Musings of a former chicken

Hands off my dear pal Darius Kadivar

He is simply the best enchanting member of our community. Who else can bring so much information punctuated by fun and humour to this otherwise doom and gloom website?

By the way, Sabtei IS inncoent UNTIL proven otherwise. 

Concur,

and good night.

MG

cheers to you too. as far as the rest of your comment, i try to be a forward klooking person. i belive entities like tudeh and jebhe meli and few others are either irrele vantt in current situation or close to it. as such, i think priority should be given to discussions such as role of reformists, situation of iranian working class, effect of sanctions, and many other pressing issues. we really show our ages when we obsess about tudeh and jebhe melli. iran has a young population and they don't concern themselves with these parties which belong to iran's past. let's focus on future. 

Throwing stones in a glass house, and then some! (II)

Everyone so intresteed in my real name has sent me e-mails & by now they all know exactly who I am, where I live and what I do. Furthermore we've  actually  met in person. I'll be meeting  a few more people from IC readers for Noroz, this year. That's for my side.

As far as you're concerned, on the blunt side: do you and your 'comrades' have an iota of remorse over all the help and assistance you've given to Islamic Republic of Hell in their crimes against humanity?

Have you ever gathered the courage and the integrity to face up to all the treachery Tudeh has done while it was dancing to the Emam's Line?

What is the difference between white washing and helping with the crimes of monarchy and  white washing and helping with the crimes of mullahs. Not a damn thing. In the real world this is called honesty and accountability. Cheers

MG, let me be blunt

You are slowly turning into a cyber bully. Months ago, you used to translate working class poems.  Now you pride yourself to be an attack dog. Even though I sometimes still admire your defense of working class and opposition to Shah, but i find the tone of your comments show that you have changed into a know it all who is suffocating. You are probably the source of few people not wanting to get involved in political discussions on this site. I am not into giving brownie ponts. I opposed shah and I still believe during his time, he used torture. However, I also believe that you are becoming like a mini dictator on IC.

In the same comment thread that you called me and another person disgusting, you wrote that we did not have courage. How can someone who is not brave enough to use his real name tell me that I don't have courage. I find that very funny.

Throwing stones in a glass house, and then some!

In my humble opinion, even after all these years (since the evaporation of USSR) I still find spying for KGB, and defending such low life acts (not to mention teaching mullahs all their tricks)  pretty disgusting.

It's as disgusting as attempting to white wash torture of political prisoners during shah's time.

Just how obtuse and low  can you get, when you laugh at Arasi's comment and blatently state that: "he deserved to be tortured, and he still hasn't learned his lessons," or, to saying that it wasn't really torture but just rough interrogations. It really should not be surprising if we find out later that some fo these "commentators" were SAVAKi agents themselves.

But then again in the little IC world of giving   brownie points to discredited monarchists, so they give  brownie points, in exchange, to discredited Stalinists, such white washing, and being utterly oblivious to historical facts concerning the treachery of monarchy and stalinists in Iran is called 'proper etiquette,' and 'civility.'

Needless to say what your humble servant, I, thinks should be done with such mannerism. It involves bodily liquids from the lower stratums. Cheers  

I did learn from DK's comment

about how marxists viewed the post world war 2 government in Germany. I just wanted to state that if you are directly discussing a subject with DK, his comments may upset you but there is educational value in them. Not all readers participate in these online comment exchanges so consider that aspect too. Besides, you guys are not perfect, One of you the other day when confronted by opposing comments, flat out wrote:"you guys disgust me". So don't throw stone from a glass house.

Technically speaking DK's "interventions"are not really commnets

per se!

Most often, if not always, it's one liners followed by tons of related and mostly unrelated videos, or "copy & paste"  from British press. Ending with LOL!!!!!

On the positive side, such a hodge podge, deserves a name of its own, just not sure what to call it!

On the real substantial side, Sabeti's apperance after three decades, seems to have backfired on him and his camp, Monarchists, VOA,... and shown all of us that, for the most part, at least in the field of Human Rights and accountability, most of us have learned our lessons. Cheers

اگر کدیور یک کامنت دیگر بگذارد من جیغ می زنم

من گوشهایش را می گیرم و پشت هم جیغ می زنم.

And I dare say they probably were Brutally interrogated

And For Good Reason ...

Scenes including Brutal interrogation by German Police of the Terrorist Groupe from the German Oscar Nominated Movie The Baader Meinhoff Komplex (2009): 

Related Blogs:

SAVAK DEMYSTIFIED: Andisheh TV interview with Researcher Erfan Ghaeni Fard

VOA’s OFOGH: The Inception and history of SAVAK debated

SAVAK DEMYSTIFIED: Former Officer Speaks on Shah's Notorious Secret Police

Baader Meinhof also claimed to have been tortured (Daily Mirror)

Clowns of Terror by Michael BURLEIGH

The Baader-Meinhof story is a chilling lesson in the appeasement of terrorism by a Left-wing consensus so blinded by ideology that it glosses over horrendous crimes in support of its cause.

These terrorists were the lethal face of the radical generation who went on to occupy the heights of the liberal establishment across the western world.

In Britain, the Left-leaning universities, the arts, the BBC, and many more institutions are still dominated by survivors of an era whose ideologies - a disrespect for authority, contempt for the family unit, an emphasis on human rights not responsibilities - permeate every facet of our lives 40 years on.

The group originated amid an international wave of student militancy which was strong in Germany, where spoiled middle-class kids revolted against parents who had arduously rebuilt the country from wartime rubble.

They wanted a Marxist revolution, claiming that Germany's democracy was really a "Fascist" state perpetuated by surviving members of the Nazi party. Anyone who did not agree with them was shouted down as a "Nazi".

Never mind that real German workers wanted a Volkswagen, holidays in Torremolinos, and new kitchens - ambitions which idle student Leftists despised. Or that real workers knew about communism - their relatives lived under it in a police state across the Berlin Wall - and had no time for the views of drug-fuelled layabouts.

The Baader-Meinhof myth was born inside Stammheim prison. Leftwing sympathisers, including the country's most prominent writers and intellectuals, maintained that they were being tortured in appalling conditions. Stammheim was "like Auschwitz", they absurdly claimed.

Celebrities, like the novelist Heinrich B?ll and the French philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre, were wheeled in to dramatise their plight. Although the aged Frenchman privately observed "what an a***hole" after being lectured by Baader in the jail's spartan visitors' suite, on live German TV he lied: "Baader has the face of a tortured man."

Sartre claimed the terrorists were being kept in blindingly white minimalist cells to disorientate them.

Clowns of terror: The Baader Meinhof gang were hopelessly and incompetent befuddled by drugs and casual-sex by Michael BURLEIGH

Only if YOU Jomhurykhahs come out clear too

For the Crimes commited by YOUR Republic ...

HISTORY OF VIOLENCE: IRI's Reign of Terror Begins (BBC Report 1979)

JAVIDAN: Shah's Imperial Guard dies during an attack by Khomeini guerillas (1979)

JAVIDAN: Farokhroo Pārsā (1922-1980)

JAVIDAN: Fereydoon Farrokhzad (1935-1992)

JAVIDAN: Generals Ayat Mohagheghi and Mehdi Rahimi 

And No Silly Excuses like Oh this was not "Our" Revolution,  or "Our" Revolution was "Highjacked" ...

You have as much Blood on your conscience as those you are pointing an accusatory finger at because YOU gave the Mullahs the Legitimacy to act as they did !

Related:

pictory: Bakhtiar Denounces Bazargan's Provisionary Government in exile (1979) 

ROYAL ACCOUNTABILITY: Crown Prince Reza on Torture During His Father's Rule 

RP must come clear

If RP has anything to do with this vile criminal then he should certainly be ignored by all Iranians as an opportunistic person who is only there to serve his own interests. This however needs verification by him.

Fred,

Sabeti is nothing but another Ghazi Mortazavi or Ghazi Salavati. His comments are as truthful as Radan or Naqdi's comments after IRI. If you are a high ranking official in an organisation that uses the torture as a tool then you are a torturer. You won’t get up there for your maths and literature skills.

If you want to frame Arasi as someone who is against a fair trial by using that one sentence in the interview, then you are wasting your time. His position on these matters is well known to many Iranians. I however doubt that Sabeti would turn up for a court hearing in Iran (unless they appoint you as the judge).

Cry me a River ;0)

The Cry Wolves!

"Based on the available documents and witnesses, I have little doubt that Mr. Sabeti would be found guilty in an impartial
judicial proceeding; however, prior to that proceeding, Mr. Sabeti has to be presumed innocent."

Yes, Yes, Yes! He has been innocent since his birth! Such a fair assesment of him, Your Honor!

But time is short, Your Royal Majesty. As PSabeti, FRousta, BMoshiri, and their alike soon are going to join their master SBee-mokh, in you know where Your Honor!  

Abdolkarim Soroush as a "victim!"

It is unfortunate that Mr. Arasi who is seeking justice, decides to bring up the name of Abdolkarim Soroush (minute: 30:25) and present him as a victim.

Soroush has shown no remorse with regards to the crimes he committed as the mastermind of the so-called, "Cultural Revolution." He is on record proudly talking about and defending the "achievements" of the "Cultural Revolution."

MG Jan YES that is Quite Possible ;0))

OSS 117 - Jean Dujardin - Laughs

Although I Essentially Operated For SAVAK's International Bureau

OSS 117: Cairo, Nest of Spies - Trailer

LOL 

DK, if you laugh like a SAVAKi, and write like a SAVAKi,could it

be because: YOU ARE A SAVAKi?

Or at least a SAVAKi at heart?

Azarbanoo

The point was to highlight the vital need for the rule of law to replace the current predisposition to bypass it, and to make decisions based on facts and not rumors. 

Based on the available documents and witnesses, I have
little doubt that Mr. Sabeti would be found guilty in an impartial judicial proceeding; however, prior to that proceeding, Mr. Sabeti has to be presumed innocent.  

What makes Arasi Credible

This is the case of he said , she said, besides what makes Arasi a credible witness?

Terrorist groups themselves used lots od deception tactics in recruiting and also gave wrong info  to  authority to make sure the recruit never ever get a chance to think of return to normal and productive life.

Sabeti's word is as good as Arasi's words.

To me  the opposition groups are responsible for the death and suffering since 1979 revolution.

How come, none of them get tried for treason and promoting  and establishing a criminal regime?

LOL anglophile Jan ;0)

Monty Python - Spanish Inquisition Torture Scene

Related:

ارسی دروغ میگه شکنجه شده وگرنه تا حالا "آدم" شده بود

Daily Farah's Blogs?

Daily musings of an old chicken fond of Reza & the master criminal of them all Sabeti? Hummmm!

If this blogger astrays like Farah, writes like Farah, reasons like Farah, then she must be Farah Pahlavi herself!

If that is the catch, hurry up then old chick, write more BS then, make it 10 times a day, not much time left on your hands! Hurry up!

Fred, I disagree with you this time

Arasi himself is a witness what Mr. Sabeti has  done to him.  Mr. Arasi just asking RP to explain his relationship with Sabeti.  That is all!  RP is asking for support of IRANIANS and Iranians are entitled to the facts whether RP is working with an ex-criminal of his father or not.

Fred

You make no sense as usual. Please explain???????????