Anonym

dear SK

Labelling people and calling them immature because they hold diferent view is immature in itself, isn't it?

Perhaps what is immature is laughing and cheering on violent riots because you dislike a country's Politics.

In solidarity with brothers & sisters all over Britain!

Curious Joe

Fair enough no religion talk just pure facts .......  

Now,  let me tell you this;  There is absolute no logic , NONE , in saying that there is no creator ..... 

At most you can say is , " I do not know " ...  don't fool yourself by acting as a 19 century intellectual cause it is 21 century .... and there is no monkey trail here.  We all believe in evolution .....  grow up 

read my blog and my comments here  .......

There has to be a mind behind the creation

Who created who?

Bottom line.  At the end of the day/debate, it comes down to this:

Did God create man (woman?), or have men/women created the concept of “God”?

I go for the latter belief than the former – and you are welcome to challenge me logically (without quoting verses from Quran, Bible, Torah, Buddhism, Scientology, Bahai’s book, or any other organized/pseudo-organized religions).

I really challenge you intellectually.  After all, isn’t it the “reason d’etre” for having such forum?

thanks

But no thanks.

For as many sincere and devouted religiouse person we've in any faiths on earth I know some and respect them I salute you and your desire to be with them for as long as you wish .

Maziar

I thank you for this blog

ATHEIST HAVEN

Hey bud, how's it going?

Long time no hear (as Anonym, that is). How's the family? Hope all is well. I remember we had a go at it a while back about this god and religion stuff, but at the end we made peace...

I don't remember if I asked you before, but are you Iranian? Just curious. 

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IRAN FIRST

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God Should Write a New Book!

1,400 years is a long time to be idle and not write anything. Just look at Hollywood, it didn’t take that long to have sequels to James Bond, The Star Wars, Rocky, Rambo, The Godfather and even Legally Blond! Having a “writer’s block” is not a good excuse either. 14 centuries is a very long time and things do change.

In his first book, Torah, he laid down the law and told the folks what not to do. It was an action thriller played beautifully by Charlton Heston. Parting the Red Sea and letting people to walk across was brilliant!

His second book, the Bible was more of a “chick flick”; teen pregnancy, unwed mom raising a child and all the sufferings. He also introduced the concept of heaven and hell which was another stroke of genius. We even had blond and blue-eyed Jesus for the European markets and darker looking one for the rest of the world; very flexible!

His last book Quran was more of a war movie with lots of battles and conquests. The lead role was played beautifully by Anthony Quinn. He also better defined the heaven and hell concept by adding a few virgins and other young things to the mix to be attractive to a wider audience.

Now, with Osama gone, Arab and Muslim countries looking for the democracy and the Islamic Republic in bad shape, the time is right for god to get on his laptop and write a new book.

I am thinking Matt Damon, Brad Pitt and George Clooney all in the lead roles!

I thank everyone who has read this blog.

Soosan Khanoom, thank you for your kind remarks.

Freethought111, thank you for your insight.

Maryam Hojjat, I have read the holy Quran and follow prophet Mohammad and from what I know rape is an awful thing and I'm most strongly against it. I am just so sad, that out of the message that this blog was intended for, that was the only thing that you could say. But then again this blog was not intended for you and I thank you for taking time reading it.

Curious Joe: Thanks for your time reading this blog, but this blog is only for certain people who desired it, so I don't expect you to click on anything on this blog, but please feel free to do so if you wish.

Amoojan: I don't know what to say! Thank you ... I guess.

Peace be upon those who follow the Guidance

1 - Richard Dawkins is considered a pseudo-intellectual and a sloganeer by countless bona fide philosophers of science in the Academy. His "God Delusion" (a very silly and philosophically unsophisticated book) has been attacked for its sweeping generalizations by a whole host of contemporary academic philosophers and philosophers of science alike. Dawkins has refused to publicly debate Cambridge University philosopher of science Simon Schaeffer who has pointed out the countless flaws in Dawkins' arguments. So outside of the popular mainstream, Richard Dawkins has no credibility. 

2 - Both verses 5:33 & 9:5 of the Qur'an are in the immediate context of the Muslim wars against the Meccan Quraysh and have no contextual application beyond it. In the Baghavad Gita Krishna likewise tells Arjuna to slay all his enemies (i.e. his uncles) in no uncertain terms. The Old Testament likewise contains verses which by the bellicose bourgeois and double standards of the modern Western mind are also quite violent. Exodus 15:3, for example, describes God as "a man of war." In the Book of Joshua of the OT Joshua is exhorted by God to commit genocide against the Canaanites of Jericho. The New Testament itself is not exactly a fluff fest and there are passages such as this where Jesus states, (Matthew 10:34-38) " Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’ Anyone
who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone
who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it."

3 - This was a good post. There are numerous hadith and akhbar saying that this world is cursed and that calamity is the divine grace that visits the true men/women of God to remind them of what is True.

CuriousJoe, I complete Your comment By Saying

GOD Must have said to his prophet Mohammad that Raping children is crime.

Anonym

Thank you for this sweet and delightful reminder .... Perhaps that is why thanksgiving is my favorite holiday ....

How can I, or anyone else, ever ceased being astounded

That he whom nothing can contain is contained in the heart

Rumi  

Please do me a favor and read one book

Dear Anonym:

I have read not only the Quran, but also the Bible, Torah and the Buddhist Manifesto.  So, I can understand where are you coming from.   

Now, may I ask you to please read a recent book by Richard Dawkins called “The God Delusion”.  Unless you do me the favor of reading Dawkins’ book, why should you expect anyone to do you the favor of clicking on your Prophet Ayub or Omar Mukhtar stories.

Meanwhile, to show you that I have indeed read the Quran, I’d like to share with you some quotes from Quron:

Section 4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great.   

Section 5:33 . . .  Those who wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land should be punished by death, crucifixion, the amputation of an alternate hand and foot or banishment from the land: a disgrace for them in this world, and then a terrible punishment in the Hereafter, 34 unless they repent before you overpower them: in that case bear in mind that God is forgiving and merciful.  

Section 9:5  . . . When the sacred months are passed, kill those who join other gods wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them and lie in wait for them with every kind of ambush. But if they convert and observe prayer and pay the obligatory alms, then let them go their way.

Personally, Anonym, I think the only salvation for Islam is to reform the Quran – which is currently quite a violent book.  After all, the Christians had to reform Christianity by going from the Old Testament to the New Testament.  I foresee the similar thing happening to Quran during the next 500 years.

Please Thanks God for me too.

For killing all those Dinosaurs so today I can get around in my fancy car.

Thank you