Hope of Solidarity Among Iranians in Diaspora:
Table of Content:
Page 1: Cover Letter
Page 2: Synopsis
Page 3: Introduction
Page 4: Body and Argument
Page 5: Conclusion
Page 6: Credit
Page One - Cover Letter:
The subject matter is to discuss any feasible chance of solidarity among the so called resistance and self proclaimed groups living at comfort of their dwellings outside the hellish life in Iran.
Page Two - Synopsis
No Chance of such solidarity.
Page Three - Introduction:
HELL NO.
Page Four - Body and Argument:
Chance of snow ball in hell that this bunch of know it all can ever get it together. Particularly when such a miserable self proclaimed good for nothing, close to morbidly obese protector of Kian named Reza Pahlavi has decided to take front stage. Specially when entourage-ed by such characters with the log on names of Free, Irandudee, IranOnly - -ony to name a few- and any and all combinations there after
Page Five - Conclusion:
With such ridicules track records, from every single voice who only deems to hear themselves and no other…… I have one advice for you:
Go Fuck Yourselves if you think you are the ONE who is going to lead this revolution.
Page Six - Credits:
Jon Stewart for registering the phrase [Go Fuck Yourselves]
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More on causes of "Narcissistic Rage" disorder
by jamshid on Wed Apr 28, 2010 03:02 PM PDTAccording to Kohut, narcissistic rages (such as Ahyab's) are a result of the shame at being faced with failure (eg, IRI's and later reformists' failure.)
Narcissistic injury is a threat to a narcissist’s self-esteem or worth (eg, Reza Pahlavi, Ahyab's favorite target and whom he considers the greatest threat.)
Narcissistic rage is the uncontrollable and unexpected anger that results from a narcissistic injury (eg, Ahyab's constant attacks on a handful of people)
Rage comes in many forms, but all pertain to the same important thing: revenge.
Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone (such as the long gone monarchy). To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them (eg, RP); to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment.
During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. It is believed that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger towards someone else (eg, oppostion groups), and the second layer being a self-aimed wrath (failure of both IRI and reformists.)
I hope you find this material helpful, Ahyab.
Timarestan...
by Was Rosie on Thu Apr 29, 2010 02:55 AM PDTpersonality disorders...
hmmm....here at i.c. we probably all have at least three, one pretty much fulll-blown, why else would we be sitting here typing in this nuthouse? Need I elaborate mine?
Masochistic personality, obsessive-compulsive, dependent personality disorder...
anyone care to add on?
ah...oh yes....and paranoia...
of course I'm the only one here with that one, thank god.
Translation
by jamshid on Wed Apr 28, 2010 02:47 PM PDTFolks like Ahyab don't give it to you straight. These closet characters need to be translated. He writes:
"Hope of Solidarity Among Iranians in Diaspora..."
Translation:
"Fears of Solidarity Among regime supporters in Diaspora..."
And he goes on writing a bunch of non-sense in order to contribute to an atmosphere of hopelessness among Iranians in Diaspora, as though nobody can see trough his real intentions.
Ahyab, I am not a psychologist, but I think you need professional help since you might be suffering from the "Narcissistic Rage" disorder. From Wikipedia:
When the narcissist's grandiose sense of self-worth is perceivably being attacked by another person (typically in the form of criticism), the narcissist's natural reaction is to rage and to pull down the self-worth of others (to make the narcissist feel superior to them). It is an attempt by the narcissist to soothe their internal pain and hostility, while at the same time rebuilding their own self-worth.
Is this why you keep attacking and degrading all walks of opposition by pulling down on their values and hopes? Does it soothe your internal pains and hostilities? Does it at the same time rebuild your own lost self-worthiness?
Q defending 1988 executions happened on a blog of DK
by Anahid Hojjati on Wed Apr 28, 2010 05:32 PM PDTQ defending 1988 executions happened on a blog of DK. Link is:
//iranian.com/main/blog/darius-kadivar/royalty-yasmine-pahlavi-princess-love
Take a look at Q's comments on that blog of DK. See his position on 1988 executions. Here is an excerpt:
"...
The reason giving up Khuzestan was not acceptable is because your sense of justice. This sense of justice says it's OK to do something resulting in many deaths for a good cause. This is the same story with the French revolution where many lives were lost but the peopel feel the result was worth it. In fact almost every revolution, and numerous other historical situations that I desceibed in detail, has this same calculus. Many peopel in Iran, feel the same way about the 1988 executions..."
capt_ayhab Judging from People's Reaction to Your Blogs ...
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Apr 28, 2010 02:45 PM PDTYou are the Only one who thinks he ( or given your ANONYMITY is it a She ?) is an Adult ...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c
Oh and Honey ... You were supposed to Stop Calling me Jan ...
Bisous !
What ever you say DK jan
by capt_ayhab on Wed Apr 28, 2010 02:26 PM PDTIf coming up with those childish remarks makes you feel good about yourself who am I to want to stop you?
Ciao till tomorrow, some of have to work you know.
Rosie Jan:
There is absolutely no grudge, not at least on my part because I could not care less about what DK has to say. The value of his comments are self explanatory.
Have yourself wonderful evening, I have got to run to spoil some young minds.
-YT
Hi, Ayhab, thanks..
by Was Rosie on Wed Apr 28, 2010 02:21 PM PDTYou're absolutely right. That's exactly what happened. There was a moment of unity and now it's gone to the dogs again. and so what's next? And certainly tir baraans by pixel on anyone's part aren't the answer (not YOU, anyone's...)
But Ayhab, if, as you say, you just got a 'swift kick in the ROYAL rear-end'...hey...
that's the cost of progress, right?
kisses,
r.
capt_ayhab If You Get a Kick out Of ... Masochism ... ;0)
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Apr 28, 2010 02:08 PM PDTThen indeed Why Should I stop you ? ...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QY1T-2f_KM
LOL
It's Your Fundemental Right To want to Suffer and endure pain After all ...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fMNB5WsP9E
Personally I prefer relaxing in my bathtub Listening to Sinatra with a glass of Champagne ...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AcgpOFeKH8&feature=related
Sweet Dreams !
Please read this and the accompanying thread
by Was Rosie on Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:57 AM PDT//iranian.com/main/2010/apr/rules-moderation-civility
Please note also the subtitle the publisher chose was 'avoiding a permanent grudge match'. Please note what took place on the thread which was like a Permanent Grudge Match ballet. Any one of my friends who insults another of my friends is personally insulting me. The point of PermGrudgeMatch is that it's impossible to tell 'who started it'. The idea is move on.
Not to say that everything here is about 'personal grudge match', no, of course not. But with the Cap'n and DK there are elements of that. And those two dancers on that thread....well...
As for the specific strategies you've been using Ayhab, just try to remember that if they don't jibe with the Supremes, they probably upset a lot of people a lot more. So please try to avoid them.
Shaban, would you mind taking out the profanity as a personal favor to me? And also, Shaban, it's against the new policy. Poo poo words are allowed in the submissions, as long as not directed to or about an individual, but not spelled out in titles and not in comments.
_______________________
Finally please note at the bottom the publisher's stated hopes on the blog I just linked that the community arrive at policies collectively, as we used to at the beginning, and as was his vision. But we don't always make life very easy for him, do we?
It is already done DK too late
by capt_ayhab on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:51 PM PDTand you are welcome ;-)
-YT
P/S I am gonna go check out other blogs.
Rosie
by capt_ayhab on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:48 PM PDTHere is all I am saying and I will say this louder and clearer every day till my last hours.
We all need a swift kick in the rear and perhaps that way we might wake up and see the gravity of the situation in Iran.
After June election, there was such a strong feeling of unity in the air, from LA to NYC to Paris and all 4 corners of the world. Same was here, every one for that small moment in time were one voice and one power.
But memories faded as soon as news media stopped round the clock coverage of bloody and mangled bodies of demonstrators, so was faded our moment of solidarity.
Without FIRST achieving solidarity, rest are trivial. We have all gone back at each others throat, taking side and padding each other in the back for coming up with worst sort of name for each other.
Even treat of war on our nation does not seem to unify us to at least prevent the catastrophe.
This blog was at least a swift kick on my own Royal rear-end and that shall be my concentration going foreword along with all I can do to keep the threat of military strike on Iran in forefront.
-YT
capt_ayhab The Last Person I would ask to Defend me is YOU !
by Darius Kadivar on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:44 PM PDTAll the More that if I were on a Sinking Ship (which I am Not) like Yours I would trust a Captain who knows how to swim ... Let alone Navigate ...
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=saalGKY7ifU
On Your Wrecked Ship Even the Sailor would know better when to Stop Boasting Like a Parrot that Everything is under Control !
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO1T7b07I7E
I OWE YOU NOTHING !
Wait.
by Was Rosie on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:39 PM PDTNo, I just read more. We're MOVING on. But we haven't moved on yet. I want to post an important link here. Please don't click on reply, so I can edit this.
thx
r
Ayhab, Anahid, COP PS
by Was Rosie on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:36 PM PDTFirst of all, let's not judge COP. There's an ongoing situation here, it's complicated for everybody. BUT, COP.
could you please as a display of good faith remove the curse about Q?
Anyway, I didn't start this discussion. Shazde started it with his modertion blog last week, and his subsequent symbolic deletion of all his blogs and their replacement with three potty poo poo blogs. This was in response to his perception of having received an inadequate response from the publisher about fair moderation practices. My observation was that Shazde's tone had been too harsh but that the issue needs to be explored. Although the unfairness is not intentional, and especially not ideologically motivated.
Q started it with his blog on Flagging. Souri started it with bringing up capricious or unfair flags by the USERS on the most discussed threads. And so on.
Well I guess Anahid's right. This is as good a place as any. Sooooo...Ayhab, my pet, here we have three lovely ladies at the beginning of the blog. Monda, Yolanda, and Azarin, all saying basically the same thing. So something's gotta be up...I mean...how could they all be wrong? Everybody likes them. They're like...the Supremes...lol C'mon Ayhab, take a look up the bottom of the thread. You'd have to blind not to see it.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQVWR874yjo
So, Cap'n, where do we go from here?
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Okay, okay! PS Ayhab, I just saw...Scratch that question! We've already moved on...
Ms. Hojatti
by capt_ayhab on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:22 PM PDTFirstly I am not aware of that point in respect to his defense of 1988 chain killings.
BUT
Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong, would you not say so?
Let me tell an stroy, Hamin DK, I have in many occasions defended him to the point of my self getting attacked, but he was the first person in here to go around with his childish name calling.
Let us practice what we preach. My record is clear, I have defended most of my own worst critique and I am on the record for that.
-YT
OnlyIran
by Shaban Jafari on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:20 PM PDTI actually said to Hamseda the same thing than your first comment, and Ayhab like a coward didn't respond directly to me either. This bozmajeh has the nerve to tell that he doesn't engage you because you had, in his sense, a childish reaction!
Oh! Ayhab has suddenly become a purist!!
He didn't answer you as he didn't answer me, because he hasn't any rational response to give!
Ayhab has some personality disorder disease as he doesn't know why he says opposite things. What he also doesn't know is that his disease can actually be treated by some sedatives.
On the hind side Ms. Hojjati
by capt_ayhab on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:16 PM PDT[Dear Rosie, I do not see why it is my job to provide all solutions. I do not even participate heavily in others' comment threads. I am hoping that other more experienced IC friends can also come up with some suggestions. ]
FINALLY seems like we are getting the point of the matter.
You are absolutely correct, it is no one SINGLE persons ability to come up with a solution which must be SOLVED collectively. Solution must only be achieved by FIRST uniting under one motto and under one supreme goal, and SECOND working toward feasible and final solution to the collective problem.
This will never happen while all we do here day in and day night is to jump at each others throat for smallest of disagreements.
Just take a note of our Cost of progress and the amount of vulgarity he demonstrated because of his hatred of someone[Q] who he has no idea of who he is.
-YT
P/S #1 Mr. Javid has featured this blog, and #2 any form of language is allowed in the body of the blog, but not on the comments.
Captain, I did not defend Q because he defended 1988 executions
by Anahid Hojjati on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:05 PM PDTEven though it is not for sure but there is a chance that few days ago, I was harassed online by Q. Another reason is that in one blog couple months ago, he defended execution of people who had committed no violence in 1988. So do not be surprised if I don't come to Q's defense.
childish name calling captain?
by Onlyiran on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:08 PM PDThere, I make it short for you:
since you mentioned me as a supporter of Reza Pahlavi and monarchy in your blog, please show me, and other readers of your blog, when, if ever, I have supported RP or monarchy?
If you can't or don't, then I will expect that you will put your money where your mouth is, apologize and redacts your blog. Come on, show us that you're not a hypocrite and stand up for principles that you pretend to advocate.
Onlyiran
by capt_ayhab on Wed Apr 28, 2010 01:00 PM PDTAs I have said many times, I do not see it constructive and useful spending of my time to engage with people who have nothing to add to the subject matter except to come out and slander people with their childish name calling, while knowing nothing about the person.
So you will excuse me if I do not see any use in reading you long comment.
Thanks for your time nonetheless.
-YT
Ms. Hojjati - destuctive and negative?!
by capt_ayhab on Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:53 PM PDTIt is surprising to see how quick some are in demonstrating their selective call for unity.
Ms. Hojjati, since you have taken upon yourself to condemn destructive and negative comments, I did not see you utter a word when Cost of Progress called Q, who is not even present in this thread a [Pr#$%K]? Due respect to Q.
I say this, so as long as we are selective in our condemnation of vulgar PERSONAL Attacks on people as opposed to harsh criticism of ideologies, we should better take the corrective action on our own side so we won't sound like a hypocrites.
Threads like these have the power of letting people to demonstrate their true selves.
-YT
Rosie jan, you already got the ball rolling
by Anahid Hojjati on Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:23 PM PDTDear Rosie, it seems to me that by virtue of your last blog and participation in this blog, you already got the ball rolling. I understand your concern about how this is being discussed on various blogs; here and there, but at least there is a discussion. By the way, where is JJ? It is night in london and he should come tend to his baby :).
Anahid,
by Was Rosie on Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:09 PM PDTI didn't ask you to 'provide all solutions', much less say it's yours (or anyone's) job to do anything here. Much less 'all' of anything. lol. My basic view or concern here is that 'community' work as 'collective', and that is what I was trying to say in my post on my Vampire thread called 'Dear The Moderator'. :o) The same thing you just implicitly said: "I am hoping that other more experienced IC friends can also come up with some suggestions"
But who will get the ball rolling? And where and how? 'Schpritzing' things willy nilly here and there on whatever threads, where ever the problems 'pop up' really doesn't help much. Not infrequently it just makes things worse by prolonging the agony of the abuse as it becomes a protracted tit for tat. As we can easily see here.
So who will get the ball rolling? So that 'more experienced IC friends can ALSO come up with some suggestions' along with the equally invaluable suggestions of the less experienced. Even input from the least experienced is invaluable. It a seeing the forest for the trees kind of situation.
ps Sorry for the unusual formatting of this post. Couldn't change it but actually I kinda like it.
Captain - Here's Why You're a Hypocrite and a Liar
by Onlyiran on Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:43 PM PDTIt seems as if the deceptive subject of this rather inartfully written blog is to complain about lack of unity among Iranian opposition. You want to portray yourself as someone who is dismayed by this lack of unity. You, again, complain about Reza Phalavi. And that is because we know that despite the best efforts of Ehya people like you 31 years ago, you were not able to "finish the Pahlavi family off" like your role models did with the Czar family back in 1917. You just couldn't finish the job and you're still bitter about "some of them Pahlavi vermin getting away". Be that as it may, if you had the smallest interest in unity of opposition, then instead of writing blog after blog making fun of Reza Pahlavi's weight (and at the same time ignoring IRI's crimes) you would say this: well, I don't like RP, but given the brutality of the IRI, the opposition can use all the help that it can get. So, let's set up a unified council of some sort where ALL opposition groups, including Reza Pahlavi, can have equal representation, and make that a unified front against the IRI. We can then educate the public about the goals of this umbrella group and rally them behind us. if and when we are successful in helping the people of Iran replace the IRI through an indigenous movement, they can decided who they want as their leader. But instead, all you do on this site is bad mouth Reza Pahlavi for sport. I personally don't care, but don't tell us that you're sad because there is no unity among the opposition.
Next, you shed crocodile tears and write blogs about civility. But it only takes reading a couple of your blogs and comments to see that you're the instigator in chief when it comes to lack of civility on this site. Take a look at this blog for example. You accuse me and others, by name, of encouraging Reza Pahlavi. I don't know about the other names mentioned, but in my case, that is an absolute lie. I have never supported RP, don't like monarchy and have always advocated a secular republic. Now, I don't know why you wrote this drivel, may be you had a bad day, may be you just wanted to pick on someone, but the end result is that misrepresenting my point of view is what prompted me to comment on your blog. Hence: the instigation for an argument, the foundation of which is defending slander. see where this is going? And this is not your first time. You have a habit of instigating fights and arguments on this site. You did so before you got blocked, and you're doing so now that you're back. Who knows, may be you want comments, may be it's just a sport for you...but PLEASE don't lecture anyone about civility. You're the worst offender when it comes to that.
In sum, "Captain", you're a hypocrite and a liar. Now go sell your crocodile tears and your fake "civility" somewhere else.
Dear Rosie, Other IC users should also provide solutions
by Anahid Hojjati on Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:25 AM PDTDear Rosie, one solution is to pay extra attention to people who just make destructive and negative comments on this site and serve no other purpose. For instance, even if I make a negative or two comment about other users, but from other blogs which I have written, one can easily realize my purpose on this site is not to cause havoc.
Dear Rosie, I do not see why it is my job to provide all solutions. I do not even participate heavily in others' comment threads. I am hoping that other more experienced IC friends can also come up with some suggestions.
Anahid,
by Was Rosie on Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:59 AM PDTQ didn't do that. The name wasn't even spelled correctly, if it's the same spelling you gave him. Didn't he answer you and tell you it was some prankster? I thought he did. I'm sure you know how easy it is for people to assume false identites on these 'social' sites (this one included).
Anahid, I would really be more interested in knowing what specific suggestions you have for how the community--publisher, admin, and registrants--could work together as a collective to resolve these issues of harrassment and so on on this website than for you to focus on our colorful Captain'sgrandstanding about who can and cannot go on his blogs. It's so silly...(sorry, Ayhab, but it is. You know you can say that all you like but it's simply not website policy for the blogger to determine who does or doesn't participate on a thread. So it's like spitting into the wind. Why bother?)
Anahid, how about some ideas for solutions to these problems in general?
Ms. Hojjati
by capt_ayhab on Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:58 AM PDTI gave a simple solution, but it seems to me that you are the one who is harassing despite being asked not to participate in my threads and not the other way around.
-YT
P/S of course you are welcome to stay if you wish to stay with the subject. As it seems we already have couple of psychologists here who have registered their services for this blog before you.
cap, I repeat. You are not boss of me,
by Anahid Hojjati on Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:55 AM PDTCaptain, this is public forum. I participate in whatever blog I choose. What do you even mean by your comment to me?
Porfossor
by Cost-of-Progress on Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:45 AM PDTAyhab, your laughable - you tell people to fuck themsleves and then "jaanamaz aab mikeshi".
He's called me names in the past, so what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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IRAN FIRST
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Anahid, all
by Was Rosie on Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:32 AM PDTAnahid, great to see you here!I hope you noticed at the end of my current blog that I mentioned to Shaban that I'd been drafting you a long reply on it. However, the blog got closed. And also featured.
Ayhab, good, I'm glad that's clarified. But people aren't interpreting it the way you intend. They find it personal. A modified tactic must be attempted.
ALL:
I believe if the thread of my blog I just referred to--an 'interesting one' to say the least, and HIGHLY entertaining, is read from the bottom up, it can shed some light on at least a little bit of all the interrelating issues brought up on this thread. If the first part, my questions to Ben, Louie Louie, and Tell It Like It Is, seem abstruse or difficult to follow, they can be glossed over.
Many thanks,
SMV