Persian Realm

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by Shemirani on Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:25 AM PDT

 Mohamad Reza shah wasn't a Dictator, he wasn't a Ceaușescu wasn't a Saddam he wasn't a Hitler !!! not a Benali not a Kaddafi !

So You are using an unappropriate word (as many iranian do) Maybe the Propaganda you are talking about was the enghelabiion dirooz who kept saying this about him.

Far from what i know, Reza Pahlavi said many times there was mistakes and problems ...And the answer is fine  For me (an ordinary iranian like yourself )

I also believe WE ALL ARE RESPONSABLE FOR THIS MISTAKES each of us (all our parents) He did his best to manage a very difficult situation. just by imagining to manage a iranian compagny i can understand how incredibily hard job it can be  ...Che berese be yek keshvar !!

Once Iranian had choosen a republic and we all saw the consequences, and i don't think iranian republic we had all this years was protected of any foreigner influence! so i don't see how you can pretend Republic its safer for our independance !

 my worse fear for my homeland is being like  a tajekestan a venezuela a togo A republic bi mohtava ! and the idea to match with our heritage sounds a better choice to me !

Lets hope we will see a free Iran soon to use our votes (each of us)! thats the most important aim we have now :)

 

 

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by hirre on Sat Mar 19, 2011 08:37 AM PDT

I'm sorry, but you have not answered my questions and this is because RP hasn't answered them in the past... You don't even have to answer, it is RP's duty. You are not even discussing, you are spreading propaganda, taking talks from other contexts and inserting them here. My first question was simple and straightforward: does RP recognize his father as a dictator? The answer should be YES or NO.

"You folks are ready for democracy".... please don't attack and generalize ordinary people. I'm not left or right etc, just an ordinary iranian. The shah also had this attitude were he tought he was above all, it's not healthy... Also don't bring in IRI, my question is not to compare any system as we all know IRI is very bad. You are mixing issues, stop doing that because you are confusing everything with everything else...

Oh and hirre Jaan ;0))

by Darius Kadivar on Sat Mar 19, 2011 07:30 AM PDT

Do Your Homework first and then maybe we can even start to have a serious conversation ...   You Know amongst adults ! ...  
"Premakes" The Empire Strikes Back (1950)       LOL 

On Democracy ... different cultures different outlooks ...

by Darius Kadivar on Sat Mar 19, 2011 07:22 AM PDT

The IRI and the Revolution that brought it to being are filled with so much inner contradictions that it has lost all credibility in the face of history. It will definitively not go down in history as the French Revolution it hoped to emulate:

SOURCES OF FURY:Nader Naderpour on origins of IRI's "Death Slogans" towards US and Israel

particularly in it's violence:

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE: IRI's Reign of Terror Begins (BBC Report 1979)

VIRTUE IN TERROR: Maximilien Robespierre and the Reign of Terror (BBC)

Yet I think We Iranians are actually much closer to the British ( which we tend to hate so much) or even the Spanish both of whom restored their monarchy after a disastrous experience with Republicanism:

 

HISTORY FORUM: How Truly Democratic is The British Monarchy ?

Viva España, Viva El Rey !!

 

Which does not mean that we do not see the benefits of democracy but we know that our identity is too interconnected culturally and psychologically with the Royal Institution and concept of Kingship which has strongly defined our identity and how we collectively see ourselves as a nation. 

 

A Restoration of the 1906 Constitution amended and updated so as to respond to the democratic aspirations which inspired our forefathers can put the country back on the right track again after this disastrous interruption of 30 years which only aimed at cheating the people from DAY ONE:

Khomeini: No Monarchy

pictory: Bakhtiar Denounces Bazargan's Provisionary Government in exile (1979)

Mehdi Bazargan and the controversial legacy of Iran's Islamic intellectual movement

 

Constitutionalism is all about implementing democratic and even Republican concept of statesmanship and self governance by the people but within a Royal Framework. Once people understand this much of the misconceptions linked to the idea of Restoring the Monarchy in Iran will be lifted because the goal is not to restore a dictatorship but a Parliamentary Democracy.

I humbly but Firmly believe that Constitutionalism is the Key to Iran's ills: 

HISTORY FORUM: Nader Naderpour on Iran's Constitutional Revolution and European Rennaissance (1996)

CONSTITUTIONALIST FORUM: Daryoush Homayoun Political and Journalistic life Honored in Germany

 

We have nothing less that the Europeans be it the Swedish or Dutch or British or Spanish to understand the benefits of such a compromise and system of government.

Sweden by the way Tops all other nations in the World in the 2010 democracy Index:

Economist Intelligence Unit's Democracy Index 2010 (PHOTOS)

Yet unlike the Pahlavis who are native Iranian neither their dynasty is genuinely Swedish since their ancestor Bernadotte who founded the dynasty was a French Import:

Charles XIV John of Sweden ( originally a French General by the name of Jean Bernadotte who was born in Pau France)

 

Persian Carpet Gift to Sweden's Crown Princess Victoria and Husband  

 

 

But in addition Ironically he was one of Napoleon's generals and ex revolutionaries who is said to have tatooed on his chest : "Death to the King" which the current Swedish historians claim he actually had "Death to the Tyrant" tatooed in reference to Robespierre's Reign of Terror.

House of Bernadotte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

As for Spain which in my opinion is closer as a country and culture to us given that they too were invaded by the Arabs ( Moors ) and are a hot blooded nation like us :

 

HISTORY FORUM: Franco's Ghost- Spain's Painful Road Towards National Reconciliation

 

With an ambivalent relationship with their own Royal Heritage:

 

THE SUN ALSO RISES: Shah of Iran and Queen Soraya visit Franco's Spain (1957)

 

Well for your information again unlike Our Crown Prince, Juan Carlos was not even born in his country but in ROME, Italy.

 

So you see in the end of the day it's all about flexibility. If we ever hope to achieve democracy we need to learn to compromise and co exist with our strengths and contradictions for the superior interests of the nation at large.

 

More than anything democracy exists and survives due to collective wisdom of it's people and a mutual understanding that a Constitution is first and foremost a contract between the People and the governing body: 

 

HISTORY OF IDEAS: Constitutional Government In Locke's Second Treatise (Yale University) 

 

This remains true whether you live in a Republic :

 

EMPIRE OF THE MIND: The Greeks - Crucible of Civilization narrated by Liam Neeson (PBS-1999)

RESTORATION: Greek Constitutional Monarchy Toppled by Military Coup (April 21st, 1967)

 

 

RESTORATION: King Simeon II of Bulgaria, The Republican Prince

 

or a Monarchy:

Morocco's King Mohammed VI pledges constitutional reform

pictory: Crown Prince of Morroco (Today King Mohammad VI) at Iranian Embassy (1977) 

 

ROYAL FORUM: Explaining the Concept of a Constitutional Monarchy to a Staunch Republican

 

But without a Flexible mind as Nader Naderpour clearly explained in the above link (and which I encourage all to watch again by repeating it below) we will continue to be an uncivilized and stubborn lot with no hope of seeing the emergence of a Persian Rennaissance which could get us out of the Middle Ages:

 

HISTORY FORUM: Nader Naderpour on Iran's Constitutional Revolution and European Rennaissance (1996)

 

As such the best and shortest root to reach a satisfactory solution to our current situation is to respond COLLECTIVELY and regardless of our ideological, philisophical or political preferences to Reza's Call:

 

REZA's CALL: An Iranian Solidarnosc... by DK

 

RESPONDING TO REZA's CALL: An Iranian Solidarnosc in the Making ... by DK 

 

Anything short of that will only be a waste of time and allowing the IRI to gain time to organize it's survival.

 

So it is never late to Join the WINDS OF CHANGE in order to Save Our Country:

 

Farrokhzad sings Padeshah inTribute to Reza Shah Dovom

 

 

If He Understood it:

 

Farrokhzad Harfe Tarikhi.wmv     And paid the ultimate price for it.  
    SARBAZ: Fereidoun Farrokhzad helps child soldiers of Iran Iraq War       Then we have No Excuse not to ! Specifically if we are lucky to live in the Diaspora. 

 

My Humble Opinion,   DK          

 

 

Related Blogs: 

ROYAL CURTSY: Crown Prince Reza Godfather to Belgium's Prince Prince Laurent's Daughter (2004) 

RESTORATION: Belgium King Baudouin takes Oath Amidst Republican Animosity (31st July ,1950)

hirre again ... ;0) Really ? ... ;0)

by Darius Kadivar on Sat Mar 19, 2011 07:20 AM PDT

Partial Answers for what it's worth: 

 

1) 

 

ROYAL ACCOUNTABILITY: Crown Prince Reza Praises Mossadegh's Patriotism (ANDISHEH TV)

  ROYAL ACCOUNTABILITY: Crown Prince Reza on Torture During His Father's Rule         2) 

 

 

 

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE: IRI's Reign of Terror Begins (BBC Report 1979)

 

VIRTUE IN TERROR: Maximilien Robespierre and the Reign of Terror (BBC)

  ******************************* ******************************* ******************************* *******************************       As for Iranians in Sweden clearly you seem to express the views of a minority:
    Persian Carpet Gift to Sweden's Crown Princess Victoria and Husband

  Royalty: Shah of Iran and King of Sweden Stokholm (1960)

  Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi on Radio Sweden ( Persian Service)

  ROYAL FORUM: Iran-born Hanif Bali elected to Swedish Parliament         But maybe one should ask you folks if you can distinguish between a dictator and a tyrant ?
 
 
QUO VADIS ? Nero Sings While Tripoli and Tehran burn 
     
Libya's Exiled Crown Prince calls on world to stop 'massacre,' remove Gaddafi

  Monarchy flag raised at Libyan Embassy in Sweden


    Which makes one wonder if You Folks are even mature for democracy 30 years On ...

RP again...

by hirre on Sat Mar 19, 2011 05:25 AM PDT

The problem they never discuss is:

1. Why RP can talk about democracy when he doesn't simply acknowledge his father as a dictator. It's like a doctor that wants to perform a threatment on cancer but hasn't read any books on the subject. If RP can't distinguish between a dictator (no matter how noble) and a democratically elected parlament (no matter how foolish), then by logic little trust can be gained. "You can not have the cake, and eat it also", as we say in Sweden.

2. Iran must be a republic because foreign powers have always in our history used individuals, such as kings against their own people. There is always a risk that an influental person, such as a king can be persuaded by foreign powers. A republic stands stronger against such a threat in the long terms (that is why IRI is very tough to get rid of compared to e.g. Saddam Hussein). Many people forget this fact... Iran is different than Sweden, a nation that exploits Iran can become very wealthy, this is not the case with Sweden, Spain etc...

Finally imho RP doesn't have any clue about the actual life and duties of e.g. the king in Sweden. If RP would e.g. be the king in Sweden he would more or less have to be in prison... The king in Sweden is strictly forbidden to have any position on any matter regarding politics and other issues. This does not go well with RP's character. Why does a political activist like RP still defend a constitutional monarchy when his character is more political? Why does one want to fight for a democratical platform and then after that consider a symbol of dictatorship?

very interesting !

by Shemirani on Sat Mar 19, 2011 01:51 AM PDT

Bessiar jaleb bood !! Great answers from Reza Pahlavi: Intelligent, clair, concis, Farde bessiar Democrate !

Yeki be in Leader Daneshjoo bege ke agar Iran Suede nist Iran Faranseh haam nist ! The key is to be ready for Democracy (Each of us ) otherwise both system can lead to a non democratic country ...I totally desagree with this FALSE IDEA many iranians have and repeat like parrots: just because its a Republic Its safer or more democratic !! there so many dictatorial republics on earth to make you think deeper ! Une Republique bananière non merci !!!

Ghasseminejad should study more before playing with OUR  future, and a copy paste of what he saw  in France is not the solution,..... we already  experienced  Bisavad daneshjoo in 79 we will not repeat the mistake this time. :) good luck Javan !