SURVEY

Mossadegh one of the greatest leaders?

LOL

He may have been a decent nationalist.  But he wasn't very smart.

Dear Imam Zaman,

Mr. Kazemzadeh has never hidden his support for MEK or the fact that he is a sympathizer towards the group. This also happens to be the latest U.S policy towards Iran. In future, there will be no trace of any other political groups.   The freedom fighters would only be the JM and MEK. Same old story; the same revolutionary voices in the late 70s minus the Ayatollahs and the lefties. First revolution, it was a take over by the Ayatollahs and Toodeh and now it is going to be a take over by JM and MEK; like there is no other way to achieve democracy in Iran.

Actually that is what the new movie " Argo" is all based on.   If you have seen it and if you have truly paid attention you know what I am talking about. The movie starts with a support towards JM and it ends with a woman with red scarf ( being mentioned as a friend to both Canada and U.S ) entering Iraq ( a sort of camp ashraf settings ).    

Now why is it? I am not sure.  I personally can not mix, Dr. Mossadag, one of the greatest leader in the Iranian history, with morons such as Rajavi but then this is American induced uprising ... so what can one conclude but to say,

" Only In America "   

: )  

Mr. Kazemzadeh

Dear Mr. Kazemzadeh,Regarding your diatribe on NIAC’s article I have a few questions for you.Quoting you: NIAC claims "....past NIAC member surveys have corresponded with the results of scientific community-wide surveys." This is vague and misleading. For example, the PAAIA poll of Iranian-Americans, found that 57% of Iranian-Americans supported American military action against the terrorist regime if the regime mass murdered the Iranian people and only 26% opposed U.S. military strikes under any circumstance. //www.payvand.com/news/12/mar/1269.html "When asked under what circumstances they are most likely to support a U.S. military strike against Iran, a majority of fifty seven percent (57%) of Iranian Americans indicated that they would support military action if the Iranian government were to commit mass murder of its civilian populations. In contrast, only twenty six percent (26%) of Iranian Americans would not support U.S. military strikes against Iran under any circumstances." 　You seem to cast doubt on the results of the NIAC survey of its own members and their claim that the result obtained from their smaller sample can be extended to the larger population of Iranian Americans. To be more specific, you imply that it may not be true that about 74% of Iranian Americans oppose an attack on their country of birth. There is nothing wrong with being skeptic. However what you employ as your evidence (The PAAIA poll) is totally irrelevant. First of all I wouldn’t be surprised if the PAAIA statistic were, say 70% or 80% instead of only 57%. The question on which this statistic was obtained was a qualified statement in PAAIA’s questionnaire. You work in social sciences and you know very well that you can get totally different answers to slightly different questions. In short what you have presented as your evidence does not correspond to the NIAC’s finding. Again nothing wrong with being skeptic, but for someone who works in social sciences this kind of twisted argument is not expected. Imagine you try to publish a research employing this sort of argument. 9. The best way (and perhaps the only way) to prevent war is to get rid of the war mongers who rule Iran. As I have already argues, we have two real options: war or revolution. Those who have not helped the opposition to get rid of the vf regime, have increased the likelihood of war. Those who have helped the vf regime have increased the likelihood of war. //iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/war-or-revolution-only-2-actual-options　 You correctly characterize the IRI as a terrorist regime. You recommend helping the opposition. But which opposition? I hope you don’t mean MKO (or as you reverently call PMOI). You missives show the depth of your feelings about the IRI and those that you perceive as its direct or indirect supporters. This is understandable. However it weakens the effectiveness what you try to convey. (For instance, you hate NIAC and its members)BTW, what do you think about the Israeli lobby? What do you think about the MKO and the Israeli support for it, or its support of separatists? Being a Middle East expert you probably know more than all of us combined. Can you enlighten us please?Thanks  

 Thank you dear MK for

 Thank you dear MK for yet again having the patience to deal with the lies of NIAC groupies. They are absolutely shameless. I partly blame our own Iranian community to have let this entity to exploit and trample all over us with lies and deception. There is nothing wrong to be anti-war. But NIAC's anti-war stance is nothing but sham to prolong IRI's and Reformers's reign of terror.

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

Re:Masoud Kazemzadeh

استاد گرانقدر، دکتر مسعود کاظم‌زاده؛ از تصحیح شما سپاسگزارم، عذری بر
تساهل خویش ندارم. امیدوارم که قادر باشم زمینه تشکیک ذهنی‌ شما و دیگر
هموطنان نیکو سیرت را به تدریج برطرف کنم. روحیه بد‌بینی‌ و سؤ ظن  در
خارج که از عواقب شوم حکومت کثیف و جنایتکار آخوندی در داخل است را کاملا
درک می‌کنم. به امید پیروزی.

Email address hissy fit...

get over it.

!رئیس جمهور منتخب 63 درصدی ، خانم مریم رجوی

 !رئیس جمهور منتخب 63 درصدی ، خانم مریم رجوی

حزب فقط حزب علی، رئیس جمهور مادام العمر یکی خانم رجوی! 

Dear Mehrban on the fishy "Peril"

Mehrban jaan,

I agree with Divaneh. "Peril" is fishy and is NOT a supporter of the PMOI. Peril is trying to divert the attacks from the NIAC to the PMOI.

Peril repeatedly called "Shoray Melli Moghavemat Iran" "Nehzat Moghavmat Iran" and "Nehzat Moghavemat Melli."

The group that now the PMOI leads is called Shoray Melli Moghavemat Iran.

//www.iranncr.org/

The "Nehzat Moghavemat Melli" was first started after the coup by JM people, and then after 1979, Dr. Bakhtiari’s group NAMIR is called "Nehzat Moghavemat Melli Iran."

//www.namir.info/

If someone does not know the difference between Shoray (Council) and Nehzat (Movement), one could be certain that he or she is NOT a supporter of the PMOI. The PMOI is a highly disciplined group, and its supporters KNOW the name of their group, and would NOT confuse it with the name of Dr. Bakhtiar’s group.

In my opinion, "Peril" is either a supporter of NIAC, or an agent of the IRI’s Ministry of Intelligence, or a supporter of the IRI.

Best,

Masoud

Binder Full of Lies and Distortions (and Losers)

Binder Full of Lies and Distortions (and Losers)

1. First and foremost, I am so proud of the overwhelming majority of our commentators, who have exposed the lies in the NIAC report.

2. And thanks to Faramarz for the title. :-)

3. It is not surprising that NIAC distorts and lies. It is surprising that the NIACis are soooooooo obtuse that they think that others are soooooooooo stupid to fall for their lies.

As so many have already pointed out, the following NIAC’s statement is absolutely false and an absolute LIE. "... 43,000 supporters who subscribe to our emails and attend our events, NIAC is the largest Iranian-American grassroots organization."

I am a member of NIAC’s email list. And I totally oppose and despise NIAC. Somehow NIAC has gotten hold of my email without my permission and they keep sending me their garbage. My guess is that NIAC got my email from the Iranian.com. Only liars and charlatans would claim that the members in a mailing list that they got (purchased or free) from another source, constitute their "SUPPORTERS."

4. Moreover, NIAC claims that they have approximately 4,000 members. According to Mr. Hassan Dai’s observations of the NIAC documents released to him during the court proceedings, NIAC has about 600 current dues paying members. Reportedly, Trita Parsi had claimed on his cv that NIAC had 10,000 members.

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/how-many-actual-members-i-e-current-members-does-niac-have

5. NIAC claims "....past NIAC member surveys have corresponded with the results of scientific community-wide surveys."

This is vague and misleading. For example, the PAAIA poll of Iranian-Americans, found that 57% of Iranian-Americans supported American military action against the terrorist regime if the regime mass murdered the Iranian people and only 26% opposed U.S. military strikes under any circumstance.

//www.payvand.com/news/12/mar/1269.html

"When asked under what circumstances they are most likely to support a U.S. military strike against Iran, a majority of fifty seven percent (57%) of Iranian Americans indicated that they would support military action if the Iranian government were to commit mass murder of its civilian populations. In contrast, only twenty six percent (26%) of Iranian Americans would not support U.S. military strikes against Iran under any circumstances."

6. NIACis are a bunch of losers.

6.1. NIAC LOST the court case against Hassan Dai. And as bizarre as it is, NIAC claimed partial victory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

//jebhemelli.net/htdocs/Views/2012/kazemzadehM_Lawsuit.html

6.2. NIAC LOST in their campaign of keeping the PMOI on the State Department FTO list.

6.3. Thanks to the wonderful people of Canada, and the fantastic decision by the Canadian government, they closed their embassy in Tehran and kicked out the terrorist-diplomats of the terrorist regime from Canada. This is a huge defeat for the terrorist regime. This is also a huge defeat for the policy of NIAC in promoting engagement and good relations between the various governments around the world and the terrorist regime.

6.4. Thanks to the U.S. Congress, there are real sanctions on the terrorist regime’s central bank, and other countries that would buy oil from the terrorist regime. This is a huge defeat of NIAC. This is a huge defeat for the terrorist regime.

6.5. Thanks to the EU sanctions, there are real sanctions on the terrorist regime’s oil since July 2012. This is a huge defeat for the terrorist regime. This is also a huge defeat for NIAC’s policy of opposing real sanctions on oil and promoting business deals with the terrorist regime.

7. What is most significant and most revealing about the NIAC survey of its own members, is that NIAC officials did NOT even put on the survey the policy option of changing the terrorist regime to democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This shows that getting rid of the terrorist regime and helping establish democracy in Iran is NOT on the agenda of NIAC.

8. And this is precisely the DIFFERENCE between the rest of us and NIAC. We want to change the vf regime to democracy. We want to send the terrorist regime to the garbage can of history. And in this struggle between Iranian democrats and the terrorist regime, NIAC is NOT on our side.

9. The best way (and perhaps the only way) to prevent war is to get rid of the war mongers who rule Iran. As I have already argues, we have two real options: war or revolution. Those who have not helped the opposition to get rid of the vf regime, have increased the likelihood of war. Those who have helped the vf regime have increased the likelihood of war.

//iranian.com/main/blog/masoud-kazemzadeh/war-or-revolution-only-2-actual-options

My 2 cents (which might soon be several thousand rials as the free fall continues),

Masoud

Warmongering of a pie in the cyber space!

NIAC, this pathetic gang of mercenaries who so patheticaly present this "pie chart", claimed to be based on the opinions of their "thousands of cyber supporters!!!!", have done huge damage to the true cause of anti war, anti military attack on Iran, by first Hijacking it on behalf of the fascist , warmongering islamist regime and then utterly discrediting it by association. 

Shame on all mercenaries of islamist regime 

Kudos To NIAC

The NIAC report was compiled by a survey of their members (not non-members or those who are only of the e-mail list) and as such represents the opinion of a cross section of Iranian Americans.  74% voted against war and for support of a peaceful resolution.  It won’t be surprising if it reflects the majority opinion. After all who is insane enough to wish his country of birth to be attacked with all its terrible consequences even if that country is run by a bunch of lunatics?

If this is the majority opinion, which is quite plausible, then the loud voices of the nay-sayers here   is just a reflection of the opinions of a fringe group. Some of these groups (Israel supporters, some MKO supporters, some separatists, etc.) have clear agendas for being so vociferous in support of war which will directly hurt the Iranian people. Other than the above-mentioned if someone else is for war, it is out of pure ignorance.  True, the IRI is evil and its leaders are criminals.  But that is no comparison with the evils of war that the policies that these fringe groups advocate will result in, which may lead to fragmentation and the end of Iran as we know it. Déjà vu.  We have seen it in Iraq and Syria.

I agree with Divaneh

I also Think Brian Appleton is just as dubious as Peril.    True - Iranian opposition is far far from whre we like it to be - but when it comes to NIAC or MKO we are all pretty much on the same page and in agreement.......what scraes Brians of the world is not that they could not fool us - what scares them is that we will wake up others who had been fooled!!!   especially Americans who have in the past bought the BS.   I hope I am wrong about Brian......but I am sure Divaneh is correct about Peril........the two posts just seemed orchestrated to me.....especially in a thread whre just about all os us say the same thing. 

Johnny Appleseed

Please spare us the lecture.

We have been through the drill and know all about these Swedish Carpetbaggers!

@mehravan

ما به اتحاد و حمایت فرزندان مبارز ایرانزمین، خواهران و برادران آزدیخواه،
به وجدان بیدار انسانهای شرافتمند در مجامع بین‌المللی پشتگرم هستیم. ما
به خوبی‌ با دسایس دشمن آشنایی داریم. ما به رهبری رئیس جمهور منتخب، خانم
مریم رجوی میبالیم و در باره آن با هیچکس و هیچ گروهکی مذاکره و مماشات
نمی‌کنیم. مرگ بر رژیم تروریستی ولایت فقیه و حامیان رنگارنگ و پنهان و
آشکار آن.

Thank you Divaneh jaan

For the heads up.

Brian Appleton,

wonderful take on the subject, thanks.

فکر نمی کنم که مجاهد باشد مهربان جان

بنده فکر می کنم که ایشان خودش را مجاهد جا زده تا همانگونه که شما فرمودید آب را گل آلود کند. به نظر از همین نیاکی ها و نوچه های رژیم است.

خودت می‌بری و خودت میدوزی.

  یک کاری نکن که از حمایتم از در آمدن گروه مجاهدین از لیست سیاه پشیمان شوم.  مریم رجوی ممکن است که رئیس دسته شما باشد ولی‌ پرزیدنت ایران نیست. زور و شعار هم این طرفها زیاد خریدار ندارد.   

Delete pls

    Double post

Re:mehraban

گنجینه سرشار و افتخار آمیز مبارزات سازمان مجاهدین خلق ایران از بدو تاسیس
تا کنون بی‌ نیاز از انچیزیست که شما از آن به نام ماهی‌ از آب گًل‌آلود
گرفتن یاد می‌کنید. مردم ایران یکصدا و یکپارچه با اهداف و خط مشی نهضت
مقاومت ایران و رئیس جمهور منتخب، خانم مریم رجوی همراهی خواهند کرد. نهضت
مقامات ملی‌ تنها آلترناتیو موجود و به رسمیت‌شناخته شده در سطح بین‌المللی
است که توانایی‌ رهبری، و همگامی با ملت را در سرنگونی رژیم تروریستی
دارد. مرگ بر رژیم تروریستی ولایت فقیه. مرگ بر حامیان رژیم آخوندی.زنده
باد رئیس جمهور رجوی.

No consensus among the diaspora

what I gather from the majority of your comments is that the Iranian diaspora is its own worst enemy. No agreement, no unity, no strength and any organization like NIAC which is attempting to give Iranian Americans a political voice and make the US government more aware of the results of their policies on Iran is ruthlessly attacked. The jewish Americans and the Israelis are certainly over represented in both houses of Congress why shouldn't Iranian Americans have more representation? It is all well and good to say that the only remedy for the IRI is to overthrow that regime but how is this accomplished without returning Iran to a vassal client state of the USA with another puppet in charge and no national and cultural sovereignty? There were reasons that there was a revolution and no matter how bad this regime is, they will always have a mandate as long as Iran's national sovereignty is at stake. You all know full well that the nuclear program is another WMD propaganda scheme intended to justify an invasion and recolonization of Iran and on the side of the IRI, the nuclear issue has become a point of national sovereignty whether they need a bomb or not or  whether they are even trying to make one or not is irrelevant, the sticking point is that they don't want to be dictated to by outsiders  especially since they are members of the non nuclear proliferation agreement. If US companies like GE and Bechtel had the contract to finish the reactor in Bushehr rather than the Russian Federation things would be different. No one is more moral than anyone else in international politics, they are all whores....and obviously if Iran had no oil or gas and only carpets and pistachios to export it wouldn't even make the daily news.

Brian H. Appleton

aka

Rasool Aryadust

از هر طرف که رفتم بر وحشتم بیفزود.

پریل جان، سر جدت حالا آب رو گل‌آلود نکن که ماهی‌ بگیری. هیچکس پرزیدنت ایران نیست مگر در یک انتخابات آزاد رای آورده باشد.  عجب گیری کرده ایم.   

It seems like AN has compiled NIAC's statistics

This statistic reminds me of Ahmadinejad's votes (of course not to forget his graph of economy). Don't bother Nobar, as you see we are not as stupid as you thought.

Down with terrorist akhoonds in Iran

Down with the terrorist regime in Tehran and all its supporters. Long live the Iranian resistance movement. Long live President Maryam Rajavi.

In all fairness to JJ

It is so great to read all your posts and see how the whole NIAC trick has failed in America......I knew of NIAC's full failure several years ago after I heared in an Official Congressional Hearing, after testifying how the Majority of Iranian/Americans THINK, mr. Parsi was asked: How do the rest think?!!!!!   Knowing Americans - that question was the dagger in NIAC operations.....

However, we must give JJ and IC and others like IC a lot of credit for creating the environment for us to dicuss NIAC and reach a conclusion.  

In all fairness to JJ

It is so great to read all your posts and see how the whole NIAC trick has failed in America......I knew of NIAC's full failure several years ago after I heared in an Official Congressional Hearing, after testifying how the Majority of Iranian/Americans THINK, mr. Parsi was asked: How do the rest think?!!!!!   Knowing Americans - that question was the dagger in NIAC operations.....

However, we must give JJ and IC and others like IC a lot of credit for creating the environment for us to dicuss NIAC and reach a conclusion.  

Thank you!

Keep up the great work!

The Pathetic 43000

Is there any NIAC supporter here at all? Anyone to support their cause? No wonder all they could gather to prevent "war" was a 100. LOL

which US congressmen and

which US congressmen and US Senators support NIAC?? does anyone know? 

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

BTW, didn't terita joon

BTW, didn't terita joon declare that there will be no war and netanyaboo is all hat and no cattle??

 //iranian.com/main/2012/oct/bibi-s-three-steps-forward-one-back

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir