I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

Re: Crushy

"As for someone like jamshid, ... You're the problem in the world. You and your hate..."

Sure, I, Jamshid, am the source of problems in this world. What an amuzing discovery. You are giving me too much credit here Crushy, or are you just jesting?

Just take a good look at your own deep and passionate hatred towards anything you don't like right here in this site, and I promise you'll discover the meaning of the word hyprocrite.

Re: Q

"... who was trying to say Islam sucks because Islam commands the killing of non-Muslims. After we established that nowhere in the Koran is this mentioned..."

You have established nothing, Q. Koran does specifically command moslems to kill infidels. Do you want me to dig out the verses?

Educate yourself before you speak.

bible, torah, koran

Who are they written by?  MEN.  And all men are fallible.  They ALL promote peace... depending on what verse you're reading that day.  They ALL promote violence... depending on what verse you're reading THAT day.

//hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/koran2.html

Thank God for the internet.  You can probably go online and find articles to dispute this one too. 

Khar said it best:

Let's hope one day humans will eradicate hate just like disease!

Oh Q. I just read Zion's response. No wonder.....

no wonder at all..... why this person is such a train wreck. To hear Zion complain about dogma is just rich. Bless you for having the hoseleh for arguing with a religious wingnut like that. 

As for someone like jamshid, yea, I'm trying to incite hate you nitwit. I'm a giant pacifist and I'm angry about hate in general. But if we go by the logic of your hate-filled buddies, they are not only insulting Muslims, but also Bahais. Shame on anyone for defending hate. You're the problem in the world. You and your hate. 

Hypocrisy galore

Zion's hypocrisy is legendary, so I'm not surprised at all. Zion has criticized Islam for Islam (not just IRI) many times, saying now it's all about "state policy" is pure bullshit and hyporcitical. This from the supporter of a "state" that feels entitled to be called a "Jewish" state and "protect" that status through biased laws and occupations and try to say it's a democracy too?

Dear "I have a crush...",

your point is of course valid. I have made it myself in the past. There is not one criticism of Islam which doesn't also apply to Christianity and Judaism. Anyone who tries to tell you any different is hiding his/her personal bias in favor of one religion over the other (this was proven in the case of Zion).

A while ago, I had an argument with Zion, who was trying to say Islam sucks because Islam commands the killing of non-Muslims. After we established that nowhere in the Koran is this mentioned, I politely pointed out that in the Torah, old Testemant it does in fact specifically say you should kill non-believers.

Zion almost had a fit! nearly losing it! At the end of a lot of BS excuses the bottom line was that Zion caliming: "yea, but Jews know not everything in their book is literal, Muslims don't know." Which of course is ridiculous and easily demonstrable to be false. But this really drove the point home that the real issue is not criticism of Islam as a religion, it's just an excuse to say "My religion is better and yours sucks."

When it comes to Bahai's though, I have to give them credit for not going out of their way to attack Islam proper. This could be because they have such a close historic and theological connection, not just to Islam but to Shiism. Still I see a lot of double standards with regards to Islam. Of course this tactic is majorly backfiring. When a young person is confronting hate and hypocrisy in his/her community and looking around at different belief systems, this kind of obvious anti-Islamic hypocrisy really gives a lot of credit to Islam and Muslims. Part of the reason why conversion to Islam is still very popular and Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

I have more respect for people who attack all religions as a matter of principle: atheist, agnositics and even those theists who are against organized religion or religious rituals. But those people are very few. Many of them are "atheists" only when it comes to criticizing Islam. That is the real divisiveness, not your blog. People who attack you simply want to continue their privilege media-driven atmosphere where Islam is considered worse than other religions.

Even a better example would be Zoroastrianism which has many backwards and ridiculous tents yet, only the harmless/positive spin of it is ever discussed. For example many so-called "nationalists" falsely claim that Islam is not part of the Iranian culture and want to dismiss Muslim practices in favor of "Iranian" pre-Islamic ones. Yet, almost everything they consider "Iranian" (Norooz, Yalda, chaharshanbe soori, etc.) are actually Zoroastrian in origin, simply another religion. Not just another religion, one that used to be the state religion of Iran.

The right thing to do is to respect all religions equally, if only as a sign of respect to humanity and the choices that large number of humans make.

Anyway... enough for today. Have a nice thanksgiving.

You don't need my permission my dear

Say whatever you like about Islam. Islam is the grandbaby of Judaism, not much of difference there.
And by the way I love the liberal side of Israel.
IMAGINE A WORLD WITH NO RELIGION.

It sucks

It also has nothing to with the state, it is not sanctioned by the state, those engaging in such "patrols" hate the state to their bones, and unlike what you are trying to falsely imply, it has been on very very rare occasions when it ever got bloody, and those cases always had some political motives behind them.

But in general, the overzealous ones are a real pain in the rear for every one else. Now you know. Satisfied?

(Do you really want us to go over every single religion in the world before you feel you can give others your holy permission to say something about Islam?
Ok, Who's next? Hindus? Mormons?...)

Hypocrisy

I really like to know what Zion says about the behavior of orthodox Jews in Israel. I want him to tell us how feels about the “modesty patrols” in Israel harassing women and men for not behaving like a good Jew. You know “modesty patrols” just like the “pasdars and basij” making life hell for everybody else. I like to know his opinion about the fundamentalist who assassinate government officials and writers.
You can’t say this religion is good or that religion is bad; all religions suck big time.

Asterix ?

If it,s not meant as Aspirin , is properly  Pronounced as Ass_trix , Ass_pranx....Also, rhymes with I_seek_shrinx & Psychiatrix.

Cheers!!!

Zion & Marge

Zion,

Thanks again for your common sense.  Of course, Mohammed is a historical figure, and should be criticized (or praised if that rocks your boat) accordingly.  There's nothing about him that puts him above criticism and even some good ol' fashioned ridicule (which I am about to engage in).

"pbuh"? yeah...right...peace be upon that pedophile sex obsessed desert bandit!!!! How about his victims....you know, thousands of people who were executed "Khomeini" (and mafia) style on his direct orders?  And how about those poor child sex victims of his (Aisha for one)?  Should peace be upon them as well?  Get your head out of your rear end and read some history.  You will see what kind of a nasty character you are defending here!!!

On Bahais, I actually agree with you.  Islam is a silly religion to begin with, so any religion that is derived from Islam is just as silly.  I have always said as much and really don't know the fascination with Bahaism (not bahais as people.  They should obviosuly be free to excercise whatever they believe in, just like Muslims should be.  I have no qulams with that either). 

But Zion is right again.  You can criticize Bahaism and you will get a polite response.  But you criticize Islam and.....well, if you are lucky enough to be outside of a Muslim country, and therefore, escape the government or non government sanctioned lynchmob, firing squad, crane (to be hanged from) or the sword to be beheaded by(ala Saudi Arabia), you may get a stabbing (ala Van Gogh) or a car bomb perhaps...or if you're lucky, and your local Muslim community does not have access to high explosives or weapons in the foreign country that you live in...or if you write anonymously online (like here) perhaps you will only get a flood of nasty comments calling you a Zionist, Islam hater, neocon....etc.

See the difference?  Now go watch the Simpsons....  

"So shouldn't these same

"So shouldn't these same haters hate Bahais too? Just a question."

You either are encouraging hate or are suffering from a jealousy complex. It would be interesting to know which.

Here is your answer

'Notice how no one has given a good defense of insulting Mohammad and Islam, when it indirectly attacks Bahais too.'

No one bothers to "answer" you because your question is a nonsense non sequitur. The premise and claim have no logical relevance to each other. There is nothing wrong with criticizing or even insulting Muhammad and Islam. He was a historical public figure, and his alleged teachings, Islam, is a set of belief dogmas. Not only is there nothing wrong with going after ideologies and dogmas that rest at the root of different faiths, it is a healthy exercise of free speech.
However, Bahais are human beings, real people. Attacking Islam does not indirectly attack Bahais. It might be an indirect attack on Bahaism, which is a set of beliefs, but it is no attack on Bahais. Bahaism actually has been questioned, criticized, attacked and even ridiculed many times here, let alone the kind of treatment it gets in Islamic communities at large, and the response by Bahais here has always been one of dignified acceptance of other people's right to question, and a polite suggestion to continue the debate in more depth (You can, in the mean time, compare that to the typical Muslim reaction, to learn something about the difference one's beliefs can make in one's life and on'es attitude.) No one, including the Bahais themselves, shuns questioning or attacking their set of beliefs.

Attacking Bahais, a respectable peaceful and open minded people, is what others rightly condemn. That's by the way what you did, when you spew forth garbage like this:

'OH so the reason is Bahais are perfect people?...So they deserve empathy and political platforms?'

You got what you deserved in response, from the same people who were kind enough to politely correct your typical ignorance, a bit earlier.

Got it?

Attacking Islam, a set of beliefs, is allowed, even necessary. So those in possession of functioning brains do not see any reason to condemn it. Attacking a group of peaceful human beings is wrong, ugly and condemnable.

Finally, mixing the two to promote division, or buy further justification for censorship, or as a result of some attention seeking disorder, is pathetic and should be duly ignored.

Kapisch? Now go back to Astérix and Obélix comic books where you belong.

who was muhmmad: Was

who was muhmmad:

Was Muhammad a great prophet of God spreading goodness throughout the world or a power hungry manipulator of people who used their desires for sex, eternal life and help from God, for personal gain? One way to answer this question is to ask what he would have done if he were one or the other and than compare what the Koran and the Hadiths say he did, to these expectations. In this essay we will try and determine which is correct by considering what Muhammad would have done if he was a ruthless power hungry man who used religion to manipulate people and comparing that to what he actually did. To help do this let us imagine ourselves in his situation.

If you decided to start a cult you would have to figure out how to do it. You could declare that you are God. After some thought, you might realize that, that is not the best way to go about it. If you claim to be God to people, they will think you are crazy and they will challenge you to perform miracles and you can't perform miracles. Another option is to try and convince them that you can communicate with God (you are his prophet) and that God talks through you. Now you don’t have to perform miracles.

One problem you would face is that if you persuade these people to believe in you, they might tell their friends about their new religion and their friends may convince them that you are a con-artist after their money. How can you prevent that from happening? Somehow you need to stop them from communicating with their friends. (This is a technique commonly used by modern day cults) You could take the approach Muhammad took which was to command them:

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. [Koran, al-Ma'idah 5:51.11]

And

Ignore disbelievers and their poisonous talk. [Koran 33:48]

And

Stay away from non-Muslims. They are all liars. [Koran 9:107]

What if they start having doubts on their own and start spreading those doubts? You could terrify them into being silent about those doubts by instructing your followers:

Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

You could also threaten them with burning in the eternal fires of hell if they don’t believe.

Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. (Koran 22:19-22:23)

One way to increase your wealth and power and wipe out those that spread doubt about you at the same time, would be to conquer the infidels who dare not honor you as their prophet and seize their money. You might instruct your followers:

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

If you wanted revenge against those who refuse to accept your religion and you were a totally ruthless and vicious sicko you might tell your followers to torture the non-believer. You might say:

Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits. (Koran 69:30-37)

and

I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

and

They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33)

Smiting above necks by Muslims in modern times can be seen here.

Inevitably you will find some people who don't believe in you because they already believe in other religions. It would be much easier to manipulate people into believing that you are a prophet if you argue that your God Allah is the same as their God. According to the following text in the Koran Muhammad did this. In this text Allah is God, Isa is Jesus, Marium is Mary the Taurat is the Torah and the Injeel is the New Testament.

5.44] Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light; …[5.46] And We sent after them in their footsteps Isa, son of Marium, verifying what was before him of the Taurat and We gave him the Injeel in which was guidance and light, and verifying what was before it of Taurat and a guidance and an admonition for those who guard (against evil).

There is evidence that Muhammad did this with the Pagans in Arabia as well. The crescent moon which is a symbol of Islam is also a symbol of the moon God which was worshipped by the Arabs of Muhammad’s time. One of the names of the moon God was Al-Ilah which is most likely where the word Allah came from. The Kaaba was the house of the moon God and is the holiest place in Islam. For more about this see Was Allah the Moon God?

Saying that Allah is the same God as the God of other religions may create unexpected problems. What if other religions teach, that killing the non-believer is wrong? The Jewish Mishna teaches that:

whoever destroys one life is regarded by the Torah as if he has destroyed a whole world; and whoever saves one life, is regarded as if he has saved a whole world.

According to the Koran, Muhammad did not deny that Allah had said this but explained that it did not apply to killing non-Jewish infidels. Muhammad said that Allah said: (Koran 5.32-5.33)

32. That is why We decreed for the children of Israel that whosoever kills a human being, except (as punishment) for murder or for spreading corruption in the land, it shall be like killing all humanity; and whosoever saves a life, saves the entire human race. Our apostles brought clear proofs to them; but even after that most of them committed excesses in the land.

33. The punishment for those who wage war against God and His Prophet, and perpetrate disorders in the land, is to kill or hang them, or have a hand on one side and a foot on the other cut off, or banish them from the land. Such is their disgrace in the world, and in the Hereafter their doom shall be dreadful.

Muslims often quote 5.32 out of context to show that Islam is a benevolent religion. After the failed car bombing attempts in London by Muslim doctors, Dr. Asma Mobin-Uddin, of the Council of American Islamic Relations (CAIR) in an editorial in the New York Post 7/4/2007 wrote that:

"The Koranic verse that equates saving one life with saving the lives of all of humanity teaches me the sacredness of each life and inspires me to strive for professional excellence."

Taking this verse out of context in this way is extremely deceptive since the only reason that verse is in the Koran is to justify killing and maiming Jewish infidels.

Dealing with the problem of compassionate verses in religions that you incorporate into your own is only one of your problems if you are trying to be a wealthy prophet. One problem with encouraging your followers to attack and loot the infidel is that the non-believing infidel might defend himself. That might deter your followers from attacking. You could give them the incentive of being able to keep the booty. You could tell them:

The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause ... will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) (Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Vol 1 Book 2 Number 35)

The lure of booty has motivated Muslim soldiers throughout history. The Turkish historian Seaddedin wrote about how the offer of booty motivated Muslim soldiers when he wrote about the fall of Constantinople to his fellow Muslims in 1453. He wrote:

Having received permission to loot, the soldiers thronged into the city with joyous hearts and there, seizing the possessors and their families, they made the wretched unbelievers weep.

You could give them the incentive of sex also by saying that it's fine with Allah if your followers have sex with the captured women and keep them as slaves.

33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you ... the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."

4:24 - And all married women (are forbidden) unto your save those (captives) whom your right hand possesses.

Still the risk of death might deter some of your followers. If you were a brilliant and evil man you might think of and carry out the following ingenious solution to the problem. You could tell your followers that they will go to paradise if they die fighting for the faith. You might complete the previous sentence as follows:

The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause ... will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). (Hadith Sahih Bukhari, Vol 1 Book 2 Number 35)

and remind your followers that:

"Know that paradise is under the shades of swords." Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55

So tell us what it is like to be in paradise your followers might ask. You might say that those who enter paradise will enjoy:

"abundant fruits, unforbidden, never-ending." There will be "gushing fountains" and everyone "shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine." Suras (or chapters) 55 and 56 of the Quran.

That might not be enough to convince your lusty male followers to risk death in battle so you might tell them some even more thrilling aspects of Paradise. You might tell them:

"Therein are bashful virgins whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before ... virgins as fair as corals and rubies," sura 55. A few lines later, you might remind them of "virgins chaste and fair ... they shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets."

By now you have a rapt audience of eager male listeners. How many virgins are there for a man who dies for Allah an eager follower asks?

Why the smallest reward for every believer who is admitted to Paradise is 72 wives. The proof is in the Book of Sunan (volume IV, chapters on "The Features of Paradise as described by the Messenger of Allah," Chapter 21: "About the Smallest Reward for the People of Paradise," Hadith 2687). The Tafsir of Surah Al-Rahman (55), verse 72: mentions servants as well "It was mentioned by Daraj Ibn Abi Hatim that Abu-al-Haytham Abdullah Ibn Wahb narrated from Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri, who heard the Prophet Muhammad saying: 'The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a.'"

Are they really virgins a starry eyed follower asks?

The chastity of the black-eyed was not violated by man nor jinn (verse 74 of Surah Al-Rahman (55))

What if a follower is concerned that when are surrounded by all those women he won’t be able to do it? Tell him not to worry. TIRMZI, vol. 2 states on page 138:

A man in paradise shall be given virility equal to that of one hundred men.

Even with all this incentive there may be some of your followers who are afraid of getting hurt. They may be afraid of dying, the cowards. Not only that but they may fear that since they haven’t led the most moral life they may not qualify for paradise and spend eternity in hell. Reassure the miserable cowards. Tell them that the rewards of Al Shaheed (Martyr) include:

(Hadith Tirmidhî and Ahmad):

· He will not feel the agony of death.

· He does not feel the pain of the killing except like that of a pinch.

· All the Shaheed’s sins and faults are forgiven with the first drop of blood that comes out of his body.

· The soul of the martyrs dwell in Paradise whenever they like.

· Allah will marry him to Hur-al-een.

Sheikh Abd Al-Salam Abu Shukheydem, Chief Mufti of the Palestinian Authority police force reminded his Muslims brothers of these Hadiths in September 1999. (Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Palestinian Authority), September 17, 1999.), He said in regard to the martyr:

"From the moment the first drop of his blood is spilled, he does not feel the pain of his wounds and he is forgiven for all his sins; he sees his seat in Paradise; he is saved from the torment of the grave; he is saved from the great horror of Judgment Day; he marries 'the black-eyed'; he vouches for 70 of his family members; he gains the crown of honor, the precious stone of which is better than this entire world and everything in it." In a Friday sermon broadcast on Palestinian television, Sheikh Ismail Al-Radwan declared: "He is given 72 'black-eyed.'"

Congratulations. You’ve almost completely brainwashed your followers into becoming murdering madmen but something is still missing. Some of your followers had Jewish or Christian friends. They don’t want to kill them. You need paranoia. You need to convince your followers that the non-believers are evil. You need to tell them that (Koran 5:13):

you shall always discover treachery in them

And Koran (4:76)

disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil.

And Koran (7:177)

Those who deny Muhammad's revelation are evil.

And Koran (8:55)

The worst beasts in Allah's sight are the disbelievers.

And Koran(8:59 8:60)

They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah.

There is still something missing. You need more paranoia. If you want your followers to wipe out the Jews you need to make the Jews out to be a threat. You might do what Muhammad did to get his followers to massacre them.

He accused the Jewish tribe of the Bani Quraytha of wanting to betray him and the angel Gabriel ordered him to attack them. He went to them, put them under siege for 14 days. Finally they surrendered. So Mohammed killed all their men, enslaved their women and children [Saheeh Muslim - 1769].

Ali Sina gives us an example of how Muhammad motivated his followers to seize the property of the Jews of Bani Nadeer tribe. He wrote.:

Bani Nadeer had the best-cultivated land in Yathrib. Muhammad had his eyes on their plantations and farms. Bukhari Volume 9, Book 92, Number 447 … So he had to come up with an excuse…. He needed a pretext to act upon his plan and confiscate the properties of these wealthy Jews. There again, the prophet of Allah had a new “inspiration”. It was a brilliant idea. He told his companions that the Jews had plotted to kill him. His followers believed him when he told them of his Miiraj in the company of Gabriele (that the angel Gabriel told him that the Jews planned to kill him). They had no difficulty believing whatever to believe in any absurdity that he concocted…

//www.primechoice.com/philosophy/shelp/muhamm...

Jeez... who licked the red off Tahirih's candy cane?

I thought she was, like, the symbol for peace and love.  Just a little bit overdramatic, don't you think?  Why is Marge's blog any less viable than someone's erectile dysfunction?  Believe me, I have more interest in her question than a discussion of THAT.  She doesn't express hate in anything she said at all.  Break out the chill pills. 

Ain't it good to know the grammAR and spelling patrol is on the job.  Oh well, you know the old saying.

Those who can, do.  Those who can't, teach. 

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Cheteh?!
Now you're attacking the Zoroastrians by making fun of their history and culture!
What's wrong with you? Too much hatred? We thought only your dear buddy is stubborn and bears a huge grudge... But to cheteh?
Why can't you just take the advice given to you and have more respect for other people's religion?

Aakheh to beh deen o mazhab cheekaar daari?
Khejaalat bekesh, seni azat gozashteh; ham sen-o saalhaayeh to too beemaarestaan keeseh shaash beheshoon aveezooneh! Baa een sen-o saalet farz kon keh aadami, enghadr maghlateh beh paa nakon.

Contradictions

Why are the responses from Alborz and Tahiri in such contradiction?
I didn't see any reason for the blogger to be attacked so harshly by Tahiri, who claims to be a peace-loving Bahai.
This is just contradictory (at best) to what Alborz says.

Defence of and respect for Muhammad

After 160 years of intolerance and persecution in the cradle of their Faith, Iran, the Baha'is do not have much reason to support the tolerance of Islam by any group; whether it be on this site or elsewhere.

However, Muhammad cannot be held responsible for the actions of the fanaticism that Islamic clergy have stirred up amongst Muslim believers, just as Jesus cannot be held responsible for the inquisition and witch-burnings of the Church.  Can anyone dispute this without bias?

We should not tolerate religious hatred, fanaticism and proselytism as they are defective human attitudes and qualities.  They are the most definitive signs that the animating spirit of the Faith of these believers has left the body of their religion. In short, nothing is left but a scripture devoid of life, potency, and relevance.  Is there any wonder why Islam and Islamic societies find themselves in this state of decreptitude?

It is this recognition that bears witness to much of the condemnation of Islam here and elsewhere. The fear of Islam that is instilled in the hearts and minds of people around the world is well justified.  But can we ultimately judge Muhammad, as Islamic societies, alongside the rest of the world, experience their own form of decline?  Are we blind to the decline in Western, so called Christian societies, even during the biggest heist of people's wealth?

Any fair minded person would understand this reasoning and would consider it as their own without pride or prejudice, when dealing with such questions.

The respect afforded one Manifestation of God does not come at the expense of another.  The defence of the Baha'is and the recognition of their plight is not in lieu of a compromise in the rights of others.  Linking the two is simply baseless and founded on a false premise that there is a scarcity of respect just as if it were a commodity.  Such a view represents is unenlightened and sadly is the basis for much of the challenges facing us Iranians inside and outside of Iran. 

Respect, compassion, and love do not follow the laws of commodities as they are regenerative.  The more they are shared and given, the more plentiful they are.  Is there any evidence to the contrary?

Happy thanksgiving!

Alborz

Tahirih! Oh My God!! Really? Let's get personal a bit more!

Please continue to attack me and now my mental state. I know you're qualified, probably an internet certified physician. Notice how no one has given a good defense of insulting Mohammad and Islam, when it indirectly attacks Bahais too. I like this Bahai philosophy.

We can learn from the Bahais. Unlike these hyper-Zoroastrians, they are persecuted beyond belief in Iran and elsewhere, yet they do not attack any religion or group. I think they are far beyond any other religious group. They put the rest of humanity to shame in this sense. Bravo Bahais. That's my opinion, I'm sure some of you think it means i'm

•  insane
• in need of a doctor
• should read the Avesta and join the Zoroastrian army for the establishment of the throne and King Tokhme Palang.
• a bahai agent. even though there is no bahai state, still an agent.

In conclusion, keep hurling hate at me. Its cool by me. 

"Marge" this is a sad case of wanting to attract attention !!!!!

I am very disappointed at JJ for featuring this empty , hate propaganda and bigot blog.

Marge, as you may know I was raised a shia Muslim , also I am a sayyed, so I have so much hot red blood in me, which I am very proud of, but usually only unleash it for cases like you , not others :)))

 First ,I have to apologize to my fellow readers if this is too harsh for a Bahai to express.

OK, now I am ready: You have tried every opportunity to bring attention to yourself in an unhealthy way, and this is the rock bottom as far as I am concern. Please read your blog , it is empty of any information , only words of hate.

I believe that you are in urgent need for psychiatric help, why ? Since the whole world, including your hero ( which by the way is mine too ) Obama , is for unity and you sit down and start writing about hate, division and some more hate !!!

There are more ways to get attention, you know , by advocating for peace, when war is popular. by advocating for minorities when otherwise is the trend of the society.

and the list goes on and on.

I do not believe that people are born bad, so you are not twisted by birth , but must have had really bad experiences in your life, Pity!!!!

Since you can not rise above them and taste the sweetness of being kind.

You can try to be little Bab, but you are less then a small " pasheh" compare to the will of God.

" light of unity can illuminate the whole world" ( Bahaullah)

Tahirih

Zion, LOL!

Hilarious!
That was a good one.

Thanks for the morning laugh...

A very good question Marge...

Dear Marge philosophy of hate & bigotry is based on fear, an unreasonable fear and superiority!  It's as shameful and bigoted to hate a Baha’i or a Jewish child as it’s to hate a Muslim child. Haters use guilt by association in their small minds; since in a very small group of Muslims are involved in Jihad than all Muslims must be jihadist. That's how it goes unfortunately among all the haters regardless of their religion nationality and race.

Let's hope one day humans will eradicate hate just like disease!

Please, no talk of cults

All religions are cults. If you are a muslim, bahai, christian, jew, mormon, darvish ....you are member of a cult. Your cult leader just wants your money and your vote so he can make more money.

Asterix?!

lol. (Is a measure of the level of literacy I suppose.)
Use Obélix next time, it (he) usually attracts more attention.

You asked and here is the answer

I have yet to see a Bahai to do Jihad, cut peoples head, force their religion, beat their wives as part of their religious duty or kill others. That is why. If I have mistaken, please correct me.

No one should incite hate and division.

Had we stood up for the Bahais of Iran some 150 years ago, they, the FANATICs wouldn't do to all of us what they have been doing to the Bahais for the past fifteen decades.
Now stop whining. Nobody hates moslems, they just dont care for the extreme actions of some of the faithful.

DUUHHH

Hajiya what ever your style? sure sounds like want to steer some chillis
bahai.org is on your keybard for FAQ, also cair.org .
please leave the religion conflict out of your political views sincerely a lost IRANIAN in the western hemisphere. salud

Dear Marge

The Bab is the forerunner of the Bahai faith, and Baha'u'llah is the Founder of the Baha'i Faith.

Respectfully,Mona