HERITAGE

mitenbiri

آیا ممکن هست شما بگویید در کجای این مقاله دروغی گفته شده؟ و در کجای این مقاله خواسته شده است که از یک امپراطور یک پیغمبر ساخته شود؟

پس ما به هر چه در تاریخمان بوده دست رد بزنیم به خاطر اینکه اسلامیها دروغگو هستند؟

نه به آن شوری شوری و نه به این بینمکی.

Very interesting

Thanks for the good read. It's pity to see that the same country now treats women like slaves.

تاسف که ما بیدار نمی شویم

هرچه کشور ما بشتر  با مشکلات گوناگون  دست به گریبان می شود و در دنیا ترد شده و عقب می ماند، مردم و به اصطلاح غلط روشنفکران ما دست به شگردها و در واقع دروغهای بزرگتری می زنند. ـ انگار پشت این  چاخان ها می خواهند پنهان بشند. 

و حالا  که امام ها و پیغمبرها دستشان دارد رو می شود  می رویم از شاهها و امپراطورها پیغمبرهای جدیدی بسازیم! واقعا  تاسف  آور است که  چند نفر این دروغها را به خورد مردم می دهند و بقیه  به به و جه چه  می گویند.ـ

چقدر این مقاله شبیه  آن نوشته های اسلامی گران زمان شاه است که معتقد بودند امریکایی ها  فنون ساخت آپولو و سفر به ماه را از قران یاد گرفته اند.

Thank you, MM

I appreciate the info and the link. The following part is quite bothersome and in contradiction with the idea of a fair treatment of women/girls under the Achamenids:

''they receive single rations with mothers of boys receiving twice as much as mothers of girls" (Hallock 1969:5-6.)

Azadeh

Good work

I see a change for the better unlike your last subtle distortion of Shahnameh. Keep up the good work & let the light of Kiaan illuminate your soul & light up your horizon. Thanks for a very non-biased yet positively enlightening essay.

Many cheers Madam!!!

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

Azadeh, some answers

Azadeh, some answers to your questions are below:

"Among Persepolis workers, there are as many women as men recorded in the Persepolis Fortification Archive. Some women receive more rations than any of the men in a work group, probably due to their ranks or special skills. New mothers are also mentioned, where they receive single rations with mothers of boys receiving twice as much as mothers of girls" (Hallock 1969:5-6.) //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis_Administrative_Archives

....

Ms. Shahegh,

Your article provides interesting information anout the workers who participated in the construction of Persepolis. However unfortunately, it is an unscientific work. 

Is your choice of Google employees versus Persepolis  construction workers  random  or based on come criteria? What are those criteria?

During the construction of Persepolis, what was the number of women construction workers compared to men? Were children (girls) working as well? What was the reason for higher salaries for women?  Was it for all female construction workers or only for some? Were women with higher salaries doing better jobs than their male counterparts? Maybe these women were specialists. Do we know that?   Were these women bread-winners of large families? Were men with large families paid higher salaries as well? It is interesting that there were women foremen under the Achamenids. Aren't there women employees of higher echelons in Google company?

It is interesting that a pregnant woman received one year salary around 500 BCE in Iran. But, was this a custom or an exceptional situation? Was this pregnant woman a specialist in something? Was she the only one? We should really be able to answer these questions before deciding about the situation of women construction workers under the Achamenids, and then compare it to that of Google employees. You have not mentioned anything about Google's female employees. So, to what can we compare the female workers at Persepolis?

You compare the working conditions of construction workers in the Achamenids times with working conditions of Google and Apple employees, without analysing the socio-economic contexts in either societies: Iran of 500 BCE and USA of 2011 AD. What do we know of the economic structure of the Iranian society under the Achamenids? Not much.  This kind of comparisons remains unscientific, albeit causing pride among Iranians.

And again: regarding Virginia Woolf and Tahereh: how could we analyse and estimate the women’s situation in two totally different countries by only comparing one individual woman in England ( Woolf) with another individual woman in Iran (Tahereh) ?I’m afraid these are not valid methods of comparing societies.

I don't mean to be hard, but we really need to use a valid methodology when we write a socio-historical article.

Thanks for your effort, anyway, and Happy Women's Day.

Azadeh 

thanks

This type of information is only obtainable from stuying the Persepolis tablets.  And, that is partly why these Persian relics are worth saving from the pending lawsuit that wants to take possession of the tablets and put them on the auction block as part of a judgement against the government of Iran.

Worth Millions... or Priceless?//harrisschool.uchicago.edu/Blogs/Events/?p=560

Excellent

Very well said, well written, and to the point. Thanks.