I Have a Crush on Alex Trebek

QumarsB

I agree, kid beauty pageants are just as creepy and abused. It is amazing that this child abuse is going on in the US and washing over people's head, the abuse does not register, it seems!!!

isn't that Tucker Carlson?

that kid is creepy, almost as much as Tucker.

This poor abused kid seems to have the pre-requisite amounts of overinflated ego and mental selfindulgance for the "Conservative" movement.

He basically said nothing, but appeared "pricipled" as he repeated some basic slogans. Just like the kid the bottom faking grievance for a concept and person he doesn't understand.

But if you want SERIOUS creepy, watch this:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pubRBcURzz8&feature...

Creepy!  Nobody should give

Creepy!  Nobody should give children the pulpit to orate.  It's clear that they are being exploited by adults to sell their agendas.  Desperate, really.  I guess people resort to anything when desperate.  Both of these clips come from creepy ideologies.  Conservatism.

The song remains the same

Ayhab - he's talking about MY IRANIAN PUNK ASS POTHEAD KID. LOL. CLASSY CONSERVATIVE VALUES! wooooo!

The GOP does not deserve a success. They have shat on this country over and over again. This war that they created and marketed "The war on terror" is absolute 100% Grade A bullshit. It has wasted money and blood. Until they think of a plan to fix the messes and the problems, or an exit strategy other than "till the job is done/ all the ay-rabs kneel down and kiss our asses", they don't deserve anything. Oh and their leader? Michael Steele? He's a caricature and should be ashamed. "my bad...." what a jackass.

Yes & No

Kids in Iran? Yes!
Iranian kids in the USA? No!

Abbas Agha

Seems like you have had no dialogue with Iranian kids lately, specially young boys and young girls in Iran.

Despite all the repression and censorship, They have such a vast array of knowledge, from day to day event, to complicated subjects such as  science physics, and specially politics.

Majority are truly impressive to say the least.

-YT

Marge

I do hope, for the sake of the country this GOP people could come up with someone/something that they can galvanize themselves.

Just look at the people they have been parading, Sara Palin, Bobby Jindal, Mitt Rumney, and now this kid.I am sure the kid is intelligent, but him lecturing in a meeting of that caliber only goes to show how desperate they are. They have turned themselves to the party of NO.

Not to mention their GOD Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hanitty. I bet George Washington is turning in the grave now. Poor soul............

-YT

Rosie, read it again ...

Dear Rosie, if you read again, I have put the issue of AGE central. By 'delusional conspiracy' I mean a situation of make-belief where the child does not know what they are talking about and their significance and they are being applauded and treated as if they do, therefore a delusion is being fostered both in the child and in the audience. I have sent several comments regarding this and they all make this point very clear, I even specifically mention their respective AGES! Anyway ...

Cool kid!

I loved the 1st kid!
Handsome, intelligent, with conservative values!
Vomit all you want; he's my hero!
You wish your smartass, rude,pothead Iranian punk kid was like this young man!

No the delusional conspiracy is NOT the issue in this blog,

Mehrmaz, the AGE of the child that's the issue in the blog, and that's WHY I wrote the post, to make SURE that the age IS the issue. As you can see by the reply below. But thank you for explaining your issue to me.

Captain - I HOPE SO

But I also hope not. He is obviously intelligent, but can he say the things that Rush, Ann, Sean, and George (Will) can get away with? Being ignorant and racist won't last long.

You know, a lot of people get charmed by the Republicans and their ideals. In theory, it's GREAT! Tiny ass government. Little oversight and we will not need to be saved from ourselves. It doesn't work though. I predict this kid will suffer a burn out and drift from the party - especially as he grows more rebellious and "adult".  

Nazy

1. I love you. When I first saw this, I did not even think of the parents. These children seem more like they "hatched". Who would not feel sad to see their child on a stage acting like a middle aged man? Thank you for pointing this out.

2. Thank you for shifting this "creepy" factor toward the parents. Today's parents are under lots of pressure. I'm sure these children will have very good networks in place to help them get their bearings in adult life: college, career, and networking support is something people their age will not have established as quickly as these two. But is that so bad? Once these times are gone, they don't come back.

3. Thank you for sharing your personal stories, again. I appreciate it.  

Is this kid new leader of

Is this kid new leader of conservatism movement or what?

-YT

Rosie, it is the delusional conspiracy that is the issue

, the delusion on the part of the child and the audience that the concepts are understood and they are genuinely worked out personally. It is the occasion and the level at which a child is engaged. When there is such intense performance and investment of personality it forecloses thinking and growth.

Human rights, solar energy and anti war talks in so far as they are at the level of the personal experiences of a child of that age are fine, but not when they are turned into mindless zombies. Energy issues and environmental pollution are in many circles every day talk, they are also discussed at schools extensively. Many kids also do have horrific personal experiences of human rights abuse and war, in which case that is fine too if they talk it. However when a 13 year old boy talks with such a pretentious know-it-all fashion and gets applause and recognition for his false self it is repulsive whether he talked of conservative or socialist or social democratic ideologies, and it is just as repulsive as the sermon of a 6 or 7 year old to a crowd of weeping men, whether he talked of Imam Hussein or secularism in Iran.

yes i would

it's not the subjects that bother. me. it's that these are children who are acting like adults, about adult topics. that's what I wrote to BN about mozart. I'm not worried about creepy adults in this blog but you're right about that. childhood is the best part of being a walking blob on this planet. Not enough people enjoy it and appreciate it, especially kids.

would you find him creepy if he were talking about

human rights, solar energy and anti-war?

anyway there's a helluva lot of creepy adults walking around who never gave prepubescent lectures.

Bajenagh! This is why I love you

Yes, I would find child mozart creepy. He had one of the worst childhoods. His uncle was an alcoholic who forced him to practice in the middle of the night when he came home from pubs. I think talent is great, but a healthy childhood is more important. Don't you agree?

I love Mozart's music, but part of appreciating it means knowing the pain he suffered to create it. Thanks for your comment. I really liked what you said.I think you are the best here on iranian.com. as for your sons, you didn't do anything wrong! You did something right :) 

p.s. Bajenagh, even if this kid was declaring the definition of liberalism, I would say the same. I understand child prodigy exists, but this is not a prodigy - this is a fundamentalist child in my opinion! He isn't just interested in politics or law. He is talking about a kind of narrow, one-way thinking. 

Neither is "ok"

You say the first kid is probably from a conservative household. This has to be true. It almost goes without saying! The second kid is obviously not from a Jewish family, right? It doesn't make it right just because the household is one way or another. I'm just saying that these children don't seem like children at all. They are very young and it is disturbing to see them taking on morbid topics like death, abortion, politics, taxes, and size of government so seriously. 

These kids are being exploited. It's not a new thing to exploit children though. Lots of extremists do this to make their ideas seem very attainable and simple to any audience. It's the oldest trick in the book. The worst case of it is child soldiers, who have been exploited in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. It is terrible to say just because conservatism is mainstream in the US - the kid is OK. He's a kid, not William Bennet. The second child is also too young to be that passionate about religion. 

What I'm more interested in is whether there was divorce, death, or trauma that brought them to be so entrenched in politics/religion. 

i have a crush on alex trebeck jan

politically i lean to the right of the center. i have done every thing in my power to persuade my two sons to be more like me in this regard and understand the virtues of lower taxes and less government bullying and spending in our personal lives. they have grown up to be two very nice liberal democratic young men. where did i go wrong, i ask myself.

i have no problem with the first young man in the video. he is a very bright 13 year old. he may or may not have been influenced by his parents. but it is not fair to go so far as to suggest that he was abused into believing everythig he is saying. we all influence our kids in one way or another, but there is a time in their lives that they take over and think and speak independently. 

as for being creepy, do we find mozart creepy to have started composing at the age of five, or some brilliant kids who get their phds at the age of fifteen? who think and speak in depth about physics or chemistry? i think some of us here are calling this kid creepy just because we don't like the message he is delivering.  

To: IRANdokht

Arz beh hozooreh anvaret keh, you can teach kids any ideology you want, but there comes a time that they rebel, and find their own way ( as many of you, parents, know). The kid is going to be exposed to all kinds of things, and in ten years, you have a totally different kid.

He may think he knows it all (and he's not even a damn teenager yet!) but come on, no one takes him seriously. He's cute, and that's it!

Very few child actors grow up to become great actors, and very few kids like this one, will grow up to be great conservatives! So, no, I am not scared!

Also, you should read his book. It's a very good read. I'll send it to you for your Birthday :-)

Yours,

Ali P.

(On a different note: shod maa yeh cheezee begeem, shomaa begee:" I agree with you Ali P,...ghorbooneh dahanet Ali P,...You are right Ali P.", for a change
;-) ?)

not scary Ali P?

The kid wrote a book!  Yes he's eating up the attention of his applauding audience and I am even impressed to see a kid speaking publicly with such confidence but listen to how he's preaching as if he's the only one who understands...

I know grown ups who haven't written books and don't have such strong convictions. He's too young to think he knows it all and be encouraged too. It scares me to no end. We develop on the premise that we don't know everything, that's how we learn to see different angles and decide what we are going to believe and accept or dismiss different notions. The greatest thinkers of all times have repeatedly shown that knowledge comes when you don't presume to know it all.

Growing up one dimensional does not promise growth and coming out of it as if it were a phase.... 

Marge is right, propaganda works and young minds are too vulnerable to be exposed to one-sided arguments alone.

IRANdokht

MPD & Irandokht

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ID: I read an interview with the first kid, and he stated that listening to Talk Radio on a daily basis since he was 8 years old is how he turned out like this. Propaganda works well, especially on small, innocent children. What a couple of morons his mother and father are. In America there are CDs and DVDs with fun stories and movies and this child was exposed to a bunch of crap. It's very sad.

Creepy Parents

There is no set of "minimum requirements" for becoming a parent. If you've got the working reproductive parts, unfortunately, you're in. Nobody hands parents a "User's Guide" to parenting. Children are put into our arms without much instruction other than informal advice on how to breastfeed and burp them and how to change their diapers, and good-luck with the rest of it.

Parenthood is a lonely business where we are faced daily with questions about what to do and what to say to the "individuals" for whose birth and life we are responsible. I think parenthood is a continual stream of trials and errors depending, of course, on our own education and experience and emotional state, but also on sheer luck on everybody's part.

When I show my two adult sons videos of their childhood, I see the urge in them to ridicule my motherly love for those memories of them as babies as well as their concealed intent interest in knowing how they were treated and loved as infants and toddlers and children. Those records are my gift to them for when they have children of their own, struggling with their own trials and errors in parenthood. They will at least know how to love their kids, I hope. Will they ever blame me for making them memorize a Sohrab Sepehri poem from beginning to end, and reading it in front of a video camera? Will they one day ask me why I taught them Christmas carols? Will my son blame me for helping him learn the entire book of "The Hassani Story" to read in his kindergarten performance? Time will tell.

Parents teach their children only what they like, know and understand. It takes a very special set of parents to try and teach their children things they themselves don't know and understand. This is why what may seem like brainwashing and child abuse happens. These parents, much like many others through history who found themselves married and devoted to a religious and political ideology, have taught their children this. I think the key lies in the education of parents and the society's holding them accountable.

Kids say the darnest things...

I don't have a problem with the first kid. It is common for parents to encourage kids to follow them. In this case, he probably comes from a conservative household.

Besides, this is America: His 'cuteness' is being exploited, and he gets a kick out of being on the spotlight. We do that to kids all the time( i.e., kids as jugglers, kids in beauty pegeants, kid rappers, kid actors, kids in circus acts).

The kids usually do follow their parents, until a certain age, where they find their own way. I have noticed the Iranian kids who are born abroad, usually tell the story of the Revolution- who was good, who was bad, and who was ugly- according to what their parents tell them. Some even tell it so passionately, like, you'd think they were there!

Ten years down the road, both kids are probably not like anything they are today. I don't see the first kid scarred though. He may play the video for his circle of gay friends, and laugh and say:"Can you believe this sh*t I used to say"?

Most kids who are born in religeous families are religious, at least until their teenage years, when many snap out of it. I'd be concerned about any permanant mark they put on their physical body , or psychy, that may come back to haunt them, when the religeous phase may have run out.

Not an expert, but I'd be more concerned about the second, hysterical kid.

this is heartbreaking

I have seen a few videos of similar children and I agree they are abused and raised in mental cages that prevent them the freedom of learning, growth and development.

It doesn't matter what the ideology, fundamentalism is wrong and I find not the kids but their parents and such mentality repulsive. Seeing these kids breaks my heart, but what they will become in the future horrifies me.

Thanks Marge

IRANdokht

mehrnaz you got it right

these are children acting as adults. except they aren't acting. you don't have the maturity to act at these ages. So clearly they have taken on this personality and it is reality and i'm glad i'm not the only one who finds this so creepy. talk about longing for childhood.

These are abused kids in need of rescue ...

I think they both need rescuing, these poor abused kids. It does look creepy indeed, like watching a horror movie. It is not so much what they are saying, it is the fact that they have no clue what they are saying! Very much like abused animals in a circus. In a circus the animals are trained through fear and pain, these creepy kids are trained through applause and praise, but the principle is the same.

As for whether or not they should be made fun of, well, not making fun, but certainly expressing revulsion is the right thing to do. If you saw a child who is sexually abused, learned to tart up and preen to get praise from creepy elders, would you keep silent, so that their feelings are not hurt? Neither do you make fun of them, surely. Perhaps one could let them know they are obviously talented performers but performing is different from from real life, and that in these real occasions, they don't look good, they look creepy, doing adult things they have no clue about.

I must say, they do make you want to vomit ...

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