I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

Koroush S

I guess we will just disagree on the matter.

Your assertion that "it doesn't amount to much" sounds more like a justification to have these programs because only a few people abuse it, but not enough to me to gripe or whine about.

As far as what I know, or what I experienced, you are making assumptions about my life experiences that frankly you shouldn't.

Cycles of behavior tend to repeat itself into the next generation. For you to suggest it doesn't is just plain wrong. As I mentioned before, there will always be exceptions to the rule. But in this particular case being discussed, people who have been on public assistance for extended lengths of time, for reasons having nothing to do with genuine disability, more often than not, pass on the behaviors, values, morals and ethics to their children, who end up repeating this pattern of behavior into their own adulthood, simply because they don't know anything else.

This idea you have that children drop out to buy medicine for mom or grandma is pure fantasy. The truth is, they're dropping out because they have no guidance from mom or grandma or anyone else on the importance of education. They drop out because they are led to believe that Grandma got by without an education. Grandma's children got by, and now the grandchildren are "getting by". No one has instilled a sense of values in them because the people they look up to the most to instill these values. their parents, lack those values themselves.

This should not be construed as an underestimation of human intelligence. You're confusing this with human behavior. This is human behavior. This is a result of behavioral conditioning.

By this quasi-justification-apologetic-rationalization you are trying to make, you are completely nullifying the achievements and accomplishments of those people who lived such childhoods yet persevered and succeeded. These people are clearly in the minority, but they are the ones who didn't make excuses, or lived their lives as perpetual victims because of the GOP, the way some people on the left would like to have others believe.

K.N. Such abuses that you

K.N.

Such abuses that you are so frustratingly referring to Don't amount to much, and comprise a small percentage, so it is not even worth griping or whining about. It really does not and should not bother you, if you are a hard worker and a firm believer that capitalism will always work.

What is the big deal if a rich and the wealthiest nation in the world, extends a hand to its most disadvantaged, who despite what it may seem to you are not even lazy. Your problem is that you think that money comes to them for free, and not taking into consideration they MUST meet certain criteria of eligiblity.

You are undermining human intelligence and value byassuming that the cycle of Jujekeshi and laziness will carry itself over for generations on end. Ajab. What about trusting and beliving in one of the most invaluable of capitals, a capitalistic country could
ever have and invest in namely the human capital?

You don't know and you probably never have been to a school filled with kids with mom or dad on welfare to know enough and firsthand, that they days of buying expensive shoes and electronic gadgets are so over and it is about the food on the table and whether they should drop out and get a job to buy medicine for sick mom or grandma.
I have friends who are teachers and counselors and i know.

What "people of every socio-economic class were reaping the benefit"? what benefits? You would not even be allowed to invest money if you don't meet certain conditions. Those capitalistic ways that were supposedly being lauded have always been going through periodical cycles, and always found a way to nail their followers to the wall.
There are more bad times than good times in such a system.

MARGE YOU MAY HAVE JUST VOTED FOR IRAN's OBLITERATION ;0)

Clintonite May Well become Secretary of State for Obama.

You should have voted for Bush ... LOL

Bacheha Khar too Khar Shod !

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K.S.

Here's my take:

If someone is physically unable to work, due to illness or injury, I say take care of them. Especially if the injury or illness affects the elderly, or a military veteran.

The ruin I'm referring to is from the blatant abuses taking place at the hands of able-bodied, ambulatory people who, in a nutshell, are just plain LAZY.

What is the incentive for them to get off their butts and work? None, really. They get financial assistance, food stamps and all of these other benefits, all in the name of "social justice". (HA!)

Make a few babies, get more money. Cut the umbilical cord and cash the check. They raise children usually with no fathers, sometimes with no mothers either, and no values whatsoever. Then the cycle repeats itself to the next generation because it's what they know and are taught to believe is the way.

Spend money on a pair of Air Jordans, so you can skip school or drop out in style. Always wanna look good on the outside, even if the inside is empty.

Yes, of course, there are those who say, "no, not me, I'm not going to be a statistic. I'm going to make something of myself and make something of my life." They are the exception, however, and not the rule. They validate the rule.

As for those immigrants who came here on a regular immigrant visa, the same debt of gratitude applies to them. If they're not here because of religious or political persecution, or to further their education, then they are here for economic opportunities that aren't available anywhere else. Again it goes to the word opportunity. Bottom line, we aren't owed jack.

As far as the financial situation, those capitalistic ways that are being heavily criticized now are the same capitalistic ways that were being lauded when people of every socio-economic class were reaping the benefits, whether directly or indirectly. Reward is never without risk. In reality Wall Street is a casino in lower Manhattan.

Not exactly

K.N.

Those social programms, if the did not achieve anything, they at least put bread on some disabled, sick individual's table who could not work even if he or she wanted to. It paid their rent and provided clothing for their kids in the family. And they did not necessarily created additional welfare generations considering the fact that some, if not all, of the children from these families did end up going to college and becoming somebody, they even become entreprenures. That counts for something.

The percentage of immigrants who came to this country on the basis of protection fromany kind of persecution or oppression pales in comparison to those who came as students or on a regular immigrant status.

It would really be logical, if The US scaled back a bit on its super, hyper, capitalistic ways so we won't all end up getting flushed down the toilet everytime a big shot makes the wrong financial decision or dares to bet on everyone's life savings, without a care in the world.

I guess the canadian guy forgot to mention that before going into the candy store, keep in mind nothing is free and be prepared to take up the cost and the sometimes devastating consequences of grabbing too many candies.

Ronald Reagan's Presidency

was the beginning of the greatest period of prosperity this country has known. Even the most liberal of liberals will attest to that.

These social programs that were supposedly "ruined" are what have been in fact ruining this country. There's not a shred of evidence that exists to prove that these liberal social programs have achieved anything other than create additional welfare generations.

The U.S. has a ton of things that are wrong with it, be it culturally, socially, politically, economically, or any other way. But I get extremely angry when people, especially non-Americans, act as if this country owes any of us a debt.

This country took us in, took in our parents or maybe even our grandparents. They weren't obligated to take anyone in. Whether trying to escape the Shah. the mullahs, some African dictator, or a bloodthirsty self-appointed general in some Central American banana republic, THIS country, the Yoonited Esstates of Aamrikaa, gave us sanctuary and protection. Protection from religious oppression, political oppression, and any other kind you can think of.

For some, The U.S. offered an opportunity to get an education. For others, the opportunity to start a new chapter of their lives without the black cloud of fear overhead or tapping you on the shoulder. The opportunity to become business owners, entrepreneurs, physicians, attorneys, just about any damn thing you want to be.

For some, maybe even someone who is reading this right now, this country allowing you in saved your very life.

This country doesn't owe any of us a goddamn thing. If anything we owe the U.S. a simple debt of gratitude, just for openers.

I met a Canadian-born man at a real estate seminar several years ago, who told me of how difficult it was for him to sustain the standard of living he wanted until he left Canada for good and moved to California in the 1960s.

His exact words were, "the U.S. is like a giant candy store. It has everything you could possibly want. And if you don't take advantage of the opportunities this country offers, I have no pity for you."

And in closing, this lesson from Civics 101:

This government is a government of the people, by the people and for the people.

Not the "Elite, Smart and Educated".

Have a great day.

the 80's

I am actually relieved that the 80's have passed, that whole decade was miserable for me.

unfortunately, unless we learn from the past mistakes we're doomed to repeat them. As long as Reagan is looked upon as a hero, his party will not be able to move forward and adjust itself with the times, and the gap between the GOP and the actual American society would just grow. Americans by nature are progressive people. 

IRANdokht

Sadly, the 80s have passed!

Ok so this rebuildtheparty.com and all these are sites are sprouting up. ALL OF THEM use quotes and videos of Reagan. That's silly!! 

He wasn't even a good actor!

I expect actors to keep acting or retire from Hollywood to a ranch somewhere and leave politics to the elite, smart and educated ones!    Is that too much to ask?

:0)

IRANdokht

oh yeah... please don't get me started on the hypocrisy!  ugh...

Irandokht he was a career actor. What do you expect?

I dont know if you remember or lived this, but many protests included chants that reminded Reagan that "THIS IS REAL LIFE. NOT A MOVIE". Also, scholars have looked at his speeches and wouldn't you know it, he quotes his movies. He lifts quotes from his movies! Biden = plagarist but Reagan is a hero. 

Reagan is way overrated!

The man was scaring people of Medicare and spoke of how it would ruin the American values!  He damaged a lot of the social programs, sleep-walked through the Iran-Contra affairs and pretended he couldn't remember a thing! He damaged the economy so bad that GHB couldn't fix in the next 4 years. He made the rich richer and the poor poorer. He just looked like a personable guy and did not own up to the disasterous domestic and foreign policies.

He's also responsible for the sales of arms and chemical warfare (WMD) used by Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war which makes my problem with his presidency and the decisions he made, a personal matter for me.

IRANdokht

Interesting

When did I accuse every one to be islamists? those who are they know it, They wear it as badge of honor. Don't you worry about them! Don't worry about BO either oon kharsh az pol gazeshteh digeh shomaha ra emikhad....

And Exactly what solution are you seeking sister than some how I am the problem?
I have no problem with people like you. should you compassionate folks decide to pay 90% of your income to the government so it can be spent on the poor it's fine with me!!! after all it's your patriotic duty, as you said in your previous postings just leave the rest of us out of it!

Dear Marge....

I think years have subtle calming effect on our psyche how we recall the past, for example I think if it wasn't for Nixon’s paranoia he would have been a great prez or same with Reagan if he only could remember things. But if we look at them in context of their time and what they did we would see them less favorably!

PS. Sorry, you know I'm not a Republican but I couldn't resist! :-)

No it doesn't boil down to going after islamists

Islamists are their own problem. Iranians and Arabs should take care of their own problems. If America had always stayed out of the politics, it would have been better in the long run. TOO LATE!

MRX why don't you start and army and stop accusing everyone of being an Islamist? You are the problem, not the solution. 

wo sides of same coin

current crop of republicans are like their fellow democrats: corrupt, incompetent and believer of big government despite what they preach!
There is a need for a real conservative party in U.S.
In any case It boils down to two issues:
A) you always want to vote for a person who will tax you less than other guy.Don't cave in, when they start talking "oh it's all for the chillllllllderen, we need pre,post, above, beyond school,this program that program, blah,blah" rubbish, they just want your money!

B) You need some one strong and competent in foreign policy. if the person who you vote for idea's of foreign policy is to seat down sar sofreh and eat kaleh pacheh with ahmadi nejad, and kim jung ill and the rest of these cock roaches (No offense to our islamists hovering at this web site) then I say you should be concern.

i have a crush on alex trebeck jan

my republican friend tells me that she is republicans because true republicans believe in lower taxes, less federal government spending and interfering and governing, more state governing and involvement, more freedom of the citizens. she also says that what we have now is not a true republican ideals. she says that she is going to join the libertarian party in the next election because the way the republican party is going on it sucks.

teapot

I don't know for how long you've been visiting this site, IF you're new, eventually you'll learn  how to ignore some "ZerZers"!

Xerexes

I am a Republican
by XerXes (not verified) on Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:01 AM PST

Because I want Zions to attack Iran, so we can whoop their behind and give them a lasting lesson. To me zions are brat kids that need to be yelled at and supervised. That's my reason. Dems are too soft and won't attack.

Are you for real? You sound deranged and possibly clinically certifiable. Are you on anti-psychotic medication? Where does this violent inciting come from? Do all the hardliners wish the same thing as you do?? If true, they are just as insane as you are.

sociopaths are a danger to themselves and others.

NG

In this election, the biggest religious issue was on Obama's side: the crap Hillary's people started by saying he's Moslem, and that wacko Jeremiah Wright.

Nonetheless, I have no qualms with saying that the GOP has strayed from the game plan. I don't see the same level of influence from these bible thumpers like the now-dead Falwell, Robertson or anyone else. There are people out along the fringe that think a vote for the GOP is a vote for Jeeeeezzzzussss, but thankfully, those circus freaks are fewer in number. 

I think the key to having the GOP return to the level it once had is for the party to return to the basics of conservatism.

VIVA REAGAN

 I registered as republican too ,Because I believe we live in this great Republic,and after seeing Mr. Ronald Reagan closely in an Air force Academy's graduation ceremony  And remembering his promis to the American And Iranians alike...If he goes to white house on jan 20....

Remember;Jan 19th  at 1.00 A.M Tehran local time all hostages were boarding an airplane headed to germany.                                Republicans deliver what they promis.    Maziar

Separate church and state and you'll be fine!

I have thought of the same question myself: why do Americans still vote Republican after seeing what has happened to this country's economy, industry, and international image under a Republican White House?  Why don't people really SEE the catastrophic results of US policy on an international level?  Why don't people mourn the tarnished state of the once great name of US of A, a country with so much to offer the world?  Then I look at Republican thinking and though I might disagree, I can't really find anything in there which condones the type of behavior and policy we have seen coming out of Republican politicians.  Let's not forget that not all Republican presidents performed the way George Bush has. 

Republican thinking is not really what has been wrong with the Republican party over the past couple of decades.  Its close association and harmonious direction with the right wing Christian groups is what is wrong with the Republican picture these days.  Not honoring one of the principles America was founded on, separation of church and state, has become its plague these days.

Over the past few decades, Democrats have stepped closer and closer to the center, and Republicans have become more and more Christian evangelists as opposed to politicians.  This ails America.  I hope Obama's election pushes the Democratic party away from the Center, where they are currently undistinguishable from the other party, and that Republicans worship God in the Church and not in the Oval Office.  That, I believe, is a very important first step toward fixing America. 

I am a fan of Reagan also

His love for the country carried over to everyone else.

Foreign policy was once one of the GOP's pillars of strength. Had those original principles been applied without interruption, there likely would be less of a mess today.

I registered as a Republican in 1984 because I believe in small government, and low taxes. Government should provide for the basics only. Maintain the infrastructure and ensure safety from aggressors. That's it. Get rid of most these ridiculous taxes and keep more money in the pocket of the individual so that it circulates in the general economy, rather than getting pissed away by the government in some pork barrel program or social program with no oversight. I believe that welfare serves no legitimate useful purpose and only succeeds in keeping recipients from becoming productive and self-supporting members of society. I do not believe that health care is the government's responsibility, but the responsibility of the individual.

Great question again, Marge. You're on a roll.

For DK

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I am a Republican

Because I want Zions to attack Iran, so we can whoop their behind and give them a lasting lesson. To me zions are brat kids that need to be yelled at and supervised. That's my reason. Dems are too soft and won't attack.

while you're waiting...

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Apparently the republicans think that they just didn't target the right voters and see no problem with the way they conducted themselves, how outdated their views are, the way they avoided the issues and the way they belittled people by making Joe six-pack and Joe the plumber our national heroes! 

When a party is not popular with minorities of any kind, it's doomed to become the minority party. When they think Sarah Palin represents the American women and try to undo decades of a progressive movement struggle, they are just alienating more women. 

As long as the republicans are not open minded enough to ask people why they did not vote for them and keep going down the wrong path by avoiding the issues that matter to people, they will not get their come-back.

IRANdokht

I agree Down with the Republic

UP with the Queen and her Offsprings !

LOL

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