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I agree

I have read that Obama will delay public contacts until after July IR election

IF

IF any progress is made in normalizing the relation between Iran and USA, during and before Iranian election, this MONKEYnejad will rack a huge political victory.

I do hope that Obama slows down till the election is over. 4 more years of ANTARInejad will be absolute disaster for the economy, reputation and welfare of Iranian people.

Suggestion: log into [change.gov] and have your voice heard by administration.

Regards

capt_ayhab [-YT]

Ahmaghinejad

is not even taken seriously by those in power in Islamic Republic, He is just an idiot mouth peace that everyone is laughing at. He is not even worth at least my time to talk about.

He has said so much stupid nonesense and lies that even if we white wash one , there are still 100's to deal with. Obama should just direct all his comments and letters in future to Khamenei and ignore this idiot

Hopefully this loud joke of a human being president will not be re s-elected in July 2009 and join the  trash bin of history like Bush did.

legitimacy based on referendum

Is there a statue of limitation on referendums or is it permanent? 30 years has passed since that yes and no referendum. If they are so "legitimate" why are they so afraid about another referendum?

and does the performance based on the promises of 30 years ago that got them the yes vote count too? or it doesn't matter? once some people come in based on certain criteria's , what they DO and the RESULTS do no matter?

So If JAHELO and alike have suddenly become democrats then they should know with "legitimacy" goes checks and balances and time frames and means for removal from power those who do opposite of promises or resort to corruption or break the laws etc...

This IR mob does not even follow its own constitution. They break their own laws every single day and I can make a 30,000 page book with specific violations and letters of IR lawss and constitution of Islamic Republic to prove that.

So do us a favor and just show your IR chomagh and spare us the nonsense of "legitimacy"

Ms. Jaleho

Wining an election does NOT legitimize a government, or does it?

Unless you can set forth concrete deviance that the election in Iran was not tampered with, please for crying out loud do not call IR a legitimate government representing people of Iran, just because they won in an election.

I do clearly remember the VERY FIRST election held after Akhund Mutiny[I refuse to call it a revolution], There was only ONE question in the ballet:

Islamic Republic: Yes No

You call this sh!t an election? I call it a death sentence which was forced upon our people.

Regards Madam

capt_ayhab [-YT]

Dear Reporter.....For How Long???

One once said[Old as war itself is the practice of de-humanizing our enemy/victim to justify slaughter. ]

Ever since the fall of Berlin wall[don't get excited, Israel built another one around Gaza], with subsequent fall of communism, west, in particular Zionist needed another [EVIL]. The lucky winner of the[Evil Lotto]Muslims of course, particularly Iran.

With their vast oil reserve,  [bestowed]
third world title, already beaten either by old colonial dogs, or being beaten by new colonial Zionist, who will pull out the [victim card] on the drop of hat,  and who would not hesitate to label even Nobel Peace
prize winners[Jimmy Carter] a Jew hater.

At the expense of receiving some honor badge of IR supporter[which I could not care less], I must say that it is a proven fact, even by admission of newspapers that Ahmadinejad's words about[wiping out Israel] was spin by media and Israel to further demonize Iran and Muslims as a whole.

He said that "like Soviet Union" Israel would disappear and wiped off. What does that mean??????? Did the "people" living in Soviet Union disappear?? No, the "system" (soviet
system) disappeared. So, what he says is that "Zionism" would disappear, not the population of Israel.

But Israeli and Western political and media establishments would carry on with their evil
agendas. Who cares what the truth is. Because they already know the truth but deceive their peoples.

Quoting VERBATIM from Haaretz Dec. 12, 2006  //www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArtStEng.jhtm...

[Thanks to people's wishes and God's will the trend for the existence of the Zionist regime is [headed] downwards and this is what God has promised and what all nations want," he said. Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so will the Zionist regime soon be wiped out," he added.
]

or //www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/2...

[The devil is in the detail, wiping Israel off the map suggests a physical genocidal assault, a literal population relocation or elimination akin to what the Nazis did. According to numerous different translations,
Ahmadinejad never used the word "map," instead his statement
was in the context of time and applied to the Zionist regime occupying Jerusalem. Ahmadinejad was expressing his future hope that the Zionist regime in Israel would fall, not that Iran was going to physically annex
the country and its population.

To claim Ahmadinejad has issued a rallying cry to ethnically cleanse Israel is akin to saying that Churchill wanted to murder all Germans when he stated his desire to crush the Nazis. This is about the demise of a corrupt occupying power, not the deaths of millions of innocent
people.

The Guardian's Jonathan Steele cites four different translations, from professors to the BBC to the New York Times and even pro-Israel news outlets, in none of those translations is the word "map" used.
The closest translation to what the Iranian President actually said is, "The regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time," or a narrow relative thereof. In no version is the word "map" used or a context of mass genocide or hostile military action even hinted at.]

Now what? Label me as you wish, my position has been and will be clear, and that is IR MUST be wiped out. 

Now wait a minute, What was it that I just said????

Allow me ask a question, when I say IR must be wiped out, eradicated, do I mean to say that all Iranians must be killed? Fact is we all use the phrase that IR must be eradicated. I do trust neither one of us is trying to say all Iranians must be eradicated, or do we?

Point I am trying to make, as I see it the only obstacle in normalization of relationship between Nation of America and Nation of Iran is going to be Zionist regime. Zionist will not and can not stand any peace process in ME. History of past 60 year of their brutal and inhumane genocide of innocent women and children is proof.

Respectfully

capt_ayhab [-YT]

p/s I know I digress at times, thanks for your patience in reading my comment ;-)

Jaleh's Islamic Republic Proproganda again

I did not support Israel's actions in Gaza nor approve of many of its policies and I have always been for negotiations versus war and blooshed which is exactly why I point my finger at both Isreal and Hamas. So there is nothing new that I have to live with . I will be very happy if all parties negotiate , that is what I have been promoting all alond ...

But as for you and your support of IR and Hamas's denials of Isreal's right to exist ,YOU LIVE WITH IT because your Hamas " has to, and will" recognize Isreal as a legitimate state with all its rights because that is the only way they can effectively survive and that is what you have to deal with. 

I do not support Isreal's actions but you openly support Islamic Mob of Iran and in your words  "IRI as legitimate and elected representative of Iranians."

A regime who has been responsible for death and suffering of so many Iranians. You should be ashmed of yourself JALEH  O. I am ashamed that Iranians like you are around, the ones like you who supposedly cry for Palestinians but want their own people executed, imprisoned, flagged, stoned and more...by their "legitimate regime"

and I am ashemed of so many here who side with you and do not say a word to your kind just because they oppose Isreal. 

Yes "Shame on You " all...shame

David's Israeli propaganda again!

Israel failed to destroy Hamas. Neither sanction and economic strangulation worked, nor the recent Israeli genocide in Gaza.

Then you're hoping that your propaganda would work Mr. ET?!

Live with it, US has to, and will deal both with Hamas as legitimate elected representative of Palestinians, and IRI as legitimate and elected representative of Iranians.

Who's blind here?

I wasn't going to touch this blog any further but since you have finally come around and talking a little about history then I make this last exception.  You mentioned nothing about the settlements and settlers violence in your blog.  This is perhaps the main reason for the failure of the peace process.  Hamas's rise was in this context.  The PLO's acceptance of Israel's existence did not buy a real settlement.  I suggest you educate yourself about what happened in Taba. There is a very informative debate between Norman Finkelstein and Shlomo ben Ami (who was Ehud Barak's prime minister) about this. It was moderated by Amy Goodman's Democracy Now. It's very enlightening.  There is nothing wrong about educating oneself. I do it all the time and have no claim on a monopoly on truth. I don't believe in being stuck in history either. If South African blacks can come to a settlement with Afrikaners so could the Palestinians.  They can learn plenty from the Jews like how to have a democracy albeit fragile. But all being said, there is no moral equivalency here.  Israel is the occupier, a very brutal occupier and is infinitely more powerful.  Collectively punishing the Palestinians and refusing to talk with people who after all were elected in an election overseen by the international community is arrogance.  It's up to Israel and its patron the US to show the true good faith first. Stop the policy of targeted assassinations, which is by the way one of Hamas's condition for a lasting truce. Stop all new settlements and stop rezoning Jerusalem and expanding Jewish section there.  End the blockade of Gaza. Stop arbitrary arrests of Palestinians and jailing them indefinitely.  It's only then that they can demand Hamas or Fatah or any other representatives of Palestinians an in kind response.  In the long term, Israel has to commit to a truely equitable two state solution which is a real independent Palestinian state, a settlement of refugees issues, relinquishing East Jerusalem.  That means not an inch of Israel proper by the way and as you see every compromise is made by the Palestinians.  No more frustrating the peace process. Real action not PR. My problem with you is that you put the onus on the Palestinian side. They are the victims here regardless of what you and I think of Hamas. I want a secular Palestine, people like Hanan Ashrawi and the civil society groups but as long as the Palestinians are in a state of war, mostly imposed on them by Israel, the moderates are pushed out. Hamas has come out of Gaza fiasco even stronger and I suspect the Israeli government doesn't mind that. As to Israeli public, I'm sure there are many Israelis who want peace but what peace and on whose terms?  They are not going to achieve it by electing Netanyahu. Of course there’s a minority of very decent Israelis who are anti-occupation and work hard in documenting the IDF’s abuses but unfortunately they are in a minority. On the Palestinian side there is a minority who works hard to encourage Jewish-Arab co-operation.  The only way to marginalize the extremists on both sides and make the minorities the majority is start with what I have listed above.

aka Justin

I agree with your comment :"I'm sick and tired of people who label anyone who criticize Israel as anti-Jewish/anti-semitic. This is a pathetic weapon invented by Zionists to destroy their opponents"

and to add to that also  "I'm sick and tired of people who label anyone who criticize" Hamas or Muslim extremists, as Zionists. "This is a pathetic weapon invented by the extremists "to destroy their opponents."

It's a vicious cycle that some on both sides subscribe to, isn't it?!

Hamas and peace

Carter is referring to his talks with Hamas last summer prior to the June cease-fire. They then agreed to cease-fire on the conditions of Israel opening the borders (letting 800 trucks carrying food and medicine in daily) and stopping the air raids. Israel broke both conditions by blocking trucks from entering Gaza and killing 6 Hamas members on November 04 in an air raid (Israel's excuse was that they did not negotiate directly with Hamas and they do not find the said cease-fire bondable!).

Hamas' position has not changed as they still insist on Israel's withdrawal behind pre-1967 borders. The peace they are committing to is after Israel ending the occupation and dismantling the settlements!

David ET:

Sorry, but you don't make sense at all. No matter how you want to twist the facts, you cannot justify the barbaric acts of Israelis. Killing babies with weapons of mass destruction cannot be explained by any sensible person.

I'm sick and tired of people who label anyone who criticize Israel as anti-Jewish/anti-semitic. This is a pathetic weapon invented by Zionists to destroy their opponents. David ET, are you a Zionist?

Asghar

You simply close your eyes to my comment such as: "regardless of certain elements in the Israeli government, the Israeli public is ready for peace "

and then "lump" the whole Israeli public to war mongers by ridiculing my statement about their public being ready for peace.

And then continue ridiculing by throwing Tamil and Japanese red army who have NOTHING to do with Middle East and subject of this blog and then call yours "analysis".

The people of the world have heard the histories by both sides for years and years from ancient jews to the olive gardens of Palestinians , from massacres to suicide bombings  .  You want to keep repeating it and EDUCATING us , go ahead. They all are available with click of a mouse...all versions!

As long as both sides stay stuck in the past, the bloodsheds of the past will hunt them. So the choice is clear is to either move forward towards future or keep repeating the same mistakes . 

The difference between me and you is that I too believe that Israel should stop the settlements, that Israel should change its ways and I also condemn what it just did to people of Gaza but I also condemn extremists such as Hamas who promote total annihilation of Israel  ...

Noone has problem with the name Hamas, or them being elected ....  The problem is that one can not engage in effective solutions when they catagorically deny the right of another to even exist.

Extremists have gained NOTHING, absolutely nothing in the past 60 years for Palestinians and they will not for another 60 years either.

Same for Israel who will NOT live in peace unless it stops its own extremism on all fronts.

and THAT I believe is the message that Obama will directly and hopefully effectively communicate to all sides.

Why

don't you throw in the Tamil Tigers and the Japanese Red Army in the mix too?  They also advocate political violence.  Without considering context and history all you say is generalities and of little value except for the like-minded who are going to cheer you on. But if you abhor political violence in general then you shouldn’t cherry pick facts.  The armed Jewish settlers who illegally occupy Palestinian land and have a virtual cart blanche to kill any Arab in the name of self-defence are also terrorists, so is the IDF that stands by and allows this to happen.  These religious fundamentalists, some of whom are funded by anti-Semitic Christian Armageddonists, wage their war in the name god, some of whom frankly make some of our own Islamist wackos look rational. Don't take my word, listen to human right groups in Israel.  Very few if any settler has ever been prosecuted for killing Arabs.  Israel’s policy of collective punishment which targets infrastructure, devastated Lebanon two years ago and has reduced Gaza to rubble, the same policy that used to target the Palestinian Authority whenever slightest harm was done to an Israeli, is also an act of terrorism.  And what did the recognition of Israel bought Arafat but a pathetic Bantustan style settlement? The only thing that it did was invoke a civil war between Fatah and Hamas.  I frankly don't get people like you.  Who is the occupier and who is the occupied here?  Just because you're pissed off at the IRI doesn't mean you have to check your intelligence and conscience at the door.  If Israel is serious about peace, as I said in my last post, it should stop all new settlements in the Occupied Territories. That's the minimum.  The moral obligation is on Israel because it is the infinitely more powerful side.  There has been hundreds of new settlements since the Oslo back in 1991.  Netenyahu said explicitly back in the mid-90 when Likud won power that his policy was going to be “one step forward, two step backward”, in other word delay and frustrate the peace process.  This has not changed in successive Israeli governments.  Do you have an answer for this or you're going to dance around the topic some more with a lot of Pollyanna-like  statements about terrorism?

Lets hope so

Asghar: Regardless of differences , all 4: Al Quada, IR, Hamas and Hezbollah (child of IR) have certain common and undeniable characteristics and resorting (or supporting terrorism) is one of them. The history of how they each came about or their eventual goals etc does not change that.

sickofiri: I do hope that Hamas leadership because of the following few reasons do change their old ways and start negotiating peace :

1-  They asked for and promoted war and they got it and half leaders got killed 

2- The Palestinians voted for them and by now have realized that Hamas's confrontational ways and rhetoric lead only in to their own death and destruction and will expect them to change their ways as a matter of survival.

3- As groups , parties and individuals get in to power , they tend to become more conservative and leave their old ways and as a matter of at least staying in power and self preservation they chose more rational way of dealing with issues.

But as the very first necessary step they must officially recognize the state of Israel and until that day, any talk of peace on their part is at best a temporary tactic to regain enough power with the goal of eventual annihilation of enemy.  

If they are serious , that recognition and call for peace must come from Hamas and not from Carter's or anyone else's mouth.

I can not claim wanting peace with what I do not even accept has the right to exist!

Video

Carter was on Larry King last night and was refreshingly outspoken and fair and he had insightful comments regarding Hamas. He said Hamas leaders have promised him that they do want peace if Israelis are fair:

//www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/01/...

Reading between the lines

Obviously, the issue that some commentators here have is not about obtaining peace but their issue is with "Majority of Israeli's" which translates to they either are anti-jewish or as a whole do not beleive in existence of Israel.

They openly claim that the majority of nation of Israel wants war and by making such de-humanization of a nation , they justify the policies of the ones they support (Hamas and IR )who do not believe in existence of Israel.

Asghar_Massombagi,

I totally agree with you. If Obama really wants to make permanent peace in the Middle East, he must first address the root cause of the problem, and that's the issue of Palestinian land and refugees. However, since the Israelis have no interest in resolving these issues and no president of the US has guts to confront Israelis, I see no hope in Obama's initiative. Just giving one or two speeches and interviews on the subject and repeating the old political rhetoric differently will not solve anything.

The joke of the day: The majority of Israelis want peace and are determined to expand the settlements!!

It is so refreshing to see Zionist heads blow off over this

It means Obama is right. Likewise, if I could just send a message to the fanatic asshats who rule in the Middle East or are contemplating joining an anti-American group: ignoring this message of peace will only make YOU look bad. 

This is just brilliant. If you can conquer HIllary, Baghdad/Sudan/Jerusalem/Tehran (specially Tehran) should be a piece of cake. 

David ET

thank you.  this was very interesting.

"Holocaust a 'big lie'" - Iran govt spokesman

"Holocaust a 'big lie'" - Iran govt spokesman
AFP - World News
Jan 27, 2009

TEHRAN — Iran's government spokesman on Tuesday branded the Holocaust a "big lie" created to place the Islamic republic's arch-foe Israel in the Middle East, the state IRNA news agency reported.

"The Holocaust is a concept coming from a big lie in order to settle a rootless regime in the heart of the Islamic world," Gholam Hossein Elham told a conference on Gaza in central Iran's religious city of Qom.

It was not the first time an Iranian official has questioned the massacre of Jews by Nazis in World War II.

Iran does not recognise Israel, and since his election in 2005 President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has attracted international condemnation by repeatedly predicting that the Jewish state is doomed to disappear.

In late 2005 Ahmadinejad branded the Holocaust a "myth." His comment was followed by a conference in Tehran in 2006 that brought together Holocaust deniers and revisionists.

A mass-circulation Iranian newspaper also staged a controversial cartoon competition on the subject.

In September last year a group of Iranian Islamist students unveiled a book mocking the Holocaust and filled with anti-Semitic stereotypes and revisionist arguments.

The United Nations designated January 27 as international Holocaust memorial day in 2005, marking the date Soviet troops liberated the largest Nazi death camp, Auschwitz-Birkenau, in Poland.

Settlements

The issue of settlements is a major deciding factor on the feasibility of peace in the ME. Indeed, not only Obama, but no other American president has been, or is able to make Israel stop the settlement buildings, let alone dismantle them! Interestingly, the next Israeli PM, Natanyahu, has become the leading candidate by putting the promise of settlement expansions on the top of his to-do list -- and he is going to win in that platform alone! That tells volumes about the majority of Israelis wanting peace!

If things don't work out it will be...

likely due to another disinformation campaign.

most of us remeber this little stunt

//www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,193521,00.html?iid=fb_share 

by Ariel Sharon in 2002 after possibiltiy of improved relation between Iran and US occured after Iran helped the US insecuring Afghanistan.

Once can speculate that if things had gone the way they shuld have gone in 2002 there would not have been an AhmadiNejad as Iran's president in 2004. 

Morgh va tokhm e morgh

//www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2009/01/090127_i...

Mishmash "analysis"

Lumping the IRI, Hamas and Hezbollah and Alqaeda is not analysis, it's rhetoric, mostly the neo-con American and Israeli PR.  Hizballah has solid roots amongst the Shi'a in Lebanon who were disenfranchised in Lebanon for over 60 years. The Cedar revolutionaries were no democrats,  just look at the political system in Lebanon to see how the Shi'a majority has had to bend over in front of Christians (who are no pussycats themselves)and the Druze since the formation of Lebanon.  Read a little about Lebanon's political history to see what I mean. By the way in the early 80's Amal (the predecessor of Hisballah) were allies of the Christians against the PLO, so things are not as simplistic as you portray them.  The rise of Hamas in the Occupied Territories was in no small part due to the US and Israel pitting them again the PLO, as well as the failure of the Olso accord, which itself was in large measure due to Israel’s bad faith in dealing with the Palestinians. There were hundreds of new settlements built after the 1991 with the PLO looking on helplessly. The US and Israel can negotiate with all these parties within reason.  Hamas has not ruled out negotiation with Israel; it's Israel who has refused to negotiate with "the terrorists." Well, these terrorists were elected in an election overseen by international observers.  The fact that you and I don't like them doesn't change that fact.  If the PLO had been able to show real results rather than shameful Bantustan settlement that Barak and Clinton tried to shove down Arafat's throat things would have been much different.As to Israeli public be willing to have peace, where do you get your info?  Are they really willing to settle the two state plan, in a real equitable way?  Are they willing even to stop the new settlements in the Occupied Territories?  Are they willing to give up East Jerusalem?  Is the United States willing to demand Israel to put an immediate stop to building new settlements in Palestinian lands or the foreign aide that Israel relies on will be suspended?  Recall that Bush the father once made a half hearted threat regarding this and was almost flayed open by the AIPAC.  The fact is that every compromise is demanded from the Palestinians, not a single one from Israelis.  No one is even talking about giving up an inch of Haifa or Tel Aviv so why is all the dumping on the Hamas?  No, I don't like them to be in power either but that is not my decision, neither is it yours or Zipi Livni's.  If Obama really wants to show good will towards the “Muslim World”, his first action would be to ask Israel to stop any new settlement in the Occupied Territories and end the blockade of Gaza.  Then direct negotiation with Hamas on the condition that democratic institutions will be respected and in due course new elections will be guaranteed.  If Obama accomplishes these two simple things then he would have the upper hand to isolate the hardliners on both sides and take the initiative away from the IRI. 

Dear Farokh

You make excellent points and I hope this will be a start of revision of past failed policies and beginning of a healing process on the other side. The issue that remains is that BUILDINGING peace is much more difficult than DESTROYING the process and there are so many on both sides with matches in their hands ready to put any efforts on fire followed by masses (many of them even so called intellectuals) usually follow the traps again...

As for Obama's policies , despite the common thinking that due to his lack of foreign policy experience he may not be as effective, I actually think he will be able to achieve much because he has the right VISION, but my worry is opposite of most people think:

 SO FAR what I have seen is lack of experience in dealing with on even bigger front which is the economic issues (from late in campaign to present with the concept of throwing more money at the same people who caused the mess)

He relies on so called experienced advise but the problem is most of those who are giving him such advise are the same ones who also promoted the prior failed policies.

If time allows, one of these days I will address my views on the serious problem that is facing Obama and the potential way out, in a separate blog.

Point well taken but.......

I agree that the criminal Mullahs are not in the mood for peace, but we need to remember that they did not just happen to come to existance and power in Iran by themsleves. They had help.

The CIA kept and protected Khomeini in Iraq for over 25 years. Saddam with instructions from US was protecting him there, until the day they needed him to come back and replace the Shah, who had gotten out of control and was no use for CIA anylonger.

When they had no use for him, they just tossed him to the garbage bin and put the Mullahs in power and then encouraged Saddam to start a War that they knew he could not win.

Arms and Chemical Weapons  were sold to Saddam and basically US fought with the Iranian kids, who were sacrificed by the criminal Mullahs.

Did this buy US any love in that Country?. I don't think so. It was as bad as the 1953 overthrow of Mossadegh.

I am not sure how and when US and other "Super Powers" are going to get the point that they cannot colonize other nations any longer.

The main point here is get out of other Countries and their business and let them work their issues internally and if you want their Resources, just buy it from them, not manipulate to get it for free.

Yes, people of all kinds do want peace and harmoney, no matter where they are.  This is nothing new, of course and we have seen it all throughout the history of mankind.

The difference is now is the age of Media and Internet and Information and it gets harder to just invade others and take over their Countries and get away with it. People are more informed and they will fight back and then you have a huge amount of blood on your hands that will not go away for a long, long time.

Do you think the familes of the murdered people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran will ever forget and forgive the people who have committed these crimes?. I don't think so.

Obama is willing to try to mend some of the wounds but they are so deep that it will take a long while to heal them. GW did not do him much favor by creating the latest mess and leaving it for him.

نماینده خامنه ای: اوباما در پی توطئه‌ چینی است

نماینده خامنه ای: اوباما در پی توطئه‌ چینی است
خبرگزاري حکومتی فارس: فرمانده نيروي بسيج گفت اوباما توطئه‌هاي آمريكا را با روش‌هاي جديد دنبال مي‌كند.

حسین طائب فرمانده نيروي مقاومت بسيج گفت آمریکائیها مي‌خواهند با شعار تغيير وجه خود را در عرصه بين‌الملل بازسازي كنند اما بازسازي اين چهره مخدوش زماني امكان پذير است كه آمريكا با تغيير رويكرد از روحيه تجاوز‌گري، سلطه‌گري و ضايع كردن حقوق ملت‌ها دست بردارد.

وی افزود تا ديروز مي‌خواستند استراتژي خود را با عمليات پيش‌دستانه و نظامي پيگيري كنند اما امروز مي‌خواهند با سياست چماق و هويج و اعلام مشوق و بحث ايجاد ارتباط اين استراتژي خود را دنبال كنند و در كنارش محاصره ‌هاي ديگري را مطرح كنند تا ملت‌هاي آزاده را به تسليم بكشانند.

وي تاكيد كرد: با اين وجود ملت ايران در اين سه دهه اخير نشان داد كه همه اين امور را پشت سر مي‌گذارد و امروز جمهوري اسلامي با وجود همه اين توطئه‌ها به يك قدرت منطقه‌اي تبديل شده و گام‌هاي خود را يكي پس از ديگري برمي‌دارد و به بركت حاكميت گفتمان اصولگرايي آن كسي كه حرف اول را مي‌زند و ديگران بايد خود را با آن تنظيم كنند، جمهوري اسلامي است.

"my two cents"

Not to mention that at the time Khatami , being afraid of one man versus (Vali Faghih) versus relying on support of had the support of MILLIONS of Iranianwho were hoping and seeking a new direction, did not have the BALLS to even step
out of the UN bathroom to simply let Clinton who was patiently waiting oustide to shake his hands (Or could it be that there is no soap in the world that can wash Mullahs  hands off with ? ;-) Such losers running a 5000+ old country

Indeed there is no hope for those such as IR regime and Hamas when
their own constitution or charter is specifically based on policy of
confrontation and war...(unless people get rid of them)...

It takes two to tango . 

I am so sick of those who promote war and then when war starts at the cost of human suffering, they shed crocodile tears followed by those with agenda or simple minded people who look at one event at a time without putting it all in to perspective

let's remain hopeful, after all people have always prevailed...

Well Said !

I approve with your points 100 %

Thanks for Sharing !