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fesenjoon

Dude. I don't even follow the spurs no more. I just wonder if Eva joon is available so we can go for a kup ovvv kofeeeee and a little you know ... ehem and oohoom... you think i should call her up?:)

Paul is what i call a motor mouth. could not talk any faster now could he? Even the night after Mr. Bowls made a reference to his talking style. loved it when Sen. simpson called charlie "Boy". lol

Charlie is always after the specifics something that This guy was not too fond of.

Martike  khar! (ryan)LOL fek mikard mellat basic concepte budget deficit o spending o dark nemikonan . :)))

Great Show

I finally got the chance to watch Charlie Rose. A fine show and brilliant insight. Thank you. Normally I avoid American Televisions. But I will be watching this on a regular basis.

Paul Ryan?

Yeh, and I noticed how Charlie became a bit impatient with him, as if trying to say "eenghad sho'aar nadeh! harf-e hesaabeto bezan!"

And he's supposed to be one of the GOP's more sophisticated types.

BTW, you guys are now 9-1. Dang.

fesenjoon

Did You see the "ver vere Jadoo and Verraj" that appeared right before him? I mean Ryan from WIs?:) maaan... He is something eles.

funny

Charlie Rose just recently aired an interview on this VERY SAME topic :-)

They almost talked on the EXACT same things we did!

Very informative. Highly recommended.

Fesenjoon

You made very good points on China and how it compares with the USA. I agree with almost all of it. Basically China is a third world nation that is working hard to be first world. Their technology is based on Western specially American. Their economy is based on exporting to the West without which they will collapse. They need the West.

Many of the companies in China are multi or rather trans-nationals. They have full access to global technology as well as money. They are willing to take risks and do not really care where they set up their operations as long as it is profitable. So in a way they are our friends !!

For Iranians to prosper we need to have ties with everyone. I was just making a point that if USA is too nervous we can start with China. Once the USA centric companies see businesses working they will jump on the bandwagon. It will take time but not as long as some may fear. No one is going to want to miss out on the new markets in Iran.

From an Iranian point of view (post IRI?) we need to create jobs. In order to do so we need investment and technology. There are many kinds of jobs  each of which requires a different type of approach. For example say we want to say build a Chip fab facility. That requires transnationals ; their money and technology. On the other hand a Software only firm is pretty easy to set up with a few million $ from Iranian ex-pats themselves. 

My own expertise is in Software. I  know this because it is my business. It is the perfect thing to start in Iran. Low initial set up cost means it is not a huge risk for investors. Plenty of personal contact among Iranian Americans in the business make sales possible. And it is easy to do remotely with high speed internet.

Lastly, of course you are welcome to be on my outsourcing gig. After all it is people like you with best for Iran at heart who will make it happen.

a side note on China

Interesting points.

I also tend to think that China is supplying credit to the US, which is a heavily consumer based society now. I hear about it on Charlie Rose almost every night.

But when it comes to technology, I dont think China has ANY superiority over the United States. True, they are catching up agressively, but they are nowhere near the cutting edges yet.

The United States has lost its single place in the frontiers of sci/tech, but it still has a strong place among the top technological innovative pact of nations.

Here are some good indicators I can recall:

* You have to put Japan, England, and Germany together, just to match the number of cited scientific papers published in the last 10 years (1997-2007) by the US.

* US ranks 5th in "the measure of the quality of a country’s information communications technology infrastructure and the ability of its consumers, businesses and governments to use this technology to their benefit". China is 57th.

* US ranked 1st by World Economic Forum in Financial Development

* In nuclear energy, their entire energy grid is based on technology from Areva (France) and Westinghouse. 

* In aerospace technologies, China is still perfecting Soviet capsule designs. And their aviation industry is abysmal. All the world's technology is either at Boeing or Airbus or Lockheed , etc.

* Renewable energies? The same greedy oil companies in Texas that caused the spill in the Gulf, also are responsible for making Doctor Mohandes' state #1 in wind energy investment, and the US #1 in the world.

* Who is currently building the world's most advanced fully electric and hybrid luxuries? That title goes to companies like Tesla (with its 300 mile range battery) or Fisker Karma. China is currently busy reverse engineering European and American made cars. And they love Buicks more than their own cars.

* There is a reason why China doesnt have any top universities yet. Their top school appears at #47 in global rankings. The US has 13 schools in just the top 20.

* In medical fields, I'd argue that Iran is probably more advanced than China if you consider population, budgets, papers published, etc. When a Chinese billionaire wants top medical expertise for his kid, he goes to Penn Childrens in Philly. When he wants a #1 cancer research center, he goes to M.D. Anderson. AIDS research? UCSF. Specialized care? Mayo Clinic. Medical care for its people in America is fucked up. But technologically, it's the reverse.

* Even China's showcase skyscrapers are designed and engineered by American firms. (example 1)(example 2) 

I just cited these examples to say that although the technological gap between US and China is closing fast (they are 1.3 Billion ppl after all), but at present, China's top achievements are merely things like making cool bullet trains and reverse engineering things other people build. Once you peek your head inside places like Lawrence Livermore National Labs or Sandia or ORNL or LANL, one begins to feel the true enourmous size and power of American technological infrastructure.

And besides, China's successes will not last very long, IMO. 1.3 Billion ppl poses massive demands on energy and resources, which the Chinese are already struggling to supply. This explains why the average Chinese outside the big cities still lives a shitty life, even compared to Iranian living standards.

So that's why I think IRI is making a strategic mistake in aligning itself with China for the next 20-30-40 yrs. It's a shortsighted decision, merely based on an ideology of anti-American populism. What the idiots in Iran cant see is that China wont survive the 21st century. Brazil, Turkey, Poland and other eastern Europe states...these countries will emerge as large powers. The US will also prevail eventually, depending on what happens after 2012. But China? They have severe physical limitations, and they havent reached it yet. Even so, theyre already acting desperate. Just look at their policies in Africa. Already starving for energy.

So in the end, I do support VKP's outsourcing jobs to Iran ideas. Because we need to get the US and Iran talking to eachother again. They fit eachother's needs so perfectly. Natural strategic partners, if u ask me. Agha, if u ever start up something, glue me in as well!

VPK

Stilll, The investor needs to know what is happening to his capital and wants to make "surprise visits" every now and then. So going there will happen one way or the other.

I know much of USA is owned by the chinese, but does that mean they have power over every single industry? what about some main, ONly american, american-discovered and invented technologies?

India and china, are not in the same situation as iran, geopolitically speaking. India by far is a much safer haven, at any given time, politically, socially and economically. There are sectarian violence there every once in a while but generally speaking it is a more democratic and open society than iran is. The same goes with china.

Government interference was much less in both of those countries. Given the history of our nation, What are the odds of having a stable political situation that extends that much authority to foreign powers?

Doctor Mohandes

There is a big difference between going somewhere and investing in it. The former means risking your life. The latter your or more like it *other people* money! If I know my Americans, greed will lead them right to Iran :-) Not to mention that they  do not own technology or capital anymore. Much of it is owned by China and other "non" white nations. In fact much of America is owned by Chinese. We are dealing with multi nationals not some redneck hillbilly out of the backwoods.

Regarding China and India my point was that Americans invest there don't they. China was not exactly "safe" when they started. It was a communist nation. But they took their chance.  India was a third world nation but they took their chances.

fesenjoon

Shhay what??? I ain't got no time for aint no god danggit By-ass Surgery son! I used to Take my own kidney stone using the Hook me and couzin hank made in our backyard while listening to Hank williams song (heyy good lookin'.. what you got cookin')...Now... where is that place at? Shiii raazz?? Ishzz that in Arabia somewhere? is that not the famous Wine brand they sell down at country shhtore:)) down the road?

Seriously though. Yeah I think that can happen too, But there has to be drastic economic changes. I mean can you imagine and compare the tuition rate between now and back then?? Do you have any idea how much it is gonna cost for a out of state student at a place like A freaking and M??:0

Bro, you are talking at least 12 grand a semenster. with everything! now tell me how many in Iran have got that kind of moneyy.,,,which reminds me, have you guys noticed that recently so many lawyers of the iranian persuation come on tv encouraging those with 500 smacaroonies to invest and move to the states??

VPK

Be that as it may, The technology that will be implemented and set up in iran belongs to the WHITES and they are the ones who need to give us the AUthorization to export them. Which means attending meeetings and spending time on buisness trips and training stints in iraaan.

The reality is that we must give them every assurance that iran will be a political safe haven for them and create an impression for them that they are entering a place where there is ample, tight security and there are no worries. Frankly my dear:)) it will take a long ass time proving that to them granted the history of our nation, specially the past 30 years and most particularly the Hostage situation. It is old and ancient history, But do you think a typical american will forget it that fast?

Why would we have CHinese and Indians travel there???

doc

well in that case, our redneck friend will have to end up selling his house (or trailer) to pay the 120k bill for By-pass surgery (while he could do it at a 1/4th the cost in Shiraz e.g.)

In the 70s, the largest foreign student population in A&M were Iranian, if I recall. Iranians were popular. So if it happened once, it can happen again. The animosity is reversible, IMO. Public relations isnt that difficult to tackle.

Doctor Mohandes

We actually do not need White Europeans to travel to Iran for outsourcing. There are many Iranian Americans right here in USA.

We make the perfect people to manage it. Remember: most outsourcing to India and China does not require Whites to travel there. Yes you need people to set things up and manage them. But there are a ton of Iranians in the West. Not to mention plenty of Chinese; Indian and other "Americans" who are happy to go; no need for  cowboys.

ahlan va sahlan

ahlan va sahlan? ahlan va sahlan?? LOL

Well, for that to happen, we need people, in the White-stans (europe and USA) to get used to the notion of iran being a safe place to travel to, spend vacation time in and etc. WOuld you say that would happen, even if there is a new system in place? I mean you know how Gavcheroon some of these people are..

they will be like"shayy what?? I aint going tono I ran to get my A.. checked out... MArg.. Gimme my god damn Knife , I gotta medical emergency to attend to" But uncle Dave... its a beatiful country,,, people are nice.. "shut up boy... I dun want to hear it Boy"

Of course, that being the worst case scenario.

Doc

Even so,

All the outsourcing thing would rest on the assumption of a reversal in US-Iran ties. And I dont know if that will ever happen in our life time. The IRI thrives on anti-Americanism. Like the Parazit folks at VOA mentioned, Khamenei mentions the word "doshman" 60 times per sentence.

But..., hypothetically, if there suddenly was a full reversal in relations (and sanctions lifted of course), I could see Iran suddenly jumping in to tap the medical tourism market. It's not that door az zehn, IMO. Wouldnt u say?

not so sure

Hate to burst bubbles in here, But looking through the lens of reality  i am not too sure. 

That iranians will be so receptive to the idea of outsourcing though, at least not in the immediate aftermath of any change that may come in the near future. it is going to take a long time to lay the foundation, and in order for that to happen we need to instill the proper mentality in them. Iranians, particularly the educated elite, which happen to hail from the most prestigios schools in the mid east ranked or unranked, are not like the chinese or the indians or ... The expectations are much higher, The tendency to have a much more lavish life style, which they can not have based on the pay rates that an Out-sourced buisness would hire them for, specially since we are talking about newly established companies, they are young and therefore they have not much revenue. So, Overall, i doubt they will go for the idea.

I am not even sure there will be enough entrepreneurs pursuing the idea to begin with...

true

Yeah. I agree. The IRI has done a wonderful job of painting secularism as militant atheist anti-clericalism.

And it's hard to talk about secularism, when you have a religion whose followers are so exclusivists. Even if IRI isnt around, ppl (some ppl) will still be trashing Bahais or other "non-ahle ketab" religions. In Iran, pluralism hanooz jaa nayoftaadeh.

Im telling u man, for Iran to change, people's views on religion have to change, and that's not an easy thing to do. pulling this kinda shit out of ppl's mental background is the work of hazrat e feel himself.

Fesenjoon Jaan

Regarding separation of church and state. The idea will get reception based on how it is introduced. If it comes across as anti-religion it won't fly. But if it comes across as a way to prevent a repeat of IRI it will fly. People need to know it actually gives them more power. Because it keeps the government out of telling them how to be religious. There seems to be a bit of confusion among some people over secular and atheist. It has to be clearly said that no one is talking about banning religion. In fact that people will be allowed to practice their Islam (or whatever) according to their own tradition. Without having a goon give them a hard time.

Regarding  outsourcing: Iran is perfect for it. As you said: well educated and relatively low cost. If IRI goes I predict a rush by Iranian diaspora to set up outsourcing out there.  

VPK

Re 1: I agree with what u say. Fools are everywhere. Maybe it's because I have high expectations of Iran and Iranians, that has hardened my position into anger.

Re 2: That's a good point u bring up. I do agree with u that most ppl in Iran may in fact resent the govt. However, my argument is that, not enough of them resent the separation of church and state. I bet if we polled the Green reformists in Iran whether or not we should have a secularist system without Rohaniyat in power, most would still say no. See, the problem isnt really IRI or Khamenei. (Today it's Seyd Ali. Tomorrow it's Mojtaba). It's the nezaam that is the problem. Nezam-e Islami.

Re 3: Outsourcing jobs to Iran :-) Thats actually a superb idea. Iran has a highly educated workforce. And it's relatively cheaper to operate a GM plant in Chabahar e.g., than in Detroit.

Fesenjoon

Thanks for the points. You have an excellent understanding of American politics. As well as a very good instinct as how it is going. I hope your guess for Iran is not quite as accurate :-)

Regarding  point 1. My point was that stupidity is a part of human nature. That was it. Therefore it may not be possible to have a society without large numbers of ignorant people. People are just easy to manipulate. They listen to loudmouths and are gullible. They hear what they want and ignore the rest. 

Regarding point 2: You are right about my view. Maybe I am being idealistic and am wrong.  I used to think Islamic Republic was popular. But after the last presidential "elections" I changed my mind. I realized how deep the resentment to government is. Now there may not be a majority who feel that way. But you only need a dedicated motivated minority. 

I believe people would consider Israel an enemy. Propaganda like that exploiting latent anti-Semitism is very effective. However I bet Israel is not the first thing on their mind. People have more pressing things on their minds. I read the link on Pheriphery. I think is is absolutely right and Iran and Israel need each other. I also do not believe that India and Turkey will be a replacement for Iran. Yes they are helpful but neither occupies the postion of Iran both based on history and geography.

Regarding point 3: I do not know if shock is effective but I wish you luck. More power to you if it works great. 

If things change and the Mollahs are muzzled I won't be here for long. I will be doing some high tech import business. Importing jobs to Iran!

Best,

VPK

VPK

Of course we have the same goals. We only have differences on how to get there. But differences are OK, as long as we dont lose sight of the goal, and fully embrace plurality, which Im sure you do.

I see 3 major differences we have that keep coming up:

1) America is also bad in many respects. Yes, for every Mesbah Yazdi there is a Pat Robertson. For every Ramin (Vazir farhang deputy), there is a Glen Beck. For every black mark in our history, there can be found a bigger and uglier one in American history.

But the thing is, knowing that there exists a plethora of Americans in Wall Street that would even lie to their mothers, doesnt give me (and my concern about Iran) any comfort. Knowing that the US fought a war in Iraq based on a lie, doesnt absolve the guilt of Iranian leaders lying. The fact that FOX news is one big lying machine, doesnt lessen to any degree my hatred for IRIB. The fact that we have bad drivers here, doesnt acquit the idiotic road rage culture in Iran, that has put Iran on top of the world, in driving fatalities. The fact that we have rednecks here, doesnt let me be angry and hard on Iranians who treat the Afghan refugees like a piece of turd. Midooni chi migam?

See, Niloufar may actually be right. America may fall from its position after all, and collapse from political eminence. You can easily see such a fate looming, just by looking at the sense of self-entitlement that College kids here display. They act like they deserve everything, yet they are totally oblivious of the fact that America's way of life today is largely built on hard working Americans in the 50s and 60s. They buitl this country as it is today. With all the hatred going around in politics, I wouldnt be surprised if America even disintegrated 20 yrs from now, and broke up into red and blue states. If America falls, well, it's their own doing. Maybe next time theyll sit down and think a bit about why is it dangerous to let Capitalism infringe on individual rights. Maybe theyll think twice next time, before jumping on the bandwagon, and badmouting Obama, simply for inheriting Bush's fiasco. Maybe theyll think twice next time (if there is a next time), about why is having a government healthcare plan, actually not bad at all. Maybe "Socialism" isnt that dirty of a word. If Japan, and Germany and Norway and France are doing it, well, maybe having a govt option in healthcare isnt gonna kill grandma.

But that's all beside the point, you see. Whatever happens in America and by America, isnt going to lessen my anger on what happens in Iran. See, I dont want to go looking around 15 yrs from now, trying to find a school here that teaches Persian culture and language, and yet isnt overly religious up Khamenei's ass. I dont want my kid to become a "second-generation Iranian American", who can barely read and write Farsi. How can u not be an Iranian descendant, and not know how to appreciate Nezami's Siyasat Nameh, e.g.? How can you raise your kid here to grow up and appreciate Javad Maroufi, instead of Beyonce, and yet, not feel like a constant suspect because he's of middle eastern heritage with colored skin? See, then, You either end up having your offspring losing their identity altogether in 1-2 generations, or you help the Iranian homeland open up to progress and pluralist secularism, so we dont have to be scared about being an Iranian and American.

2) How many idiots are out there. From what I understand, you view Iran's situation as a bunch of dictators ruling the innocent masses. I see it more as a civil war, a social schism, with Islamists having the upper hand, and fucking up everything to the very end, driving the progressive secular minority further and further into extinction. Kinda like the Blue and Red here. Look at people in Iran now. Most people actually believe that Israel is Iran's enemy, while the opposite is in fact true. How many ppl in Iran actually know of the doctrine of the periphery? How many people agree that Iran and Israel essentially have the same interests? It's the Arabs that dont want the Adjam. 

3) Why all the negative shock therapy. Hiding our faults isnt going to help anything. Knowing is half the battle. Once we know and accept our own weaknesses, then deciding the proper course of action is easy. For now, the only thing we can do, is show everyone what a folly political Islam is. Once Iranians have the will to stand up and demand the separation of religion from politics sending Rohaniyat back to their Hojreh, then we can start talking about actual and practical steps of progress. Yes, at that time, you wont see me here anymore. I'll be in Iran probably working in some healthcare managerial position, or in a hospital supervising trainees or something. Im sure you would too.

Of course you r my friend. Take care.

Fesenjoon

Thanks for the explanations. I really think we are more or less on the same page.

Are there idiots in Iran? Sure, there always were and still are. Education is one way to reduce thier numbers but there will always be some. In fact how did we ever allow Alexander or Arabs to conquer us? By division born out of poor choices. My main argument has been that this is human nature. The reason I bring up Tea Party is to show how it happens everywhere. Beleive me, I would be delighted to move back to Iran and forget the whole Tea Party and related stupidities. I just do not want to live under an Islamist theocracy/ that my own generation so stupidly brought to power.

Regarding the achievements you show in your links: those people are not gone. We still have people capable of doing it. But They for most part had to run away to the West. Because ignorance and evil of Islam have left no room for them in Iran. Will they go back? I hope so. But it takes the removal of Islamists for it to happen. Will it take generations? I don't know.

I suspect we have the same goals. Your friend: VPK

btw VPK

Yes,

We probably had more morons during the revolution than we do now (percentage-wise), nevertheless the khayeh-lees idiots are still way too numerous today. If it werent for people like Nasreen Sotoodeh, Mehrangiz Kar, Shirin Ebadi, Mohammad Mostafaei, et al, I would have totally lost all hope. And yet still, I strongly remain a pessimist. Not because I want to. But because like I said earlier: This regime will outlive us all, and the only reason I say this, is because Ive seen how far deep the tumor has metastasized.

It will take several generations for Iran to rise back up from the ashes.

Iran may be a sinking ship today, full of ideologically brainwashed idiots, but each time I listen to silent masterpieces like this or this erode in the desolate wind, or read the words of wisdom of the likes of Abu Reihan or Abu Saeed AbolKheir, I find comfort knowing that we did have one fuckin proud civilization once upon a time.

And if we had it in us before, it can happen again. Maybe not today. But somewhere in the future? Hell yeah. This kind of wisdom and heritage doesnt die easy, no matter how many stupid people flock to Jamkaran or Khomeini's glittering shrine to pay lip service to this retarded hokoomat and its values.

I hope we're on the same frequency now.

VPK

Yes. I dont mean every single Iranian soul. Not in this blog, not in any other blog. That's why I put a disclaimer post at the bottom of this thread, and a large "*" footnote at the bottom (and top) of the "Iranian idiots" blog.

What more can I do to make you see them?

YES

Iranians are liars, but so are Americans, British, French, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, ......... add 160-70 more......and Kenyans.

We're one great, big family of liars ;)

Ofcourse I never lie !  REALLY  Beh Hazrate Abbas

deh deh deh

Ma ye sanye roomono bargardondim o Mokafat be pa shod???:(((

Parthian as class boro biroon. VPK. pasho baghale divar vasa Ye pato hava kon. Fesenjoon. Ye rooz mamnoo ol blog mishi. Daha! 

Aghayoon baba. shabe Jomass. Bereed ye fas bezanid... I mean Nabat o Chayi :)) hal konid.

Bikhial baa. Ye much vas hamatoon..aa a. Booosss. (ye vaght fekra bad bad nakonida)

Mokhlese hamegi. ezat ziad.

Yes, like Iranians are the only people who lie in the world

And none else does, infact, everybody else is a saint. Hell, let's just kill ourselves cause we lied. 

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

Fesenjoon

You asked for it. America the degenerate is coming. :)

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"They are not afraid of the ideology alone, but of the detemination and will of the men behind it"

Fesenjoon jan

Bebakhshid nemikham ke be paye shoma bepicham ya bazporsi konam. 

Moteasefam ke ba shoma in gadar bad raftari shod dar Iran. Bahs ham nemikham bekonam. Har kasi hagh dareh ke agideye khodesho dashteh basheh.

Vali shoma ba tamame Irani ha dava nadashteh bash. Kheli ham adameh begonah vojood dareh.

Be nazareh man mardomeh si sal pish az mardome hala ahmag tar boodand. An ha "engelab" kardand va ridand be heykaleh Iran. Tagsierh bishtar gardaneh on nasl hast na bad bakht ha yi ke dar in si sal be donya omadand.

VPK 

VPK joon

وی پی کی

آقاجون، تو چرا اینقدر به پر و پاچهٔ من می‌پیچی؟ خداوکیلی کار دیگه‌ای نداری؟ آخه به تو چه که من چی‌چی دوست دارم بگم؟ تراخدا بیخیالِ این ادا و اصولِ امر به معروف و نهی از منکر شو. یک عمری توی ایران چوب تو آستینمون کردن که چرا اینو گفتی، چرا اینو پوشیدی، چرا اینجوری هستی؟ حالا اینجا گیر منکراتچی های ایرانین دات کام افتادیم. زکی

اصلا گیریم من دلم میخواد صُب تا شوم از ایران شکوه و شکایت کنم. گیریم اصلا سی ساله توی ایران زدن توی سرم، عقده جمع شده، حالا میخوام اینجا بریزم بیرون. بهت بر میخوره؟ خوشت نمیاد؟ خب عزیزم برو یه جا دیگه. کسی که جلوتو نگرفته که. مملکت اینجا آزاده. برو توی بلاگ خودت چپ و راست از ایران حرفهای آبرومندانه بزن و مثل آخوندا هشت تا هشت تا هندونه بذار زیر بغل خودت که ما خیلی کولاکیم و آمریکاییها فاسد و مفلس و بدبختند

من مثل تو نیستم. من یکی اینقدر توی ایران بدی و کثافت کاری دیدم که یک صد سالی طول میکشه که از اینکه ایرانی هستم کمی احساس آبرو و افتخار کنم. مقصر هم فقط رژیم نیست. مردم هم تقصیر داشتند و دارند. آخوندا را باید از تخم دار بزنند که همه را شستشوی مغزی دادند (ثانیه چهلم به بعدش را ببین)، اما مردم هم این وسط بی گناه نیستند. و من از این موضوع اصلا نمی‌گذرم. اگر حماقت قشر قابل توجهی از جامعهٔ خایه‌مال و کس‌شعر باف ایرانی نبود (دقیقه چهارم به بعدش را ببین)، اون آخوندهای بی‌شرف جرات نمی‌کردند اینطور بشاشند به فرهنگ و هویت ایران‌زمین

نه آقا جون. برای من مهم نیست که احمق‌های تی پارتی یا سارا پیلین یا وال استریت اینجا چه غلطی میکنن. برای من احمق‌های ایران مد نظرند. شیرفهم شدی؟ حالا برو به کارای مثبتی که هی میگی، و دادن راه حل‌های اساسیت برس. ما نفرین شدگان نسل سوختهٔ انقلاب را ول کن به حال خودمون