MONARCHY

I agree Pendar

Keshtgar makes no sense to me

Others have already responded but I add my voice. Mr Keshtgar is yet another one who is fuming about 1953 to this day! Forget it because we have real things to deal with now.

Mr. Keshtgar showed his poor judgement in the past. Why should I have any faith in one with such a record. No thank you he may suggest whatever. My suggestion to others is not to pay attention to him.

It is interesting how people with tarnished past come out of woodworks. Just happen to be now that Reza Pahlavi is gathering momentum. Maybe getting worried about IRI their failed offspring.

excuse me here, again

Never mind the reza joon business, insurance companies are indeed(I wish I could insert more e's here) are run by a bunch of charlatans.......I know, I know...........

Maybe

where you come from insurance companies are run by charlatans. They are like every other people. Have good and bad. Like RP supporters. Like RP oppositions.

Perhaps because

Insurance companies are run by charlatans.  In contradistinction, we are Iranians. 

Think Clearly, Speak Straight, and Act Decisively.  Only then will you be an Iranian.

Everyone

Maybe we should handle this issue like insurance companies. After all there are some risks involved. Insurance companies generalise certain risk takings.

RP is as useful as Khamanai's son. Why shouldn't someone else has the chance?

در هر بدن سالمی

به گُل ننگرد آنکه او گِل خور است
اگر چه گل از گل ستوده تر است
کرا سرکه دارو بود در جگر
شود زانگبین درد او بیشتر

The Unequivocal King of Iran Zameen

Shazdeh ever-so-fond-of-Anglo-Saxons,

Remind his son of his sacred duty.  Or we shall seek another who shies not from the demands of destiny.

//setad.org/foto/befor&today/NIM_Shahanshah_Aryamehr.jpg 

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Think Clearly, Speak Straight, and Act Decisively.  Only then will you be an Iranian.

شخصی همه شب

شخصی همه شب برسر بیمار گریست  //  چون صبح شد او بمرد و بیمار بزیست

Dance to this товарищ

//youtu.be/h-qTrtu6uS4 

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Think Clearly, Speak Straight, and Act Decisively.  Only then will you be an Iranian.

"input" "Pendareh" "Neek".

Touche :) cute........But, seriously it's always good to see some Pahlavists in action, and synchronized to the music............admit it.

It was not much of an input, but a rather uncharacteristically rude intrusion, for which I apologize........I'm sure JJ will notice your remark, and hopefully will respond accordingly......But since we're here: I don't think that it's even worth trying to put Hobbes's(Hobbes'?) absolutism in the proximity of the Iranian regimes from Reza gholdor onward, let alone prior to him........it simply doesn't fit the structure of the institution in relation to the society.............

And then there's a side note to Hobbes's ideas on absolutism and the limits of political obligation..........I've even heard from some philosophists(?) that Hobbes has been misinterpreted by the capitalists.......Anyway.....

And then about "think Clearly, Speak straight, and Act Decisively."...........yup, we all know about this one..........."Five years to the Grand Civilization" and "either become a member of the Party, or get you passport and leave the country", to mention just a few.....how much more can one think clearly, speak straight, and act decisively?

Thank you for your "input"

Thank you for your "input" "Pendareh" "Neek".  It is always good to have a specimen such as yourself underline one's point.

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Think Clearly, Speak Straight, and Act Decisively.  Only then will you be an Iranian.

Of the late great Shahanshah's violin......

Jahanshah Javid

Every single Iranian leader in the 20th century has ultimately taken Hobbes' advice to the sovereign (in their own fashion).  Reza Shah, Mossadeq, Mohammad Reza Shah Aryamehr, and Khomeini.  There has been no exception to this among men who possessed power.

//harpers.org/archive/2012/01/hbc-90008381 

I think a part of the issue is that the Iranian psyche harbors a healthy mistrust of a systems-based approach to justice and prefers the final say of flesh and blood, the human element, as personified by the "great man".  We encourage them, and our history and heritage celebrates such men.  

And in fairness, the other side of the same coin is that Iranian nation is a mixed crowd of a very lumpy and non-uniform constitution, ranging from bimokhz to mokhdaars.  To the degree that self doubt, fatalism, and inferiority/superiority complexes remain the defining characteristic of the Iranians, emotions rule, and, those that activate these psychological complexes shall prove to be divining rods gathering the masses around them.

The danger (and bitter tears later on) is due to the fact that flesh and blood is fallible, and, that the nation is question has a propensity for emotionalism and a deep seated desire to redress legitimate historic grievances. That is a ready made violin to be played by masters of the craft.  (Sometimes they even play their own violins, e.g. the late great Shahanshah.)

Demonstrate, individually and collectively, that you have taken a new turn, turned a new leaf, and are ready to embark on a path of self determination and rational collective discourse; that the "Law" will remain safe in hands of men and women who shall apply it judiciously and with wisdom.  

Only then will you have leadership that will not treat you like children. 

[edit: since taa 3 nashe baazi nasheh.] 

Pendaar Joon come out come out, out of the closet NOW!

Before any "sokhan parrakani" first be man enough to admit that you are a supporter of Ali khamene-ee and a member his team of rapist murderers

However if I am lying then answer the question I have raised in my previous blog (//iranian.com/main/blog/areyo-barzan/time-put-or-shut)

I asked you one simple question:If not Reza Pahlavi then WHO.Who do you think has the ability to lead us our of the current mess.But you seem to have been a much more of a coward than even I anticipated and hence instead of providing a straight answer to my straight question first you resorted to cheep insults and unfunded accusation and later when you found the situation dangerous and your self on the brink of being exposed (Vaghti didi hava passe) put your tail between your legs and ran away like cowards.Now mate I can assure who ever we might support we do not want AN and Ali Gedaa. They either go on their own will or will have the same faith of Ghadaafi and Saddam.Further more if all IRI supporters are such cowards that are even afraid to state their political orientation behind an anonymous name we will have no difficulty to get rid of them as I cam assure you that in the first sign of trouble they not only change their colours and political orientation but for the right price they even change their gender lol.All you coward closet IRI supporters Get a life   

به تکاپو افتاده اند

اقای کشتگار

اقای کشتگار جالب است ، شما هنوز در گذشته طلایی مصدق زندگی میکنید و چه کسی برای شمای روشنفکر دوران طلایی سوخته اجازه داده که به شاهزاده پهلوی و یا هر کس دیگری تکلیف روشن کنید. مگر هزاران و یا میلیونها نفر به شما رای نمایندگی  داده اند که شما مشخص بکنید که کی چه کاری بکند.
مگر مصدق را چه کسی نخست وزیرکرد؟ ایا شما میدانید که ان شاه بود که بایستی تصویب می کرد؟ حتا ملی شدن نفت را اگر شاه امضا نمیکرد نفت ملی شدنی نبود.
اقای کشتگار امروز کشور ما دارد ویران میشود و تنها نگرانی شما شاهزاده پهلوی شده؟ ایا شما خودتان در این ویرانی کشور دستی نداشتید؟ و کسانی مثل شما نبودید که مثل دلقکها افتاده بودید دنبال وطن فروشها و دشمنان ملت و سرزمین ایران؟
بنده یک ایرانی هستم دغدغه من رژیم شیطانی اسلامی است که هموطنهای ما را به پای دار میکشد و کشورمان را به حراج گذاشته است و افکار من اشفته می شود وقتی کسانی مثل شما دشمن اصلی را کنار گذاشته اید و خود مشغول مسموم کردن افکار هموطنان هستید. ایا مشکل امروز ما شاه است ویا شاهزاده است و یا مصدق و یا خمینی است؟ اگر شما به ازادی کشور فکر میکنید بایستی حقوق هیچ شخصی را از انان نبایستی بگیرید. بیاید دموکراسی را امتحان کنید برای خودتان ، اول خودتان را اموزش دهید که ایرانی دشمن شما نیست ، حالا بنده باشم و یا شاهزاده پهلوی. اگر شما دنبال حکومت خودتان هستید بفرماید و هر چه گزافه هست بگوید.
امروز برای ملت ما خیلی مشخص و روشن است که چرا شما ملی مذهبی ها دنبال حکومت اسلامی هستید و به خاطر  انهم هست که ابراهیم یزدی اعدام نشده تا حال ویا بنی صدر بچه اخوند چرا ترور نشده مثل بختیار تا امروز.  

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Reza's public profile is based on his relationship with the deposed Pahlavi dynasty, which met its demise solely due to its dictatorial, and utterly corrupt nature. His hopeless efforts to portray himself as a political activist, or a leader[ ';0) ] is both self-destructive and counterproductive.

If the retarded boy had an iota of gray material between his two deaf ears, he would've done his best to hire Keshtgar as his personal tutor.  

Hooshang joon salam

I can see that you too have joined the "Tavvabin" (LOL). welcome to the club bro and be a good boy in future. Now tell us where did you find this "limitatioin" data from?Did you do your own survey or perhaps you have onsulted the Royal Ass-trologer, Ali Mostofi? Where is the source rafigh Tavvab LOL

Agree with Aryo Barzan

PR has historical responsibility to defend the Iranian people against dictatorship and I appreciate his support of democracy and freedom in Iran.

I appreciate his willingness to speak up aganist the injustice and illegitimate rule of mollahs. It is better than sitting silent and not doing anything.

خراب کردی کار خودتو

داشتی درست میرفتی که یهو رفتی به بیراهه. وقتی به این جا رسیدم فهمیدم که از کدوم آخور علوفه آقای کشتگر تامین می‌شه:

" اگر شاه در مبارزه ملی و میهنی دکترمصدق علیه کنسریوم نفت بریتانیا جانب نخست وزیر قانونی کشور و تمایلات ملی مردم را می گرفت و با سازمان های جاسوسی سیا و اینتلیجنس سرویس در توطئه کودتا علیه مصدق شرکت نمی کرد آیا سرنوشت ایران همانی بود که امروز هست؟"

 شما رو بسر مصدق قسم که یه مطلب تازه بنویسید. این خزعبلات رو که پنجاه شصت سال هست دارید به خورد مردم میدید آخرش هم همون یاران با وفای مصدق بودند  ، همون سنجابی‌ها و صالح‌ها و شایگان‌ها ، که از هم پیشی‌ می‌‌جستند که برای امام افتابه و لگن بیارن که طهارت بگیره. اگر یک جو غیرت تو شما مصدق اللهی‌ها بود اصلا دیگه جلو ملت ایرون صداتون در نمی اومد چه برسه که توصیه هم بکنید!! میرفتید توی همون مزبله‌ای که برای ملت درست کردین و خودتونو کنار کشیدید خودتونو قایم میکردید و بیش از این آبروی اون مردک پیر و خود کامه رو نمی‌‌بردید.

توصیه من به همه مصدق چیا اینه که توصیه به کسی‌ نکند که گندش بالا میاد. مصدق به شاه یاد داد که این دموکراسی یعنی‌ کشک. شاه هم خوب میدونست که مصدق ذره‌ای برای دمکراسی و حقوق بشر و آزادیخواهی  ارزش قائل نیست یه روز با توده ای‌ها میخوابه روز بعدش هم با اخوندا. بعد هم به نفع آخوندا قانون میبره به مجلس.

شاه اگر هم لغزشی داشت استادش مصدق بود. 

strategic limitations

Monarchists not only lack a proper social base inside Iran, compared to other political currents. This lack of popular support within Iran is only one strategic limitation.

The other being having the Greens as the West's most favoured opposition within Iran, hence all the media attention and financial assistance. 

It seems highly unlikely that monarchists will be able to overcome any of these two limitations. In a post IR Iran monarchists will probably have a few MPs and that's about it. Cheers

Selective amnesia

Dear Mr Keshtgar

I believe what is more dangerous than national amnesia is actually selective amnesia where one only tends to remember the parts of history that serves his purpose and conveniently tends to forget the rest.

So please do not mix the issues up as although they might make a nice set slogan on a farcical article they have no political or historical merit.

With regard to Mashrooteh revolution I would also refer you to go back and study the roles that one Ayatollah Modarres played in its diversion into Mashroo-eh and betraying the democracy before it had even a chance to start.

Also on the subject of DR Mosaddegh and what he has to has not done for this country. It is needless to say that every patriot Iranian would feel a sent of debt and gratitude to the man for his role in nationalization of our oil industry. However since I hope we have surpassed the point of creating false idols from our political heroes and putting them beyond criticism and questioning, I was hopping that you might have had the courage to also mention his errors and miscalculations that lead to 28 Mordad codetta.

Errors like dissolving Majliss Shora-ye and calling for a fresh election and by doing so breaking the most fundamental rule of Mashrooteh constitution which was independence of Ghovaaye seh-gaaheh”

Why is it that not once even once I hear anything about Mr Mosaddegh’s error of judgment by getting into bed with Hezb-e Toodeh and toward the end of his premiership asking the permission of Russian embassy in Tehran for each decision

Now I am not here to make any excuses for Shah and his many errors that you have explained to a grate extend. But putting all the blames on one person and refusing to accept and live up to ones own responsibility is not only childish and counterproductive but if is foolish  and dangerous. As the first step to learn from history is to acknowledge one’s own errors.

As far as RP is concerned he has made his position very clear to those who want to listen.

Currently his immediate goal is to get rid of the current regime and get the country to a free fair referendum. On that day his first task will end.

If, and that it a big IF in that referendum our people decided to have a kind of monarchy that live in a museum like UK or Norway then he can be asked to put up his other hat and fulfil his duty and a constitutionsal monarch

However as I already mentioned in my blog this kind of end less historical debates will not resolve our immediate problem.

If you or any body else think that RP is not the man to lead us out of the current mess then why don’t you come out of the closet and tell us who do you support and give us your candidate as by doing so you might do many of us a favour.

Many people including yours truly are open to look at other candidates and asses their political ideological and social positions and give their verdict in due course and in the end democracy demands that everybody is free to accept his/her own leader. Unless you are another dictator in disguise yourself

So my friend time for endless moaning has now come to and end.

 As I mentioned in my blog(//iranian.com/main/blog/areyo-barzan/time-put-or-shut) it is about high time for you guys to come out of the closet and let the rest of us know

Whom do you support and who isa viable leader to lead us out of the current mess.

Time for a discussion

I think Keshtgar makes perfect sense. The chances of seeing a European style constitutional monarchy in Iran with a separation of religion, royal court and democratic state is near zero. So if the monarchy is making a comeback, this is the time to discuss what could happen.