Japan Deserved The Nukes

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Japan Deserved The Nukes
by Anonymous Observer
23-Apr-2012
 

One of the most specious arguments that I see uttered by the usual hordes of America hating Iranians is the one that tries to claim lack of moral standing for the United States in human rights or nuclear non proliferation issues because it used nuclear bombs on Japan in order to ensure Japan’s surrender in WWII.  As usual, that position comes with the standard lack of perspective by our beloved rabid America haters.

So, let’s look at some historical facts here.  Imperial Japan was responsible for the largest mass murder of civilian population in WWII in what is known as the Asian Holocaust.  The Japanese murdered up to ten million (10,000,000) Chinese, Filipinos, Indonesians and Indochinese and Western prisoners of war.  They raped and murdered 300,000 people in Najing alone.  They left behind a trail of murder, rape and destruction wherever they set foot.  They committed beheadings, cannibalism, vivisection and they also buried civilians alive—and that was just for fun.  They used to gas unsuspecting Chinese farmers and then cut them up alive to see how their organs reacted to the chemicals.  And the icing on the cake was that they were the ones who attacked the United States first.

So, what was America to do with these nut jobs?  Negotiate with them?  Send troops to capture Japan and bring it into submission, and fight those suicidal, Basiji-type maniacs?  To put that into perspective, consider this: in the battle for the two islands of Iwo Jima and Okinawa, the U.S. suffered 88,000 casualties, which included 18,800 dead (source).  One can only imagine the numbers if the Allies had to fight their way through Tokyo.  Casualties would have been in the hundreds of thousands.   By contrast, the dropping of the nuclear bombs brought the racist, genocidal and monstrous Japanese Empire to surrender literally overnight. 

And spare me the arguments about civilians, etc.  First, most of Japan’s victims were civilians.  Second, a nation, at some point, will be held responsible for the acts of its rulers.  For their appeasement of the rulers, for their tacit approval, for their submission, for their allowing of a monster to be created from their ranks.  No regime in the world could commit atrocities on such mass scale without the support (tacit or active) of its citizenry. 

Lastly, the A-bomb and its use were creatures of their time.  There was a mad race by all sides at that point to build a nuke.  And whoever had built the first one would have used it against the other side.  The United States just happened to be the winner in that lottery, and used the bomb judiciously against the worst of the worst.  Do you really believe that Japan, Germany or the Soviet Union would not have used an atomic bomb if they had gotten their hands on one first?  Japan would have probably dropped one on every population center in China just for testing purposes. 

So, please spare us your crocodile tears for WWII Japan.  Even they have apologized—many times over—for their crimes against humanity.  You, the leftover fossil America hating Iranians are some of the only creatures on this planet who—in your utter desperation-- turn a blind eye to their atrocities just so that you can throw a bunch of “fohsh” at the U.S. 

 

Blog photo: Chinese civilians being buried alive by the Japanese.  Source. 

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Anonymous Observer

DM Jaan -

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I hear you brother, I hear you...

 


Dr. Mohandes

AO lol

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Hey, remember that thing about leaving angry comments for your with bloodshut eyes?:))

i think we got one right here BRO:))


Anonymous Observer

That's right BoBo

by Anonymous Observer on

You are, of course, correct.  I know realize it.  You never said the things that you clearly said.  That sho'ar at the end of your comments doesn't say what it says.  We just don't get it.  At least I don't get it.  I don't get you, and your greatness.  Perhaps it's because I am a student of proletarian literature.  Or perhaps it's my substandard education.

But you...you put Shakespeare to shame.  And by that I mean your ability to try to bullshit your way out of a jam.  No, I stand corrected.  You're not Shakespeare.  You're more of a philosopher. You're the reincarnation of Rene Descartes.  And when it comes to English literature, you're the reincarnation of Edgar Allan Poe.  Oh, wait!  You will be the reincarnation of Edgar Allan Poe--once you learn where to place your commas and periods when you use quotation marks.  Hint: they go inside the marks.

//grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/quotation.htm

I mean, I'm expected not to know this.  Buy you...the reincarnation of Edgar Allan Poe...how could you not?  Anyway, until you learn that fifth grade grammar rule, we will just call you Edgar Allan Schmoe.

Now I will take my leave of you and will proceed to do what people like us do when we are not captivated by the greatness of the likes of you: watch Southpark.   


Joubin

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by Joubin on

Clearly it was not my intention to engage you in a conversation, cupcake.  But I am quite satisfied with the result, nonetheless.  The fact you have demonstrated a difficulty with the trivial tasks of parsing "only then" and usage of quotes is sufficient to establish the necessary background to your 'thoughts' for subsequent readers of "[your]" blog.  (Single quotes are subtly different.  Square brackets .. oh, never mind.) 

As for "little minds", I am entirely open to the possibility that that is the case, but given that regardless of its scale it has served me quite well to date, I have no complaints and have not but Sepaas beh Paravardegaar in that regard.  

And you are entirely correct that you are not my "bro" -- Heaven forbid "it"! It is good to be reminded of such things, for every day is indeed a timely occasion to thank God for favors, both great and small. 

And now I shall take my leave from "[your]" blog and leave you to your 'thoughts'. 

Think Clearly, Speak Straight, and Act Decisively.  Only then will you be an Iranian.


Fesenjoon2

اندر حکایات این فروم

Fesenjoon2


می سرخ عزیز 

یکی از دلایلی که اینجانب به ژاپنی ها ارادت خاصی دارم این است که بر اشتباهات گذشته خود معترف و به جای مشت بر سینه کوبیدن و انکار تاریخ خود سعی بر حرکت بسوی آینده ای بهتر دارند. آلمانی ها هم همینطور. آنها نیز گذشته خود را انکار نمیکنند بلکه آن را مقیاسی برای سنجش وضع امروزی خود می نگارند. تنها در سایه قبول کردن اشتباهات و کاستی ها و سعی در برطرف کردن آنهاست که پیشرفت حقیقی در سطح جامعه و کشوری رخ میدهد. آلمان و ژاپن اگر امروزه اینقدر پیشرفت کرده اند به سبب فروخوردن غرور گذشته خود و قبول کردن مسئولیت تاریخ خود بوده است. 

من و جناب آ.او. نیز مکررا بر همین نکته همواره پافشاری کرده ایم: اگر قرار است ایران از این وضعیت نابسامان و چرخه حماقت ابدی خود خارج شود راهی جز آن ندارد که نواقص و تاریکی های گذشته و حال خود را شناسایی کرده و جهت برطرف سازی آن قدم بردارد. نه اینکه کوس انالحق نواخته و دنبال انداختن مسئولیت بدبختی های خود بر دوش دیگری (دشمن متجاوز و مستکبرین و انگلیس پیر و آمریکای جهانخوار و صهیونیسم جهانی و غیره) باشد.

شما الان مستحضرین همین فروم (باوفا و پیامبر خراسان و غیره) را نگاه کنید. یا به دنبال نشان رفتن انگشت اتهام بر آمریکا یا دیگری هستند (و شانه خالی کردن از مسئولیت پذیری خود و کشور خود) و یا چنان غرق در افتخارات گذشته ایران هستند که مخالفین عقیدتی خود را به تمسخر گرفته و آنان را غیر ایرانی می نامند. همین باوفایی که اینقدر دم از میهن پرستی می زند کاربر دیگری همانند آ.او. را در همین فروم به دیوانه خانه فرا خوانده. چرا؟ چون آ.او. صرفا نظرش را توی بلاگش در مورد جنگ جهانی دوم نوشته. خب این آقا (مهرداد) با امثال آخوندها یا مریم رجوی خداوکیلی چه تفاوتی دارد؟ هر سه تحمل نظر مخالف را ندارند و عیب و ایراد را از دیگری (آمریکا و استکبار جهانی و خودفروخته هایشان) میدانند و دهانشان در دشنام و تمسخر دیگران قدر دروازه قزوین گشاد است. وضوحا چرخه حماقت در گذشته و حال ایران را همین ها دامن میزنند. توهمِ بر حق بودن چنان اینها را کور کرده که حالا حالا ها بر ایران و ایرانی امیدی نیست و چرخه حماقت حالا حالا ها ادامه خواهد داشت. دیروز اشرف و ساواک. امروز آخوند و سپاهی. فردا هم یک الاق بی سروپای دیگر.  

خلاصه می جان...بنظر من مسلم است که این فرهنگ غرور نابجای ملی و تمرکز روی ایرادات دیگری (امریکا و اسراییل و اوپوزیسیون و غیره) هیچ نتیجه ای در بر ندارد جز دامن زدن بر وضع فعلی ایران و ایرانیان.   

راستی....گیاهخواری اونقدرا هم چیز بدی نیستا. فقط باید کمی خلاق بود. من هم از غذاهای گوشتی فراریم. هر چند فسنجان چیز دیگریست. بخصوص با رب انار مناسب! 

 


Dr. Mohandes

AO

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Funny how some poeple ever so passionately advocate for Fereedom ov espeeech and Demokracyyyy right?:)

Makes one wonder if what they are really hearing is the word "peech" when you tell them about feereedpm ov espeech!


Anonymous Observer

Not your "bro."

by Anonymous Observer on

Don't like it when your idiocy is exposed?

I actually believe that the seminal moment in Iranians' collective "clarity of thought" was when they saw Khomeini's image reflected on the surface of the Moon.  :-)

PS- personal attacks are boring....

Get alife...or feel free to hurl insults on my blog.  I'm used to being attacked by small minds who really don't have much to say except for foaming at the mouth personal attacks.  


Joubin

Congratulations

by Joubin on

You really have the repulsive persona thing down pat.  (But you do need to work on your English comprehension skills, "bro".)

Think Clearly, Speak Straight, and Act Decisively.  Only then will you be an Iranian.


Anonymous Observer

Yeah...

by Anonymous Observer on

Think Clearly, Speak Straight, and Act Decisively.  Only then will you be an Iranian.

Really?  That's the defining characteristic of an Iranain?!!!  That's why Iranians are being ruled by the only theocracy on the planet in 21st century?  Because they "think clearly" and "act decisively?"  Like when they "thought clearly" and "acted decisvely" in 1979 by pouring onto the streets like crazed lunatics and brought upon themselves one of the most oppressive regimes in their 2500 year history.


Joubin

@JJ

by Joubin on

This blog is border-line hate speech.

It is entirely regrettable that a for-profit entity driven by click throughs and motivated by advertisement lucre has managed to snatch the domain IRANIAN.com and hosts such content matter.  

As if it were not enough to have the shepesh of IRI drag the honorable name of IRAN through the muck, we must now have unhinged characters such as the 'author' of such 'penetrating thoughts' make further inroads in the project of painting an entire nation as an unpalatable and disagreeable people.

The rather strong reaction of the commentators on this post will be lost in the telegraphic culture of the net.  What will be seen and will be discussed is the fact that on "IRANIAN" dot com, content matter justifying the nuclear holocaust of a nation is present and promoted.  

Do we not have enough enemies? 

Think Clearly, Speak Straight, and Act Decisively.  Only then will you be an Iranian.


anglophile

Qajari's record in savagery remains unmatched even by the IRI

by anglophile on

Don't muddy the waters Assdola joon who is talking about the Pahlavis? excpet you :))  typical qajari style. When they are cornered they turn against the Pahlavis. No Assdola joon don't do "na'el varooneh" because the history of the last two hundred years speaks for itself: Kerman genocide of 1779 (7000 - 20000) In his quest for power, he [Aga Mohmmad Khan] razed cities, massacred entire populations, and blinded some 20,000 men in the city of Kerman. //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qajar_dynasty Babi/Bahai genocie of 1848-1853 (3000 - 20000)  Conservative estimates put the total number of Babis killed during the whole period of 1848 to 1853 at 3,000, while other historians, including the Iranian court chronicler Sipihr and the Baha’i leader ‘Abdu’l-Baha (1844– 1921), claim 20,000 or more. [Nasseuddin Shah] //www.nhbahais.com/BahaiPapers/suspended_genocide.pdf also see //books.google.co.uk/books?id=WnhSbFFEq0cC&pg=PA125&lpg=PA125&dq=baha'i+massacre+under+qajar&source=bl&ots=apB8DGd6q6&sig=G5holDeej9XSBTbjeVQTPJxx8ZY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6Q6cT_TTEoKI0AXsidmYDw&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=baha'i%20massacre%20under%20qajar&f=false Tehran and Tabriz massacres of 1278 (h.s.)  Under Mohammad Ali shah who had sold himself to the Russians Col. Liakhov shells the Majlis and kills at least 1200 pro-constitution protesters. Later the Mohammad Ali sets an 11 months siege of Tabriz and after bombarding the city with the aid of Russians which results in the kliing of thousands of constitutionalists he captures the town and kills all those who dared to challenege his dictatorship. Many leading constitutionalsist like Malekol Motekalemin and Souresrafi had already been hanged or ripped into pieces by the order of Mohammad Ali Shah in the infamous Baghe-Shah. //fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AF_%D8%B5%D8%BA%DB%8C%D8%B1 Need I say more Assdola? 

Shazde Asdola Mirza

خوشبختانه پهلوی قاجار را روسفید کرد، همانطوریکه خمینی پهلوی را

Shazde Asdola Mirza


 

Reza Gholdor (Lumpen) quickly and clearly rinsed any memory of Qajar brutality, with his own rein of unmitigated terror, blood and torture ... just the way Khomeini "served" the memory of murderous Pahlavi dynasty.

That's been the beauty of Iranian history: Every new ruler makes the previous one look good!

But again, we digress.

The key issue of this blog is: whether a "civilized" power should be allowed to brutalize and massacre even an "uncivilized" enemy. My answer is no! The quality of a true civilized nation comes through in the way that it treats its worst enemies. The practical importance of this point is in the current and real policy issue of how USA and the West should treat rogue nations like N. Korea and Iran ... nuke them!?


anglophile

Qajari cruelty did not begin or end with the Castrated one!

by anglophile on

It is rather surprising to see how Assdola is so convinently as well as selectively blind to the developmets made in the science of genetics and DNA testig since the last century. I say surprising becuase he has studied for a life scinece degree (was it pharmacology Assad or biochem?) so he must know at least a little about how genes can be propagated across as well as along the family tree (proof comig shortly). And I say selectively because he is readily happy to relate the demagoguery of a distant cousin like Mossadegh to the Qajari gene pool but reluctant to relate the brutality of Fath Ali, Mohammad's nephew to his uncle!! Qajar'i tribe who come from a Turkman origin and pride themselves in being the relatives of the Mongol Mass Murderer, Genghis, began their barbaric (or should we say "bad" behaviour as Assad prefers), as back ago as Genghis' onslought of Iran and their savage genocide of tens of thousands of people in each town and city that they visited. Fath Ali himself exhibited his appetite for savagery by boiling  alive his one time ally,  Mirza Ibrahim Kalantar in a big pot of boiling water! We see Qajari penchant for immense cruelty durig the Bahai genocidal suppression under Nasserddin, and the mass killings in Tabriz and Tehran under Mohammad Ali. Should I go through the killing of individual and prominent personalities like Suresrafil in Baghshah?

Shazde Asdola Mirza

Good thing that no Qajar is descendant of Agha Mohammad Khan!

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

I don't think that it is such a good idea to carry this blog's argument all the way back and over to Qajar Iran ... as that time was different and the conditions were not parallel.

In case of Agha Mohammad, we had a courageous but outraged man, who had been captured, tortured and casterated by enemies, at the tender age of 10 ... and then imprisoned for another 15 years. Classic story of brutal countries like medieval Iran, where the closed circle of crime, torture and revenge, ruled supreme.

On the other hand, in the case of USA vs. Japan at the end of WWII, we had a superpower well in control of the war situation, having destroyed almost all of the enemy military, industry and economic strenght, and even having fire-bombed almost all the significant Japaness cities into ruble.

It is no surprise to read that the crazed, frustrated and manaical Agha Mohammad (thirsty for the blood of his enemies), would go and do what he did. But it is an important point to question the morality and even the need for the Atomic bombings of Japan by the US of A.

Many historians believe that if FDR had not died, he wouldn't have gone against the 100 scientists who signed the famous petition against the A-bombing of Japan. The same 100 (led by Einstein) who had originally called for the development of A-bomb.

It is not strange and unexpected for a backward country king (like Agha Mohammad) to do untold attrocities (to revenge the pains of his own tortured body and soul). But it is surprising to see that even the most advanced countries (like USA) can get to the point of ruthless genocide, smack in the middle of the 20th century.

Finally, the key issue of this blog is: whether a "civilized" power should be allowed to brutalize and massacre even an "uncivilized" enemy.

My answer is no! The quality of a true civilized nation comes through in the way that it treats its worst enemies. 


anglophile

من میگویم که آب انگور خوش است

anglophile


 

گویند کسان بهشت با حور خوش است

من میگویم که آب انگور خوش است

این نقد بگیر و دست از آن نسیه بدار

کاواز دهل شنیدن از دور خوش است

 

تا دیدار بعدی شراب میرزا

 


Red Wine

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by Red Wine on

آنگلوفیل تو خودت را بیخود به پهلوی نچسبان که هیچ ربطی‌ بدینشان نداری... اشکال در تاریخ نویسان است،زیاد هم دور نگیر که برایت ضرر دارد،دنیا عوض شده است،سعی‌ کن اینرا قبول کنی‌ وگرنه با این همه سیاه بازی و سیاه کاری که انجام می‌‌دهی‌،کسی‌ ترا جدی نمیگیرد و حیف که این همه دانسته داری و بلد نیستی‌ چگونه آنرا در اختیارِ دیگران قرار دهی‌.

قهوه هم برایت خوب نیست،چای سبز بنوش و آرام گیر.


anglophile

شراب میرزا دیگه قرار نبود شلوغش کنی‌ عزیز جون

anglophile


 

اولا این طور که شما میگی‌ پس همه تاریخو باید روش علامت سوال گذاشت! چطور وقتی‌ میگیم که علی‌ یا عمر بقول حضرت عالی‌ کرور کرور ایرانی میکشتند هیچ اشکالی نداره شک و تردید هم نباید به خود راه داد (نه اینکه بخوام طرفداری کنم از اونا) هیچ کس هم نمی‌گه حدود و ثغور ایران چقدر بوده یا اگه بگن چنگیز و تیمور ده‌ها هزار آدم کشتند باید قبول کرد ولی وقتی‌ به ایل شریف قجر به رهبری محمد اخته میرسیم همه چیز باید با سند و مدرک دادگاهی‌ و احتمالا به ویدئو کلیپ همراه باشه؟ از بیست هزار تا هفتاد هزار تا مورّخین مختلف خبر دادند که آدم کشته شده و چشم در آورده شده. چه رقمی‌ برای جناب عالی‌ معقول و قابل هضم به نظر میاد؟ ده هزار تا؟ پنج هزار تا؟دو هزار تا؟هزار تا؟ پونصد تا؟ جهنم میگیم صد تا خوب شد؟ آخه بابا دیگه خجالت هم خوب چیزیه؟ این روزا یه دیوونه رو در نروژ برای کشتار ۷۷ نفر محاکمه میکنند همه ملت نروژ و هر انسان بشردوستی داغداره اونوقت شما میگی‌ کشتار حالا بگیریم صد نفر از مردم کرمان و کور کردنشون "یک اشتباه بوده"؟!!

در ثانی‌ خاندان شریف (!!) قجر ماشااللّه یکی‌ و دوتا هم که نبودند. نزدیک به صد و بیست سی‌ سال با زور و ستم به ایران حکومت کردند پس اگر ما از هرکجاش ایراد بگیریم به قبای یکی‌ باید بر بخوره ولی‌ شما و پا منبری شما یعنی اسدالله این حق رو به خودت میدی که هرچی‌ بد و بیراه دلت میخواد به خاندان پهلوی نثار کنی‌ هیچکس هم نباید بگه چرا؟ حالا شما نشون بده من کجا به زن و بچه شما یا هر کس دیگه توهین کردم؟

راستی‌ قهوه قجری چی‌ شد :))


Demo

روز موعود

Demo


چگونه ممکن است که میرزایی از اصل و نسب قاجار که به گفته خود به خدا معتقد است نتواند بپذیرد که خالق خودش و انگوری که از آن شراب قرمز را میسازد روزی محمد خان قاجار را به تماشای ویدیوی واقعی جنایات و یا اصلاحات! او می نشاند که دیگر اگر ایشان تمام شرابهای قرمز عالم را هم بنوشد نمیتواند به خلسه رود و اعمال خود را حاشا کند. آنروز روزی است موعود که ممکن است همین امروز و یا فردا باشد!


Red Wine

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by Red Wine on

انگلوفیل،من شکی‌ در اشتباهاتِ حکام و سلاطینِ قاجار در امورِ کشوری و اجتماعی را ندارم،اما دو مطلب را شما نادیده میگیری و ما بدان خرده میگیریم:

-تعدادِ افرادی که به قتل رسیدند،این همه نمیتوانسته باشد،هیچ گونه دیوان خوانی وجود ندارد که تایید کند که اولا تعداد جمعیتِ مردم کرمان دران زمان چقدر بوده است و دوما چقدر از بینِ اینان تیغ بر علیه مردان خاقان کشیده ند و سپس در بینِ مردم مخفی‌ شدند.

اشکال کار همانی است که در رابطه با نانکینگ عرض شد،از کجا تا به کجا را حوالی کرمان دانسته اند آنانی‌ که این همه تعدادِ کشته می‌‌دهند ؟ امروزه حضرات در تعداد هولوکاست شک داشته و از این جریان بیش از ۷۰ سال تنها گذشته..حال چگونه میتوان اطمینان داشت به آن مواردی که بیش از چند سال از آن گذشته و هر کس بر حسب سودِ کارِ زمانه کتابی نوشته و اضافاتی از خودش درآورده است.

اشکال کار در تعدادِ آن کشته شدگان است و اینکه تمامی کتاب‌های تاریخ معاصر باید باز نویسی شوند.

-نکته دیگر این است که شما اگر عیب،اشکال و هزار نکته دیگر در قاجار میبینی‌،چرا به خانواده محترمِ ایشان بی‌ احترامی می‌‌کنید ؟ اگر سلاطین و حکامِ قاجار نا خلافی کرده ند،به زن و بچه ایشان چه ؟! هر کس را در قبرِ خود می‌‌خوابانند،اشکالِ کارِ شما این است که احترام خانواده را نگاه نمیدارید و این واقعاً زشت و نا پسند است.

روزِ خوبی‌ داشته باشید.


anglophile

شراب میرزا جان

anglophile


 

شراب میرزا جان

 

شما یکی‌ (فقط یکی‌ بیشتر هم نه) سند نشون بده از هر مورخی که دوست داری میخواد قجری باشه میخواد حجری باشه که بگه کشتار نفوس و چشم در آوردن مردم بی‌ پناه بوسیله محمد خوجه تو کرمان دروغ بوده. اون وقت بیا یه قهوه قجری مهمون من.


Red Wine

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by Red Wine on

انگلوفیل،وراجی و مفتزنی درباره تاریخ را پیشه خود کرده ای،مبارکت باشد اما بدان که دیگر هیچ کس این دروغ‌ها را باور نمیکند،حال بنشین و پشم‌های مبارکِ ملکه را حنا بگیر.


anglophile

Qajari genocide in Kerman!

by anglophile on

Talking of Bad Behaviour Assdola jan! It is so uncharacteristic for a proud remnant of qajar tribe to say:

Bad behavior (e.g. mass killing of civilians) should be rejected and condemned, no matter who does it (be it US of A or IR of I).

Are you good enough to acknowledge the genocide committed on the orders of his Imperial Castrati Mohammad qajar in Kerman. There are so many historic accounts of this appaling massacre I don't really need to search too much. Here is one sample:

"In Shiraz, Lutf Ali Khan also sought no entry due to the hold of Aga Muhammad Khan. He fought next year with the Qajars, and defeated them in 1206/1792. In 1209/1794, Lutf Ali Khan captured Kirman. Aga Muhammad Khan besieged it for six months. It is said that Pir Mirza Muhammad Bakir had given a shelter to Lutf Ali Khan in a fort, who was seriously injured and sought mercy. Lutf Ali Khan finally managed to escape from Kirman, to which Aga Muhammad Khan, while entering Kirman, had accused the local people to have helped in escaping Lutf Ali Khan. By the vengeance he was wreaking on the inhabitants of Kirman, and issued orders to deprive all the adult males of their life, or of their eyesight; and the females and children, to the number of twenty thousand, were granted as slaves to the soldiers. G.R.G. Hambly writes in "Aqa Mohammad Khan and the establishment of the Qajar Dynasty" (JRAS, vol. L., January, 1963, p. 166) that, "Kerman was systematically ravaged for three months. Twenty thousand women and children were handed over to the army or sold as slaves. For the male population a different punishment was reserved and tradition relates that 7,000 eyes were brought to the conqueror, who personally counted them, informing the officer in charge of the operation: "Had one been missing, yours would have been taken!" As a memorial to the downfall of the Zand dynasty, a pyramid of skulls was erected in Bam on the spot where Lotf Ali Khan had been captured. Six hundred prisoners were executed in Kerman and their heads were carried to Bam by a further three hundred who were decapituted when they reached their destination. According to Henry Pottinger, this monument was still standing in 1810."

//www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=qajar+massacre+in+kerman&oq=qajar+massacre+in+kerman&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.12...6877.11530.0.13788.16.16.0.0.0.2.744.2305.4-2j0j2.4.0.lshMPJgbQoo&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=2d7ffbad5bedb1f&biw=1024&bih=673

I am sure you are good enough to remind our good friend "Sharab Mirza" of your dynastical contributions to humanity.

 //www.aftabir.com/articles/view/politics/plitical_history/c1c1250433855_kerman_p1.php/%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84-%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%85-%DA%A9%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86

 

 


Shazde Asdola Mirza

There are no good or bad people; only good or bad behavior

by Shazde Asdola Mirza on

Fire bombing of Japanese cities by the US airforce (led by maniac Curtis Lemay); followed by the atomic massacre of Hiroshima and Nakazaki ... cannot be justified by any humane logic.

The unarmed general populace of a country cannot be held responsible and indiscriminately punished, for the actions of its army. Otherwise, there will be no limit to the calls by terrorist appeasers who prefer to see the US cities nuked (e.g. as you can see in the comment by AmirVizViz below) or Talaban who plan to kill all the Western residing people.

Bad behavior (e.g. mass killing of civilians) should be rejected and condemned, no matter who does it (be it US of A or IR of I). Otherwise, any country can fall further and further down in the immoral pit of malbehavior, which leads to the hegemony of monsters in its own internal power structure ... just as happened to the US, starting with the Japan massacres and ending with the Vietnam war (Nixon era).

It took a generation of Americans to correct their bloody history in East Asia and South America; and US paid dearly for that criminal past, with a general degradation of its own society (counter culture), as well as almost losing its leading role in the world politics. 


cvaughan59

America-hating Iranians?

by cvaughan59 on

J. C. Vaughan

I am no expert on what all of the Iranians in amrika are thinking. However, I have known Iranians both here in amrika and in Germany and Iran.  I have not found them to be amrika-hating or to harbor hatred for the people of amrika.  They may not like this or that thing that amrika - or more correctly, the amrika government or the elites of Wall Street - may have done, but what of that?  You can read the "Economic Collapse" blog or the "End of the American Dream" blog and get a full load of anger directed at those fools, who in my own minor opinion seem to be utterly incapable of doing anything at all without screwing it up all to hell and gone (pulp reference to Dan Turner, Hollywood Detective).  And as for Japan and its crimes, I do not excuse them, but I would be very surprised if any group of people did not have more than enough acts of infamy that could be held against them.  I have even heard that old Persia may have had a hand in inventing the most sickenly perverted method of torture-execution ever, the abomination known as impaling, later perfected in horror by Vladilaus IV Drakulya, warrior prince of Wallachia (south Romania), which makes anything done in Sodom and Gomorrah look like mild times at the local Gay bar (or at least, the minimum security prison).  The proper thing is to acknowledge falling short of "the glory of God", sincerely repent and pray for forgiveness, and do everything possible to prevent such disgusting atrocity in the future.  And here is a huge hint: you can start with forgiveness, the one overwhelming quality of a merciful and compassionate God, and the one thing that R.K., A.K., A.M. and all of their troop seem to be completely incapable of understanding.  And finaally as for the elites of amrika, they seem to be so blind, self-centered and stupid they can't even tell when there is a problem.

 


Anonymous Observer

Absolutely Fesenjoon

by Anonymous Observer on

I know all about the Muslim SS division. Here's the Mufti meeting Uncle Adolf himself:

//www.lisistrata.com/lisistrata3/images/uploads/Amin_al_Husseini_und_Adolf_Hitler.jpg

 


Red Wine

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by Red Wine on

فسنجانِ گرامی‌،سلام به شما (هوسِ خوردنِ ۲ تا بشقاپِ پر از فسنجون [به روشِ آذری،کاشونیا و مازندرونیا هم خوب بلدن دلمون رو آب کنن] کردیم جونِ شما،منتهی این گیاهخواری ما داره کار دسمون میده !) ...

قسمی از آن کتب را می‌‌شناسم،قسمی را خوانده ام،مشکلِ من با کلمه فاشیسم و فاشیست است،این یک نظرِ شخصی‌ است،شاید من زیاد احساساتی شده و طرفِ خاص از ژاپن میگیرم..نمی‌ دانم اما می‌‌دانم که این کلمه برای آنچه که این کشور انجام داد،بسیار ثقیل است،همان متجاوز را بیشتر پسندیده بینم،نظر شخصی‌ است و ما به نظراتِ دوستان احترام می‌گذاریم.

بهارتان همچنان سبز باد.


Fesenjoon2

آ او جونم

Fesenjoon2


از مردمانی که تمام هم و غمشون اظهار تنفر از یهودیان است چه انتظاراتی داری؟

اینها اگر الان آلمان و ژاپن از جنگ دوم جهانی پیروز در آمده بود در زمره ی نازی های آریایی پرست بودند!

میدانید که...مسلمانان با نازی های نژادپرست همسو بودند.

//fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%84%D8%B4%DA%A9%D8%B1_%DA%A9%D9%88%D9%87%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C_%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%B2%D8%AF%D9%87%D9%85_%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%81%D9%86_%D8%A7%D8%B3%E2%80%8C%D8%A7%D8%B3_%D8%AD%D9%86%D8%B6%D8%B1

توجه دارید که این تصاویر در ویکی پدیا قبل از تاسیس کشور اسراییل برداشته شده.

 //commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)

این قصه سر دراز دارد خلاصه. قومگرایی و تنفر متاسفانه در فرهنگ ما ریشه عمیقی دوانیده. متاسفانه. البته اینها همه از برکات دین و مسلکیست که زنان را ناقص العقل میداند و یهودیان را نجس.


Fesenjoon2

می سرخ

Fesenjoon2


می سرخ گرامی

آنچه که عیان است چه حاجت به بیان است؟

در اینکه ژاپن یکی از موارد فاشیسم در تاریخ بوده است شکی نیست. این منابع را نگاهکی بیاندازید

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS434US434&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=japan+fascism#rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS434US434&q=japan+fascism&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=bks&source=og&sa=N&tab=wp&ei=nnOZT4ORDYi68AShopHxBQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=a9bf9b3bf4033849&biw=1600&bih=799


Anonymous Observer

Doost-e Geraami Red Wine

by Anonymous Observer on

Thanks again for contributing with your insightful comment.  Always a pleasure to read your material.  I corrected my comment based on what you have raised here.  I just think that in WWII, the Japanese Empire embodied the elements of a fascist entity.

I will take you up on that offer.  I will definitely call on you if I'm in Paris for a get together and a drink.  I'm serious about that.  I'm planning on visting Paris within the next year of so.  Perhaps summer of 2013.   


Red Wine

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by Red Wine on

اذیت نکن دیگر تصدقت ... :)

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- امپراطوری ژاپن همچنان هفت قرن است که با صلابت به پیش می‌‌رود،یک صد و بیست و پنجمین امپراطور آکیهیتو نام دارد.

- ژاپن فاشیست دیگر چه صیغه‌ای است قربانت گردم ؟! این را از کجا در آوردی این وقتِ روز :) ؟!اگر میگفتی‌ متجاوز،باز قابلِ قبول بود،اما فاشیست ؟!

حال سرِ وقت به یکبار به دوری جمع شده،شرابی نوشیم و بحث و جدلی درین رابطه با هم داشته باشیم...

عزت زیاد.