces easier then seeing Iran occupied by this traitor and dictatorial cult.
Mehrdad
MM
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jun 24, 2011 08:04 AM PDTI know. Just phoned and wrote my congressman and Senators. The people who picked up the phone were nice and listened to me. I just hope that we are able to keep America from making this giant mistake for us.
As you all know I am no friend of IRI. But we all know what we are in for if MKO gets to power. God help us all. Heck they can put sanctions even bomb {which I do not support}. None of this will compare to the horror of MKO regime.
I just hope we are able to get out collective *** together and do something. There are a lot of us in USA. Specially in California. People: write; phone; go to town hall meetings. Do not let it happen to Iran;we are all gonna regret it.
Bolton Receives Warm Reception - to Bomb Iran & support MEK
by MM on Fri Jun 24, 2011 06:26 AM PDTStatira
by Simorgh5555 on Fri Jun 24, 2011 04:10 AM PDTI agree with you to a large extent. The MEK did a good thing by eliminating the IR cockroaches. However, they still need to be held to account for their betrayal by thrusting the revolution which destroyed the future of a whole generation of Iranians. It is hard to forget the image of Rajavis hobnobbing with Khomeini and later Saddam Hussein. Nevertheless, they have balls I will give them that and by engaging in another killing spree against the murderous and barbaric Mullahs such as Khamenei they will be doing Iranians a favour. At the same time run the risk of getting themselves killed in the process. I am only to happy to see a properly implemented targetted assassination campaign. Israel and the USA both do.it. However, my reservation is that the MEK cannot be trusted and giving them too much power is.dangerous. The regime will not go without a fight and this is evident. Any airstrikes campaign must be supported by forces on the ground. An Iranian Liberation Army must be established but in the midst of such unwillingness to confront this stark reality it is no wonder people like Patrick Kennedy are lending their support to the MEK.You can condemn Patrick Kennedy all you like but he will be asking where ids the alternative and that the Iranian opposition should grow some balls.
Latest: Patrik Kennedy in Hiding!
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Fri Jun 24, 2011 02:01 AM PDTHaving read the ferocious protestations of the revolutionary masses at iranian.com, some armed to tooth with Wall Mart purchased mouse, keyboard and assorted USB, BT and WiFi enabled devices, Paddy, in utter fear for his life, has decided to leave US on board a USN sub for a top secret safe heaven.
That serves him right. I say send them all back to Ireland and let them eat potatoes!
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
The Kennedy
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jun 24, 2011 01:52 AM PDTfamily was one a major player in American politics. But now they have degenerated to this low level. I got to agree with the youtube comment. Actually even at their best the Kennedy family was never much of anything.
JFK forced the Shah to do the disastrous "land reforms". He also nearly started WWIII and destroyed all man kind. His brother Edward was implicated in the death of a woman while drunk.
Read //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy#Chappaqui.... Patrick: take your ill gotten money and shove off. We don't need you. The youtube guy was being too kind to you.
MM
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Fri Jun 24, 2011 01:44 AM PDTI already said that I agree with you. Will be phoning and writing both Senators and my representative to warn them against the MKO. Yes I agree JJ should put up a page for us to help oppose MKO. NIAC may also help here.
I am 100% opposed to any kind of cooperation with them. I do not even want them used as cannon fodder. It is playing with fire and Iranians will get the worst of it. MKO never did any good for Iran from its inception to now.
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by yolanda on Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:24 PM PDTThis video does look like MEK's commercial......the way they chanted "Viva Ashraf" & "Viva madame Rajavi"...... it sounds staged!
P Kennedy was probably reading from a script written by an MEK's PR consultant!
It is 2 minutes of flattering sound bytes!
Here is the statistics at the moment on you-tube:
306 hits for this video
4 people like the video; 10 people dislike the video
Here is a scathing comment written by a you-tube poster (not by me, no way)
Patrick, Go F*** yourself mother f**ker and let Khamenei f*** you and your entire family. How much money did you get to say these things mother f**ker?
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OMG!
Sheila- yes MKO
by statira on Thu Jun 23, 2011 09:05 PM PDTIt was MKO that killed all those I mentioned before. Forghan group formed right after revolution, they killed a couple of Hezbolahees including Motahari and then vanished soon after.
None of the people were killed by MKO were innocent. Rajaee was a rajaleh who was even worse than Ahmaghinejad. That rajaleh was the one who actually started the idea of forcing Islamic hejab on Iranian women and he was as ugly and shabby looking as ahmadinejad. I'm not a fan of MKO, but I applause their actions for cleansing Iran from those Islamic trashes.
WHAT WAS HIS SPEAKING FEE?
by Ayatoilet on Thu Jun 23, 2011 08:40 PM PDTI heard Rudy Giuliani also spoke for the MKO in front of cameras. I would love to hear how big Patrick Kennedy and Giuliani collected. They would plaster their face on anything for the right amont of green backs.
statira- not MKO
by Sheila K on Thu Jun 23, 2011 06:45 PM PDTBeheshti and many others were killed by the regime itself, Forghan. It was a clean up effort to remove other Islamic faction within the system itself. MKO executed series of terrorist acts including killing innocent people with their bombs, but they were almost swiftly subdued and subsequently destroyed.
At least
by statira on Thu Jun 23, 2011 05:21 PM PDTMKO killed some of the nastiest Islamic regime official mullas or mullah look alikes such as Rajaee, Beheshti, Ghodoosi, Bahonar, Dastgheib and many more. I have to say that at the time many Iranians really enjoyed their killing spree. They need to be used again to start another round of assacinations against the current Islamic regime. By relying on Mousavi, Karrubi and Khatami, Iranian wont get anywhere.
They Killed Americans
by Faramarz on Thu Jun 23, 2011 05:01 PM PDTJust read and judge for yourself.
//humintel.blogspot.com/1991_05_01_archive.ht...
//www.iran.org/news/mek-resources.htm
O' Kennedy...
by پندارنیک on Thu Jun 23, 2011 04:28 PM PDTOnly a Kennedy can forgive and forget the blood of the American military personnel who were assassinated by the MKO.
MKO was desperately in search of a Democrat, and finally found their man who would sing and dance for a bottle of Scotch.
The question of who paid for this show is a valid one.
A huge change
by statira on Thu Jun 23, 2011 04:24 PM PDTfor the organiztion to become so pro-American. I cant believe these were the same people who assassinated Americans and officials during those old days. But let's not forget that all the victims of 1988 massacre by Khomeini's regime were suppoters of Mojahedine Khalgh.
VPK
by MM on Thu Jun 23, 2011 04:23 PM PDTI agree that none of these people are in office. But, the way consensus builds in D.C. is by groups such as neo-cons as well as these so called liberals to label the MKO as a democratic alternative to IRI, see, e.g.,
Neocons and the MKO
John Bolton at MKO rally in France
To make matters worse, many of our representatives do not know any better, and they DO look for focus groups for guidance. So, if they do not hear from us, the message of the focus groups will be what sticks in their mind. All I am saying is that we need to educate our representatives to do the right thing by not considering the MKO as a democratic alternative to the IRI.
And, the representatives certainly do care when the constituents, especially en mass, inform them of a matter dear to the constituents.Reza Pahlavi
by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on Thu Jun 23, 2011 04:19 PM PDTWho cares?
by Hamid Y. Javanbakht on Thu Jun 23, 2011 04:25 PM PDTSometimes people do counter-productive things simply to prove a point, and yet all they prove is their stubborn ignorance and myopia. Change is happening in Iran, it is organic and fundamentally by, of, and for the people. The politicians who endorse the MEK are trying to look like they're rooting for the underdog and don't really care if they are on the right side of history, unfortunately sometimes people only hear the stories they want to hear, and can warp their perspective to accommodate prior investments. The "investment" of the countless "martyrs" produced by the MEK makes it all the more difficult for their supporters to let go and move on. This reminds me of the difference been teleological and deontological ethics: The former determines the rightness or wrongness of an action dependending on the consequences or effects it produces, and perhaps this why people support the Rajavis, believing the rightness of their actions have yet to be vindicated. The latter type of ethics however denies that the consequences of an action or rule are the only criteria for determining the morality of an action or rule. There are many subdivisions and overlaps, but these are the main two. I believe deontological ethics requires an ability to place value on the actions themselves regardless of the outcome, while for teleological ethics the outcome is what determines the value of the actions. Both have advantages in different contexts, however I believe the outcome is never reached, it's always in a process of becoming, and so the freedom of Iran is not like pushing over a statue, it requires the capacity to see things from more than one point of view. As Confucius says, "Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."
amirparviz
by Simorgh5555 on Thu Jun 23, 2011 02:59 PM PDTI 100% agree with everything thst you have said. The threat that pose should not be underestimated.
This guy is an idiot, period.
by Benyamin on Thu Jun 23, 2011 02:53 PM PDT@@@#$%^
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by yolanda on Thu Jun 23, 2011 02:29 PM PDTAccording to wikipedia:
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Mujahedin_of_Iran
All of the witnesses restated their claims about the PMOI camps from the 1991-2003 period, saying PMOI officials subjected them to various forms of physical and psychological abuses once they made known their wishes to leave the organization.[98]
According to Mohsen Kadivar and Ahmad Sadri writing Salon.com,
Countless first-rate analysts, scholars and human rights organizations -- including Human Rights Watch -- have determined that the MEK is an undemocratic, cultlike organization whose modus operandi vitiates its claim to be a vehicle for democratic change.[99]
In an interview with RFERL escaped MEK leader Abdul Latif Shardouri (aka Abdollatif Shadvari) who says he had been in the MEK for 25 years stated that his family thought he was dead because he had had no contact with them during those 25 years. "Using the telephone, mobile phone, Internet, and even listening to radio is forbidden in the organization."[100]
The issue is, as [MKO leader Massoud] Rajavi has said many times, whoever wants to escape from Ashraf will be punished with death and execution. Not only me, but many of my friends who are now in Ashraf don't have the possibility to leave the camp. Escape is the only way.[100]
MKO is not popular, but with US Support and Packaging
by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on Thu Jun 23, 2011 02:17 PM PDTthey can be made to look like angels... the main stream media is a lot more powerful than your imagination would allow you to believe.
Just like Khomeini, who had 25,000 mercenaries being trained in libya, by the PLO, the MKO can deliver just as many once given the blessing of US resources.
The big difference is MKO killed many Iranians on Iraq's side during the 8 year war, while for example monarchists were offering to fight for Iran like Reza Pahlavi though they were denied. So MKO is prepared to go with any Iranian enemy if powerful enough to help them. And that is the reason they have no grass roots support in Iran, just extremist.
MKO like Khomeini can deliver the right message for the Islamist crowd to get their support, though this time they will have considerable opposition from the people who are completely unarmed and vulnerable.
As for forces, Reza Pahlavi, could easily find support within Iranian families to create an army, however that is not his position nor would any western country back him, like they did khomeni or MKO.
Wests interest in these groups is long term, to despoil Iran and ruin it's economy. Reza Pahlavi's monarchist foundation has ability to create too many educated people and develop Iran so he while popular in Iran is not popular outside to the point where you guys shouldn't pin any hope on him.
His brother was taken out by just 2 bullets, and you think he has a hope of going back. The best thing he can do is talk up democracy for Iran, so as to slowly awaken Iranians to realize that the western powers do not want that for Iranby seeing how little they supporttruly democratic leaders.
By the way the main stream media will portray MKO as democratic, sick joke I know, but you have to know what their strategy is.
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by yolanda on Thu Jun 23, 2011 02:14 PM PDTLOL! Bi-sharaf!
Thank you! VPK!
Sorry, DK, for my poor choice of words!