Jahanshah Javid

MG - with all due respect to you

Hamdi Dabashi is a leftist elitist ...the type that brought us the 1979 devolution.  I dare him to  come out and admit that the 1979 devolution was a mistake.  But I know that I will have a better chance of being struck by lightning than hearing such a statement from the likes of this elitist Islamo-socialist fossil.  

BTW, Ahmadinejad has "sad sharaf" as we say to the likes of these West-hating (yet West residing and West-pamered) chameleons.  At least Ahmadinejad is honest about his ideology.  But here's our good friend Hamid Dabashi pimping IR's UN ambassador in Columbia:

 //iranian.com/main/news/2010/10/29-10

This is, of course, before June 2009 when the true nature of the IR was--once again--shown to the world.  Up until then, Dabashi, Trita Parsi and others were successful in bamboozling the world into believing that the IR had "reformed" and that it should have a place at the table of the civilized world--their previous massacres in Iran notwithstanding, of course.  Those pesky little IR "transgressions", should be ignored for the sake of the greater "good" of fighting the "West" as far as Mr. Dabashi is concerned.  

And yes, I have read one of Dabashi's books.  "Iran, a Nation Interrupted" is yet another anti-Iranian leftist manifesto.  Dabashi better stick to being an "expert in Palestinian cinema" (LOL!!) and leave Iran related issues to real Iranians.  

PS- Has our socialist friend ever done an honest day's work in his life, or has he jumped from Ivy League colleges to the academia at Columbia and to watching Palestinian movies?  Has he ever mowed his lawn? :-)) 

AO me thinks you misuderstood mashti

I don't think Iranian nationalsm is marginal or weak, those individuals and currents that use this cheap shot of "Nationalism" from mashaiye & AN are the marginalized. We all know Sepah would sell their mother for the right price; until yesterday they were loyal troops of Imam: today they're nationalist: tomorrow they'll raise their flag whereever the wind blows, most probably for multi-national corporations, IMF, WB, WTO....

AO jan it's a bit ironic that you call people like Dabashi all kinds of names ( have you read any of hamid's books?) and as soon as Esfand Jon and Nasnas Mozalef toss you a bone, you all get excited and call him a "good guy, despite of himself!"

MG - I think you just proved my point

You were talking about "marginalized" groups, presumabely the ultra nationlist  Iranians.  Karl Marx died in isolation, exile and poverty when most of the world had not even heard from him.  If that's not "marginalization" I don't know what is.

But as you point out, the ideas of this "marginalized" person became hugely popular afterwards...that is, of course, before the true consequences of his utopianist ideology became clear to the world.  But the point that you just proved is that "marginalized," oppressed people, groups and ideas can become most popular, especially when there's a foundation for them.  In Marx's case, the foundation was the idea of inequality and oppression of the working class that was prevelant at the time.  In Iran's case, the foundation is the natiolaism that has  always been--and to this day is--incredibly popular among the Iranian masses.   

AO jan , Manifesto is the second popular book, world wide

translated to almost every language, right behind Bible.

Marx was voted THE THINKER of the 20th cenury.

Workers' movements worldwide are witnessing the truth of his observations, mainly : "All that is solid melts into air,"

Not only we have been very cognazent of the wrath, we have augmented, refined and organized it, into an engine that can. Two General Strikes in Kurdestan is only a prelude to the nation-wide General Strike to come.

Keep your eyes on the prize. Storm the reality studios.

Incidentally "All that is solid melts into air," is also name of a great book on urbansim, by Marshall Berman,  translated to farsi.

MG, Wasn't Karl Marx himself "marginalized?"

Beware of the wrath of the oppressed!!!

اين شارلاتان!

اين شارلاتان دجال از امام زمان خيري نديد مجبور شد بره سراغ كورش تا شايد او بدادش برسه!

re;

 AO jaan; you pretty much said it for both of us. Cheers pilgrim!!!

Mullah-Kosh; Friend, welcome;:). Cant elaborate too much on the minutes of kiaani Bonyan Dastur(constitution/manifest) here as that is beyond the scope of this thread & comment yet in a nutshell . It is an idea inclusive to all kiaanophils regardless of gender or race who share the common sacred goal of mending, restoring the historic diruption of 641AD and ultimately building a modern Neo-Iranian state & psyche based on the foundations & original concept behind true Iran in lingual,cultural,social branches leading to reclaim that disrupted identity for an opportunity to reform based on our own long lost native criteria .

Hence ,We believe without repairing that disruption Iran shall continue to be adrift in the abyss of stateless Ommatism as it has for 1400 yrs. Mind you our beef will not be with spirituality or religions as private channells with God but with those who use it to bring alien icons, psyche ,culture & language to replace ours. We respect diversity as kiaani tradition speakes volumes of our tolerance yet we do not confuse tolerance with cultural/lingual total submission & docility. Proud, diverse yet united under one flag. phase 1- light the fire , 2-resurrect the notion ,3-build on the foundation phase, 4- A Kiaanocentric Iran proud, comfortable with herself and at ease with the world at large, 5- build concentration camps $%^& ::)) just kidding pal, couldn,t let that one go to bug the usual detractors   .Cheers & best wishes!!!

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

Rozbeh,he must be saying something like: " All you two bit punks

leave me alone. I actually BUILT a nation, not destroyed it."

"have their final, goodbye party bash in cyrus's memory and at Persepolis!"simply  brilliant

It's wrenching, makes you want to vomit how alll these marginalized individuals and currents are triping over themselves to give credit ( 1 % and 2%..) to AN.

The sheer stupidy of falling for such an obvious stunt: only in Iran.

And the luck goes on...

Have to feel sorry for Cyrus and Persepolis...

As it's becoming a tradition for every Iranian Dictator from the aryamehr to ahmadinezhad to have their final, goodbye party bash in cyrus's memory and at Persepolis!

"Personal business must yield to collective interest."

AO and Samsam

Please count me in your group as well. Restoration of Iranian culture, Iranian ways, and philosophy is the only salvation for Iran. I think Iranians are increasingly becoming aware of that fact. But I would like to see a more detailed outline of what you see as Kiaan philosophy, something like a "kiaan manifesto".

Brother Samsam

Like you my brother, I don't believe in the "green" akhoond light ommati BS.  Nor do I believe in leftist "safsateh" which has been putting an AN-tellectual face on anti-Iranianism for the past 60 years.  The only way out of the IR mess is a "rastakheez" of true Iranian identity.  And 32 years after the devolution, the Ahamdinejad / Mashaii crew is -willingly or unwillingly--ushering in that movement.  Kudos to them!

& one more thing

Today is a vindication day for folks like me & my dear kiaani pals like AO. since for a long time I/we,ve been saying that the only force that is capable of defeating the ommatie regime & their ommatie icons is the force of kiaan & kiaani icons as we confronted the nay sayers who kept discounting our stance and said "inna waseh faati tomboon nemisheh".

Islamic regime finally admited defeat not in the face of your rights movement, green bani abbass antelectualss, progressive liberal agenda, sufi humanist movement, leftists proleteria fairytales or your secular agenda but in the face of Kiaani unstoppable force that is coming to get em since they know very well what and who their main opponenet is  . Let that be a lesson to you to drop your Omaru  green flag and your kakamainy "where is my vote", "yaa hussein mir hussein", "workers unite unite", "ham ghazeh ham lobnan", raheh sabzeh omide bani abbass" crap and say keshvaram Iran, parchamam Drafsheh kaviaan , rahbaram Kourosheh anshan va raaham, Kiaan.

Cheers!!!

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

Ahmadinejad's Act!

This act by Ahmadinejad reminds me of a line in an old song by Jim Croce: "One hand on the bible, one hand on the gun." Or: "You say you love the baby, and you crucify the man." So, any criminal is welcome to pretend to love Iran when all else has failed him. Ahmadinejad is a demagogue and does anything to get attention or, as Pedro says, divert attention from the main issues. He has proven himself to be a dangerous enemy of Iran and Iranians, time and time again. He and his other criminal comrades have, with the help of a bunch of backward mullahs, taken Iran hostage and turned it into the most embarrassing case of a country. This a bad joke!!!

ahhhh okay

thx JJ,,, for a second I thought ID is back ;:)) but it seems its my premature senility for the young.

Cheers!!! 

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

SamSam

Your original comment was on the BBC report:
//iranian.com/main/2011/mar/iri-norooz-pe...

2nd post

Dont know what happened to my original comment, probably on some wrong post. anyhooo

Fake or not. I judge folks per action & per their views on kiaan & Iran. Some of those who have a problem with Ahmadinejad showing mild affection for kiaani icons are the same folks who have a problem with Kiaan ,period, and not necessarily with the messenger.  Within the context of Omaru Arabo republic in 30 yrs from bani abbass reformists to omaru fundamentalist herd the only group who has come even close enough atleast on the surface to acknowledge kiaani Iran & her overdue respect  is Ahmadi-Mashaii clan.  

We all know Ahmadi is probably faking it to some extent but we also know that it takes courage & a little bit of true faith in Kiaan to actualy follow up on that agenda in that ocean of Arabo-Ommah. Now never mind Islamic republic, when was the last time that the status quo opposition ever talked of kiaani solutions and values within their daily rozeh khooni? when was the last time that Seyedeh Farah Diba or Reza Pahlavi or Mousavi/Khattami clan or mossadeghists or mujaheds or commies read excerpt about kiaani Iran or Cyrus(bbhs) on national or satelite TV?..never..but Ahmadi did on Omaru regime national tv & for that alone, my hats off to Mr Ahmadinejad, the pragmatic wise-nut.

Since at the end it matters not wether he is faking it or not but the opportunity for the present/future brainwashed generation to wake up & see a different shade of Iran & to see the light that has been suppressed for 30 years which ultimately shall come to haunt ommaties at the end.

So on that alone lets give the man a break .

Cheers!!!

& great picture RedWine jaan

Path of Kiaan Resurrection of True Iran Hoisting Drafshe Kaviaan //iranianidentity.blogspot.com //www.youtube.com/user/samsamsia

Ahmadinejad and Mashaie next president

These slogan are created by Mashaie and whole goal is presidency. by next election they will have only two selected people for presidency and whole Idea is use the nationalist slogan to win or just rige the election. Ahmadinejad intend to stay as a vice president just like putin in russia. from last two year Mashaie been in all foriegn policy and meetings and they negotiating with American and British over nuclear program and they will keep the power till next 8 year, atleast that is their plan and western powers also don't mind to have them and they have a blessing from Hussain Obama and now depends on Iranian how to react and we need really to come up with good plan and as long as we think American are supporting our freedom, we will never reach to democracy and freedom that we want, the truth is they want such a Regime to be in power and they could sell the terror and threat and chaos to the world and american people for their national interest.  

Fascinating plot twist

Sepah has been "positioning" itself for a few years now

to begin a transition to Iranian Nationalism.

Aat some point they think they could do away with the clergy ( people's utter disgust with the clergy obviuosly helps) and sent all of them to Qum.

The obstacles on this path are more than one; Clergy is a entrenched as Sepah: peolple hate and despise Sepah as much as the Clergy: once you have people in the strees protesting and workers in the factories shutting them down, there's a very short time before we get rid of both Sepah and Clergy. Lookig forward to Tuesday, cheers

یا امام زین العابدین بیمار، آسوده بخواب که ما بیداریم

The continuing reverberations of a spontaneous slogan

There are in fact intelligence operatives within Iran's Ministry of Intelligence and other security organizations who know and understand, not to be mistaken with like or appreciate or sympathize with, the secular, the patriotic, and the fed-up-with-IRI population of Iran.  I have listened to one during a telephone interview on radio, and read another, Ali Rabiei, in Asr-e-Azadegan newspaper  published in Tehran) in 1998, who predicted exactly what happened in 2009 in frighteningly clear detail.  

In my opinion, apart from what must have been obviously disturbing slogans against Ali Khamenei, they picked up on one slogan more than any other as the worst news this sea of protesting people had for them, their policies, their educational system, and their rhetoric--"Na Ghazeh, na lobnan, jaanam fadaaye Iran!"  The shock and disbelief of the Islamic Republic about the slogan was so palpable in every sermon, speech, and article delivered by the pro-regime clerics, authorities, and analysts immediately after the 2009 Qods Day.  Even today we can hear them speak with shame about the utterance of those words by the traitor, mercenary, paid-by-foreign-states "seditionists!"

Nonetheless, they heard people and while most of them are busy cracking down more, and arresting more, and intimidating more, there might be a few who are heeding advice from the more experienced intelligence experts who might be saying the way back into peace may be pursuing what those protesters were saying.

Mahmoud and Mashaei are of the group that thinks the way back into Iranian people's heart is to publicly hold dear what Iranians have been holding dear privately--their pride in the Iranian history.

The silly show-and-tell around the unveiling of the Cyrus Cylinder by Tweedledum and Tweedledee (Mahmoud and Esfandiar Mashaei) was one example of this way of thinking.  This is another.

But with the increasingly radicalized new conservatism in the Islamic regime, I doubt they would be free to get as carried away as they would like to do in pushing this show forward.  Did you see this clip of hazbos hackling Mashaei only last week?

Yes Pedro

That's part of the idea. Ahmadinejad and Mashaie's. Not the regime as a whole.

JJ, Don't you smell distraction

Don't you think this is also about distracting people, in order to halt the momentum from uprisings around the world as well as Iran?

Stop Execution and torture of Iranians in Islamic regime Prisons

He doesn't have to be a nationalist

He's talking about nationalistic ideas, and that's good enough to open to the pandora's box.  

Ahmadinejad a nationalist?

I said the regime is admitting to the popularity of nationalism and trying to exploit it. That does not mean Ahmadinejad is a nationalist. But his opponents will accuse him of being a nationalist or at least flirting with nationalism, which is enough to brand you as un-Islamic or anti-revolutionary.

The various factions are fighting over nationalism and Iran's pre-Islamic heritage while the people, the real nationalists, watch on.

Don't belive it for a second

that ahmadi is nationalistic. Are we talking about the same guy here?

he is mahdiun and mahdiun is him. Their type believe that mahdi will arrive if there is too much crime and injustice. Naturally he is accomidating mahdi with crime and injustice while waiting at the chamgaran well for mahdi to clime up. Nationalistic my foot. He'll chop thousands more head to night if he was told mahdi just coughed in the well, 

Stop Execution and torture of Iranians in Islamic regime Prisions

Way to go Ahmadinejad!

That’s why, as EA points out below, an ultra-nationalist “anti-IRI right winger” such as myself would take AN over those who want to bring back the golden years of Imam any day.  For us, AN is opening the door to a subject that has been tabooed for 32 years by the likes of Mousavi: Iranian nationalism.  That opening in and of itself could be a catalyst to a nationalist re-awakening.  Good job Ahmadinejad!

Is ahmadi going the way of kooseh?

What are you saying? ahmadi is going to get the boot soon and he knows it?

If you ask me both dogs, khamenh and mojtaba are being trained by their English masters in maneuvering the key members of the regime.

Stop Execution and torture of Iranians in Islamic regime Prisons

i just hope that thier

i just hope that thier internal fight won't lead to the desecration (or destruction) of perspolis and other national heritage sites.

Fantastic job. Thank you

Fantastic job. Thank you Cyrus, indeed.