Sanity in exile!

Iranian man: I hope Iran's next president is a reasonable woman

I am an Iranian man. I would say I feel 50 percent happy 50 percent unhappy about iranian women's advance-I feel at least a small part of their success is politically motivated and most of it is due to their hard work and motivation. I congratulate our fine sister's on their advance in the world stage from the bottom of my heart and I wish for more for them. I believe in Ted Turner's saying that women make the best managers-period. I truly hope and pray that our next president be a woman and I truly believe that she can take us iranians out of the international political rut that we are stuck in thanks to our wonderful!:) current leaders.

An iranian man's point of view.

Of course we congrats the

Of course we congrats the Iranian women for their achivements. But, let's face it, it is the west who is womenizing the women and labeling the middle eastern men as terrorists!!

Drunken minds

Tugger is 100% right. What Twista minds we have. We must say something about everything and say it like we are the President of Iranian Think Thank club, read nightclub!

What are you talking about?

How can you say Iranian men have not been acknowledged? That's what the tazer was for. How much more acknowledged can you get?

Dear Boroumand

We are all Iranians and as such if a man is percieved as a terrorist, so is his countrywoman. If a female wins an award, so does her countryman.

To say the west has not been fair in acknowledging the contributions of Iranian men is to say you have been sleeping for the past few centuries.

Sistah, you awfully sound like a Strom Thurman Democrat.

Just wanted to say you awfully sound like a Strom Thurman Democrat. Be proud of it and your point of view and next time you apply for a job or hire someone make sure to let 'em know that you are a Strom Thurman liberal. Congrats on that.

But remember this saying:

That behind every successful WOMAN there is a MAN.

Sister cool off!

To Witness:
Otherwise you are gonna get the
"WAR" nobel prize!

So all Muslim men are "sub human"!
what about Muslim women? Are they swan too?
or just none muslim women?
In Other words is problemwith Islam or
gender or a combination?!

Do you consider yourself an example of
"Grace under fire"?! YOu sound to me rather
like someone with: "Fire under Butt"!! :-)

swans versus hyenas

One definition of courage is grace under fire:
Iranian women have shown more than enough of this
to deserve not just one, but many Nobel Prizes.

Iranian women have the beauty of swans and the courage of lions.

It is the vile "islamic" "men" who are the chicken-
hyenas,- subhuman violent, irrational, cowardly
bullies, talented only at abusing and murdering
children and women, and at oppressing and exploiting
the poor, the weak and the disadvantaged. They are
rightly despised and hated by all civilized humanity. The "prize" these animals deserve is to
be hanged from the nearest tree.

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Before this so called

Before this so called revolution my grandmother was a magestrate and my mother was the director of nursing for the largest hospital in Tehran. All of the men in my family rested on there laurels and had unearned titles. My grandmother always said the only reason that men in the middle east veiled there women was because they were petrified of them. The're all a bunch of bacheh nanehs. Poor things as soon as there balls drop they too will be gifted with noble laureates, but until then all we can do is listen to them whine about how every woman's a whore and how there gheimeh sucks.

No direct connections between the two

Dear M. Borumand,

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The great majority of Middle—Eastern fundamentalists who blow themselves and other people/things up are males. So, It is understandable (without being acceptable) why Iranian men (put maliciously in the same bag as these "terrorists") are targeted by the Western racists. Iranian women being generally dominated by the men in our society (as were women in the 19th century Western societies), they have the advantage of being PERCEIVED as not a threat to the Western societies.

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So, it is important to realise that the Iranian women’s situation in the West is not created "at the expense of the Iranian men," as you put it. Their situation is simply different than Iranian men for the above reason.

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You acknowledge that "those [women] who were awarded such honors and recognitions deserved it", but at the same time you assert that Iranian women have been "rewarded by western societies at the expense of the Iranian men." The phrase "at the expense of" conveys the idea of detriment to men caused by the celebration of women’s achievement; while it doesn’t really seem to be any direct connection between the two.

How about male/female figures from other countries?

Mr. Brumand,

Thanks for your reply. I sort of understand your point, however, what I fail to understand is why you pick on Iranian men! Why can't you say, couple of German male scientists won nobel physics, chemistry, etc. prizes, and no German female figure name has been mentioned in anything, therefore, there is a conspericy to keep German women down!

Regradless, I also know of a few Iranian male figures high up in successful companies or universities and I am proud of their achievements.

ba sepas,

Mehdi, I don't believe you

Mehdi, I don't believe you .... you're just trying to get us riled up!
It aint gonna work buddy!

Amazing Iranian men

Name them
by IraniValiAzad (not verified) on Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:54 PM PDT

Mr. Borumand,

"Please provide names of those Iranian "men" whom you think deserve recognition from "west" as in perhpas Nobel prize, but have been overlooked."

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Hamid Dabashi of Columbia is one amazing Iranian.His books and his articles are amazing.

So are the many Iranian men who are holding higher positions in american companies.

please remind me who was Queen

   again? Who is the King then? Is Queen above the King ova there?! Is Britain a Monarchy or democracy or just a HYPOCRACY?! ;-)

     Most of all WHO CARES! I think Queen should stop the whole enchilada. It's just wrong century! She should be treated as a foot note to one of shakespeare plays! Don't you think?!

  I prefer spice girls! I guess now my chances of winning a lottery is far better than becoming a KNIGHT! :-(

politically motivated.

Capable Iranian women deserve all the rewards they can get. But the recent event have all been politically motivated. Iranian women are worthy not because they are recognized by the west but because of who they are. Iranian women have always been in the forefront of all the Iranian struggles. We should not be manipulated by the west political agenda. And for heaven sake don't put so much weight on the status of Amanpour, she talks a good talk but she is not an honest reporter and has recently been a tool of the western political power like all the others in her disgraced profession.

Sneaky "Zaeefeh-ha!"

I say Iraninan men are getting soft. What happened to the days when a woman's place was in the kitchen? I want those days back! It pisses me off to no end seeing women anywhere else other than in the kitchen! What happened to our "aberoo" and our "namoos?" You can be proud but I am ashamed! I say in with the "chadors" and out with this nonsense of equal rights! I say if "Fatemeh Zahra" did not go to space, nor should any other woman! Damn, I am mad!

Please keep talking about

Please keep talking about this while me and my sisters advance in society and blow you all away :)

It would have been nice if our men were behind us and enjoying it instead of questioning our competence. After all, when men won awards we didn't say "not sure what kiarostami has done for cinema these days".

Ebadi hasn't taken advantage of her position. But a pannel some where found her worthy of the award.

Now that we are at it:

Not sure what Ms Ebadi had done for world peace (before nomination that is) on a global scale. She definitely is a champion of civil rights in Iran. But as JJ mentioned so is Ganji! Now I am not about to advocate one or another or anoyone else for that matter "I report you decide"!

As much as civil rights awards by Ganji does not hold a candle to Nobel peace prize perhaps same can be told of the best actor or supporting actor compare to rest of Oscar categories. After jahanshah has to scratch his head to remember that other half Iranian guy!

Ok. JJ has a point. But lets say statistically so much nomination and recognition at the down of this new millennium compare to almost vacuum of the past two is bound to raise some eye brows!

Haalaa kojaasho deedee!

Iranian men have received plenty of (positive) recognition. Have you forgotten Kiarostami and all the other filmmakers at international festivals every year? How many human rights awards has Akbar Ganji received? I've lost count. Before Aghdashloo was nominated for an Oscar, Darius Khonji was nominated Best Cinematographer (Evita, 1996). And before Amanpour, at least one male of Iranian descent has been knighighted by Queen Elizabeth (I believe he's a businessman; can't remember his name). I think women are receiving awards more than ever simply because they are participating in society more than ever before. Haalaa kojaasho deedee!

Iranian Women soar due to Anti-Iran/Anti-Moslem position

With all due respect to Iranian women, I believe they have soared because of their consistent anti-Iran/anti-Moslem position that they hold in the last 10 - 15 years most noticeably. There are a number of very prominent european anti-moslem organizations esp. in northern europe that were founded and headed by iranian women esp. since the increase in islamophobia/xenophobia in Europe. Iranian men-even non moslem iranian men have suffered because we have preached a tolerant point of view towards iran and towards moslems in general. One prominent example in my mind is Omid Djalili (he isn't moslem by the way) has always tried to promote a tolerant view towards iran and moslems thru his comedy. He has always tried to promote tolerance and acceptance of others imho. But look he hasn't gotten anywhere in his career.

hasud hasud hargez nayaasud.

hasud hasud hargez nayaasud. be proud of your sisters and flaunt it. men have been awarded enough, what's wrong with a few prizes consecutively going to women that have to work twice as hard?? HASUD HASUD HARGEZ NAYAAAAASUD

A terrorist in space! ;-)

  To IraniValiAzad:

Even though I could name some names I rather not flatter them in a public venue! I leave that to other informed readers of this site. I may also add that with the exception of the "Miss world" runner up I don't see why my fellow Iranian men could not have won any of the other acknowledgments!! After all few of us knew Ms Ebadi before she was chosen for Nobel prize! But lets think for a moment. Imagine an Iranian guy was about to board a space shuttle! FOX news would go ballistic before he would! "A terrorist at the helm of the space shuttle", headlines would read! That could have been considered a present and clear danger to security of "some" country in Middle east! What if he hijacks the spaceship, land on the moon and scream "Allah Akbar"?! and all kind of other utter nonsense! I am sure you can fill the rest. I also mentioned that west has been depriving Iranian men from opportunities that may evolve to high accomplishments and in some cases creates obstacles for them.

best... 

and where's Ray Liotta from Mashad then ?

shenidam raftesh Emrika. is that true ?

If you read the book: Life

If you read the book: Life as it happens,
Then you get the answer. Please look it up.
There is a story titled John Wayne of Tabriz in there and relevant to the current affairs. That story itself will deserve a prize.

To IraniValiAzad

You are so wrong when you said "certainly doubt an Iranian man, regardless of his wealth, throw away 20 million USD, to be called first Iranian space tourist"
When it comes to cheshm-o-hamcheshmi you can be sure iranians are number one, the next iranian probably throw in 22 millions just to show off that he/she has
more money to spend and will keep brag about it.

Name them

Mr. Borumand,

Please provide names of those Iranian "men" whom you think deserve recognition from "west" as in perhpas Nobel prize, but have been overlooked. Also, it would be much appreciated if you mentioned why these men deserve reconginition (i.e. their contribution to "world").

by the way, I certainly doubt an Iranian man, regardless of his wealth, throw away 20 million USD, to be called first Iranian space tourist.