Bah'i cult

Fred
by Fred
22-Nov-2010
 

Mr. Islamist Rapist Human rights speaking on the rights ex-Bahai “cult” have in IRR, the Islamist Rapist Republic.

“People can ge in, but can’t get out “ of this cult.

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nadeem khan

Very well said Aryana.

by nadeem khan on

I agree with you.


Aryana-Vaeja

Reading Ya-Sin into the ears of 'Martijn'

by Aryana-Vaeja on

Suing rival communities for trademark infringement (as if a religion or ideology is a product) in the attempt to drive them out of existence, is a dirty tactic and strategy. Whitewashing, rewriting and re-imagining the collective memory in order to project your own triumphalistic narratives as truth (when they are not), is a dirty tactic and strategy. Interfering in the personal lives of individuals who break away from your organization and even denounce its abuses, is a dirty tactic and strategy. Brazenly monopolizing the human rights agenda and by so doing overshadowing the concerns of other communities, is a dirty tactic and strategy, ad nauseum. Such behavior is also on a different scale no different from what the Islamic republic itself does or any other abusive organization does which a future Iran can do well without.

The single-minded aggressive zealotry of your organization and its tactical strategies culled from the scripts of the worst gutter alleys of thuggery are now a matter of wide public record. Thankfully in its own myopic arrogance when pushing the US NSA to sue the OBF and BUPC for trademark infringement, it did not occur to the uhj that it could lose and by losing hammer a nail in its own longterm political coffin. In other words your Haifan administrative order was handed a rope by which it hanged itself with publicly proving to the world in the process that the swan songs and violin melodies regarding your community's meekness are not to be taken at face value because you are no different in your zealot fanaticism as any other organization of similar scope. But also thankfully, as a result of its mind boggling stupidity that has made your community lose face, the playing field has now been leveled out allowing alternative Bahai communities to play equally on the religious market as you have been. Things have now changed forever in that regard!

Given this - and you are welcome to circle your wagons as much as you like, play dumb and feign the role of perpetual victim yet again - , indeed, if your specific Haifan organization exhibits in the post-IR Iran the same kind of malicious behavior and brazen arrogance that just got an entire chicken coup full of eggs landed on its face in two US courts, expect a massive backlash from other communities against yours. It is very simple. You are as such put on notice to clean up your act or face the music in other ways when the mullahs are finally gone should you have not learned your lesson here and so continue as before. QED 

May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Yasna XXX 9


Martijn Rep

Dear Aryana

by Martijn Rep on

"If you Haifan Bahais pursue the sort of dirty and
dishonest strategy with other communities that just lost you an appeals
case in the United States, in a free Iran a massive backlash awaits your
community."

What was so dirty and dishonest in the treatment of other communities?

... any
backlash as a result of your community's dirty tactic triumphalism will
be targetted exclusively at you and not the other Bahai communities in
IRAN,

Again, in what way was the bahai community's 'tactic' so 'dirty' that you expect a 'backlash'?

To Nadeem's list I would also add the Iranian Zoroastrian community (who
by and large dislike the Bahais) and the Sufis. You are on notice.

So the Zoroastrians and Sufi's are also eager to ... (attack, denounce, persecute, get back at?) the baha'is, first of course making sure that they only target 'haifan' baha'is and not the innocent (but surely also misguided?) other groups that are now gaining adherents in Iran?

Take care, Martijn


Martijn Rep

"We await a free Iran. But

by Martijn Rep on


"We await a free Iran. But I am really worried about Baha'is ... If Iranin Government fells, I am worried this Hizbollahis, Basijis,
Hardcore Islamists will not leave these 'peaceful / non-political'
Baha'is."

The fact that you're worried means you feel some sympathy for these people despite that you appear to believe they either misguided or shameful, dishonest etc.. You have a good heart.

"They know the role of UHJ in destabilising Iran. It is a very
clear fact. One can read from the special messages of Haifan UHJ to
persian believers (members)."

What do you mean by 'destabilizing'? Undermining faith in the current system of governance or leaders? It seems the current leadership of Iran is much better at this.

Even Zoroastrians cannot forget their deceptive  conversion ... The Jew Baha'is have already started to disobey the orders of Haifan UHJ ... The various sects, the trademarks system, registering Baha'i Religion in
various countries under the Companies Act, Shunning, groupism, racism,
power for positions, Providing false statistics, election scams,
divorces, financial scams are some of the diseases in the "New Religion
of Imam-i-Zaman".
These so called followers of Imam-i-Zaman are now getting so weaker. In a
span of 165 years of coming of Imam-i-Zaman. Majority of the world does
not even know the name of Imam-i-zaman

Wow, so the bahai faith is already falling apart. So why spending all this time on Iranian.com denouncing anything related to the bahai faith (well ... not everything)? To speed things up?


So the facts are clear.

You use the term 'fact' quite loosely for a collection of allegations combined with a spotlight on immaturity of some members and institutions.

More persecution may be awaiting for you. Iranianis don't want to become fools anymore.

Above you mention that you worry about persecution by 'Hizbollahis, Basijis,
Hardcore Islamists'.
Are they they ones that don't want to become fools anymore or are you now referring to another section of the iranian population that can't wait to persecute bahais once they get the chance?


I pray to Allah for you Haifans that He keep you in peace in Islamic
Iran and elsewhere so that you can practice your so called religion in
peace.

This is a noble act. God bless you.


faryarm

مصاحبۀ محمد جواد لاریجانی و توجیه آزار بهائیان

faryarm



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مصاحبۀ محمد جواد لاریجانی و توجیه آزار بهائیان

کاویان صادق زاده میلانی

«قوۀ محرک سیاست قدرت است و عدالت شاید بتواند آن را کم و بیش تعدیل کند. از این رو قدرت برای نیل به هدف تظاهر به عدل و انصاف می کند. در اندیشیدن پیرامون حقوق بشر باید آنچه را که لازمۀ عدالت است را از مطالبات قدرت تمیز دهیم.»

-مایکل فریمن در حقوق بشر: آسیا و غرب.

حقوق بشر پدیده ای است که هدف غایی آن برقراری عدالت است. ساختارهای کنونی سیاسی و اقتصادی در انحصار قدرت ها است. بین عدالت و قدرت تنشی نهادی است. یکی از روشهای قدرت برای نقض حقوق بشر و تداوم ساختارهای ناسالم همین تظاهر قدرت به عدل و انصاف است که به عنوان ابزار خود را جانشین عدل می کند و برای عدل سخن می گوید. یک نمونه تلاش قدرت برای توجیه نقض حقوق بشر سخنان اخیر آقای لاریجانی است.


در مصاحبه ای که اخیرا در یوتیوب دیده شد آقای محمد جواد لاریجانی برای توجیه ظلم و ستمی که سی سال است بر بهائیان ایران روا می رود گفتند که دلیل آزار بهائیان این است که بهائیان فرقه هستند و این فرقه اجازه خروج به پیروان تواب را نمی دهد. یعنی فرقه ای است که می توان وارد آن شد و نمی توان از آن خارج شد.


 

مصاحبه در لینک زیر قابل رویت است:

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhF2LkSfb6k&feature=player_embedded

لاریجانی می گوید که بهائیت دین نیست و فرقه است. می توان داخل این گروه شد ولی نمی توان خارج از آن شد.

توجیه آزار دگراندیشان دینی و نقض حقوق بشر با توجیهی مشابه ابتکار دولت ایران نیست و شوربختانه این ترفند را دولتهای بسیاری به کار برده اند. البته امری پسندیده تر از گناه را بر گردن قربانی انداختن نیست. زنی که مورد خشونت مرد قرار می گیرد البته حتما ً کاری کرده که مستحق ضرب و شتم است.  در این مورد بخصوص این توجیه نقض حقوق بشر را آقای لاریجانی از دولت چین عاریت گرفته اند. این مشخص است که دین بهائی یک دین مستقل است و فرقه نیست و مرام آقای لاریجانی که شیعۀ دوازده امامی، از مکتب فقهی اصولی و معتقد به ولایت مطلقۀ فقیه هستند از قضا زیرمجموعه ای از یک زیرمجموعه از یک فرقۀ شیعه که خود فرقه ای از فرق دین اسلام است می باشد. البته گفتار ایشان به درجه ای غیر علمی و غیر منطقی است که نیازی به پاسخ گفتن ندارد. یعنی برفرض درست بودن ادعاهای ایشان بايد پرسید که چرا دانشجویان بهائی محروم از تحصیل هستند و چرا جامعۀ بهائی حق داشتن رسانه رسمی و تشکیلات رسمی را ندارد و چرا مدیران جامعۀ بهائی نزدیک به دو سال بدون دسترسی به وکیل و پرونده و خارج از عرف قانون کیفری در زندان نگاه داشته شدند و چگونه است که قبرستانهای بهائیان تخریب می شود و توجیه حاکمیت برای فشار بر دانش آموزان بهائی برای اسلام آوردن با چه برهانی توجیه می شود؟

نکتۀ یکم البته که هر ناظر بی طرفی می داند که بیرون رفتن از جامعۀ بهائی کاری ندارد و در ایران اسلامی خروج از دین بهائی و اسلام آوردن موجب بازگشت حق تحصیل و حق داشتن شغل دولتی و حق داشتن کار ازاد با فراغت و صدها آزادی مدنی دیگر است و اگر بهائیان بهائی مانده اند، به دلیل باور قلبی آنان به آموزه های روحانی بهاءالله و آموزه های اجتماعی او مانند وحدت عالم انسانی و تساوی حقوق زن و مرد و اعتقاد به لزوم نفی خشونت و زدودن فقر فاحش از جامعه و دیگر باورهای عرفانی و اجتماعی است. پس در این مورد نیز خطا از حاکمیتی است که مردم را می خواهد با تحمیل زور و فشار از دین و باور وجدانی برگرداند.

از قضا دین بهائی ارتداد ندارد و اسلامی که آقای لاریجانی به آن معتقد است حکم ارتداد و ردة دارد. یعنی کسی که مسلمان زاده باشد و تغییر دین دهد بسته به پیشینه خانوادگی و دینی یا مرتد فطری یا مرتد ملی است و خونش حلال و مباح است. یعنی اگر کسی از دین بهائی خارج بشود جان و روان و امنیتش تضمین است ولی مسلمان زاده ای که بهائی بشود حکمش اعدام است. حال قضاوت را به هموطنان می سپارم: کدام گروه دینی است که خروج از آن راحت باشد؟ و کدام فرقه است که خارج شده و برگشته از آن سرش را از دست می دهد؟

نکتۀ دوم مسالۀ فرقه (کالت) است که آقای لاریجانی از دولت چین و از مسحیان تندرو آمریکا فراگرفته اند. در چین گروهی دینی هستند که همانند بهائیان در ایران تحت فشار سنگین دولت چین قرار دارند. نام این گروه فالون گانگ است.[i] بنیانگزار این گروه لی هونژی[ii] و آموزه های این گروه روحانی تلفیقی برگرفته از ادیان آسیایی بودایی، داویسم، کنفوسیوسی و ادیان بومی چینی است. این گروه بنا بر باور عرفانی به گونۀ دینی ورزش می کنند و با ورزش به پاکی و پاکیزگی عقلی و روانی می رسند. این گروه در سال 1991 به ثبت رسید و در 1999 در چین ممنوع شد و دولت چین به بازداشت سران و سرکوب بی وقفۀ این حرکت عرفانی پرداخته است. توجیه دولت چین از آن سال بعد همین توجیه کنونی اقای لاریجانی است، یعنی اینکه فالون گانگ یک فرقه است. از آن سال به بعد دولت چین با گذراندن لایحه های بیشمار بر این گروه برچسب «فرقۀ شیطانی» زده است و بازداشت و آزار و نقض حقوق بشر اینان را توجیه می کند. صرفنظر از توجیه دولت چین واقعیت این است که در چین با ظهور ادیان تازه و شعب تازه سلسله های پادشاهی منقرض شده اند و علت عمده برخورد امنیتی با فالون گانگ همانا ترس از عدۀ زیاد پیروان این حرکت نوظهور است.

ساختن و پرداختن واژه های تازه با تعاریف تازه و بهره بردن از این تعاریف برای نقض حقوق بشر امر تازه ای نیست. در کنفرانس جهانی چهارم که در سال 1995 در پکن برقرار شد شاهد این بودیم که واژه جنس (ژندر) و خانواده را کلیسای کاتولیک و کشورهای اسلامی با تعاریف خاص خود معرفی کردند و اگر این تعاریف متضمن نقض حقوق بشر دیگران نیز بود باز بر آن پافشاری می شد. تعجبی ندارد اگر دولت ایران اکنون به زدن برچسب با تعریف فرقه (کالت) نقض حقوق بشر و ازادی باور را توجیه می کند. البته زیر بنای چنین توجیهی برای برقراری تبعیضی است که حذف رقیب خیالی را در بر دارد.  

این مستند بی. بی . سی این نظریه را مورد وضعیت فالون گانگ و برخورد دولت چین بررسی می کند:

//www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2922644

این خبر رویتر در مورد وضعیت فالون گانگ در چین و بهائیان در ایران و گزارشگر ویژۀ سازمان ملل در مورد آزادی دین نیز اشاره به این موضوع دارد:

//www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69K61O20101021

کوتاه سخن اینکه اشارات اقای لاریجانی برای توجیه ازار و جفا بر بهائیان اساسا ً تقلیدی برگرفته از روش حساب شدۀ دولت چین در برخورد با گروههای رقیب است. حاکمیت تهران که در نقض حقوق بشرو زیر پا گذاردن تمام موازین حقوق بشر در موارد حقوق مدنی و حقوق سیاسی و حقوق زنان و حقوق کودک و حقوق دانشجویان و حق تحصیل و حق آزادی وجدانی و دین و حقوق اقتصادی و فرهنگی ایرانیان و شکستن تمامی میثاقهای بین المللی حقوق بشری رکورددار هستند، بهتر است که به جای بافتن نظریات کاذب برای توجیه نقض حقوق بشر و سرقت روش از دولت چین، رویکرد تازه ای انتخاب کند و متخلفان نقض حقوق بشر در ایران را بازداشت و رهسپار زندان کند و حقوق مدنی، سیاسی، اجتماعی و فرهنگی ایرانیان را بنابر پیمانهای بین المللی که ایران نیز متعهد به آنها باید باشد ارج نهند و رعایت کنند.



nadeem khan

The Lost Court Case

by nadeem khan on

is a solid slap on the face of Haifan UHJ. Shame on you people.


nadeem khan

Mona19

by nadeem khan on

You have been RUHI'IZED.


Mona 19

Put your own advice into practice ...

by Mona 19 on

Cheating others by playing with their sentiments is wrong. So please be honest.

Mona 


nadeem khan

Aryana Thank you - Other Baha'is please read...

by nadeem khan on

We await a free Iran. But I am really worried about Baha'is.

You see in IRAQ & AFGHANESTAN what is happening. Those who were in power earlier are killing those they hated.

So If Iranin Government fells, I am worried this Hizbollahis, Basijis, Hardcore Islamists will not leave these 'peaceful / non-political' Baha'is. They know the role of UHJ in destabilising Iran. It is a very clear fact. One can read from the special messages of Haifan UHJ to persian believers (members). Indirectly Haifan UHJ is doing a great work for toppling the Islamist government. But the aftermath may not be in favour of you H. Bahais.

Even Zoroastrians cannot forget their deceptive  conversion. Some days ago there was a good article on Iranian.com from DHALLA of Bombay who condemned the deceptive conversion of Indian Zoroastrians some 50 years ago.

The Jew Baha'is have already started to disobey the orders of Haifan UHJ.

See this : //jewbahais.blogspot.com

The various sects, the trademarks system, registering Baha'i Religion in various countries under the Companies Act, Shunning, groupism, racism, power for positions, Providing false statistics, election scams, divorces, financial scams are some of the diseases in the "New Religion of Imam-i-Zaman".

These so called followers of Imam-i-Zaman are now getting so weaker. In a span of 165 years of coming of Imam-i-Zaman. Majority of the world does not even know the name of Imam-i-zaman (Mr. Baha'u'llah? hmmm)? Amazing.

So the facts are clear. More persecution may be awaiting for you. Iranianis don't want to become fools anymore.

I pray to Allah for you Haifans that He keep you in peace in Islamic Iran and elsewhere so that you can practice your so called religion in peace. Everybody is free to practice anything he feels right. But please do not convert anybody deceptively. Tell those kids that these are Baha'i Classes and we are going to convert you slowly, we are going to change your mind to Baha'u'llah. Don't just tell him that these are moral classes, JY empowerment classes, youth classes. Tell him this and this are the problem in our religion, these are various sects, let him read the books of OBF, the claims of BUPC or if he finds some problem in your systems and if he is right please accept them honestly. Cheating others by playing with their sentiments is wrong. So please be honest.

Allah'u'Abho


Aryana-Vaeja

Martijn

by Aryana-Vaeja on

When you write outrageous things like this you risk blowing your cover as a secret bahai (or payed agent) who wants to promote the bahai faith by pretending to be an adversary ;-)

Your peculiar Haifan Bahai psychology of triumphalism might lead you to believe this, but what Nadeem says is true. If you Haifan Bahais pursue the sort of dirty and dishonest strategy with other communities that just lost you an appeals case in the United States, in a free Iran a massive backlash awaits your community. Luckily the fact that there are multiple Bahai communities has now been etched in stone following this appeals decision so any backlash as a result of your community's dirty tactic triumphalism will be targetted exclusively at you and not the other Bahai communities in IRAN, such as the OBF, BUPC, Soghomonian Bahais, Unitarian Bahais and similar (who are beginning to find Iranian adherents).

To Nadeem's list I would also add the Iranian Zoroastrian community (who by and large dislike the Bahais) and the Sufis. You are on notice.

May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Yasna XXX 9


faryarm

nadeem khan

by faryarm on

Name the Azalis in the Islamic Regime...Can you?

or is this another dirty ploy in your Anti Bahai Manual? 


faryarm

HH

by faryarm on

Please dont believe everything you read about Bahais from its enemies.

They have a purpose and an agenda, judging by their relentless urge to lie and decieve the unsuspecting.

 


nadeem khan

Do you know dear Baha'i Friend

by nadeem khan on

That there are many Azalis in this Islamic Regime who are helding higher positions. I am not confirmed but there may be many Azalis behind the persecution of Baha'is. You see dear, the Azalis cannot forget the oppresion done to them by your leaders. Just like you people are awaiting to take avenge by whatever means. Even the Azalis are waiting to avenge whatever done to them by your cultist leaders.

 


Martijn Rep

Dear Nadeem

by Martijn Rep on


You state: "In the future (new) Iran bahais may suffer more by the hands of Sunnis, Sufis, Hojjatiyyih, Azalis, Shi'ites etc. You see all hate this cult. It is better to suffer now by IRI only. Later in Free Iran more persecution is awaiting for you."

 

When you write outrageous things like this you risk blowing your cover as a secret bahai (or payed agent) who wants to promote the bahai faith by pretending to be an adversary ;-)

"am sorry, but I think this way."

If you are truly sorry you would change your thinking, to your own benefit. Take care, Martijn

 


muscle-defender

...

by muscle-defender on

Baha'u'llah's claim stands Independent.


Aryana-Vaeja

You're on candid camera

by Aryana-Vaeja on

Yes, Faryar. You are on candid camera. The joke is all on you.   

May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Yasna XXX 9


HHH

3 Larijani Brothers

by HHH on

So Bahaiis won't allow a Bahaii to leave and convert ha? Hmmmm

I remember one other religion that doesn't allow conversion, in fact it's punishable by death....hmmmm what religion was it??? hmmmm OHHHHHH The Shia-Islam version by the Islamic Republic, now I remember!


faryarm

In the Future (new) Iran Bahá'ís' suffering will be rewarded ...

by faryarm on

 

You see Nadeem Khan, what makes you think you can do, what the last 160 years have been unable to do to Bahá'ís.

In the Future (new) Iran Bahá'íssuffering will be rewarded ...with recogniton for their uncompromising and steadfast belief in a brighter future for Iran and release from tyranny, as promised by Baha'u'llah about the future of His native land and people.

He said: 

     "Let nothing grieve thee, O Land of Tá (Tehrán), for God hath chosen thee to be the source of the joy of all mankind. He shall, if it be His will, bless thy throne with one who will rule with justice, who will gather together the flock of God which the wolves have scattered."

"Such a ruler will, with joy and gladness, turn his face towards, and extend his favors unto, the people of Bahá. He indeed is accounted in the sight of God as a jewel among men. Upon him rest forever the glory of God, and the glory of all that dwell in the kingdom of His Revelation. "

Ere (Before) long will the state of affairs within thee be changed, and the reins of power fall into the hands of the people. Verily, thy Lord is the All-Knowing. His authority embraceth all things. Rest thou assured in the gracious favor of thy Lord. The eye of His loving-kindness shall everlastingly be directed towards thee. The day is approaching when thy agitation will have been transmuted into peace and quiet calm. Thus hath it been decreed in the wondrous Book. --

Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá'u'lláh, pp. 110-111. 

//reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/GWB/gwb-56.html

 


nadeem khan

In the future (new) Iran Baha'is may suffer more.

by nadeem khan on

by the hands of Sunnis, Sufis, Hojjatiyyih, Azalis, Shi'ites etc.

You see all hate this cult.

It is better to suffer now by IRI only.

Later in Free Iran more persecution is awaiting for you.

I am sorry, but I think this way.


faryarm

Can you explain why Khomeini chose a Baha'i legal counsel ?

by faryarm on

Aryana: 

"Can you explain why Khomeini chose a Baha'i legal counsel and not a Muslim one at that time?"

People will often do anything to save themselves! in this case Khomeini :)

If this is indeed true, Yes, because when it came to saving himself , even though Khomeini was very vocal about his hate for Bahais; He, Khomeini must had more trust in a Bahai to represent him in court, just as the Shah , despite his now exposed order to destroy the Bahai Center in 1955, chose to trust a Bahai doctor by his side for most of his life.

There were many others who distinguished themselves as honest brokers.

See Abbas Milani's Eminent Persians. 

 


faryarm

"Irrefutable historical linkages "?

by faryarm on

 

"Irrefutable historical linkages are never baseless because they are documented and irrefutable as a link, not to mention they are part and parcel of a solid historical narrative..."  aryana aka nima hazini, wahid azal

"Irrefutable "? by you  Aryana? Nima Hazini ? Wahid Azal ? NUR ? and the once self proclaimed "saviour"?

"linkages" ? by you ?

"documented" by who? You again? Azalis? Mullahs?

"solid historical narrative.." by whose estimation and research ? you again "aryana" ? Azalis again? The Mullahs? The Islamic Republic? Hojjatiyyih? 

 

 

 


faryarm

If the Bahai Faith is a conspiracy...

by faryarm on

Let History Judge...

If the Bahai Faith is a conspiracy and is based on anything but the truth, it should  have died and disappeared  after the death of its founders; and never ever reached other parts of the world, with the kind of following and devotion by so many people of different nations and races.

Further, its followers would never have sacrificed so much including their lives to stand in the face of the kind of cruelty , that the rest of the Iranian nation is now witnessing.

This effort to portray the Bahai Faith as a sect ridden community is nothing but the desperate effort of literally  a few, who have made a career out of writing paragraphs of total nonsense.

Judging by their daily output here and elsewhere, these unhappy characters have no normal life; their entire time spent in front a computer coming up with outlandish conspiracies.

Often alienated from their own friends and family, they have nothing but anger and vengeance for their own actions and shortcomings; one does not need a psychology degree to make that distinction, as many regular IRC readers have surmised in the last two years.

 


Aryana-Vaeja

On the contrary, Mr Najafi

by Aryana-Vaeja on

Irrefutable historical linkages are never baseless because they are documented and irrefutable as a link, not to mention they are part and parcel of a solid historical narrative which cannot be dismissed as nonchalatantly as you are dismissing it. That you are doing so proves you to be an interested party (possibly some kind of paid lobbyist for the Haifan Bahai organization) in which case your words are completely worthless all around. 

There were lawyers besides Baha'i ones working in Iran of the 1960s. But because of Khomeini's close friendship and association with Abdul-Hamid Ishraq-Khavari (who was an Iranian Bahai leader and longstanding member of the National Spiritual Assembly of Iran) the lawyer sent to deliver Khomeini's chest-nuts out of the fire of his treason against the Shah and the state during the White Revolution was a Baha'i, and not a Muslim, Zoroastrian, Jew or whatever. Can you explain why Khomeini chose a Baha'i legal counsel and not a Muslim one at that time?

All the other items posted are also irrefutable. The label "conspiracy theory" is a slur labeled by interested folks such as yourself who are incapable under normal circumstances in addressing uncomfortable but irrefutable facts because you are the ones (and not us "conspiracy theorists") actually spreading misinformation and disinformation on behalf of the interests they are connected to. Since the Haifan Bahai organization is highly connected these days to those Anglo-American foundations, think-tanks, lobbyists and political action committees who are planning to socially engineer a post-mullocratic Iran with the Haifan Bahais as the newly annointed ideological force for Iran - this, as opposed to allowing a natural post-mullocratic Iran to emerge or other communities such as the Zoroastrians or Sufis to take the charge on the religious front - it makes sense why persons such as you would be wheeled out here to beat their chests for an organization such as this.

But answer this: whereas the 7 Bahai leaders of the Yaran have had their sentences commuted, the 23 sentenced Gonabadi dervishes could face hanging very shortly. Can you explain for us please how it is that representatives of an organization whom the IRI officially deems to be spies for Israel and ideologically heretics get their sentences commuted (and are living relatively umolested as compared to other prisoners of conscience) while Sufi Muslims might be facing death shortly? In a scenario like this one there is no question anymore to any objective observer that the Haifan Bahai organization and the regime have their hands deep inside each others pockets on the highest of levels! 

PS - Please note that I have just been informed by attorneys for one of the parties that the US Federal Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit has just ruled against the appeal brought by the Haifan Bahai National Spiritual Assembly of the United States in the suit they lost in Illinois in 2008 which they had brought against the Orthodox Bahai community and the Baha'is Under the Provisions of the Covenant. As of right now, two US courts have found the attempts by the Haifan Bahai organization to drive out rival groups to be unconstitutional. FYI

May we be amongst those who are to bring about the transfiguration of the Earth - Yasna XXX 9


Martijn Rep

Conspiracy

by Martijn Rep on

Faryarm, these people just pretend to be anti-bahai. In fact they are in the same conspiracy as bahais, promoting the bahai faith by opposing it with rediculous allegations. Just like to government of Iran who just pretends to be anti-bahai but in fact promotes it by first killing and then imprisoning and harassing bahais and destroying their cemetaries so that the bahai international community can draw attention to the faith. The splinter-groups are also pretenders who are probably paid by the 'haifan' bahais to oppose them. In fact anyone who appears to oppose or support the bahais is in fact a bahai, even (or especially) when they deny it. Do you see the logic? Oh, of course, you are also in this conspiracy. And me as well.


faryarm

Their Words, Agenda in the end Betrays them..

by faryarm on

Dear Friends,

It does not take long for those with a personal agenda, or otherwise in the case of systematic  Anti Bahai Campaign of the IRI to reveal their true face.

In the long run, their words and years of attacks in the end betray them.

How much material by the likes of Aryana (Nima Hazini, WAhid AZAL , NUR) ,as well as another recent arrival and suspect, Nadeem K,  does one need to read, to recognize hate, bias and an impure agenda?

In reality, history has shown that these attacks  have on the whole, have helped introduce the Bahai Faith to a wider audience.

faryarm 

 


Truthseeker9

VPK

by Truthseeker9 on

You say you do not think Aryana is asking for suppression of Bahai. I find your comment disappointing after all the material he has produced on IC under his other avetars. For you to suggest such a thing implies you have read enough of his material and comments to defend him. Or perhaps friendship is clouding your judgment. Perhaps you have not seen his comments where he has  suggested they should be made to leave Iran, and has lied about their level of persecution in Iran on his website.

//wahidazal.blogspot.com/

"... While I am personally no friend to the theocracy of the Ayatollahs in Iran and the Peoples Revolution which they hijacked and betrayed in 1979, as an Iranian nationalist I have found it very troubling over the years that the Baha'i organization's human rights violation claims on closer examination are largely bogus, contrived and often exagerrated. Indeed - other than 200 odd people who were executed by the regime for various crimes of corruption under the previous one (and not due to their religious affiliation, despite what Baha'is say) - it appears that the rulers of the Islamic Republic of Iran have actually gone out of their way to accomodate the Baha'is inside Iran. Baha'is have been left relatively unmolested ..."


Anis Cyrus

moslem leader´s answer to Larijani

by Anis Cyrus on

This islamic leader has already answered and clarified Larijani´s stories. check it;

//iranian.com:80/main/blog/faryarm-36


nadeem khan

So there is one more sect of Baha'is

by nadeem khan on

Atheist Baha'is? Right. Targol.

Allah'u'Abho


nadeem khan

O Targol...

by nadeem khan on

So you are a man of Canadian NSA  ;-)

Doing service of rapist Hossein Danesh a 'Man of God'.

I pray for you even if you are a Haifan Baha'i.

God Bless You.

Allah'u'Abho


Hoshang Targol

Any and all prosecution is unconditionally condemned,

by Hoshang Targol on

why can't we condemn such sick practices and at the same time don't creat an opportunity for IR to take advantage of our differences? That's all.