The Myth of "Iran has Not Attacked Anyone in 400 Years"

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Anonymous Observer
by Anonymous Observer
12-Oct-2011
 

Often times when there is a discussion about IR’s belligerence and warmongering, we hear the IR created myth and propaganda that Iran is a peaceful nation and that it has not attacked anyone in 400 years.  The same nonsense is repeated by its supporters, lackeys and wannabes everywhere, including on this site.  And now we’re hearing it again after the arrest of that retarded terrorist monkey from Texas.

While it is true that Iranians, pre-IR, were a peaceful nation, the IR cannot, and should not, take credit for the Iran’s peaceful past, as it has shown for the past 32 years that it is one of the most dangerous and aggressive regimes that has ever existed on this planet.  Indeed, the IR has, on many occasions throughout the past 32 years, attacked various nations.  Here are some examples:

-Taking U.S. diplomats in Iran hostage (attack on the U.S.);

-U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut (attack on the U.S.);

-Hijacking on TWA flight and killing an American citizen through its agent Imad Moghniyeh (attack on the U.S.);

-Hijacking of Kuwait Airways (attack on Kuwait);

-Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia (attack on U.S. and Saudi);

-Jewish center bombing in Argentina (attack on Argentina);

-Last but not the least: the latest terror plot in the U.S. (attack on Saudi Arabia and U.S.).

So, let’s not confuse IR’s incompetence and lack of military ability to launch a full scale war against another nation as “evidence” of its “peaceful” nature.  The IR has perpetrated acts of war against various nations even without having a pot to piss in (in a military sense.)  We can only imagine what it would have done if it actually had some military power. 

Khoda khar ro shenaakht ke behesh shakh nadad!

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Arj

?!

by Arj on

AO, I don't get it! Apparently you have some sort of fixation with Aftabeh!


Anonymous Observer

Arj - you forgot "aftabeh bedast..."

by Anonymous Observer on

Hence their efforts and attempts at bashing Iranians as "kabab-sucking," "backward thinking" and even outright "agressors..."

You forgot "aftabeh bedast."  We did invent it after all.  It's a source of pride for all of us.

Silliness and naneh man ghareebam have no bounds... :-)


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Re: Separatism

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

When I hear people talk about one group over another I can tell. By the way I have very little to do with NIAC. 

As for helping 7 Iranians it is just your word. I could just as easily say I helped 7000. 

If Iranians are to be free we better put aside the ethnic card. When it is played I hear "separatism". It is reinforced by the anger in the response. The only way to freedom is by unity not "my ethnic group got it worse than yours".


Walt

Not so Veiled Prophet of NIAC

by Walt on

Where exactly do you see me calling for separatism?  The IRI are the separatist by their actions of attacking every ethnic and religious minority in Iran.  They imprison, torture, rape and execute to quell minority dissent.  Do not try to  deflect from the original topic as you always seem to do, this is about IRI attacks and that is what I wrote about.  To clarify, the attacks against the kurds by the IRI that I mentioned, occur both in Iran and Iraq.  I know it is dificult for you, but please try to focus.

Can I asked how many Iranians you have helped today?   I have helped 7 in the last 24 hours and they welcomed and appreciated the assistance. 

It is not just the 'Basiji Tyranny' that the Iranian people are subjected to.  The Basiji simply carry out the orders of their fascist masters.  The whole regime, from the top down must go, including Khamenei.  That is the wish of the Iranian people.  Get a grip and learn how to read.

Khoda hafez


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Walt

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Pleases try to be original. Most of us whom you criticize have jobs and they are not NIAC jobs. Nor do we word for IRI; old BS.

Regarding "Kurdistan" it has been attacked by many nations. Turkey is the prime one. But others have at times attacked Kurds specially Saddam. By

You are trying to stir up separatism and I can tell that from your writings. Iranian people stand united against Basiji tyranny and do not need your help. Thanks but no.


Walt

More Attacks

by Walt on

Lets not forget that Iran has been shelling Iraqi Kurdistan for six months, has been caught supplying arms to Syria, Africa in general, Yemen, Palestine, Iraq, Bahrain, Afghanistan, Pakistan to be used against those nations through their own quds Force, IRGC, Sadr's Madhi army, Hezbollah and Hamas.

If that isn't enough, how about the slaughter of their own citizens?  They attack Kurds, Ahwazi's, Baluchi's, Baha'i, Azari's, Lurs, Christians, Jews, political oposition parties, journalists, etc, etc,,,.

When they couldn't find people to kill recently in Kurdistan, they slaughtered their animals, horses, mules, goats and whatever else they could shoot or hack with blades.

I'm sure some real experts could add a dozen more attacks contrary to the stories and propaganda Parsi and NIAC write and Iranian.com publishes.  The regime in Iran is finished, maybe in days, weeks, or a month, but it is finished so you all better find new jobs. :) 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear Arj

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

You make very good points but these guys do not matter. They may say whatever they want.  The world is moving on and a bunch of aging Iranian bloggers are not going to matter. 


Anonymous Observer

Siavash -e gerami

by Anonymous Observer on

IR's entire existence as it relates to other nations can be summarized in this phrase:

Cheat and retreat! 

That's all. 


Siavash300

One point in history was missing

by Siavash300 on

Anonymous Observer,

you forgot to mention about installing mine in straight of Hormuz back in 1988. A bunch of them arrested by U.S navy. The funny part was all those who were arrested red handed when they were installling mine on straight of hormuz, they were requesting political refugee visa from U.S. They didn't want to go back to Iran or work for mullahs. They wanted to immigrate to U.S. Below is from encylopedia.

Operation Praying Mantis was an attack by U.S. naval forces on April 18, 1988 in retaliation for the Iranian mining of the Persian Gulf during the Iran Iraq war and the subsequent damage to an American warship.

Siavash


Arj

Re assimilations and eradications!

by Arj on

Dear VPK, the issue is not their eagerness to meld into the American Melting-pot, for if bleaching one's hair and naming their offsprings Monika and Shane would bring them inner peace and security, all the power to them. But in reality, the problem is that they still see other Iranians who are not willing or able to assimilate, as an extension of their own selves and reflection of their Iranian image, hence a source of embarrassment! Yet unfortunately, that doesn't stop there, but the entire population of Iran are the apparent target of the fascistic, yet imaginary designs of these cyber warriors! In other words, a rather cartoonish version of GWB's cult of personality; "if you're not with us, you're with the terrorists!"


Anonymous Observer

APSD - I though I made it clear in the blog

by Anonymous Observer on

This is the second paragraph:

While it is true that Iranians, pre-IR, were a peaceful nation, the IR cannot, and should not, take credit for the Iran’s peaceful past, as it has shown for the past 32 years that it is one of the most dangerous and aggressive regimes that has ever existed on this planet. 

Which is essentially what you're saying.  No? 


amirparvizforsecularmonarchy

Your article makes a big common mistake.

by amirparvizforsecularmonarchy on

You are confusing Iran with the Hezbollahi Party In Iran.

The world says Iran this, Iran that, Iran enriching Uranium. NO.

This Is The Hezbollahi Party In Iran, and It s Dragging Irans Name InTo The Dirt. It and They are Not Iran.  The Shahs Represented Iran.

This Ideology does not represent IRAN.


Anonymous Observer

Yeahh...I was thinking - I take it all back

by Anonymous Observer on

The IR is the most peaceful regime that has ever come about in the history of this planet.  It has never, ever, ever been involved in any kind of a terrorist or warmongering activity.  It's all a "vast Zionist conspiracy" against this good, noble and sacred regime.  Why don't we just call it the "Teflon regime?"  Nothing sticks, right?  

Nezam -e-moghaddas indeed!!!

PS- I don't really blame the IR for covering its tracks and claiming that it has never been involved in any of the acts that I listed above.  But you people, the cheerleaders, the enablers, the fooled, the blindly culturally narcissist West-o-phobes.  YOU, on the other hand, are a bigger problem.

Speaking of generations--one day, by the natural process of attrition, we will get rid of the 1960's and 1970's anti-Western revolutionary bacteria that are still trying to remain relevant and are still trying to milk the failed 1979 devolution in the desparate hopes of perhaps, just perhaps, the Islamic Republic finally delivering its much promised collapse of the "West."  When we get rid of this virus...that's when we will be able to move forward.

Now, I do not expect the trolls who are polluting this blog to really understand what I wrote above.  So, please feel free to excercise your blowhardedness (is that even a word?) and talk about your families to your little simpleton heart's content. 


Anonymous Observer

COP-e Gerami

by Anonymous Observer on

I agree with you.  I tried to make that point in the second paragraph as well.  But it looks as if it didn't come across clearly enough.  Perhaps Dr. Ala has a point about this not being my best work. :-)

Shad zi my friend.   


Cost-of-Progress

Not 400 years, but 32 years

by Cost-of-Progress on

Accuracy is important - Also, Iran in this context ironically means the Islamist pukes, not Iran as a nation.

That's my take anyway, correct me if I'm wrong Ao jaan.

____________

IRAN FIRST

____________


Disenchanted

AO joon put the humor aside and respond to my points!

by Disenchanted on

 

         By the way what's in the mail today from Tel aviv?! :-)

        People who question Iran's pacificity of last 400 years don't wish well for Iran. So that it be clear! 


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Dear Arj

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

Thank you for your response. Yes a significant number of Iranian post IRI will be Muslim. They will fast and mourn Ashura. Now a much greater number will eat chelo-kabab and some may even drink a beer with it.

As you said the good news is the "Super American Iranians" are not going back. A post-IRI Iran will not be made by them because they are settled in LA or Canada. Their children will be "real Americans" or "Canadian" and will not even remember Iran. I have a few of that kind in my extended family. If I showed you their picture you would not know they are Iranian. Not the looks; not the names not the behavior. They are fully integrated into American society which is after all the point of immigration. 

I have one relative who moved to US long before the revolution. He refused to speak Farsi; named his kids American names. We hear from him once a year if we are so honored. He would never come to Iran in the 60's and 70s because he was too "good". When I visited  him in America in mid 70s all he did was make fun of Iranians. To him and that crowd I say "good bye and good riddance".  If you don't want to be Iranian you don't have to.


Arj

"Out Americaning" Americans!

by Arj on

Excellent point dear VPK! There are those in Iranian diaspora who not only go to any length to show their American hosts that they're worthy of "Americanness," but wouldn't miss a chance to take a jab at their former compatriots to prove their loyalty to the new "land of the free and brave" and further distance themselves from their old embarrassing traditions. Hence their efforts and attempts at bashing Iranians as "kabab-sucking," "backward thinking" and even outright "agressors" who do not appreciate the freedom and democracy offered to them at the barrel of the gun by the "nobel" Americans, aka "the free world!" To them, it is not enough if one is against IRI, secular and pro-democracy. So long as you do not believe in moral supremacy of Uncle Sam, you are an "Islamist," "pro-terrorist," and "defender of IRI."

The bad news is; the problem of this bunch will not go away by the demise of IRI, for in a post-IRI free Iran, majority of Iranians would still believe in Islam, and a significant portion mourn on Ashura and fast in Ramazan, not to mention the same majority enjoy their Chelokabab washed down with a cold glass of doogh! This bunch will hold their grudges against the people for there would still be political (whether secular or not) parties who do not follow Washington's line and people would have the right to vote for them! Whereas the ideal scenario for these people is an American-led invasion of Iran that in their mind gurantees "Americanization" of the nation!

Yet the good news is; once this grumpy generation is gone, their next generation will not be as relevant, or have the same complexes and obsessions as their predecessors for they either do not speak Farsi, or even if they do, do not have the same hang ups or as much a feeling of inferiority due to having been raised in America!


Anonymous Observer

Amir Jaan

by Anonymous Observer on

Vergy good points.  Don't forget that IC's own user / contributor Jamshid (who hasn't been writing for a while) was the subject of a terror plot by the IR.  The guy that they used to try to kill him was an unemployed house painer named Ali Sadegh Nia from Michigan.  He was arrested, but then for some unknown reason, he was allowed to leave the United States while the case was pending to visit a sick family member.  It was later said that his release was a swap.  I forgot for who, but it was essentially a swap.  I guess Jamshid wasn't as important as the Saudi ambassador, so they let his would be assasain go.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

Regarding Iranians/non-Iranians

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

My point is that we should focus on Iranians who by far the greatest victims. While there may be debates on who did something in Lebanon there is not about Iran. We know for 100% sure that Iranians are being hanged all the time.

There was a post by Shifteh about 32,0000 Basiji show of force in Tehran. It got 2 comments. Why? But you get a post about 3 "hikers" and it gets 10s or 100s of posts. Maybe because people on IC are not interested in Iranians.

We debate a Jewish center in Argentina but not 1000s of political prisoners in Iran. I don't want to debate the former but the latter is 100% for sure. The Hizbolahi regime openly admits it. What more do we want? They hang people off cranes and I hear next to nothing. They put 2 foreigners in jail and people are all up in arms. Hizbollahi terror against Iranians is NOT the same as against others. It is worse. Much more prevalent and much greater in magnitude. If you want to stop terror you need to stop that first. Once that is stopped the rest will follow. For each terror act outside there are 100 inside. I greatly respect Farrokhzad; Bakhtiyar and other Iranian patriots. But for each of them there are 100 nameless ones inside Iran. There are three groups of terror victims:

  • Non Iranian. They get the most attention and "rage" is shown.
  • Iranians outside Iran. They get a little attention but not much. Germany did not even bother to prosecute the criminals who murdered them.
  • Iranians inside Iran. They get no attention. Not by the International groups; not by IC or anyone. Maybe an occasional mention by Amnesty. Then put on a shelf to gather dust.

It should be that last group that gets the most attention because there is more of them. No one should be treated differently when it comes to life. Once I see the word and Iranian diaspora doing it then we are on a roll.


AMIR1973

IRI terrorism against Iranians/non-Iranians = 2 sides of 1 coin

by AMIR1973 on

One shouldn't separate IRI's funding, training and support for Lebanese, Palestinian, and other Islamist terrorists and say "that's no big deal" from its killing and repression of Iranians. They are two sides of the same coin and are both the fruits of the murderous Islamist worldview of Khomeini and his thuggish associates and their building of networks with terrorists in other countries. In fact, the IRI has frequently used Arab terrorists to carry out its killings of Iranian dissidents (like the Mykonos killing. BTW, Kazem Darabi, one of the 2 men convicted of the murders and who was greeted by the IRI in Tehran was a grocer in Germany -- so much for the IRI not using someone from a background such as a car dealer and they would use someone more "professional", blah, blah). Of course, the IRI has killed a lot more Iranians than it has Americans. The Iranians are relatively defenseless, whereas the U.S. is not.


Anonymous Observer

Siavash -e gerami

by Anonymous Observer on

It's not just Fallahian.  Vahidi, the current defense minister also has an Interpol warrant out for his arrest for his involvement in the Jewish center bombing.

Look, when these parasites came out of South Lebanon - people like Chamran and Ahmad Khomeini who trained with the PLO and Amal in South Lebanon- they had an agenda, and the agenda was to attack the U.S. and Israel and their allies at any cost.  Since they did not have have the military might to do it they resorted to terrorist activities, such as hijackings, bombings, etc.   And they had the training to do it as well. Hence, what we have seen ever since.


Anonymous Observer

Doctor Ala - Thanks for your comments!

by Anonymous Observer on

seriously, I mean it!


Anonymous Observer

I also detect the usual amount of troll activity on this blog

by Anonymous Observer on

not unexpected though. 


Siavash300

Assumption !!!!.....

by Siavash300 on

"4. Same goes for Kuwait air, assumptions.

5. Khobar towers most probably done by Shia Saudis not Iran.

6. Jewish center psssssst, no evidence, pure assumptions"             HHH 

The above sentences are assumption of the writer. As far as fact concerned Falaheyan the head of ministry information who master minded bombing in Jewish center in Argentin is in the black list to get arrested once he leaves Iran. Criminality of this Islamic gang who occupied Iran for last 32 years is evident for any rational observer.

BTW,

The US didn't bring shah back in 1953, the Mass people of Iran brought shah back, US just supported their sympathizers. Giving credit to U.S embassy and few  CIA agents and ignoring the wish of our people in 1953 is insult to Iranians. Similarily giving credit to U.S in 1979 and denying our people wish is insult to our people. It is like denying Green movement with 2 million people on streets and giving credit to 10 or 15 people foreign agents from foreign country. Not to see 2 million people, but looking for 10 CIA agents. Mass makes the history, NOT CIA or Mossad agent. The writer had been brainwashed by ruling mullahs in Iran. They have to say those things to stay in power. We shouldn't be guilable to believe in stinky mullahs. Those who go with mullah's logic either are on payroll by them or they are ignorant.  Shah in 1953 is different with shah in 1979. In 1953 majority of Iranians liked their shah. In 1979, everbody hated shah.


Veiled Prophet of Khorasan

HHH

by Veiled Prophet of Khorasan on

 

What bothers me the most is the fake outrage ast come hiker. Or at some center ins Argentina. But no upset at what happens in Iran. If the Basiji kill 1000 people in Iran: not a word.

It is all about if the victims are Iranian the IC crowd does not care. If it is non Iranian then it is all "human" rights ...

About proof we hear it is difficulat so let us not bother :-) But justice requires proof.


HHH

It's 200 years not 400 years!

by HHH on

Get the numbers right. Now let's go over your bee-es-ic claims!

1A. The US embassy: In 1953 US used its embassy to fund a coup against Mossadegh & bring shah back, that was justificatuion alone to hold the embassy cut off from other coups. 1B.Some of the embassy agents/aka CIA agents shredded documents that after restoration showed their direct transfer of Eye-Rainian confidential military information to Israel and US which according to international law is considered spying & punishable by up to death. 1C. Shortly after hostage crisis & embassy takeover the students were going to release the hostages but Ronald-Reagan, the presidential candidate, on the advice of George-Bush Sr. promised a plane-full of weapons and airplane parts in exchange for Iran not releasing the hostages until his inauguration which students did just that and received the promised cargo.

2. US Marines had no business being in Beirut just as they have no business being in Afghanistan and Iraq. Nevertheless no one ever showed any evidence against Eye-ran. Beirut has enough extremists of it's own, it doesn't need to import any from Iran. The extremists are mostly the Palestinian refugees and Lebanese who are angry at US support of Israel.

3. Did you make Mr. Emad Eye-ran's agent or he told you he was?! again you're assuming things with no evidence.

4. Same goes for Kuwait air, assumptions.

5. Khobar towers most probably done by Shia Saudis not Iran.

6. Jewish center psssssst, no evidence, pure assumptions

7. Last but is the least ;) the terror-plot is a lie fabricated to attack Iran or the ships heading toward Atlantic ocean. The so called informant is a Mexican "Drug-Dealer" who has been promised amnesty in exchange for his testifying against the loser eye-rainian family-guy/car dealer and the money could be from anyone and the tape also a copy of his voice. Someone should ask the US " how did that mexican guy happen to go directly to the eye-rainian guy to entrap him? did the eye-rainian have a sign on his head (hiring assassins) ?!"

Khoda jeddan rahm kard keh shaakh nadaad ;)


Mohammad Ala

We have bigger problems to worry about...

by Mohammad Ala on

......  let us save our energy to help each other and preserve our country and its heritage....No personal attacks please.  Thanks.

 


AMIR1973

i question these people allegiance.

by AMIR1973 on

And what is your theory about "these people allegiance"?

Inquiring minds want to know... 

 


Disenchanted

VPK jan YOU ARE CORRECT SIR!

by Disenchanted on

 

       relentless Iranian bashing on this site is despicable!