Persian Realm

Dear Vildemose

Thank you for your comment to me, it prompts me to think more broadly.  I agree that Romneys position on a number of issues such as women's rights was quite extreme and unacceptable although he has moved more to the center for general elections.

I always think it must be hell for a moderate (if Romney is one) to get the republican party nomination.   

Your comment about the democrats and the Islamists is very interesting.  

Faramarz jaan

We all know very well that US can do many things short of sending in the troops.

Washington Examiner (a conservative news paper) claims that it has obtained an 8 page memo from the Greens to Obama asking for help in 2009 that has gone basically unanswered or answered late by a conversation with some Iranian in Iran (unknown) with Hillary asking "what do you want us to do ?"  The claim of the memo has not been denied by the White House or the State dep.

Also if I remember correctly,  Obama administration was quick to recognize the govenment of Ahmadi nejaad and I assume from the concern that they may have to negotiate with him down the line.  

//washingtonexaminer.com/secret-memo-suggests-white-house-ignored-sos-from-iranian-opposition/article/318891#.UIha2s10ykd 

Faramarz Jan Can't complain to Monaco they have No King ...

Just a Cheap Prince ... too affordable for my tastes ... 

DK Jaan, Please don't blame me!

Please complain about the odds to Nevada gambling commission, or King Albert of Monte Carlo!

And you know What ? Good for them just don't be a hypocrite

Clintons made a $100-million fortune since leaving White House

Obama also has Cayman Island Accounts investing in China

Chelsea Clinton's wedding: $600K in tents, $15K for toilets

Michelle Obama vacation with Spanish Royals: £50,000 a day

U.S. First Lady Michelle Obama and her younger daughter lunched with Spain's King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia today at the royal summer residence on the Balearic island of Majorca.

Mrs Obama, nine-year-old Sasha and their entourage flew into the Majorcan capital of Palma from the glitzy Mediterranean resort of Marbella, where they have been staying since Wednesday at a deluxe hotel.

The lunch is Mrs Obama's last engagement in Spain before flying home to Washington DC, where she has come under fire for her lavish break on the Costa del Sol with 40 friends, which has been estimated at costing U.S. taxpayers £50,000 a day.

I agree with vildemose and faramarz

Especially the bid about the nut job Bolton!

Dear Mehraban: Romney has

Dear Mehraban: Romney has the same foreign policy adivsors as Bush. He might start another debacle (Iraq war) in Iran. He is inexperienced and as disengaged as Bush was. His main concern is to get elected  so he can be the first Mormon President of the US. Mormons treat their wives and women just like the Islamists. His economic policies are the economic policy of the Gilded Age or "roaring 20's" that led to the disatrous crash of the stock market and the soup line and soup kitchens and Hoovervilles across America in in 1929. On social policies, he wants to take America back to the pre-civil right's era where women and blacks could not vote.

Having said that, I do agree that Democrats are of the belief that secular governments in the ME are a threat to them though communism is no longer an issue. Democrats  know how powerfully entrenched these clergies/Islamist are in the Islamic societies and want to keep them on their side; sort of like; keep your friends close but your enemies closer type of approach. If secular groups could mobilize masses at a drop of a hat, they would probably side with them; but as you know, we still have a long way to get there in the ME. Obama is far from being an ideal candidate but a Romney presidency will be much more painful for the American Middle class. He will gut social security, medicaid, pensions and whatever wealth the middleclass has managed to accrue all these years. I cannot in good conscience vote for such an odious character. Have you looked at Romney-Ryan's economics plan? You can read it below:

//www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/18/1146392/-The-Romney-Ryan-Plan-The-classic-shell-game-explained-voodoo-economics

All Oppression Creates a State of War--Simone De Beauvoir

Mehrban, I have thought about it!

What exactly is Obama supposed to do? Send in the Marines!

And what exactly is Romney going to do?

Sanctions are working great today because Obama/Hilary have forged an alliance with the EU that no Republican has been or will be able to do.

Romney went on a trip to London, Poland and Israel last summer and in every stop managed to put his foot in his mouth. Do you think that with people like John Bolton around him he is going to build a coalition against the Regime?

At the end of the day, Romney is a businessman who has sent American jobs overseas and keeps his money in Swiss and Cayman bank accounts. He will not hesitate to cut a deal with the Regime in a second if there is money to be made.

If history can teach us a lesson, look at the tough-talking Reagan sending Ollie North to Tehran with a chocolate cake and the arms deal, or heartless Cheney's Halliburton doing brisk business with the Regime.

Faramarz think about it

What has come of the Arab Spring, Islamist regimes have poped up.  Why are the people that took to Tahrir square are saying that the uprising was stolen from them?  I can't halp but see a pattern here.  

I have to think that Obama is a very subtle supporter of these regimes.

Why was it that the Iranians that took to the streets (with signs in English) were ignored and Obama stayed silent until well into the killings rrests and tortures.  Why did so many of the activists had to flee to Turkey, Greece, etc.  where they had to sew their lips to get attention from countries they were seeking asylm in.

Obama may curb the Nuclear Bomb (the regime in Iran is so underhanded that I even doubt that) in Iran but I can't see any signs that he would support a free secular Iran.  

My Patriotism isn't For Sale to be Cheaply Gambled by Bookies

My Patriotism isn't For Sale ....

to be Cheaply Gambled by an Arab Parast ...

Or a Mormon Parast ...

The best place to see the odds

is fivethirtyeight.com.  Nate Silver is a genius with statistics.  Here's the link:

//fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Bookies Favor Obama!

One of the sure ways to know who will win the election is to look at the odds by the bookies. After all, we are talking real money here!

Ladbroker, a prominent London gambling site has the following odds.

Obama's odds are 2/5 (to win $2, you need to bet $5)

Romney's odds are 9/5 (to win $9, you need to bet $5), clearly showing that Obama is the favorite.

Also, the lowest payoff by the bookies on the number of electoral votes that Obama will win is 303 (winning Ohio, losing Florida). The odds are 7/2.

Now, go out there and make some easy money with Obama!

Post Nov 6th I will know who is My Number ONE Enemy !

And The Rest ...

TREACHEROUS ALLIANCE: Shapour Bakhtiar’s Post Mortem Message to NIAC’ers

Peyvandetoon Mobarak: Obama finds fans among Chavistas

Obama finds fans among Chavistas (cnn)

After years of U.S.-Venezuela antagonism, Hugo Chavez has endorsed Barack Obama, calling him a "good guy," leading to hopes of a fresh start between the two countries after the U.S. election 

Faramarz, HG

Thanks for your responses,  it is true that most of Romney's advisors are neocons.  but there are also some very moderate and thoughtful voices advising him. I agree, Bolton and many other names advising him give me serious concern. 

I have had a problem warming up to Obama since the 2009 uprising and after he signed the Indefinite Detention Bill into law but I was going to vote Obama anyway.  I have to admit, the debates have thrown me for a loop.   I have come to think could Romney actually be a capable technocrat and not a conservative idealogue?        

I prefered what Romney "said" about Iran, as I heard "Freedom" from him and only Nuclear issue from Obama.   I know, I know, he could be lying.

etch a sketch

mehrban, i found your references to romney amusing ('plausible,' 'reasonable').  romney is a etch-a-sketch candidate.  he practically says anything to get elected.  and he contradicted himself last night on some issues (e.g., statements he made at a military academy last week regarding his view of withdrawal of troops from iraq and his complete reversal during the debate). 

at any rate, he was just trying to appeal to women voters and independents last night.  that's why you heard all the buzzwords like 'peace,' 'civil society,' 'can't kill your way out...'

you might have also missed him taking credit for successes in massachusettes before he became a governor of that state, or pledging to repeal obamacare (somewhat akin to universal health plan enjoyed in european countries, canada, mexico, ....) which is similar to his own health plan when in mass (romneycare).

for sure, you can find some of his words plausible or reasonable since he's argued for and against everything he's said on campaign trail this year! :)

p.s. i remember that most iranian agreed that obama did the right thing during the 2009 uprising in iran by not exercising military action and voicing support for the demonstrators.

Mehrban

At this point, Romney speaks from both sides of his mouth to get elected and hasn’t put forward a clear foreign policy agenda (just like pre-election W Bush.) So we need to look at his key advisors to have a read on where he is going. Right now his top advisors are John Bolton (MEK supporter) and Dan Senor (John Brennan’s spokesman when he was the Cazr of Baghdad!)

That’s enough bad news for me to run for the hills!

As for blaming Obama for not jumping on Iranian Greens’ side immediately here is my view.

First, in the early hours and days of summer of ’09 uprising there were many Iranians who wanted the US to stay out of it and not to give the Regime an excuse to call the movement, a US-inspired velvet revolution.

Second, it took a few days and weeks to ascertain who exactly was on the streets, Mousavi/Karroubi/Khatami and the pro-Regime charlatans, or young Iranians who wanted a genuine change. As the President of the US and the leader of the free world, you cannot be wrong on throwing your support behind the wrong people and then change your position.

Finally, one of Obama’s key foreign policy promises was to exhaust every peaceful option on the Regime’s nuclear program and he just couldn’t abandon negotiations with the Regime before it has run its natural course.

Today, he can say that he tried everything and nothing worked and the allies are all with him.   

Faramarz and DK, I found Romney more plausible

I actually found Romney's approach more plausible on Iran. Also his critique of Obama on Syria, egypt, etc, reasonable, in last night's debate.  

He also talked about how Obama stood by during the 2009 Iranian uprising.  I liked his presentation last night on what concerns Iran. 

Obama vs Romney?

Sage Zard baradar e shoghale.

 I signed the Farakahmeli a while back. Thanks for sharing the link though  

Cofused

So one person said basically we should move to Ohio or Florida if we want our vote to count!!!
I always think about that , to be more specific the Experts tell you the diffrence comes down to one County in Ohio Cayahoga not sure of the Spelling .

Thanks for the link , I just signed

I was looking for the link for "Farakhan Meli" and I found it here. Thanks.  Hope we all get united under the flag of shir o khorsheed and remove the monsters from the power in Iran.

Payandeh Iran.

Larijani: Iran prefers Obama

Larijani: Iran prefers Obama

Iranian parliament speaker says his country is leaning towards Democratic candidate in US presidential election 'because he is more flexible and rational' 

Obama or Romney ?

What difference to the world? Hardly any, I'm afraid.

Personally, don't trust religious freaks. So, would vote for Obama (if I were an American, that is).

As @maziar said in Italian: "Lascia perdere".

Dk jaan

lascie a perder

if it is in french.

Democrat or Republican are TSS in my opinion.

They Both look for America and her interest Plus their own circle for mor profits.

* TSS = the same Sh**

Maziar

Faramarz Jan What makes You Think I'm voting for Romney ? ...

DK Jaan

If you are registered to vote in California or any of the "blue" states, your vote for Romney will be inconsequential since these states are already decided. The same is true for the "red" states.

But if you are registered in Florida, Ohio or a handful of other toss up states, then please stay in Paris and don't screw things up for Obama!