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04-Jun-2011
Haleh Sahabi, 54, was a distinguished Quranic hermeneutician, a religious comparatist, a women's rights scholar, and a committed activist to the cause of her people's civil liberties. Haleh Sahabi was sentenced to a two-year prison term after she had joined a rally in front of the Iranian parliament in the aftermath of the contested presidential election of 2009.
While serving her term in jail, Haleh Sahabi was informed of her father's impending death. He was the prominent Iranian dissident Ezzatollah Sahabi (1930-2011), a revered democracy activist, known and admired for his mild manner, open-minded generosity of spirit, a liberal demeanor, and a commitment to non-violent activism on a religious-nationalist platform for over half a century.
Haleh Sahabi was briefly allowed out of prison to be present for the final days of her father's life. Ezzatollah died, at the age of 81 on May 31, 2011. Millions of Iranians in and out of their homeland were saddened by his death, deeply grateful for his moderate and caring positions, even those who did not agree with him.
His funeral began on the following day, June 1, under tight security control, and - according to a number of reliable eyewitness accounts- including those of Ahmad Montazeri, the son of the late Grand Ayatollah Montazeri, and Ahmad Sadr Haj Seyyed Javadi, an aging opposition politician - a band of organised plainclothes security forces began to disrupt the funeral, ridiculing and humiliating the attendants, and moved to snatch the body of the deceased from those who were carrying it for a proper burial.
Haleh Sahabi, leading the funeral, tried to prevent the disruption, while holding on to a picture of her father. The picture was violently taken away from her by a security agent and she was hit on her side. She fell to the ground in the scuffle and soon after died of a cardiac arrest.
The International campaign for Human Rights in Iran holds the plainclothes security forces responsible for Haleh Sahabi's death, and has called for an official investigation. "The shameful actions of government thugs in this incident reveal a deep contempt for traditions that belong to all Iranians, and they have resulted in a tragedy," said Hadi Ghaemi, spokesperson for the campaign. Shirin Ebadi, the Iranian Nobel Peace laureate, has declared Haleh Sahabi's death,"intentional murder".
In Sophocles' Antigone (circa 442BC), we learn of two brothers who died fighting each other opposing sides of Thebes' civil war. The new king, Creon, decrees that one of the two brothers, Eteocles, will be honoured, while the other, Polyneices, will suffer the public shame of not being given a proper burial.
Antigone, one of the two sisters of the dead brothers defies the royal decree and decides to give her damned brother Polyneices a dignified burial. She considers it her duty, even at the cost of defying the law of the land.
Over the centuries, Antigone's courageous and principled stance, made against the royal decree, has been the source of the most cherished reflections in the entire tradition of Greek inspired humanities. For more than 2500 years, Sophocles' tragedy has been the source and inspiration of the most enduring and insightful reflections on the nature of citizenship, political dissent, civil disobedience, moral obligation to one's family, duty to one's God, and the rule of law. So much so that is it impossible to imagine the Greek foundation of any claim to humanity and civilisation without Antigone and other tragedies of Sophocles.
We - Arabs, Iranians, Afghans, Africans, Asians, etc - are in an inaugural moment of our renewed claims to our history, humanity and dignity.
Today in the streets of Tehran, Kabul, Baghdad, Damascus, Cairo, Tunis, Tripoli, Sanaa, Manama, and scores of other major and minor cities from the Atlantic to the Indian Ocean, our people are busy writing the allegorical parables of our future claims on who and how and what we are. Our people are writing new legends, crafting new metaphors, coining neologism for our emerging poetries.
Modern day heroes
Remember today the names of Hamza al-Khateeb, the 13-year-old Syrian boy who was brutally tortured and mutilated by Bashar Assad's agents in Syria; or Mohammed Bouazizi, the young peddler who set himself on fire out of economic desperation in Ben Ali's Tunisia; and Neda Agha Soltan, the young Iranian pro-democracy protester who was cold-bloodedly murdered by the security agents of Ayatollah Khamenei. They join the names of Abeer Qassim Hamza al Janabi, the 14-year-old Iraqi girl gang-raped and murdered by US troops and Muhammad al-Durra, the 12-year-old Palestinian boy murdered by Israeli sharpshooters as the iconic parables of a dramatic unfolding of a renewed accord of a people with their destiny.
They are the dramatis personae of the living legends that our posterity will read in their history books, literary genres, moving poetries. The brutish regimes that rule over our lands will in one way or another come to an end and will leave behind nothing for their leaders than ignominy and infamy.
In Antigone, we are faced with the law of the land contravening the rule of traditions. But here and now, facing a vicious and wicked regime that is over-anxious about its own lack of legitimacy, Haleh Sahabi wrote in her living memory a different drama.
The Islamic Republic is so terrified of any public gathering, especially over dead bodies of its dissidents, precisely because this is the manner in which it took over from the previous regime and that it abused to outmanoeuvre its ideological rivals in order to stay in power.
The Islamic Republic is a republic of death and dying, a republic of fear of the living and thriving. Haleh Sahabi did not break any law to honour her father's right to a dignified burial. She exposed the banality of the evil that rules over some seventy-odd million human beings, a banality that has not even the decency of allowing a dignified burial of an 81-year-old father, without causing the death of her mourning daughter too.
Ezzatollah Sahabi lived a long and fulfilling life. Haleh Sahabi was cut down halfway through her dignified extension of her father's causes into unchartered territories. Antigone defied a human law to observe a divine mandate, a moral commandment. Haleh Sahabi defied the ghoulish last shrieks of a dying theocracy to lay the foundation of a new ennobling legend for her people: The legend of Haleh Sahabi - the daughter who did not allow the body of her noble father stolen by ignoble fiends.
How many brute and cruel tyrants have come and gone? But we only remember the glorious, the defiant, the courageous Antigone.
The Ben Alis, the Mubaraks, the Gaddafis, and the Khameneis of our history too in one way or another will eventually become a boring footnote in some future history book - the titles, themes, and empowering dramas of which will blossom around the names of Antigone and Haleh Sahabi.
Tonight Haleh Sahabi, a daughter who came out of prison to bury her father and honour his passing to eternity, sleeps prematurely but peacefully in the vicinity of that father.
Among her other courageous endeavours, Haleh Sahabi was a member of the "Mothers of Peace", a group mostly consisting of mothers whose children had perished at the hands of thugs employed by the garrison state to preserve it a little longer, each woman committed to reduce the intensity of violence in their homeland.
Somewhere between defiant daughters and mothers of peace, the future of Haleh Sahabi's homeland is in very caring and capable hands - the hands of the living and the life-givers. Like Antigone, Haleh Sahabi is now the budding seed of an ennobling tragedy that will sustain her people's renewed struggle to demand and exact their inalienable rights to freedom and liberty, for the dignity of daughters and sons being allowed to bury their fathers and mothers in peace.
Rest in peace, gallant sister, our own mighty Antigone: Haleh Khanom Sahabi.
First published in Aljazeera.et
AUTHOR
Hamid Dabashi is Hagop Kevorkian Professor of Iranian Studies and Comparative Literature at Columbia University in New York. He is the author, most recently, of Iran, the Green Movement, and the US: The Fox and the Paradox (Zed, 2010).
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Salman Farsi and Islamic democracy
by Siavash300 on Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:42 PM PDTFrom the very beginning the dynasty was established on two foundations. One was Shi'i and the other Persia, and Esma'il concentrated more on the first than the second. His hatred of the Sunnis knew no bounds, and his persecution of them was ruthless. The alternative for the majority of the Persians who were Sunnis, at the time, was either convert to Shi'ism or accept death. Conversion must have been rapid, because half a century later Iran was a Shi'i country and gradually became an island surrounded by a sea of Sunni Islam. While regretting the cruelty of forced conversion, modern Persian historians are generally agreed that the establishment of Shi'i religious hegemony saved Iran from being incorporated into the Ottoman Empire.
Did we not see that this religion humiliates and persecutes women and non-Muslims as well as waging offensive wars and encouraging Muslims to kill apostates? Is Muhammad, who ordered the killing of a woman who insulted him, the prophet of tolerance? Why should we blame Khomeini when he issued an order to kill Rushdie? Does not Rushdie (according to the law of Islam and Muhammad, not the law of the United Nations) deserve death for attacking the Qur'an, Muhammad and his wives? Khomeini was never radical; he was always a true student of Muhammad. He intended to enforce the Islamic laws and to fight nations which do not comply with them - such as Iraq (even though Islam is its official religion).
When Muslims kill one another, it is because Muhammad's friends and disciples did so immediately after his death, each one of them trying to force his friend to go in the right way. Khomeini is a true Muslim who follows Muhammad and his friends. Thus, we hear about "exporting the Islamic revolution" to other countries. All these things are compatible with the views of Muhammad and the rightly guided Caliphs who succeeded him such as Abu Bakr, Umar and Ali. When Khomeini slaughtered his opponents, he was following the footsteps of Ali who killed the dissenters, like Talha, Al Zubair and Al Khwareg, even though they were faithful Muslims.
When I was a child ...
by salman farsi on Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:12 PM PDTWhen I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Corinthians 13:11
For an Islamic democracy
For Mehrban/وقتی که بچه بودم
Mash GhasemSun Jun 12, 2011 11:42 AM PDT
پرواز یک بادبادک
میبردت از بامهای
سحر خیزی پلک
تا نارنجزار خورشید
وقتی که بچه بودم
خوبی زنی بود
که بوی سیگار میداد
و اشکهای درشتش از
پشت عینک
با قرآن می آمیخت
آه ان زمانهای رنگین
آه ان زمانهای کوتاه
وقتی که بچه بودم
آب و هوا و زمین بیشتر بود
و جیرجیرک در خاموشی ما آواز میخواند
در هزاران ویک شب
یک شب بس بود
تا خواب و بیداری سرشارت
رنگین باشد
وقتی که من بچه بودم
مردم نبودند
و آدمهای بزرگ
و زاغ های فراق
اینسان فراوان نبودند
وقتی بچه بودم
غم بود
ولی کم بود
مهربان جان ، این هم برای شما ، طبق وعده، امیدوارم خوشتان بیاید. متاسفانه
در سفر کتاب دم دست نیست و این را از آهنگی با اجرای زنده یاد فرهاد
نوشتم (مثل اینکه بخش کوتاهی از آزار دادن حیوانات حذف شده است) تابستان خوبی داشته
باشید.یا حق.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUVCfdVw9b8
The Case of Haleh Sahabi,murdered at her fathers funeral,pending
by Hooshang Tarreh-Gol on Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:02 AM PDTNOT makhtomeh.
Executive Briefing:
"The International campaign for Human Rights in Iran holds the
plainclothes security forces responsible for Haleh Sahabi's death, and
has called for an official investigation. "The shameful actions of
government thugs in this incident reveal a deep contempt for traditions
that belong to all Iranians, and they have resulted in a tragedy," said
Hadi Ghaemi, spokesperson for the campaign. Shirin Ebadi, the Iranian
Nobel Peace laureate, has declared Haleh Sahabi's death,"intentional
murder".
To be continued.
//aramnejad.persianblog.ir/
Five days and counting.
Another Iran is possible.
...
by Mash Ghasem on Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:42 AM PDTI hear you loud and clear, and have had the same concerns and hesitations. Hamid has wonderfully evolved into what he writes now, today. I seriously doubt the former, and hope for the latter.
My grandmother was also a 'quranic hermeneutician,' (most people didn't realize that) and probably the nicest person ever lived on this earth. Years later while reading a poem by Khoiye I came across her again. I'll try to find the poem, its about his childhood: with that name, cheers
MG
by Mehrban on Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:32 AM PDTDoes this article and its structure speak of another alliance of Islamist (soft) and the West. Much like what (may) have been thirty years ago that inevitably lead to the disaster we see now as the Islamic Republic, or of a transition to a Secular Democracy? (I ask myself)
After all, the Antigon of Mr. Dabashi's article was a "Quranic hermeneutician" (his words).
Dear Mr Hormazd
by salman farsi on Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:06 PM PDTWhen I joined this site more than a year and a half ago I published my views on Islamic demcoracy in my first blog.
As I had expected I met with fierce oppostion and dismissal. Please see that blog, read the opposing views and my response to them and judge for yourself.
Salman
For an Islamic democracy
Looking forward to version3.0
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Mon Jun 06, 2011 04:55 PM PDTFrom fruit seller to Neda and haleh, a fascist regime can kill tens of thousands of people who are more than bystanders and deal with the consequences as we have seen in Iran for the past 32 years. But the time comes, when ordinary people completely fed up with the regime due to very poor economic situation and repression would just need a spark to explode into a mass of ruthless revolutionaries. That spark could be a relatively unknown poet's trial and execution, or an innocent bystanders' shooting to death.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
big leap
by gitdoun ver.2.0 on Mon Jun 06, 2011 04:44 PM PDTThat is a pretty big leap to mention neda agha soltan along with a 13 yr old boy who was tortured and mutilated by syria's dictator and a fruit seller who set himself on fire to protest Tunisia's dictator. From accounts I've read in western media neda was not involved in Politics and was a slain bystander. If she was such a martyr on equal footing as Mohammed bouazziz Iran would have exploded just like Tunisia or Syria . In terms of substance and facts I would say Haleh Sahabi is a contender to be mentioned with the fruit seller in Tunisia. Not neda. I don't believe successful Democratic revolutions are carried on the backs of half truths and false heroes .
maryam hojjat the islamic logo is there on every picture
by Hormazd on Mon Jun 06, 2011 03:54 PM PDTthink youre wrong unfortunately.
dear salman farsi what is islamic democracy??
by Hormazd on Mon Jun 06, 2011 03:51 PM PDTcan anyone explain what on earth religious democracy is and show me an example of how a democracy can be religious? the closest you can come to islamic democracy is the islamic republic and this shows how flawed religious democracy is
...
by Mash Ghasem on Mon Jun 06, 2011 03:23 PM PDTConcur, although there shall be a distinctione between mere mortal, run of the mill, cosmopolitans and THE FIRST IN THE WORLD catagory.
The elsewhere seems to be surely on the move: Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Yemen,Syria, Libya,...
Iran? In six days it'll be two years on. This will be one long hot summer. Hold on thight, it'll be a bumpy ride.
Mash Ghasem jaan
by Mehrban on Mon Jun 06, 2011 03:09 PM PDTAchaemenids were certainly cosmopolitans. In present day Iranian political discourse however, Jahan Vatani is often used to silence objections to allocation of Iran's resources elsewhere purely for regime's political gain.
I am all for cosmopolitanism :) as long as it is not all at Iran's
expense.
Disclaimer: Italic and bold are not intentional (?)
...
by Mash Ghasem on Mon Jun 06, 2011 02:08 PM PDTMehrban jan, don't get me wrong, me loves my cyber-ghetto, and will defend it to the end. My defense might not be as magnificant as the Warsaw Ghetto fighters, but rest assure there'll be a substantial effort on the part of your humble servant.
Hamid has evolved in all the right directions in the past two years, he might even get better.
Iran's currency devaluation has nothing to do with cosmopolitanism. Former is an attribute of political-economy, (and a combined product of IR's barbaric mis-managment, world-wide crisis of Capitalism,...), latter a world-view, a management style,...., as old as ancient Persia. Achaemenides were the first cosmopoloitans of the world. Have a great day, cheers
On Haleh Sahabi's death
by Saideh Pakravan on Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:06 PM PDTWhat exactly happened at Ezzatollah Sahabi’s funeral? Did officials try to remove the body, as relatives and witnesses charge? Did the dead man’s daughter, activist Haleh Sahabi, fall to the ground and die of a heart attack because of the heat or because of a scuffle? As with most conflicting reports coming out of Iran, we’ll never know if the brave 54-year old who had been allowed out of prison to attend her father’s funeral was actually beaten to death in front of the 2,000 people present at the Lavasan ceremony. Lies on one side and exaggeration on the other will continue to be the rule as long as the detestable Islamic regime exists in Tehran.
Saïdeh Pakravan, author of the novel "Azadi: protest in the streets of Tehran"
Mash Ghasem
by Mehrban on Mon Jun 06, 2011 08:41 AM PDTAs you can see in "Salman Farsi's" initial protest, this article maybe one of the very few where an Islamist (maybe no longer, maybe soft) intellectual uses a Greek (Western) myth as an allegory. It is remarkable.
On being Cosmopolitan......, well Cosmopolitan and or Ommati (technical term and not meant as a pejorative) has put Iran in the same economic level as the peers assigned to it (and celebrated) in this article (Afghanistan, Africa,....etc). I lament the fact that due to all sorts of ideologies Iran has been used as a pawn for many different conflicts in the area and in this process - as an example - its currency has devalued more than hundred folds in three decades.
Ps. One man's ghetto is another's sanctuary.
...
by Mash Ghasem on Sun Jun 05, 2011 07:58 PM PDTMe mother tells me the same thing, that me exaggerates and ...
But me really has to travel. I've also started my youth 'memoires,' all thanks to tis lovely IC ghetto, with me as the head-clown, of course. I'll post them when its finished. It's really weird how you communicate and create these bonds with other avatars, and all the commonalities that we share... good night,
Don't leave - just don't exaggerate and don't misrepresent.
by Onlyiran on Sun Jun 05, 2011 07:40 PM PDTMG- I like your comments and contributions. The problem is your exaggerations and misrepsentations. That's all.
Negative Vibes
by Mash Ghasem on Sun Jun 05, 2011 07:32 PM PDTSK, compose and control yourself, please: proper, proper. Since you like Demien, this is for you '...when the Devil gets into my head..,' more on your blog, later.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UIzkN64NGg
Negative Vibes
Lord, Won't you give me the strength to be strong, and be true
Cos, Lord, when the devil gets into my head, I'm so blue
You knock me, if you're so mighty, why waste your time with me
If I'm bad, ignorant and sad
Why waste your time, you're mad
You're just mad, because your life is sad
You've done nothing worth while
Twist the knife
Because you hate your life
My life you want to spoil
I'm never going to let
Your negative vibes and comments
Get through to my psyche and cripple me
I'm never going to let
Your negative vibes and comments
Get through to my psyche and cripple me
I never will forget
The suffering that my people went through
In my country and overseas
Were no use, verbal abuse
That's all you have to give
You preach nil, you're so cynical
Jesus, wake up and live
Your bad vibe will drive away your tribe
And where will you be then
All alone
Heart as cold as stone
Hurting yourself again
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OI jan, hopefully, if everythign goes well, next week,me won't be here (where I'm writing this from), tis IC interlude has been very therapeutic, to say the least, time to close down shop for your humble servant, for now. And yes, you're right again, every body knows, just listen to Lenny Cohen, he'll tell you the same thing.
Leonard Cohen - Everybody Knows//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F8QM3tjkTE&feature...
جنگ هفتاد و دو ملت همه را عذر بنه؛
ImtheKingSun Jun 05, 2011 06:43 PM PDT
چون ندیدند حقیقت ره افسانه زدند
MG - It seems as if I have the unfortunate task of pointing out
by Onlyiran on Sun Jun 05, 2011 06:35 PM PDTyour misrepresentations on IC. You say:
(evreyone in IC and more than a few around it, know who I am, name, where I live, what I do)-
Well, I'm on IC, and I have no idea who you are and what your name is. I am willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of IC users also don't know who you are.
I guess you make this false claim so that you can bash others and call them anonymous "avatars," while you can claim that even if you use "Mash Ghasem" as your avatar, it's really OK, because "everyone" knows who you are.
It seems like we've been down this road before, where I have caught you in misrepresentations and false claims just so that you can prove a point. See here:
//iranian.com/main/blog/khers-15
Look, you will have much more credibility on this site (and elsewhere) if you stick to facts and proper arguments without resorting to hyperbole and false claims.
Now, if you want to prove your point, and since "everybody" knows who you are, why don't you start writing under your rea; name? And please don't say that you won't because you travel to Iran, because as we all know, IC is full of IRI intelligence agents, and since they are also part of " everyone on IC," they already know who you are.
(((((( MG ))))))
by Soosan Khanoom on Sun Jun 05, 2011 04:12 PM PDTyou are back !
If this separation had gone longer I could have gone insane ...
OK more insane .... : )
آمش قاسم، کجا بَرار - اگه نَری، یاقچی اولار
MMSun Jun 05, 2011 04:08 PM PDT
.
...
by Mash Ghasem on Sun Jun 05, 2011 04:46 PM PDTThis is getting a bit embarrasing folks. Unintentioanlly, with my 'sound and fury,' I'm practically functioning here, as yet another, "usurper" (as incognoto insightfully observes) of the real issue, and grief. A distraction from what ought to be the focus, namely: Hamid's masterly text, and Sahabian family's most fecund social life and legacy.
June 12th is only a week away, they didn't die in vaine. We shall overcome.
P.S. Mehrban jan, while typing I just couldn't resist seeign your comment as it was the first one, actually the roots of " the Western Model" is very much Afro-Asiatic, and to some extent a fiction.
In times ancient or modern, it's all about world-civilizations and cosmopolitanism,
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Athena
cheers
Mash Ghassem, You should not leave because....
by Roozbeh_Gilani on Sun Jun 05, 2011 03:26 PM PDTWith your departure, the Revolutionary Socialist camp on IC would lose 50% of it's headcount and 99.9% (being kind to myself) of it's intelect!
But seriously, do you think the attacks we have seen on Sahabis on this blog and others (where Haleh's murder by the regime was called a fabrication by shameless agents of the islamist regime) are any better than the cowardly, racist cheers of cyber bassijis last year each time a kurdish activist was murdered by the regime?
I actualy think the harsh comments on this blog are more out of political dogma. A dogma which comes out of a false assumption that anybody "muslim" is a regime sympathiser, ignoring the fact that vast majority of Iranians are devout muslims yet against the facsist islamist regime. But these folks are in our camp as they are against the regime. We have a duty to work with them, build a common understanding and unity. There are plenty of folks who think this way inside Iran too.
I think you are one of a few people on this site who truely contribute in a very positive manner to this site by raising the intellectual level of this site, yet in a humble manner. I therefore hope you stay and let us continue reading and learning from your posts.
cheers.
"Personal business must yield to collective interest."
MG jan, you should have picked a more poetic user id
by Anahid Hojjati on Sun Jun 05, 2011 02:56 PM PDTIt is difficult to come up with poems using Mash Ghasem in it. I guess we have to rhyme your name with words like chaker, you know actually since Ghasem is bar vazne faael, we can come up with many words. I am sure Faramarz already has few ready, but seriously bro, quitting over couple comments , that is so un Mash Ghasem.
MG aziz: I hope you reconsider
by Bavafa on Sun Jun 05, 2011 02:47 PM PDTIt is true that some comments on IC are so absurd and often times racist that give many of us a second thought of participating but then again there are many level-headed and reasonable members that is a joy to exchange views with. Furthermore, giving up and leaving may and can be interpreted as being driven away mush as people on the streets of Tehran, Damascus or Bahrain are being forced to stay away.
Lets not give them the satisfaction
Mehrdad
کجا میری مش قاسم؟
FaramarzSun Jun 05, 2011 02:14 PM PDT
تا ما رفتیم یه چلو خورشت بزنیم باز شهر شلوغ شد! آخه اگه شما ها برین این قصه های منو کی بخونه!
حالا تا قبل از اینکه آناهید یک شعر آنچنانی برات بگه من این شعر مهستی را میخونم:
بعد از تو هم در بستر غم می توان خفت
بعد از تو هم با دل سخنها می توان گفت
بعد از تو هم این سوز هجران
هرگز نمی آید به پایان
Goodbye but not Farewell Mash Ghasem
by salman farsi on Sun Jun 05, 2011 01:57 PM PDTAs I am sure you will come back if not by the same name and avatar but by a new name and a new avatar (as it was the case with your present one). The curse of the Iranian.com is:
Once bitten, forever smitten
For an Islamic democracy
Dear MG, what, last comment on this site
by Anahid Hojjati on Sun Jun 05, 2011 01:30 PM PDTMG jan, You are one of the best contributors on this site. I have not read all the comments on this thread but you should not stop contributing because of others' comments. Both sides are going to extremes. To think that somehow Haleh's death was any more shocking than thousands of other killings before, this is wrong. Thugs have always been part of IRI and in this case, the intent may not have been to kill her. In my opinion,killing virgin girls after raping them is much worse. Also those who act as if they don't care because for a while, Haleh was pro Khomeini, they have got it wrong too. All this said, Dear MG, please reconsider or I will write a poem about you :).