Ari Siletz

Beechareh Pedaret

If he was what you claim, then he was part of a legendary generation of Iranian aviators that took Iran from a country that rode donkeys to the supersonic jet age, and one that mastered some of the most advanced technology in the world, and was way ahead of anybody in the region in terms of capabilities and economy and industrial growth.

He would be devastated to see today two things:

1)Everything he and his brothers and sisters worked for halted and squandered by a bunch of mullahs, such that countries like Turkey and Kuwait are way ahead of us in his domain, and the country that he helped bring up succumb to one of the most backward ideologies on this planet, all during the period when you were having fun on your 100 motorcycles in the good ol's US of A.

2)Seeing his own son advocate such an ideology and the stateless terrorist organization, the IRGC.  Not to mention defend the rape, murder, torture, and imprisonment of thousands of innocent Iranian youth

Your father was not interested in building a museum, he was building with his comrades a world class air force, only a shadow of which exists today, and no one takes seriously.  Furthermore, he had a country, and you don't.

That reminds you of him "in a good way"?  Don't torture his soul more than you have already.  You have betrayed the Iranian people and their son, your father.

Had a great motorcycle ride,

Had a great motorcycle ride, Fair. I've a newish BMW sportbike. There wasn't much traffic, the weather was nice, the roads clean and dry.

Before I took off, I topped off my tire pressures (front needed air!) and that made a noticeable difference. 

I've owned and ridden over 100 motorcycle in my day (I've been riding for over 30 years now). That includes Harleys, too. My last H-D was a FLTR Road Glide.

Have to say, my Iranian dad was a DC-3 pilot in the late 1950s. He was also a hand-on, mechanical sort, who wasn't afraid to takes things apart and put them back together- and successfully improvise over any shortcomings. The modern day IRIAF, especially with its refurbished 70s type aircraft, reminds me of him a lot, in a good way.

True ignorance of a stateless person

The "legal problem" with Azarakhsh is simple- your masters put out a
carbon copy of someone else's plane and claimed it as their design. 
Daylight robbery and illegal, but since when do you fascists have a
problem with that.

Furthermore, you ignore the main point- The Saegheh is LESS CAPABLE than
the plane it was derived from- the F-5, which is already a 50+year old
design.  They were shown firing unguided rockets and have no air to air
capability, which is at the latest 1950's operating procedure.  This is
not just a joke for the USAF, but also for much lesser air forces like
UAEAF or Pakistani or Kuwaiti or Saudi AF.  For you to come here and
claim they are used in an air to ground role to conduct area denial or
anything else is just misleading and bogus, but then again since when do
you have a problem with saying a bunch of bogus. You are the one who needs to get informed.

Have fun riding your motorcycle.  Is it a Harley by any chance?:)

Manufacturing reality No Fear

People genuinely supported their candidate from both sides which makes a
strong case for the legitimacy of the selection or election

You have no way of substantiating this, in a country where saying "where is my vote" gets you raped and imprisoned.  What is clear is that people genuinely supported CHANGE, because they came out and called for it during and after the election, the latter case being very dangerous but they still did it.  So no, you fall way short on even trying to claim legitimacy.

You may call it illegitimate for another 30 years and refrain from
voting as long as you wish. You are already an outsider, get use to it. 
;) 

Yes, and you may continue calling people like me and millions of others who have served our country, and are not allowed by your regime to serve our country any longer as "outsiders" for another 30 years. See how far that gets you while the rest of the developing world speeds ahead with way less resources.  Look at your "legitimate" regime today with all that oil and resources and brainpower in the country-where are they?  They are manufacturing decades old cars that nobody outside Iran would buy, have to import fuel just for our people to live in a country swimming in oil, they are wasting valuable natural gas while Russia and Qatar make a killing, they have completely missed the boat on technology and useful industries, they have the largest brain drain in the world, and are the largest prison for reporters in the world.

Keep it up, this "success" will continue.  You know why?  Because incompetent and arrogant people like you continue to hold power and play God stating who is an "outsider" and who is not.  Look at successful countries like South Korea, Brazil, Turkey- do their presidents call so many of their citizens outsiders and "dirt and dust"?  Learn something from them.

I have never advocated violence against anyone who has not picked up an
arm to prove his point. This includes Bahais, political prisoners and
human right activists

Really?  But you have no problem calling those same people who have suffered violence and left their countries as "hypocrites" with "nothing to show", and automatically disqualify them from being relevant because they left the country due to "hardships".  Make up your mind.

Infact, i support a president who has made the name of every political
prisoner publicly known and published in the media. Not like those who
executed them in thousands without any media coverages and didn't even
allow a name over their graves. 

You support a president who calls those who question his stolen and rigged election "dirt and dust", presides over the rape and imprisonment and torture of thousands of Iranian citizens (many of whose names are NOT published, their detainment is not even acknowledged).  As far as those who "executed them in thousands without media coverage". are you perhaps referring to PRESIDENT ALI KHAMENEI in 1988?  Or perhaps the LEADER Ayatollah Khomeini in 1988, who ordered this very action?  Because if you are, you should know that the murderer in your avatar is fully loyal and supportive of these anti Iran criminals.

Unlike you, we have a plan and a solution for Iran. And this solution
requires a step by step approach. We don't sit on our asses and dream
about a parliamentary government or a monarch riding a white horse or a
angel that drops down from the sky to rescue Iran. 

Yes, you have a  plan alright.  It is to rule by military dictatorship, exclude the best and brightest Iranians inside and outside Iran from contributing to  Iran's development, hand over the economy to a terrorist stateless organization called the IRGC, pump Iran's oil to China and buy crap from them, and send Iran down the drain.  You don't sit on your asses dreaming about an alternative government, you sit on your asses buying survival of a bankrupt ideology with Iran's  oil money fund and China's political backing, leading to the  destruction of Iran.

Or perhaps i am wrong and you do have a plan and solution. 

Indeed you are wrong.  The plan I believe in (and is happening now) is continued grass roots movement of Iran's youth, women, workers, and civil activists from the inside, putting pressure on the current military junta.  Simultaneously, Iranians abroad should act in a support role and continue to act as voices of those struggling inside Iran, make globally known the name and face of every victim of the IRR and its leaders, campaign against China and other supporters of this regime, and ignore arrogant and divisive statements like yours calling whole groups of Iranians "outsiders".  In this plan, ALL Iranians are INSIDERS, unless they have blood of Iranians on their hands.  And this list includes Khamenei, Rafsanjani, Ahmadinejad, and Rajavi.  Mousavi is innocent and was never a participant in any of these crimes, although he was silent about them.  As far as "Reza soosool", I don't  think he is qualified to be a leader for Iran, but at least he is innocent (unlike the murderer in your avatar), so I don't ridicule him and neither should any fair Iranian. As far as Iranians abroad being qualified to lead, there are many, but you fail to realize this is not about one leader.  The Iranian people are finally moving beyond that- the leadership is distributed and decentralized. Of course you cannot understand, as you are from an older, bankrupt ideologic generation who still believes in following one man.  Well no one man anywhere anytime was ever worth following, Ideas are what matter.  Men die, ideas don't (although your president would love certain ideas to die but cannot get them to).

Iranians are a great nation.  We are bigger than your military dictator thinks- he calls us "dirt and dust".  We are brave, stand up for ourselves when necessary with nothing in our hands, and have shown it.  As long as there are people whose intention is Iranian, this movement will continue and you cannot suppress u.  Whether you/he like it or not, we "dirt and dust" will prevail over you in the end, just as we have over others for thousands of years.   Do not underestimate us Iranians.  Or as you call us, "outsiders"

Cuba's "elections" get higher turnout than IRI's

Fair,

First of all, people didn't go to polling stations because they had nothing to lose. You can't be serious with statements like this. If they didn't care about the election and the candidates, then why should they care about the results? Sorry , but it doesn't add up.

People genuinely supported their candidate from both sides which makes a strong case for the legitimacy of the selection or election ( Whatever you call it ).

You may call it illegitimate for another 30 years and refrain from voting as long as you wish. You are already an outsider, get use to it.  ;)

But seriously, who do you think is qualified from the incompetent diasporans to lead Iran in a new direction? Reza soosool? Rajavi? who?

I have never advocated violence against anyone who has not picked up an arm to prove his point. This includes Bahais, political prisoners and human right activists. Infact, i support a president who has made the name of every political prisoner publicly known and published in the media. Not like those who executed them in thousands without any media coverages and didn't even allow a name over their graves.

Unlike you, we have a plan and a solution for Iran. And this solution requires a step by step approach. We don't sit on our asses and dream about a parliamentary government or a monarch riding a white horse or a angel that drops down from the sky to rescue Iran.

Or perhaps i am wrong and you do have a plan and solution.

lets hear it.

No Fear

If %85 of the eligible voters are going to polls in Iran, then the "
selection " or "election" has enough legitimacy among Iranians who vote
in this manner. 

Not at all, many people may vote while still not believing in the legitimacy of the vote, because like all decent people around the world are trying to do the best they can with what they have, and feel they have nothing to lose by doing so.  The results of this of course are by now overwhelmingly clear, such that the majority of the alleged 85% who took part want their stolen vote back. They have said so with their blood on the streets of Iran, and that blood is dripping off of the hands of the murderer in your  avatar.

I for one will never vote in an election where a few illiterate mullahs get to determine my choices, this election is not legitimate.  It is preselection by unqualified, undeserving, and unrepresentative people of candidates to be imposed on the "electorate".  And me having this stance disqualifies me from nothing, no matter what you say. You are not the one who determines qualifications of any Iranian to contribute to their country.

The very fact that these people have left Iran due to any hardship, disqualifies them instantly.

It is this very statement that disqualifies YOU instantly.  Do you have any idea or clue about the "hardships" you are talking about?  Let me give you a hint starting from your own presumptuous statement:

I can be here as a student, businessmen, a member of the embassey, and so many legitimate reasons without being a hypocrite.

And the other side can also be here as a Bahai, a human rights activist who was raped, a journalist whose family was threatened, a student who was imprisoned and tortured and got his head shoved in a toilet.  And yes, they can be that without being a hypocrite.

But you my friend, have nothing to show.

You are hardly anyone to talk, as is the criminal dictator in your avatar waving his finger.

so much for being informed

The USAF could also handily defeat the PLAAF and RFAF. Does that mean they should be dismissed or ignored?

The USAF would defeat the PLAAF or RFAF, but certainly not handily, and it would have a hard time in many areas.

Here we are talking about a plane which is no problem for much lesser air forces, like the Pakistani or Kuwaiti or Bahraini or Turkish AF.  The Saegheh has only been shown to fire unguided rockets in an air to ground role with NO air to air capability, which is operational procedure of WWII and maybe the 1950's, and you expect anyone to even pay attention to it let alone even consider it as a threat in 2010.  

You are the one who should get informed, and are full of it as usual, trying to pass yourself on as somehting you aren't.  You wouldn't stand a chance in any real military in the world but you give yourself an officer's rank, probably from the same place that your head is stuck in.

"Sargord"

Get yourself informed.

In view of your well-established history of serving as a propagandist for the IRI on this and other websites (under a number of different names, of course), you are an eminently unreliable source of information. If there were ever a major military conflict between the U.S. and IRI (and let's hope that the IRI's behavior does not push events in that direction), all of the IRI's area denial/anti-access "doctrines" and "concepts" would in relatively short order be dealt with by the U.S. Now, I understand that retarded IRI-worshipping adolescents have a right to some cheap entertainment and the IRI's military "marvels" fill that void, but as long as you have no illusions about what the IRI could achieve against the U.S., then please continue performing your military "analysis" shtick--while living in the Great Satan, naturally enough. Regards. 

amir

You asked, I replied.

The USAF could also handily defeat the PLAAF and RFAF. Does that mean they should be dismissed or ignored?

I take it by your flippant comment you're not familiar with the concept of area denial/anti-access.

Get yourself informed.

"Sargord",

Oh yeah, I can see the Saeqeh performing very well against the United States Air Force, if there is ever a conflict between the U.S. and IRI. Sure. It's very important that the Saeqeh's pilots kiss the Holy Quran before their mission, because it may the last chance they would ever get before ascending to Paradise.

Thanks for the update. Cheers  :-) 

The latest on the Saeqeh is

The latest on the Saeqeh is the operational squadron participated in recent ground attack exercises.

Aside from operating as demonstration aircraft, the type is designated for strike missions in time of war.

Ari well put

There is a lot of wisdom hidden in your comment.I can write books:)

Laleh, sharing a subtlety

The X-15-1 depicted in this blog had no guns. The game has no "opponent" to score against. The player's challenge is to push the craft to its operational limit ie. out of the Earth's atmosphere at 5 times the speed of sound and land it safely.

You have identified "Pong" correctly as a win-lose game. But the X-15-1 game is about human ingenuity finding solutions to extreme challenges. Of course the challenge is small compared to what we face in Iran today. In this regard the graphics underestimate our task.

I anticipate that in future blogs we will re-engage further on this topic.

بازی برندگان و بازندگان

بازی سیاست ایران تغییر نکرده و فقط افزار به نرم افزار مبدل شده. در داخل یا خارج از کشور، مثل همیشه هنوز هم بازی برندگان و بازندگان است.

Dear Lord jan

Please cancel my membership ASAP and let me join Other more recreational and thought-provoking sites... You know :)

PS. Please make arrangements  for wiring all my remaining paychecks to IC account.

"Iran wont move forward"

so recites the bone head islamist, his paymaster's wishful thinking...

His paymaster has obviously failed to learn the first lesson of history:

Dictators ultimately get dispatched to the dustbin of history and will be replaced by liberty and secularism. 

Interesting

Nicely done.

It was the same mentality to develop what we have today. The same mentality that will loop in to another hole if people follow. Time and generation have changed .

Iran wont move forward...

...until the old generation of exiles and the regime elements fade away or be marginalized.

Dear Doctor X (From Lord)

If you were a member of IRI cyber groupies and did get paid per (comment X user name X avatar), then what would you do?

Lord

Yes, I agree that our

Yes, I agree that our isolation from day to day life in Iran makes us to be distant from realities and the substances which play vital roles in social and political aspects inside of Iran. I can see it too, whenever I visit Iran; and sometimes feel the clear differences in political preoccupations or languages of people inside and outside of Iran. The dilemma is that, I think- we have more opportunities here for `contemporary thinking` as well as luxury of freedom; but really haven`t much up-to-date substances for using it. That, as you put yourself, makes diaspora to be engaged with unrealistic political agendas as we see it at times here in IC.

It may have nothing to do with being technology-savvy or being youth; unless the likelihood that diaspora youth may be more politically and socially connected to youth in Iran.

No Fear,

Why is an Iran loving, democracy advocate, brave Iranian who is willing to die for Iran , someone like you, is living abroad while telling others "lengesh kon" ?

Why is a guy who is sitting, just like everyone else on this website (myself included), typing away on a computer keyboard putting words in my mouth? Have I ever said I would be willing to "die for Iran"? You are either a liar, delusional or both--in which case you would simply be called an Islamist. But, why are you living abroad? It seems to me natural and proper for someone opposed to Islamist filth to live abroad, but for a Groupie of an anti-Western terrorist regime to live in the West seems rather rich, don't you think? Now, go right this minute and "lengesh kon", dadash   :-)

I can be here as a student, businessmen, a member of the embassey, and so many legitimate reasons without being a hypocrite.  

Nope. You can be a so-called "student" or "businessman" in IRI, Syria or North Korea--so you do not belong in the West. Islamists in the West are up to no good (reference: Sept 11, London bombings, Madrid bombings, numerous IRI assassinations--a brief list of Islamist terrorist attacks). They are opportunistic infections in free societies. Employees of IRI embassies are terrorist lowlifes of the first order, and they have a history of acting accordingly. 

As always, cheers and regards  :-) 

Good question persian westender

AO

Amen to that Brother:)

One more thing

I have no doubt that the younger generation inside Iran lead the course of action in any case.

Good thought and good graphics dear Ari! 

Which one?

Being outdated or being Diaspora is the subject matter? i mean generation gap can be separated from political correctness can be separated from being diaspora. 

Doctor X Jaan

The funniest thing is that they ARE the diaspora themselves.  "Sargord" is not even an Iranian. :-))

BTW, Sargord, you have yet to respond to the questions posed to you on my blog.  Is seems as if you vanished in the air after we asked you a couple of simple questions.  The questions still stand.  here's the link.  We  will be looking forward to your response. 

 //iranian.com/main/blog/anonymous-observer/iri-supporters-self-contradicting-arguments

Dear Lord

Why is it that these "vatan parast" bunch who are perpetually disparaging and criticizing the Disapora, have nothing to offer but empty words and it just keeps getting worse by the day...

Lord, Have mercy upon them.

Speaking of diaspora youth,

Speaking of diaspora youth, I'll never forget when a sample of them began demonstrating on an LA street corner right after the June 2009 election. It wasn't long before a bunch of old fart exiles crashed their scene, waving their archaic lion-puss flags. The diaspora youth, who were Green supporters, politely asked them to leave, but the old farts refused. Those old farts made everyone look bad, and images of them and their lion-puss flags were broadcast on Iran Tv, making all of the greens look like clownish idiots.

Yeah, wave that lion-puss flag high and wide, then later go home and play that game of pong, like it was before 1979.

Amir,

Why is an Iran loving, democracy advocate, brave Iranian who is willing to die for Iran , someone like you, is living abroad while telling others "lengesh kon" ?

I can be here as a student, businessmen, a member of the embassey, and so many legitimate reasons without being a hypocrite.

But you my friend, have nothing to show.